Thats plenty of money for a software company.
hire 5 programmers at $100,000 each, maybe have 2-3 website developers, and you'll still survive.
Now growth however would require more money, but i expect more than $100,000 a month, i mean theres more than 100,000 linux users who will sign up to this thing, and you can pay more than $5 a month, so lets wait and see.
Programmers deserve money, we are paying for their time and NOT their information.
This is what GNU is all about, every supporter of GNU should subscribe to transgaming just to support the GNU based economy and prove free software is profitable.
Once its proven profitable, game developers will begin making games for linux, hardware people will make drivers, everything will change.
If transgaming is profitable, then everyone in open source can follow a similar model, and Open source will once and for all be proven profitable.
If transgaming fails, it will go the other way around.
I think slashdot could take a tip from transgaming, I'd pay $1 a year to access one of my favorite websites. I'd pay $5 a month to have games on linux.
Selling services instead of information may be the key to profitability for the new economy, the GNU economy.
I plan to support transgaming, I have my $5 ready.
I expect everyone here using linux to support them because the success or failure of open source in the minds of the public rests on transgamings shoulders.
AIM is the most popular instant messager
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Over 100 million AOLIM users, Every user knows about it.
If you know your password then you dont really NEED to see the possible choices.
thats why you dont use ISPs and traditional method
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distributed caching would work just fine.
Simple, each of us caches and mirrors websites and instead of us connecting to slashdot.com we connect to each other
The average user agrees with you
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Thats why most people are using MSN explorer.
This is where Mozilla should be headed if it wants to dominate
You arent a casual user
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The AVERAGE windows user is not on slashdot reading about MOzilla
And if you want simple why are you using IE which comes packed with media player, msn message, passport, and other useless bloatware, why arent you using opera?
Ok well I guess Mozilla is dead
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Geeks only think about themselves, thats the problem. every open source peice of software is designed so only geeks can appreciate it.
I dont know what the average user wants? its so clear, look at Microsofts Internet Explorer, Bloated as hell, Look at AOL, Bloated as hell, ICQ, etc, This is what people use, so it must be what they want.
Give people what they want
Only people like us appreciate that.
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Dont tell me about the rendering engine, MathML and all of these innovations that only geeks care about.
Mozilla needs to compete with IE, not Lynx, not Konq, Mozilla is a Browser trying to compete with Internet Explorer.
What Mozilla needs, is innovations that normal people can see, not under the hood innovations.
Linux has under the hood innovations, funny how if you pu the average user in front of OSX or WindowsXP they will think WindowsXP and OSX are truely more innovative.
Average users dont see the internal, they see the features THEY can use.
Having all these fancy programmable this and extendable that, will not improve the average users experience over IE at all.
Name a feature MOzilla has which IE does not have, and i mean a feature average people can use and care about, name one, what themes? IE can do themes too, what auto form complete? IE has had that for years.
Under the hood innovations go unnoticed
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Mozillas innovations are only appreciated by people like us.
Someone using Internet explorer does not care about the rendering engine, does not care about silly programmable theme engines etc etc.
All they care about is how mozilla actually functions., What innovation has been made in how the browser itself functions? NONE.
AOL, Winamp, ICQ, Intergrated.
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Most Windows users use AOL, ICQ, and Winamp, these tools should all be intergrated into a package.
I dont mean crappy intergration like what was done with Netscape 6 either.
I mean GOOD intergration, example, you have a feature where you go to a website and you see all the other AOL and ICQ users on the site and can even initiate a group chat with them.
Imagine going to slashdot with this feature and getting into a debate with serveral people, pushing a button and ICQ chat opens up and all of the people are now in an ICQ chat with you where you can continue your debate.
Also Imagine the file sharing possibilities, of going to a site and deciding to send files to people on the site via ICQ in annonymous fashion.
Imagine embeded winamp to play your mp3s as they download similar to how quicktime works.
Imagine AOL instant messager people and ICQ people all being able to communicate via the MOzilla instant messager, which basically connects to both, all your important windows tools on one menu, Mozilla.
This is how Microsoft beat Netscape, and its how Mozilla should beat IE.
First there IS NO standard Window manager in linux.
Gnome and KDE come with every machine, I dont know any distro which comes with just KDE, but i know a few which just come with Gnome.
Konq will never be an IE because it will never be standard because there is no standard Linux Browser.
Konq is not the fastest at rendering, Opera and MOzilla absolutely destroy it in terms of rendering speed, I tested myself.
Konq is not powerful enough, its years behind Mozilla, and its on the level of say Opera.
Konq is good for general purpose but am I the only one here who prefers to use a BROWSER to browse the web and a file manager to manage my files,
Konq has become the file Manager, Mozilla the browser, why? Because jack of all trades = master of none, A browser should be the best BROWSER, IE sucks because it does everything, I suppose windows users want this, But you are talking Linux here.
Re:Its not faster than MOziilla, its not more stab
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Ok, Lets see your statistics, show me the time in seconds it takes mozilla to render a page not downloaded from the net but from your harddrive.
Get some sample HTML files and so on, and see which one renders fastest, I'll bet money on Mozilla.
Stability, Konq has crashed, Mozilla has NEVER crashed in Linux or Windows ever since version 0.9.3
Put your money with your mouth is, show some statistics.
Konq is for KDE, KDE is for Unix, usually Linux.
Konq faster at loading pages than Mozilla? prove it,
Faster at loading up in KDE? of course, its built into KDE, but its not faster at actually browsing the web.
Slashdot Mirror
What will we do once the world is run by self programming self healing self repairing and maintaining machines.
What then?
IE has a horrible interface in my opinion. why would anyone choose that over MOzillas customizeable interface?
MP2 is better than Ogg but bigger size.
Ogg however is best for its size.
why would they set it as the minimum
We should pay for the service.
Not the software, but the hard work of programmers who write it.
They deserve it.
But the code must always be free, as information should never have a price, just hard work and services.
With Microsoft, you never actually OWN your OS, or your software, or anything, you just rent it.
$60 a year is dirt cheap
Some people prefer linux over windows and would like to pay alittle extra to break free from windows forever
They are charging for the SERVICE.
we pay the programs for their hard work
this is FAIR.
paying for software or information which we dont own however is not fair.
Dont make comments without doing research.
What do you think redhat is doing?
When you pay programmers to write the code, you arent paying for the code, you are paying for the service of the programmers.
The code is open source, you OWN the code.
If everyone thinks a company will be successful they all put their money into it
if the company fails, they all stop paying, the end.
The code however STILL exsists so you DO get a return.
Someone will work on the code
I think this is the best for GNU and open source software to be profitable.
If people need something bad enough, require they pay for the service, and its done.
NOT THE CODE, once the codes released, its open source, which means you can improve it.
You just want the service, not the code itself, the code once released, is owned by us, but we need programmers to make the code.
Thats plenty of money for a software company.
hire 5 programmers at $100,000 each, maybe have 2-3 website developers, and you'll still survive.
Now growth however would require more money, but i expect more than $100,000 a month, i mean theres more than 100,000 linux users who will sign up to this thing, and you can pay more than $5 a month, so lets wait and see.
Thats their bare minimum they need to survive.
Programmers deserve money, we are paying for their time and NOT their information.
This is what GNU is all about, every supporter of GNU should subscribe to transgaming just to support the GNU based economy and prove free software is profitable.
Once its proven profitable, game developers will begin making games for linux, hardware people will make drivers, everything will change.
If transgaming is profitable, then everyone in open source can follow a similar model, and Open source will once and for all be proven profitable.
If transgaming fails, it will go the other way around.
I think slashdot could take a tip from transgaming, I'd pay $1 a year to access one of my favorite websites. I'd pay $5 a month to have games on linux.
Selling services instead of information may be the key to profitability for the new economy, the GNU economy.
I plan to support transgaming, I have my $5 ready.
I expect everyone here using linux to support them because the success or failure of open source in the minds of the public rests on transgamings shoulders.
Over 100 million AOLIM users, Every user knows about it.
If you know your password then you dont really NEED to see the possible choices.
distributed caching would work just fine.
Simple, each of us caches and mirrors websites and instead of us connecting to slashdot.com we connect to each other
Thats why most people are using MSN explorer.
This is where Mozilla should be headed if it wants to dominate
The AVERAGE windows user is not on slashdot reading about MOzilla
And if you want simple why are you using IE which comes packed with media player, msn message, passport, and other useless bloatware, why arent you using opera?
Geeks only think about themselves, thats the problem. every open source peice of software is designed so only geeks can appreciate it.
I dont know what the average user wants? its so clear, look at Microsofts Internet Explorer, Bloated as hell, Look at AOL, Bloated as hell, ICQ, etc, This is what people use, so it must be what they want.
Give people what they want
Dont tell me about the rendering engine, MathML and all of these innovations that only geeks care about.
Mozilla needs to compete with IE, not Lynx, not Konq, Mozilla is a Browser trying to compete with Internet Explorer.
What Mozilla needs, is innovations that normal people can see, not under the hood innovations.
Linux has under the hood innovations, funny how if you pu the average user in front of OSX or WindowsXP they will think WindowsXP and OSX are truely more innovative.
Average users dont see the internal, they see the features THEY can use.
Having all these fancy programmable this and extendable that, will not improve the average users experience over IE at all.
Name a feature MOzilla has which IE does not have, and i mean a feature average people can use and care about, name one, what themes? IE can do themes too, what auto form complete? IE has had that for years.
Mozillas innovations are only appreciated by people like us.
Someone using Internet explorer does not care about the rendering engine, does not care about silly programmable theme engines etc etc.
All they care about is how mozilla actually functions., What innovation has been made in how the browser itself functions? NONE.
Most Windows users use AOL, ICQ, and Winamp, these tools should all be intergrated into a package.
I dont mean crappy intergration like what was done with Netscape 6 either.
I mean GOOD intergration, example, you have a feature where you go to a website and you see all the other AOL and ICQ users on the site and can even initiate a group chat with them.
Imagine going to slashdot with this feature and getting into a debate with serveral people, pushing a button and ICQ chat opens up and all of the people are now in an ICQ chat with you where you can continue your debate.
Also Imagine the file sharing possibilities, of going to a site and deciding to send files to people on the site via ICQ in annonymous fashion.
Imagine embeded winamp to play your mp3s as they download similar to how quicktime works.
Imagine AOL instant messager people and ICQ people all being able to communicate via the MOzilla instant messager, which basically connects to both, all your important windows tools on one menu, Mozilla.
This is how Microsoft beat Netscape, and its how Mozilla should beat IE.
First there IS NO standard Window manager in linux.
Gnome and KDE come with every machine, I dont know any distro which comes with just KDE, but i know a few which just come with Gnome.
Konq will never be an IE because it will never be standard because there is no standard Linux Browser.
Konq is not the fastest at rendering, Opera and MOzilla absolutely destroy it in terms of rendering speed, I tested myself.
Konq is not powerful enough, its years behind Mozilla, and its on the level of say Opera.
Konq is good for general purpose but am I the only one here who prefers to use a BROWSER to browse the web and a file manager to manage my files,
Konq has become the file Manager, Mozilla the browser, why? Because jack of all trades = master of none, A browser should be the best BROWSER, IE sucks because it does everything, I suppose windows users want this, But you are talking Linux here.
Ok, Lets see your statistics, show me the time in seconds it takes mozilla to render a page not downloaded from the net but from your harddrive.
Get some sample HTML files and so on, and see which one renders fastest, I'll bet money on Mozilla.
Stability, Konq has crashed, Mozilla has NEVER crashed in Linux or Windows ever since version 0.9.3
Put your money with your mouth is, show some statistics.
Konq is for KDE, KDE is for Unix, usually Linux.
Konq faster at loading pages than Mozilla? prove it,
Faster at loading up in KDE? of course, its built into KDE, but its not faster at actually browsing the web.