$10 a month to freenet and get all the music and movies you want,
Or pay the RIAA $100,000 dollars per song.
I think we dont have a choice but to make the logical business decision just like the RIAA made the logical business decision to sue 60 million people.
How is Carnivore supposed to decrypt the files now? Carnivore is a waste of money, it doesnt even work for people who know how to properly defend from it.
Maybe you want one corperation or government to rule over you and take away all your rights while forcing you to pay a tax.
I so wish you were born in soviet russia during the proper era.
Maybe you'd like to live under the rule of Saddam. I mean you dont have any rights, you do exactly what the company says, but exactly what the company says buy, pay exactly the price they want to do exactly what they tell you to do with what you pay for, for the exact amount of time they want.
You sir are a fool. Maybe some of us dont respect the company and refuse to pay the tax. Ever hear of the Boston Tea Party? Your stupid ass would still be buying British Tea.
Thats right, rob your best friend, and then sell his CD(after you make few copies of it to backup and give back to your friend), Sell his CD on the internet to someone in Afganastan who cannot access music, make profits, and then repeat.
Of course theres no chance of you getting Arrested for something like that, our government is too busy trying to stop the drug trade, terrorism etc.
You are robbing millions of musicians who wouldnt make a penny before you started stealing music.
You are robbing rich CEOs who desperately need your money to buy their new set of houses and car collection
You are robbing millions of tax payers who will be forced to bailout the RIAA when the RIAA forces Bush to give them 20-30 billion dollars of your tax dollars.
Just give them the money. Or do you want them to steal it?
Lets write checks to our congressmen and sign contracts agreeing to pay increased taxes in exchange for a War on RIAA plan, you can model it after the successful War on drugs, War on poverty, War in Iraq, and War on Terrorism.
You will listen to what the RIAA tells you to listen to when they give you permission, in the way they decide! You will then pay your tax so that you may have the right to listen to what they want you to listen to, in the way they want you to listen to it, when they decide its time.
If you disagree with this statement, you are a thief who supports piracy and communism.
Even if you own the CD, you will be assumed guilty until you can prove you are innocent. After they raid your house, and take you to court, then you can look for proof that you purchased CDs.
Of course the RIAA can always pressure you to settle, knowing they have super lawyers and knowing you cant win the case even if you did buy the CD.
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Because you have no proof its a mental disorder. we can prove somethings a mental disorder by watching a persons actions, you cannot prove they have a mental disorder just by guessing.
I'm not going to play doctor even if I may have taken classes, I'm not a doctor. You arent a doctor.
Even if I was a doctor, Its not easy to tell the difference between a "crazy" person, and a normal person.
There are alot of normal people who have crazy attributes,
Anyway its not up to us to decide whos crazy and whos not, we should leave that up to the doctors, but we shouldnt mess up the whole law system just to stop one specific crime.
Thats as silly as giving up freedom to stop terrorism.
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What you don't seem to acknowledge is that pedophiles have a mental disorder. This mental disorder is the same in both the people that take the pictures and the people that view them.
Because thats like saying gays have a mental disorder.
Just because I dont understand you, doesnt mean you have a mental disorder. Now, if you have no self control and you rape kids this DOES mean you have a mental disorder. Just like if you are gay and you rape people in prison or whatever you do have a mental disorder. My point is I dont judge people based on what pictures they look at or their sexuality, I judge people by their actions. I cannot label someone a criminal before they actually commit the crime, just because they thought about it, or looked at a picture.
Of course, some people are going to have various different secondary afflictions that others may not have.. It's still the same basic thing and the potential for violent acts against children is very likely. By definition, pedophiles cannot really control their urges on their own. They have a disorder that makes them feel the way that they do, a lot like how some serial killers have been known to do various mutilations and rituals as part of their killing..
Yes but not all people who for example think teen girls are attractive, are suddenly a pedophile. It takes actions, if you rape a teen girl then you are a pedophile. I know guys who have gfs who are teenagers, but who havent and dont have sex with them because they know its wrong. I judge people based on actions.
The way they function forces them to be this way. You don't wake up one more and say hey I bet that child porn is interesting, I'm going to download everything I can find! No, people that do that have mental disorders and need the assistance of a psyche doctor.
Theres alot of people I dont understand, but that doesnt give me the right to say they have a mental disorder. I think people who hate are impossible for me to understand, I dont know how people can hate, but I dont want to say they have a mental disorder either. I mean people who are nazis and who join the KKK, whats wrong with those people? I dont honestly know, but unless they actually murder, beat up or harm soneone I cannot really judge them as a bad person.
I mean it's weird to me in some cases you acknowledge pedophiles are evil selfish people, but then at the same time you want to treat them like normal sound people as far as assuming they can fight urges and make rational decisions when placed in positions where they may be able to take advantage of children.
Pedophiles are bad and selfish people, I'm saying you cannot label people a pedophile until they actually commit the crime. You cannot just point out, "Ok this guy likes younger girls, hes a pedophile!"
Pedophile is a strong word, its like rapist or murderer, you have to be very precise in who you label a pedophile. Just like I'm not going to assume all gay people are going to hit on me, I dont assume all people who look at younger girls are instantly pedophiles. I judge by actions not by what they think about.
I mean, if you don't want to give them jail time, fine.. If having a disorder is their only crime, send them to the psyche ward to be evaluated.
I'm not sure whats wrong with them, Jailtime may not solve their problem, rapists, pedophiles, serial killers, psychopaths/sociopaths, and other people who I do not understand may need to be evaluated, but I'm not going to label them crazy just because I personally dont understand them.
Theres ALOT of people who I dont understand, so theres no way I can start judging people like this.
You can have free speech all you want, but the fact is it's a disorder that's generating this "speech", which to me.. Isn't really speech at all.. I mean it's like an NRA member saying they should have the right to carry a loaded shotgun around in the mall because they have a right to bear arms.. I mean c
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$10 a month to freenet and get all the music and movies you want,
Or pay the RIAA $100,000 dollars per song.
I think we dont have a choice but to make the logical business decision just like the RIAA made the logical business decision to sue 60 million people.
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I'm going to wait for NGrouting.
How is Carnivore supposed to decrypt the files now?
Carnivore is a waste of money, it doesnt even work for people who know how to properly defend from it.
They can both become a proxy for someone else as well as hide behind someone else in a ring.
You connect to me, I connect to joe.
Joe wants to talk to you, he connects to me, and I connect to you.
This could be random, every time they log on new proxy rings.
Its a good model, however I think GNUnets economic model is more advanced.
Ian Clarke was founder of Uprizer and many other companies. Uprizer if I remember right pays for the bandwidth.
Maybe you want one corperation or government to rule over you and take away all your rights while forcing you to pay a tax.
I so wish you were born in soviet russia during the proper era.
Maybe you'd like to live under the rule of Saddam. I mean you dont have any rights, you do exactly what the company says, but exactly what the company says buy, pay exactly the price they want to do exactly what they tell you to do with what you pay for, for the exact amount of time they want.
You sir are a fool. Maybe some of us dont respect the company and refuse to pay the tax. Ever hear of the Boston Tea Party? Your stupid ass would still be buying British Tea.
I'm saying the RIAA shouldnt own all the music and the distribution.
I'm saying p2p should be legal.
http://www.subpoenadefense.org/
Its done.
We need to prepare the fires so we can burn you along with the communists and liberals!
Thats right, rob your best friend, and then sell his CD(after you make few copies of it to backup and give back to your friend), Sell his CD on the internet to someone in Afganastan who cannot access music, make profits, and then repeat.
Of course theres no chance of you getting Arrested for something like that, our government is too busy trying to stop the drug trade, terrorism etc.
You are robbing millions of musicians who wouldnt make a penny before you started stealing music.
You are robbing rich CEOs who desperately need your money to buy their new set of houses and car collection
You are robbing millions of tax payers who will be forced to bailout the RIAA when the RIAA forces Bush to give them 20-30 billion dollars of your tax dollars.
Just give them the money. Or do you want them to steal it?
Lets write checks to our congressmen and sign contracts agreeing to pay increased taxes in exchange for a War on RIAA plan, you can model it after the successful War on drugs, War on poverty, War in Iraq, and War on Terrorism.
It doesnt matter, I have the backup and theres no way the RIAA would ever catch me.
So its legal.
At least until Bush allows them to install cameras in my home to catch cyber terrorists and they see my backup discs.
Ok i'll sell all my CDs tomorrow, after I make private copies of each and every one of them. Then I will use the money to buy more CDs and repeat.
You will listen to what the RIAA tells you to listen to when they give you permission, in the way they decide! You will then pay your tax so that you may have the right to listen to what they want you to listen to, in the way they want you to listen to it, when they decide its time.
If you disagree with this statement, you are a thief who supports piracy and communism.
Thats the RIAA manifesto!
Lets all boycott the RIAA and start buying used CDs and keep the backups.
Stop stealing the RIAA's profits and pay their damn tax!
You arent from Boston like me, so you dont get a teaparty.
I mean we know you support them, I mean its not like you subscribed to http://freenetproject.org/ or EFF
You know, you can pay your $ to the RIAA, or you can pay the EFF, but either way you are going to pay.
So who would you prefer tax you?
Which do you prefer? Corperate Welfare? Freenet?
http://freenetproject.org/
Options are limited, you are a slave to the RIAA, or you support freenet.
Even if you own the CD, you will be assumed guilty until you can prove you are innocent. After they raid your house, and take you to court, then you can look for proof that you purchased CDs.
Of course the RIAA can always pressure you to settle, knowing they have super lawyers and knowing you cant win the case even if you did buy the CD.
Pay EFF
These are your options. Pick one.
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Because you have no proof its a mental disorder. we can prove somethings a mental disorder by watching a persons actions, you cannot prove they have a mental disorder just by guessing.
I'm not going to play doctor even if I may have taken classes, I'm not a doctor. You arent a doctor.
Even if I was a doctor, Its not easy to tell the difference between a "crazy" person, and a normal person.
There are alot of normal people who have crazy attributes,
Anyway its not up to us to decide whos crazy and whos not, we should leave that up to the doctors, but we shouldnt mess up the whole law system just to stop one specific crime.
Thats as silly as giving up freedom to stop terrorism.
What you don't seem to acknowledge is that pedophiles have a mental disorder. This mental disorder is the same in both the people that take the pictures and the people that view them.
Because thats like saying gays have a mental disorder.
Just because I dont understand you, doesnt mean you have a mental disorder. Now, if you have no self control and you rape kids this DOES mean you have a mental disorder. Just like if you are gay and you rape people in prison or whatever you do have a mental disorder. My point is I dont judge people based on what pictures they look at or their sexuality, I judge people by their actions. I cannot label someone a criminal before they actually commit the crime, just because they thought about it, or looked at a picture.
Of course, some people are going to have various different secondary afflictions that others may not have.. It's still the same basic thing and the potential for violent acts against children is very likely. By definition, pedophiles cannot really control their urges on their own. They have a disorder that makes them feel the way that they do, a lot like how some serial killers have been known to do various mutilations and rituals as part of their killing..
Yes but not all people who for example think teen girls are attractive, are suddenly a pedophile. It takes actions, if you rape a teen girl then you are a pedophile. I know guys who have gfs who are teenagers, but who havent and dont have sex with them because they know its wrong. I judge people based on actions.
The way they function forces them to be this way. You don't wake up one more and say hey I bet that child porn is interesting, I'm going to download everything I can find! No, people that do that have mental disorders and need the assistance of a psyche doctor.
Theres alot of people I dont understand, but that doesnt give me the right to say they have a mental disorder. I think people who hate are impossible for me to understand, I dont know how people can hate, but I dont want to say they have a mental disorder either. I mean people who are nazis and who join the KKK, whats wrong with those people?
I dont honestly know, but unless they actually murder, beat up or harm soneone I cannot really judge them as a bad person.
I mean it's weird to me in some cases you acknowledge pedophiles are evil selfish people, but then at the same time you want to treat them like normal sound people as far as assuming they can fight urges and make rational decisions when placed in positions where they may be able to take advantage of children.
Pedophiles are bad and selfish people, I'm saying you cannot label people a pedophile until they actually commit the crime. You cannot just point out, "Ok this guy likes younger girls, hes a pedophile!"
Pedophile is a strong word, its like rapist or murderer, you have to be very precise in who you label a pedophile. Just like I'm not going to assume all gay people are going to hit on me, I dont assume all people who look at younger girls are instantly pedophiles. I judge by actions not by what they think about.
I mean, if you don't want to give them jail time, fine.. If having a disorder is their only crime, send them to the psyche ward to be evaluated.
I'm not sure whats wrong with them, Jailtime may not solve their problem, rapists, pedophiles, serial killers, psychopaths/sociopaths, and other people who I do not understand may need to be evaluated, but I'm not going to label them crazy just because I personally dont understand them.
Theres ALOT of people who I dont understand, so theres no way I can start judging people like this.
You can have free speech all you want, but the fact is it's a disorder that's generating this "speech", which to me.. Isn't really speech at all.. I mean it's like an NRA member saying they should have the right to carry a loaded shotgun around in the mall because they have a right to bear arms.. I mean c