well you only have so much time in a day so not everyone wants to spend money on junk.
I myself would personally spend my money going out to parties, hanging with girls, hosting parties at my mansion, you know like Mr.Hefner.
I'd use my money to surround myself with ladies and party. I could do that at home and it wouldnt really cost alot of money, I could be set with just a billion dollars, hell I could be set with 100 million.
So I'm guessing hes given around 0.1% of his wealth away. The guy gives away millions but has almost 50 billion dollars, am I supposed to be impressed? I'd be impressed if the man gave away a few billion dollars at a time and not in stupid ways. When he spends money on schools I'm impressed when he actually builds a school, but usually he does not build a school, usually he just donates Microsoft products (big deal) to schools.
Bill Gates does give stuff, but not as much as he should. Ted Turner gives more than Bill Gates.
Do they? I have statistics which say the poor pay most of the taxes while the rich pay far less taxes yet pay more money in taxes (well they have more money so who cares how much money they pay) http://www.itepnet.org/whopays.htm
if its done right they'll have to pay for the service.
Dont sell the game as a product, let them connect to a network and access the games that way, or sell the game on a console, if you think China is so big with piracy well Japan wouldnt be able to sell anything like the playstation and other game consoles, Gameboy would be dead and there would be no video games.
Let the hardware makers find ways to handle piracy, the software makers just make the games and profit, the hardware makers could sell a box and internet access to games and suddenly you cant pirate because the games dont download.
The solution to this economy, abolish pay raises!
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In George Bush's most recent speech, a new solution was put forward to help create jobs and spur growth, SALARY CAPS! Thats right, just like what we have in sports, a cap on your salary will allow companies to hire more workers with the same money. Add to the fact that we can get rid of overtime pay and make them work harder and longer for free, maybe we can even cut their salary and reduce to exactly $1 above their cost of living and set the cap right there.
They want us fighting each other so they can stay in power. Why do you think Bush wants to give tax cuts to the rich in the first place when most of the rich were saying they didnt want the tax cuts to begin with?
So please remember, if you want to see George Gates get richer please vote for Bush in 2004, you'll see many more tax cuts and the wealth of Mr.Gates will increase further.
which taxes? Income taxes? Social Security tax?
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Show me some real statistics, anyone can say "Well the rich pay 92% of taxes" but without saying which taxes that number means nothing. The poor pay a greater percentage of the social security tax, and a greater percentage of their income in general goes to taxes. The poor pay the majority of all taxes, the rich only pay the majority of sales taxes.
So lets hike the sales taxes through the roof and get rid of the social security and income taxes so the rich can actually pay 92% of all taxes.
Yes, the way to help the economy is cut taxes.
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The best thing we can do for the economy is cut taxes for the rich while raising taxes for the poor, dont you see? Dont you get it? The best solution for all economic problems is to allow the rich to keep more of their own money. In fact the poor should pay 100% of all taxes since they happen to use all the resources taxes produce anyway, the rich can put their kids in private school and rely on private resources so why should they pay taxes so you can put your kid in school? Why should Bill Gates pay taxes so you can get your medication and go to the hospital?
Taxes == Communism and only the poor are Communists.
Why do you think Bush gave them tax cuts?
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You people act surprised to see that suddenly the rich are richer! Well they pay less taxes so of course they are richer! This is the whole point behind the tax cuts for the rich!
What did you people think would happen? That the rich would actually start spending because you gave them alittle more money?
When did we even mention the home users? My point is, big corporate users are the first to migrate to Linux and the benefits will hit the home users later.
This means as more corporate users switch from word to Star Office, the benefits to open office are passed on to the home user.
People do not want to pay $500 for software every few years, the corporations dont want to pay it, the user cannot afford to pay it, and its just not going to work. People will however pay $500 in services.
The professional and business market (small and medium sized businesses) are where the money is at, but I'm a user, and it benefits me to get free software, I dont have the money to pay for the support, and its not important for me to have the support, if I were running a business I would definately go with Redhat.
Thats not the point. China creates market share, their governments wont spend a dime on us, but their people will be using Linux allowing game companies to develop, software advances, and this in the end will allow our companies to offer services to the Chinese, not the Chinese government.
The Chinese will use our services if we are the only ones providing them, just like the Japanese, also we can buy their services, games etc, overall competition helps the industry.
Maybe Chinas version of Linux will be better than Redhats.
Yes so if I am president of China and I say only Linux can be sold in stores, and in response everyone in China buys Linux, does this mean Linux is a better product?
Its dead, the only reason Microsofts numbers are so inflated is due to anti trust and other illegal tactics. When you have a monopoly you can force people to buy your software by packing it into ever PC sold, and you can set the price to be high $300 or maybe $500.
This however cannot be sustained forever, eventually OEMs will begin to pack Linux, people in the third world will eventually stop buying, Linux will have such a high marketshare that Microsoft wont have a monopoly anymore and economics will come into play.
Thats what happened to the record industry, P2P removed the distribution monopoly they had and their whole business fell apart.
You actually think Microsoft can keep doing this? Even Microsoft knows they cant get away with selling Windows and Office for much longer, thats why they want to sell tech support and upgrades now, or at least are discussing the idea.
Face it, why will anyone use Microsofts crap when its being flooded with worms and viruses and costs $300?
I'm very pro Redhat, they make the best version of Linux in my opinion. Gentoo seems interesting but ridiculous to setup, Debian is too old and would require I upgrade every component after I install it, Redhat is easy to install and fairly up to date, its also easy to upgrade.
I dont very much care for the RPM system, I hate dependencies, I dont really like everything about Redhat, but it works so I use it.
Redhat has contributed new code, they are doing a good job at improving functionality. RPM while I dont like it does improve functionality, Up2date while I dont use it does help newbies, and bluecurve which I dont really like does make Linux easier to use.
I think the old model of selling products is dead anyway, its dead in the music industry, its dead in the software industry. Theres only so much software you can sell to people, what? You think Microsoft's model would work in the third world? You are wrong.
Redhat actually has a better long term model, a service model which will work despite the changes in economy. The service model basically says, take our software for free, but if you want help using this software, sign up for support.
This will work great for Operating Systems, Microsoft could easily give away Windows and charge for support, antivirus, upgrades, etc. China is now moving toward Linux, when big governments such as these move toward Linux, this means the revenue stream grows x10, government has the money to buy support, and they are the kind of customers who cannot afford to make mistakes and are likely to buy support.
School systems also are the type of customers, businesses I think at least the small to medium sized businesses can use the support, the large businesses can hire their own experts.
Your logic is perfect and on target, thats exactly what I was trying to tell these people.
Its people who want to leech like this who kill everything, open source will get killed if people think "well why should I ever pay a dime, its free so I'll just take it!"
They forget that someone had to code the software, reminds me of the millions of Linux Mandrake users who want to use Linux Mandrake but cant join the club, or people who want games in Linux but wont join Transgaming, wont buy games from Loki, etc.
Its bad to abuse free products. AOL does not have to allow free access to their networks, they can start charging, they can restrict access to AOL users, give them some credit for creating good software you selfish brat.
This is the problem with the open source community, people are so willing to be for free software, and open standards but then dont want to pay their dues via writing code or paying. I'm subscribed to transgaming, i've paid slashdot, i've donated money to various open source projects so please shut up.
If Trillian wants to profit off IM let them develop their own network, if AOL wants to profit off the network they created they have every right to do that, you arent paying a penny to download your contact list from their network and you know I hope they start charging, thats the ultimate solution, just charge a fee to download your contact list, charge a fee to see whos online, or let people and trillian set up their own servers to handle the problem.
Also there have been many other software releases which were successful before Trillian and no one cared, the reason Trillian gets attention is because its actually a company.
Jabber has been around all this time and no one used it.
Trillian is the only client which directly robs sthem of ad revenue. Gaim is for Linux and Microsoft could give a damn about Linux clients, Jabber isnt all that important either, but Trillian is a client thats actually better than their client, and the masses are using it, this is very very bad.
I agree with what you say, but Trillian is a company, they actually profit off other peoples networks and so I dont agree with Trillian.
I'd like to see Trillian sued or driven out of business myself. Look, if Trillian were open source freeware who would care? I dont think MSN and Yahoo would be doing this if it were just GAIM or even Jabber, the reason this happens with Trillian is because Trillian is a company, its that simple.
I would do the same thing if some other company were getting rich off my network. Ad revenue is one thing, and only AOL/Yahoo can be blamed for losing out on the Linux ad revenue etc, but when it comes to Trillian theres no reason for Trillian to exist.
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But you'd never even use all the stuff you buy, at some point you have to give the money away.
I could only spend maybe a hundred million or so and thats my limits. I'd buy everyone in my family a house, I'd buy myself a house, and then what?
The rest of my time would be spent partying or traveling around giving money away.
well you only have so much time in a day so not everyone wants to spend money on junk.
I myself would personally spend my money going out to parties, hanging with girls, hosting parties at my mansion, you know like Mr.Hefner.
I'd use my money to surround myself with ladies and party. I could do that at home and it wouldnt really cost alot of money, I could be set with just a billion dollars, hell I could be set with 100 million.
So I'm guessing hes given around 0.1% of his wealth away. The guy gives away millions but has almost 50 billion dollars, am I supposed to be impressed? I'd be impressed if the man gave away a few billion dollars at a time and not in stupid ways. When he spends money on schools I'm impressed when he actually builds a school, but usually he does not build a school, usually he just donates Microsoft products (big deal) to schools.
Bill Gates does give stuff, but not as much as he should. Ted Turner gives more than Bill Gates.
They will put it in the bank and save it!
Why do you ask stupid questions? You know damn well Bill Gates isnt the richest man in the world because he actually spends his money.
Do they? I have statistics which say the poor pay most of the taxes while the rich pay far less taxes yet pay more money in taxes (well they have more money so who cares how much money they pay)
http://www.itepnet.org/whopays.htm
if its done right they'll have to pay for the service.
Dont sell the game as a product, let them connect to a network and access the games that way, or sell the game on a console, if you think China is so big with piracy well Japan wouldnt be able to sell anything like the playstation and other game consoles, Gameboy would be dead and there would be no video games.
Let the hardware makers find ways to handle piracy, the software makers just make the games and profit, the hardware makers could sell a box and internet access to games and suddenly you cant pirate because the games dont download.
In George Bush's most recent speech, a new solution was put forward to help create jobs and spur growth, SALARY CAPS! Thats right, just like what we have in sports, a cap on your salary will allow companies to hire more workers with the same money. Add to the fact that we can get rid of overtime pay and make them work harder and longer for free, maybe we can even cut their salary and reduce to exactly $1 above their cost of living and set the cap right there.
They want us fighting each other so they can stay in power. Why do you think Bush wants to give tax cuts to the rich in the first place when most of the rich were saying they didnt want the tax cuts to begin with?
So please remember, if you want to see George Gates get richer please vote for Bush in 2004, you'll see many more tax cuts and the wealth of Mr.Gates will increase further.
Show me some real statistics, anyone can say "Well the rich pay 92% of taxes" but without saying which taxes that number means nothing. The poor pay a greater percentage of the social security tax, and a greater percentage of their income in general goes to taxes. The poor pay the majority of all taxes, the rich only pay the majority of sales taxes.
So lets hike the sales taxes through the roof and get rid of the social security and income taxes so the rich can actually pay 92% of all taxes.
The best thing we can do for the economy is cut taxes for the rich while raising taxes for the poor, dont you see? Dont you get it? The best solution for all economic problems is to allow the rich to keep more of their own money. In fact the poor should pay 100% of all taxes since they happen to use all the resources taxes produce anyway, the rich can put their kids in private school and rely on private resources so why should they pay taxes so you can put your kid in school? Why should Bill Gates pay taxes so you can get your medication and go to the hospital?
Taxes == Communism and only the poor are Communists.
You people act surprised to see that suddenly the rich are richer! Well they pay less taxes so of course they are richer! This is the whole point behind the tax cuts for the rich!
What did you people think would happen? That the rich would actually start spending because you gave them alittle more money?
When did we even mention the home users? My point is, big corporate users are the first to migrate to Linux and the benefits will hit the home users later.
This means as more corporate users switch from word to Star Office, the benefits to open office are passed on to the home user.
People do not want to pay $500 for software every few years, the corporations dont want to pay it, the user cannot afford to pay it, and its just not going to work. People will however pay $500 in services.
The professional and business market (small and medium sized businesses) are where the money is at, but I'm a user, and it benefits me to get free software, I dont have the money to pay for the support, and its not important for me to have the support, if I were running a business I would definately go with Redhat.
Thats not the point. China creates market share, their governments wont spend a dime on us, but their people will be using Linux allowing game companies to develop, software advances, and this in the end will allow our companies to offer services to the Chinese, not the Chinese government.
The Chinese will use our services if we are the only ones providing them, just like the Japanese, also we can buy their services, games etc, overall competition helps the industry.
Maybe Chinas version of Linux will be better than Redhats.
Yes so if I am president of China and I say only Linux can be sold in stores, and in response everyone in China buys Linux, does this mean Linux is a better product?
Its dead, the only reason Microsofts numbers are so inflated is due to anti trust and other illegal tactics. When you have a monopoly you can force people to buy your software by packing it into ever PC sold, and you can set the price to be high $300 or maybe $500.
This however cannot be sustained forever, eventually OEMs will begin to pack Linux, people in the third world will eventually stop buying, Linux will have such a high marketshare that Microsoft wont have a monopoly anymore and economics will come into play.
Thats what happened to the record industry, P2P removed the distribution monopoly they had and their whole business fell apart.
You actually think Microsoft can keep doing this? Even Microsoft knows they cant get away with selling Windows and Office for much longer, thats why they want to sell tech support and upgrades now, or at least are discussing the idea.
Face it, why will anyone use Microsofts crap when its being flooded with worms and viruses and costs $300?
Speaking of Karma whoring, is it Karma whoring to make a post thats completely off topic?
I guess the mods like to mod trolls today, including you.
I'm very pro Redhat, they make the best version of Linux in my opinion. Gentoo seems interesting but ridiculous to setup, Debian is too old and would require I upgrade every component after I install it, Redhat is easy to install and fairly up to date, its also easy to upgrade.
I dont very much care for the RPM system, I hate dependencies, I dont really like everything about Redhat, but it works so I use it.
Redhat has contributed new code, they are doing a good job at improving functionality. RPM while I dont like it does improve functionality, Up2date while I dont use it does help newbies, and bluecurve which I dont really like does make Linux easier to use.
I think the old model of selling products is dead anyway, its dead in the music industry, its dead in the software industry. Theres only so much software you can sell to people, what? You think Microsoft's model would work in the third world? You are wrong.
Redhat actually has a better long term model, a service model which will work despite the changes in economy. The service model basically says, take our software for free, but if you want help using this software, sign up for support.
This will work great for Operating Systems, Microsoft could easily give away Windows and charge for support, antivirus, upgrades, etc. China is now moving toward Linux, when big governments such as these move toward Linux, this means the revenue stream grows x10, government has the money to buy support, and they are the kind of customers who cannot afford to make mistakes and are likely to buy support.
School systems also are the type of customers, businesses I think at least the small to medium sized businesses can use the support, the large businesses can hire their own experts.
Your logic is perfect and on target, thats exactly what I was trying to tell these people.
Its people who want to leech like this who kill everything, open source will get killed if people think "well why should I ever pay a dime, its free so I'll just take it!"
They forget that someone had to code the software, reminds me of the millions of Linux Mandrake users who want to use Linux Mandrake but cant join the club, or people who want games in Linux but wont join Transgaming, wont buy games from Loki, etc.
Its bad to abuse free products. AOL does not have to allow free access to their networks, they can start charging, they can restrict access to AOL users, give them some credit for creating good software you selfish brat.
This is the problem with the open source community, people are so willing to be for free software, and open standards but then dont want to pay their dues via writing code or paying. I'm subscribed to transgaming, i've paid slashdot, i've donated money to various open source projects so please shut up.
If Trillian wants to profit off IM let them develop their own network, if AOL wants to profit off the network they created they have every right to do that, you arent paying a penny to download your contact list from their network and you know I hope they start charging, thats the ultimate solution, just charge a fee to download your contact list, charge a fee to see whos online, or let people and trillian set up their own servers to handle the problem.
Also there have been many other software releases which were successful before Trillian and no one cared, the reason Trillian gets attention is because its actually a company.
Jabber has been around all this time and no one used it.
Trillian is the only client which directly robs sthem of ad revenue. Gaim is for Linux and Microsoft could give a damn about Linux clients, Jabber isnt all that important either, but Trillian is a client thats actually better than their client, and the masses are using it, this is very very bad.
So why not make information a commodity?
Lets make everything open source and make information free just because everyone needs information to survive.
I agree with what you say, but Trillian is a company, they actually profit off other peoples networks and so I dont agree with Trillian.
I'd like to see Trillian sued or driven out of business myself. Look, if Trillian were open source freeware who would care? I dont think MSN and Yahoo would be doing this if it were just GAIM or even Jabber, the reason this happens with Trillian is because Trillian is a company, its that simple.
I would do the same thing if some other company were getting rich off my network. Ad revenue is one thing, and only AOL/Yahoo can be blamed for losing out on the Linux ad revenue etc, but when it comes to Trillian theres no reason for Trillian to exist.