You are on the internet being social at slashdot because its less threatening than to go to a picnic, but you are STILL being social.
This actually helps me arguement. "Did I become introverted because of being picked on, or did I get picked on because I was introverted? Tough call."
I got picked on more when I was an extrovert.
I decline to go to social engagements not because I don't like being around people, but simply because there are usually other things I would rather be doing that happen to be more inward-focused, or focused towards my wife and I (who is also introverted, and from her background, might also dispute the which-came-first argument).
Like posting on slashdot? If you truely were a natural introvert why would you be such an avid online extrovert?
Well if you've had the experience of never fitting into the "group", you usually arent going to like beinng an extrovert and will be converted to an introvert over time.
I'm saying experience made me choose introvert over extrovert, and I think experience is key here.
For most people, its an issue of experience, you had to have dealed with people in the past to form an opinion on the matter and decide you dont like dealing with them.
I'm talking from my own experience, I knew how to be social as a kid, I had social skills as a kid, I was an extrovert as a kid. There are reasons for it no longer being fun to deal with people, bad experiences have taken all the fun out of it.
So you know, its all experience based, its not genetic. This is what I'm saying.
I made the choice to be an introvert, I dont enjoy meeting people anymore due to lots of negative experiences with people that outweight the positives, just like someone who doesnt like pitbulls after being chased and bitten by them over and over.
There was a time in my life, back when I was a kid, when I loved to talk, express myself and be extroverted.
People changed that, my experience from being an extrovert, lets see, you get bullied more, people get jealous of you once you do get popular, you meet people who want to exploit or take advantage of you, etc.
If you are an extrovert and you keep getting punished for being one, perhaps you'll decide its better to be an introvert.
Thats how it was for me. When people are the source of all your problems, pain and unhappiess you'll want to get away from people.
I now choose to no longer be an extrovert, so it was a choice for me.
I'd much rather sit here and work on my code instead of talk to other people about what I'm doing. I get energy from thinking about what I'm doing and from within myself.
Yes I focus on my work now. There is a reason for this, most people are a distrastion and not worth focusing on.
. I feel that this is a superior way to live, in fact, because I've been very alone before and I survived it. An extrovert would go stir-crazy and do things that might not be the best for them just to avoid being alone. Not needing others, but only having them in your life when you want them in it, helps prevent being taken advantage of by people who prey on others.
Exactly, and thats why I choose to be an introvert. I dont see how its chemistry of the brain if I literally made a choice one day to become an introvert because I was tired of being an extrovert.
Introverts choose to be introverts because to the introvert its not "fun" to be an extrovert. Maybe they were extroverts when they were kids and got bullied, and learned to be an introvert, I think the world creates introverts because theres alot of mean ignorant people in this world.
If he didnt plead guilty the Government could just declare him an enemy combantant and lock him up anyway, so it doesnt matter how he pleads, he pleads guilty because at least he will be in a normal prison and not guantonimo bay getting tortured or whatever (who knows what happens over there?)
The Taliban was a legit government, it had absolutely nothing to do with Al Qaeda just like Iraq had nothing to do with Al Qaeda, but terrorists were Wahabi, and the Taliban were Wahabi, and they both were around the same area, oh and the Bin Laden was friends with them.
I guess Bin Laden was friends with Saddam too, and Saudi Arabian, South Africa, etc.
Maybe now that we have the Patriot Act passed, Operations Tips, and many of these other laws, we can declare all the other minorities terrorists and taliban supporters, this way Bush can go back on TV and claim jobs have been created.
I mean hes caused riots, caused terrorist attacks, etc etc, how about Trent Lott? can we arrest him and put him in jail? I know he didnt truely cause anything but hes clearly a racist and hes bad right?
Why are we selectively targetting specific groups, why do we allow hate groups to exist in this country but we go after anti government groups or groups like the davidians in waco?
We have ridiculous Holidays such as thanksgiving and crap, and we try to pretend like the US was founded on freedom, is this liberal or conservative bias?
People forget that people were burned for being witches, made into slaves for being non white, made into virtual slaves if you were female, and the only way to actually be an "American" for the first 300-400 years in this country was to be a white christian male.
Should we ignore the fact that we have never had a female President? I mean NEVER. We also never had a president who wasnt white, I mean NEVER. We never had a president who wasnt christian, and I mean NEVER, and lastly we never had a President who wasnt married (or at least I cannot remember one).
So, the only people who think that theres no racism, sexism, etc etc in the USA right now, and all throughout history, are conservative christian white males, like George Bush for example. Read a history book, how much do you see on the civil rights movement, the gay rights movement, the womens rights movement? You barely see any of it.
In my History class it was mentioned along with Kennedy for like one chapter, and the rest of the book was War, after War, after War, slaughter after slaughter, slavery here and there, more war, more killing, and theres a trend, there has always been a group of people throughout history in this country who have been against freedom.
Guess who those people are? The Religious zealots who happen to be on the right, the conservative christians, the ones who burned witches, enslaved millions and millions of people, murdered the native americans, stole the land, and then made an insulting holiday called "thanksgiving" to rub it in their faces.
There is ALOT about history that we cannot be proud of and we shouldnt be celebrating, and theres alot of things we should be celebrating. I'll never celebrate wars, I'll never celebrate thansgiving, or slavery, I do feel proud of the constitution, this was a wonderful step forward, I do feel proud of the civil rights movement, the womens rights movement, gay rights movement, and the internet, the inventing of the radio, the TV, the car, the airplane, world war 2, putting a man on the moon.
This country is great, I'm sure someone here will comment that I am a liberal because I care about liberal history, but please point out some history from the right which was great, what the fall of the soviet union? is that all?
I dont even like to divide history like this because we are all on the same team, but conservatives love to try to divide everything whenever they get the chance and label a person a liberal, a communist, a terrorist, or anything else they can think of when you disagree with them and honestly I'm getting sick of the paraniod witch-hunts, and the loss of freedom that conservatives bring, they have been doing this for hundreds of years, starting with the burning of witches, then there was communists, and now terrorists.
The problem with these paraniod witch-hunts is, yes while some of the people are bad, the way they find a "witch" is simply be having some established conservative just call you a witch.
Bill Oreilly can say you are a terrorist on national TV, and suddenly you are a terrorist, no trial, no hiring a lawyer, you are just captured and put somewhere on guantonimo bay and never heard from again.
Thats not constitutional, and its not right, why do we want to give this much power to the government? its ridiculous that they can just point the finger at someone and put them in jail just because they want to, but thats the current law.
Why dont we tell the true history about our founding fathers who were all for Freedom as long as you are a white christian male?
Of course we never mention that slaves built the whitehouse, and we never give them any credit.
We celebrate totally fucked up holidays like "Thanksgiving" which is an insult to ANY Native American, and we pretend like Native Americans just up and gave up their country.
We make heros out of cowboys who slaughtered "indians", we make heros out of outlaws who would shoot random people who pissed them off.
Lets say, a few months ago, you were on one of those trams at an international airport, and you see some guy standing close to you who happened to look Oriental (or is the PC term Asian?), with luggage tags from Beijing on his luggage. This guy is coughing up a storm and not caring about who's around him. Would you suspect him of having SARS or would that be "racist"?
I dont know, but if the Asian person suspected you of being a racist white male, does this make the Asian racist, is this reverse racism or is the Asian just not being politically correct? I mean we know most white males are racist just like most Asians have SARs, most Gays have aids, and most Blacks are gangster rappers and atheletes.
Yeah but people want to make excuses for the lazy president so its officially the CIAs fault.
Don't you notice that this president has more vacations than any President before him? Hes always at camp david, has more vacations than I do and I'm a college student.
This guy gets a summer break, and now hes on another vacation, I mean am I the only one who notices 95% of the time President Bush seems to be at camp david or some retreat?
Right now we have a Republican controlled congress, senate, president, hell republicans even control the media.
Whats your excuse now? Republicans control EVERYTHING and still are spending through the roof, what do you have to say about that? It has nothing to do with the war on terrorism, the War on terrorism is expensive yes, but its HIGHLY over rated, we were attacked once in 10 years, yes it was a big attack but these terrorists were trying to attack us and failing all through the Clinton admin, Bush has his guard down and we get attacked and suddenly we have to give up all our freedom because the CIA didnt do its job?
Throwinng more money at the problem is not the solution, it doesnt work public schools so why would it work for this? I mean thats what you republicans love to say, now eat your words!
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You are on the internet being social at slashdot because its less threatening than to go to a picnic, but you are STILL being social.
This actually helps me arguement.
"Did I become introverted because of being picked on, or did I get picked on because I was introverted? Tough call."
I got picked on more when I was an extrovert.
I decline to go to social engagements not because I don't like being around people, but simply because there are usually other things I would rather be doing that happen to be more inward-focused, or focused towards my wife and I (who is also introverted, and from her background, might also dispute the which-came-first argument).
Like posting on slashdot? If you truely were a natural introvert why would you be such an avid online extrovert?
Well if you've had the experience of never fitting into the "group", you usually arent going to like beinng an extrovert and will be converted to an introvert over time.
I'm saying experience made me choose introvert over extrovert, and I think experience is key here.
For most people, its an issue of experience, you had to have dealed with people in the past to form an opinion on the matter and decide you dont like dealing with them.
But extroverts cant understand this.
MY own experience, and from most other introverts I've spoken to.
One thing is in common, they dont like being around people, why? Well most of them had bad experiences with people in the past.
Kinda like a rape victim suddenly doesnt like to be around guys, or a person who would always get chased by dogs would hate being around dogs.
I'm talking from my own experience, I knew how to be social as a kid, I had social skills as a kid, I was an extrovert as a kid. There are reasons for it no longer being fun to deal with people, bad experiences have taken all the fun out of it.
So you know, its all experience based, its not genetic. This is what I'm saying.
I made the choice to be an introvert, I dont enjoy meeting people anymore due to lots of negative experiences with people that outweight the positives, just like someone who doesnt like pitbulls after being chased and bitten by them over and over.
There was a time in my life, back when I was a kid, when I loved to talk, express myself and be extroverted.
People changed that, my experience from being an extrovert, lets see, you get bullied more, people get jealous of you once you do get popular, you meet people who want to exploit or take advantage of you, etc.
If you are an extrovert and you keep getting punished for being one, perhaps you'll decide its better to be an introvert.
Thats how it was for me. When people are the source of all your problems, pain and unhappiess you'll want to get away from people.
I now choose to no longer be an extrovert, so it was a choice for me.
I'd much rather sit here and work on my code instead of talk to other people about what I'm doing. I get energy from thinking about what I'm doing and from within myself.
Yes I focus on my work now. There is a reason for this, most people are a distrastion and not worth focusing on.
. I feel that this is a superior way to live, in fact, because I've been very alone before and I survived it. An extrovert would go stir-crazy and do things that might not be the best for them just to avoid being alone. Not needing others, but only having them in your life when you want them in it, helps prevent being taken advantage of by people who prey on others.
Exactly, and thats why I choose to be an introvert. I dont see how its chemistry of the brain if I literally made a choice one day to become an introvert because I was tired of being an extrovert.
Anti Anxiety pills are a waste of money, drink a beer.
Working out doesnt help at all.
Reading a book is the last thing you want to do.
The funny thing is, I'm only introverted offline, online I'm an extrovert who posts all over slashdot.
Introverts choose to be introverts because to the introvert its not "fun" to be an extrovert. Maybe they were extroverts when they were kids and got bullied, and learned to be an introvert, I think the world creates introverts because theres alot of mean ignorant people in this world.
Its a choice, people make a choice to be introverted or extroverted.
I dont blame people for being introverted, most of the people in this world are idiots and it seems most of the idiots are extroverts.
try canada
How did Howard Dean lie?
So lets attack them.
Because Mula Omars Al Qaeda attacked us first.
If he didnt plead guilty the Government could just declare him an enemy combantant and lock him up anyway, so it doesnt matter how he pleads, he pleads guilty because at least he will be in a normal prison and not guantonimo bay getting tortured or whatever (who knows what happens over there?)
The Taliban was a legit government, it had absolutely nothing to do with Al Qaeda just like Iraq had nothing to do with Al Qaeda, but terrorists were Wahabi, and the Taliban were Wahabi, and they both were around the same area, oh and the Bin Laden was friends with them.
I guess Bin Laden was friends with Saddam too, and Saudi Arabian, South Africa, etc.
Now when will white males with bald heads be arrested for looking like terrorists?
Maybe now that we have the Patriot Act passed, Operations Tips, and many of these other laws, we can declare all the other minorities terrorists and taliban supporters, this way Bush can go back on TV and claim jobs have been created.
Now fire all the Indian programmers so I can get a job!!!!!
Its about time we linked them to terrorism!
(no I'm not trying to be racist, its sarcasm)
I mean hes caused riots, caused terrorist attacks, etc etc, how about Trent Lott? can we arrest him and put him in jail? I know he didnt truely cause anything but hes clearly a racist and hes bad right?
Why are we selectively targetting specific groups, why do we allow hate groups to exist in this country but we go after anti government groups or groups like the davidians in waco?
We have ridiculous Holidays such as thanksgiving and crap, and we try to pretend like the US was founded on freedom, is this liberal or conservative bias?
People forget that people were burned for being witches, made into slaves for being non white, made into virtual slaves if you were female, and the only way to actually be an "American" for the first 300-400 years in this country was to be a white christian male.
Should we ignore the fact that we have never had a female President? I mean NEVER. We also never had a president who wasnt white, I mean NEVER. We never had a president who wasnt christian, and I mean NEVER, and lastly we never had a President who wasnt married (or at least I cannot remember one).
So, the only people who think that theres no racism, sexism, etc etc in the USA right now, and all throughout history, are conservative christian white males, like George Bush for example. Read a history book, how much do you see on the civil rights movement, the gay rights movement, the womens rights movement? You barely see any of it.
In my History class it was mentioned along with Kennedy for like one chapter, and the rest of the book was War, after War, after War, slaughter after slaughter, slavery here and there, more war, more killing, and theres a trend, there has always been a group of people throughout history in this country who have been against freedom.
Guess who those people are? The Religious zealots who happen to be on the right, the conservative christians, the ones who burned witches, enslaved millions and millions of people, murdered the native americans, stole the land, and then made an insulting holiday called "thanksgiving" to rub it in their faces.
There is ALOT about history that we cannot be proud of and we shouldnt be celebrating, and theres alot of things we should be celebrating. I'll never celebrate wars, I'll never celebrate thansgiving, or slavery, I do feel proud of the constitution, this was a wonderful step forward, I do feel proud of the civil rights movement, the womens rights movement, gay rights movement, and the internet, the inventing of the radio, the TV, the car, the airplane, world war 2, putting a man on the moon.
This country is great, I'm sure someone here will comment that I am a liberal because I care about liberal history, but please point out some history from the right which was great, what the fall of the soviet union? is that all?
I dont even like to divide history like this because we are all on the same team, but conservatives love to try to divide everything whenever they get the chance and label a person a liberal, a communist, a terrorist, or anything else they can think of when you disagree with them and honestly I'm getting sick of the paraniod witch-hunts, and the loss of freedom that conservatives bring, they have been doing this for hundreds of years, starting with the burning of witches, then there was communists, and now terrorists.
The problem with these paraniod witch-hunts is, yes while some of the people are bad, the way they find a "witch" is simply be having some established conservative just call you a witch.
Bill Oreilly can say you are a terrorist on national TV, and suddenly you are a terrorist, no trial, no hiring a lawyer, you are just captured and put somewhere on guantonimo bay and never heard from again.
Thats not constitutional, and its not right, why do we want to give this much power to the government? its ridiculous that they can just point the finger at someone and put them in jail just because they want to, but thats the current law.
Why dont we tell the true history about our founding fathers who were all for Freedom as long as you are a white christian male?
Of course we never mention that slaves built the whitehouse, and we never give them any credit.
We celebrate totally fucked up holidays like "Thanksgiving" which is an insult to ANY Native American, and we pretend like Native Americans just up and gave up their country.
We make heros out of cowboys who slaughtered "indians", we make heros out of outlaws who would shoot random people who pissed them off.
Lets say, a few months ago, you were on one of those trams at an international airport, and you see some guy standing close to you who happened to look Oriental (or is the PC term Asian?), with luggage tags from Beijing on his luggage. This guy is coughing up a storm and not caring about who's around him. Would you suspect him of having SARS or would that be "racist"?
I dont know, but if the Asian person suspected you of being a racist white male, does this make the Asian racist, is this reverse racism or is the Asian just not being politically correct? I mean we know most white males are racist just like most Asians have SARs, most Gays have aids, and most Blacks are gangster rappers and atheletes.
Yeah but people want to make excuses for the lazy president so its officially the CIAs fault.
Don't you notice that this president has more vacations than any President before him? Hes always at camp david, has more vacations than I do and I'm a college student.
This guy gets a summer break, and now hes on another vacation, I mean am I the only one who notices 95% of the time President Bush seems to be at camp david or some retreat?
Right now we have a Republican controlled congress, senate, president, hell republicans even control the media.
Whats your excuse now? Republicans control EVERYTHING and still are spending through the roof, what do you have to say about that? It has nothing to do with the war on terrorism, the War on terrorism is expensive yes, but its HIGHLY over rated, we were attacked once in 10 years, yes it was a big attack but these terrorists were trying to attack us and failing all through the Clinton admin, Bush has his guard down and we get attacked and suddenly we have to give up all our freedom because the CIA didnt do its job?
Throwinng more money at the problem is not the solution, it doesnt work public schools so why would it work for this? I mean thats what you republicans love to say, now eat your words!