"We have lots of things for kids these days.. Parks.
People sell drugs in parks, shoot each other in parks, rob people, and do other crazy and stupid shit. So you cant be serious when you tell me you want kids to hang out in parks, what park? Central Park? Theres no safety in a park, not in any city. Drug dealers sell drugs in parks, drug users do drugs in parks, thieves and other criminals live or hang out in parks.
Public pools Maybe there are public pools, but not many of them, and they arent exactly free.
while libraries may not be cool, they do usually have the internet
Yes libraries are a good option, much better option than the park, little kids get kidnapped from parks, older kids get introduced to drugs and crime in parks.
Personally, I'd rather be seen in a library than a computer cafe as far as the geek factor goes.
Kids want to play games, Libraries are strict about not allowing quake, we want kids to actually GO to these hang outs, alot of kids dont want to do WORK on the internet, they want to PLAY on the internet, and I'd rather kids play online playing quake, than outside in the real world acting stupid.
There are often local clubs for chess, foreign languages, and even stuff like computers and astronomy for even young children.
Why do you assume everyone is as smart as you? Alot of kids arent a genius, alot of them dont like games like chess, they dont want to go to school after coming home from school, these kids want to do something exciting, you know, they want to play, not work. Stop thinking like an adult for a moment and try to think like a kid, reduce your maturity level a bit and tell me if you'd have fun learning foreign languages, doing your homework on the internet, and learning astronomy, if you had fun doing this stuff as a kid you werent an average kid, you were a nerd. Nerds stay out of trouble by nature.
All of these places I've mentioned are in my own little area which is out in the middle of no where NC
You live in NC where parks are still safe places for kids to go, Go to New York and or LA, and hang out at the park, not only do you have to worry about kidnappers, you have to worry about drug dealers selling drugs to your kids, you have to worry about your kids being robbed, raped, etc. The chess club? The average kid doesnt even play a game like chess, the average kid wants to play Quake, watch MTV, and seek excitement. You arent going to keep kids out of trouble by putting them to sleep in the chess club.
The fact is, you can have ALL the after school programs you want, but you can't force kids to go to them.
These same kids who you say dont go to Afterschool programs, they sure go to parties, clubs, raves, etc, they sure know how to get access to drugs, they even sell drugs, you seem like you dont know anything about how our youth has changed.
Better role models are required at home, in school, and law enforcement can play a big role in this.
Law Enforcement? Law Enforcement are not role models, most youth, they dont like cops, they dont look up to cops, some of them even hate cops. Parents? Not everyone has perfect parents, just because you did doesnt mean every single kid in this country does.
My point is, you can almost always find free or charity funded programs out there
Yes theres some programs out there but they are under funded. Am I the only one who notices that kids are joining gangs, selling drugs, robbing people, using drugs, getting pregnant, getting raped, raping others, shooting and killing people etc? Am I blind?
If these things are happening, it means we need to put more government funds into protecting our children.
It's the parents' or the kid's fault for not going there.
Its societies fault, the parent can only do so much, a parents job is to provide food, a place to live, and a proper education to their kid, its n
"To know what's best for you, you have to understand an issue. You have to understand all sides of said issue. Even for intelligent people, there is no time to understand every side of every issue, especially when you have to work to provide for your family. "
Here you go assuming alot of things. Not everyone in this country has a family to provide to. Not everyone in this country is married with children, we have alot of college studnents, and single people who have plenty of free time. We have old people who also have free time. The internet exists so people can vote on alot more of the issues than before, your point of view is debateable.
Gun control is perfectly constitutional so long as the right to bear arms isn't infringed upon. Controlling the guns is fine, controlling the people (to say they can't have guns) isn't.
Did you know stunguns and bullet proof vests are illegal in certain states? When certain weapons are "illegal" it removes our right to defend ourselves.
Then they can get it from the private sector instead of me paying for it for them.
The problem with the private sector is quality. Running an afterschool program for profit, usually means the people involved dont give a damn about helping the kids, the people involved are doing it for the money. This is fine for certain types of work but for public service work, these types of things should be a community effort. Imagine if churches were private sector and paid for by corperations via sponserships. Imagine working for Microsoft and being told by Bill Gates you may go to his Church. Theres some things that the private sector can never be good at, Kids arent livestock but the private sector will treat them like livestock because the only thing the private sector cares about is profit.
No, they don't! They want it, but they don't need it. Alot of people do need healthcare, consider the fact that people are losing their jobs and without a job how do you go to the hospital when sick? The jobs we can get now, temp jobs, do not provide health insurence, the job market is more competitive and the benefits are less. We need a better heath insurence policy to adapt to the new market. In the new economy a person may switch jobs every other week or every few months, people work at temp agencies and as consultants, temp agencies allow them to compete with people overseas, but they miss out on alot, healthcare is one of those benefits.
My college provides health care for its students through its medical school. Aside from that, college students are covered under their parents' health insurance generally, and otherwise they can take out their own insurance. Why should I pay for it for them?
College doesnt provide it, you have to pay for it. College students have enough to pay for, I dont think people without jobs should be denied healthcare, I think people with jobs should pay for healthcare. BY universal healthcare I'm saying everyone who doesnt have a job, everyone whos in school, and every child should have health care. This is lives we are talking about, I dont want to see people dying from the flu because I was too greedy to pay taxes.
Howso? People are out of work because jobs are being shipped overseas (and accross borders) due to corporate greed. This is not remedied by universal health care. This is remedied by..erm...convincing companies in this country to employ people in this country.
Once upon a time, there was a great depression, the economy was shit, how did our government solve it? Social Security, and other programs which gave workers confidence. By providing a safety net workers were more willing to go to work, knowing they will be protected when they retire. We are in a situation now where we have to do something to restore confidence in the America way of life, the way to do this is to add new safety nets, Universal healthcare, this safety net is needed because the economy is getting tough, we have to compete o
America wasnt designed to be a plutocracy either. "Why does it matter? It matters because people are idiots"
So are politicians and rich millionaires who control them. How would the world be any different if the idiot masses controlled the world instead of the idiot monarchy/capitalists?
"The people don't know what's best for them." Ah and who does know whats best for them? You sound like Adolph Hitler.I guess you want to live in a 1984 style world, why didnt you move to Iraq where the Iraqis didnt/dont know whats best for them? How about China? They dont even let their people use the net because the gov knows what the people need to see and what they dont.
"Granted, the people they elect often don't either, but the goal is for them to elect people who they trust to make the right choice with all the information. Universal healthcare would fuck our entire healthcare system. Canadians come to the US to work in the medical field because under their socialized health care system they don't make a decent living."
Yes but the rest of us dont make a decent living, Teachers dont make a decent living either but are expected to help every child. Whats your point? Should we end public schools so teachers can all make a decent living? Alot of kids wouldnt be educated at all, our world would be less educated. This is bad for our society.
Having more police isn't socialist, it's just the government doing the job it's been assigned properly.
I dont need the government to provide police, it says in the original plan that there arent supposed to be ANY government police.We are supposed to form militias, We are supposed to form our own police, the government has nothing to do with it. We are supposed to be able to form our own private groups, buy our guns, bombs, and whatever else. Why cant we buy a tank? Why cant we buy military weapons? Why cant we build a nuclear bomb? I mean if the government was supposed to be exactly like the constitution says, what the hell is gun control? What the hell are these laws saying you cant buy certain weapons or use bullet proof vests? Why cant we build nuclear weapons if we want? Why cant we buy tanks, jets, etc?
"Bigger schools falls under the same category. As for afterschool programs, that's slight socialization, but the people who want that probably wouldn't if they had to pay a fair tax rate instead of leeching off of the rest of us."
Consider the fact that people have to work harder and longer hours. Also consider the fact that single parents exist, people divorce, and alot of kids come home to empty houses. Kids need places to go after school, afterschool programs are a MUST! This isnt to benefit a single guy like me, or someone like you, this is to protect and improve society.
" Just because people want something doesn't mean they should get it. If it conflicts with a need, they need to be told to shut the fuck up"
Your needs are not as important as societies need. You dont need after school programs, too bad, the majority of the people in this country do. You dont need universal healthcare? Guess what, most people need this, when people grow old they dont have any way to pay their medical bills, college students dont have any way to pay their medical bills, with the job market getting more competitive we need universal healthcare to keep society from collapsing.
We need better schools and we need to keep our kids safe and off the streets, we do not want to breed criminals and prostitutes, we want to breed lawyers, doctors and scientists, you NEED to keep these kids out of trouble and properly educate them. Kids today no longer grow up in 2 parent homes, this is not the 1950s, soon the majority of kids in this country will come home to an empty house, with no parents, and no supervision. How are we supposed to protect the kids without socialism? These kids need libraries, computer centers, afterschool
Is this what Bush really wants? I dont think he knows what hes doing if you ask me. But by pushing people out of the cities, does he expect all the problems of the city not to follow him to his rural homelands?
All the crime, drugs, toxic waste and other problems will move out of the expensive city to somewhere, wonder where it will be.
Not everyone is competiting to earn money, some people just want to earn enough money to pay their bills, and do a job which they feel good about doing, which they believe will benefit the world, alot of people would prefer to feel useful working as a teacher, than feel like a useless peon as an office manager for a nameless faceless private company.
You have to understand that absolute Capitalism cannot work in this world. Just because you think it can doesnt mean it can, if you think you can live in world with no taxes, and no cities have fun, I dont want to stay in the USA if thats where its going.
People earn alot of money do have drive, but they arent always the hardest working, the CEO may have more drive than the peon but the peon does all the work for the CEO.
You see, people dont get paid on merit or based on how hard they work, you live in a fantasy world where perfect Capitalism can exist. You are as stupid as the soviets who thought perfect Socialism could exist.
Some people in this world are greedy (such as yourself) and would never allow perfect Socialism.
Theres also just as many people who arent greedy and who work to improve the world, people who arent motivated by money dont fit into your Capitalist world. The only way society can work is to have places for people who want to work for non profits and do work to improve society, we also need places for people who want to save lives, like policemen, firemen, and others, we NEED places for these people and these people have no place in the private sector.
This is why we need socialism, I myself hate the corperate world, you love the corperate world, the USA was not founded so one group of Americans can decide for all of us how to live, the USA was founded on FREEDOM, and this means FREEDOM through DEMOCRACY, if we vote on it and people want bigger more socialist government the people should have it.
If we want universal healthcare, more police, bigger schools, and afterschool programs for our kids, we should have it. People who work in these fields dont do it for the money, you cannot understand what motivates a teacher, a fireman etc because you act out on greed.
Not everyone is competiting to earn money, some people just want to earn enough money to pay their bills, and do a job which they feel good about doing, which they believe will benefit the world, alot of people would prefer to feel useless working as a teacher, than feel like a useless peon as an office manager for a nameless faceless private company.
What does George Bush have to do with Democracy? Bush is not pro Democracy, he got put in through the supreme court, he has not passed any laws to give more people to the people, I dont see how hes pro democracy.
His Anti Terrorism laws actually rob us of freedom.
Bush has 1 year left. Hes been president from 2001-2003. In 2004 its the new election, so ok it wasnt exactly 4 years, maybe it was more like 3, but hes still been in office almost an entire term, what has he done? He has 1 year left, unless he works a miracle hes done.
Please do not try to promote censorship, thats not good, I can blame Bush if i want, hes President and we have to blame someone. I'm sick of people making excuses for Bush, now with the weapons of mass destruction thing, people are looking for someone to blame, so they ignore Bush and look at the CIA?
No, Bush is President, not the CIA.
Bush has one last chance to do something right. His election is on the line, currently hes under pressure, the weapons of mass destruction have not been found, the economy is shit, his tax cuts while they did help the stock market, have not done anything for the economy, he has not fixed the leak in our econonmy which leaks all our tax money to India and China, until he does, tax cuts wont do anything to create jobs.
Bush didnt properly cut taxes like Clinton did. When you cut taxes you want to also increase federal funding to the states so states dont raise taxes. Otherwise cutting taxes isnt doing anything but transfering money from the city to the rural communities.
The city needs taxes to function, rural communities dont.
Dude we arent even talking about housing, houses cost $300,000 on average, the average person who isnt a white colar worker cannot afford a house. I cannot afford a house, unless I'm making over $60,70k a year I wont be able to afford a house, PERIOD.
We are talking about apartments, condos, and things such as this. The price on apartments ALWAYS go up and never go down, the price on condos are rising and not going down.
Who cares about interest rates if the house costs $500,000? You can blame it on anything you want. Houses cost too much because we arent buildinng enough of them, the demand is too high for the supply.
Apartments are too expensive because people want to actually profit off the land they own, they charge high prices for rent because the taxes to own the land are high, the solution for the apartment problem is lower taxes.
hahahahahaha no they are RISING. Houses cost more now in MA than they ever had, rent and apartment prices for a studio are over $1000 a month, heres what will happen, people will either live with roomates, or they will move to China. I do not see the average person paying $2000 a month rent while they make $1500 a month.
We should tax the hell out of Microsoft and all these other companies who want to hire mostly overseas. Why the hell give them tax cuts? So we can create more jobs for the Indian economy?
I'm not against tax cuts but we should give these tax cuts to businesses which hire 90% or above US workforce. Bush's tax cut should have been more targetted so it could combat Globalism.
Who do I blame? George W Bush, because hes the only one with the power to fix this problem and all he is doing is making it worse by just blindly throwing money at the problem. You dont give Nike and Microsoft more money, I mean sure it creates jobs but where will these jobs be created? Not here, so hows it help our economy?
I mean if you expect to have a place to live, sure if your dollar is worth alot you can buy toys, but people dont need toys to live, they need a house.
So now what? Perhaps you can buy a house in China, Japan or some other country, have your family live there while you work in the USA? Is that it?
Everyone wants to blame everyone and everything but the President when its HIS job to solve this problem.
He ignored the ecnoomy for 4 years, now our economy is absolute shit, its almost a great depression type situation here. Whats Bush going to do about it? Give tax cuts? Microsoft will use the extra money to hire more Indians, Thanks alot Mr. Bush for giving more jobs away using tax money.
If the gov wants to create jobs they need to invest in R&D, and give tax cuts to small businesses who hire a certain percentage of American employees while raising the taxes of businesses who hire mostly overseas.
Why should you give a taxcut to a sellout traitor business? If Microsoft wants to hire 70% Indian workers, they shouldnt get a tax cut, instead restrict tax cuts to companies who hire 90% American workers or above.
Food costs the same, Rent goes up, and you are without a job. How can your quality of life go up just because certain devices and toys you dont really need are cheaper? With no job or with a mc donalds job you'll be struggling to pay your rent.
Why dont buy American made clothes, American made computers, American made oh wait I know why, because your salary isnt going up and American made costs American dollars.
So yes they are fair, the majority of the people in this country have kids in public school, the majority want healthcare, the majority WANT higher taxes.
Cant you see this? People want the rich to pay most of the taxes if not all the taxes, and you cant think of a reason why they shouldnt, I mean they are rich and they wont even notice.
People have been putting it off for a long time, making excuses for him.
You can blame 911, Enron, anything you want, but ultimately the reason our economy is terrible is because of George W Bush. Perhaps if our government actually promoted businesses hiring Americans, by using tax incentives instead of just giving a Trillion dollars directly to the Indian economy, we'd see more jobs created.
Tax cuts to big businesses will not create jobs, we need to punish businesses who dont hire Americans, if they hire Indian workers we should boycott them, I mean we boycott the french over some stupid crap, but we cant get Bush to go on TV and tell us to boycott other companies?
Come on people, even the so called conservatives are selling us out.
Theres no fix for Globalization, but we certainly can slow it down, and make ourselves immune to it long enough so we can create our next big industries.
I'll tell you why. First people want to believe they can trust the government. Second people want to believe they can trust the media. Third people are ignorant.
The Media is controlled by the government, the government will have you fired if you go on TV and say the wrong thing, just ask Bill Mahr or any of these others who said the wrong thing on TV.
People want to protect their jobs, and because of their political status alot of them know they wont get any more secret information from the government, no more leaks, nothing, if they were to support any conspiricy which could harm the government.
This is why media people refuse to believe that Bush may have lied. They refuse to believe Bush may have lied to the American people to get us to go to war with Iraq, even when intelligence officials and others are saying he wasnt being truthful, even when the evidence says he could have been lying, people want to protect the government so they blame the CIA. Why the CIA? Because the CIA always takes the blame.
The Nazis had project Flugelrad and Wing Wheel, the British had Project Y, Canada had Y-2, and the USA had Silverbug.
Do your research on these projects to find out more information. We have had saucer shaped craft for a while, since the 1940s, around the same time the Roswell situation happeend.
If you want.gov links you'll search for them yourself, consider the fact that these projects were classified, finding detailed information about these projects from the government may not be easy as we cannot even find out how the stealth bomber works.
Back up your claims. Show at least one quote that I've made that proves me an Idiot.
Posts you disagree with do not make me an Idiot, it just means you dont like what I have to say, too bad, freedom of speech is part of the constitution.
Thats because of the government.
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When the government has specific information and we can prove they have it, but then they lie consistantly, saying its a saucer, then weather balloon, then its something else, this makes people think the government is lying.
Perhaps the government should have told the truth in the first place, if they discovered a saucer they should have just said "We have discovered a UFO"
Not lie about it for years. I think they did discover a saucer, mainly because their first report to the press was that they discovered a saucer, and internal documents leaked onto the internet have been studied which have proof that they found a saucer.
No mentioned of aliens, just a saucer shaped craft. This could be anything, it could be a spy craft, a test gone wrong, anything. If the government doesnt know what it is, they'd rather us believe its Aliens than admit they dont know what they found or where its from.
Theres many UFO conspiracy theories.
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Not all of them say its Aliens, you choose to pick the most far out theory, I could do the same, theres people who actually believe the moon is made of cheese, thats a far out theory.
Theories which are actually possible, such as the moon landing never happening, this is actually debateable, also you cannot deny the fact that UFOs do exist, we do not know whos controlling them we just know they are there.
Theres theories which say people control them and theres theories which say aliens control them. With either of these theories the government would have kept information about them secret. When the government doesnt know what something is they dont tell anyone about it. The government loves to keep military secrets.
Area51 exists, its proven, you can walk there and see it. Theres been UFO style crafts flying around the area for years, perhaps the government makes these crafts to spy on us? They could be unmanned spy crafts.
The germans could have made crafts such as these back during roswell, perhaps it was a test, maybe they put ape like creatures in the craft to test it and it crashed, our government could have discovered new technology, kept it secret, and hid this technology for years, if its spy technology you cant expect them to ever release or declassify it.
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"We have lots of things for kids these days.. Parks.
People sell drugs in parks, shoot each other in parks, rob people, and do other crazy and stupid shit. So you cant be serious when you tell me you want kids to hang out in parks, what park? Central Park? Theres no safety in a park, not in any city. Drug dealers sell drugs in parks, drug users do drugs in parks, thieves and other criminals live or hang out in parks.
Public pools Maybe there are public pools, but not many of them, and they arent exactly free.
while libraries may not be cool, they do usually have the internet
Yes libraries are a good option, much better option than the park, little kids get kidnapped from parks, older kids get introduced to drugs and crime in parks.
Personally, I'd rather be seen in a library than a computer cafe as far as the geek factor goes.
Kids want to play games, Libraries are strict about not allowing quake, we want kids to actually GO to these hang outs, alot of kids dont want to do WORK on the internet, they want to PLAY on the internet, and I'd rather kids play online playing quake, than outside in the real world acting stupid.
There are often local clubs for chess, foreign languages, and even stuff like computers and astronomy for even young children.
Why do you assume everyone is as smart as you? Alot of kids arent a genius, alot of them dont like games like chess, they dont want to go to school after coming home from school, these kids want to do something exciting, you know, they want to play, not work. Stop thinking like an adult for a moment and try to think like a kid, reduce your maturity level a bit and tell me if you'd have fun learning foreign languages, doing your homework on the internet, and learning astronomy, if you had fun doing this stuff as a kid you werent an average kid, you were a nerd. Nerds stay out of trouble by nature.
All of these places I've mentioned are in my own little area which is out in the middle of no where NC
You live in NC where parks are still safe places for kids to go, Go to New York and or LA, and hang out at the park, not only do you have to worry about kidnappers, you have to worry about drug dealers selling drugs to your kids, you have to worry about your kids being robbed, raped, etc.
The chess club? The average kid doesnt even play a game like chess, the average kid wants to play Quake, watch MTV, and seek excitement. You arent going to keep kids out of trouble by putting them to sleep in the chess club.
The fact is, you can have ALL the after school programs you want, but you can't force kids to go to them.
These same kids who you say dont go to Afterschool programs, they sure go to parties, clubs, raves, etc, they sure know how to get access to drugs, they even sell drugs, you seem like you dont know anything about how our youth has changed.
Better role models are required at home, in school, and law enforcement can play a big role in this.
Law Enforcement? Law Enforcement are not role models, most youth, they dont like cops, they dont look up to cops, some of them even hate cops. Parents? Not everyone has perfect parents, just because you did doesnt mean every single kid in this country does.
My point is, you can almost always find free or charity funded programs out there
Yes theres some programs out there but they are under funded. Am I the only one who notices that kids are joining gangs, selling drugs, robbing people, using drugs, getting pregnant, getting raped, raping others, shooting and killing people etc? Am I blind?
If these things are happening, it means we need to put more government funds into protecting our children.
It's the parents' or the kid's fault for not going there.
Its societies fault, the parent can only do so much, a parents job is to provide food, a place to live, and a proper education to their kid, its n
"To know what's best for you, you have to understand an issue. You have to understand all sides of said issue. Even for intelligent people, there is no time to understand every side of every issue, especially when you have to work to provide for your family. "
Here you go assuming alot of things. Not everyone in this country has a family to provide to. Not everyone in this country is married with children, we have alot of college studnents, and single people who have plenty of free time. We have old people who also have free time. The internet exists so people can vote on alot more of the issues than before, your point of view is debateable.
Gun control is perfectly constitutional so long as the right to bear arms isn't infringed upon. Controlling the guns is fine, controlling the people (to say they can't have guns) isn't.
Did you know stunguns and bullet proof vests are illegal in certain states? When certain weapons are "illegal" it removes our right to defend ourselves.
Then they can get it from the private sector instead of me paying for it for them.
The problem with the private sector is quality. Running an afterschool program for profit, usually means the people involved dont give a damn about helping the kids, the people involved are doing it for the money. This is fine for certain types of work but for public service work, these types of things should be a community effort. Imagine if churches were private sector and paid for by corperations via sponserships. Imagine working for Microsoft and being told by Bill Gates you may go to his Church. Theres some things that the private sector can never be good at, Kids arent livestock but the private sector will treat them like livestock because the only thing the private sector cares about is profit.
No, they don't! They want it, but they don't need it. Alot of people do need healthcare, consider the fact that people are losing their jobs and without a job how do you go to the hospital when sick? The jobs we can get now, temp jobs, do not provide health insurence, the job market is more competitive and the benefits are less. We need a better heath insurence policy to adapt to the new market. In the new economy a person may switch jobs every other week or every few months, people work at temp agencies and as consultants, temp agencies allow them to compete with people overseas, but they miss out on alot, healthcare is one of those benefits.
My college provides health care for its students through its medical school. Aside from that, college students are covered under their parents' health insurance generally, and otherwise they can take out their own insurance. Why should I pay for it for them?
College doesnt provide it, you have to pay for it. College students have enough to pay for, I dont think people without jobs should be denied healthcare, I think people with jobs should pay for healthcare. BY universal healthcare I'm saying everyone who doesnt have a job, everyone whos in school, and every child should have health care. This is lives we are talking about, I dont want to see people dying from the flu because I was too greedy to pay taxes.
Howso? People are out of work because jobs are being shipped overseas (and accross borders) due to corporate greed. This is not remedied by universal health care. This is remedied by..erm...convincing companies in this country to employ people in this country.
Once upon a time, there was a great depression, the economy was shit, how did our government solve it? Social Security, and other programs which gave workers confidence. By providing a safety net workers were more willing to go to work, knowing they will be protected when they retire. We are in a situation now where we have to do something to restore confidence in the America way of life, the way to do this is to add new safety nets, Universal healthcare, this safety net is needed because the economy is getting tough, we have to compete o
America wasnt designed to be a plutocracy either. "Why does it matter? It matters because people are idiots"
.I guess you want to live in a 1984 style world, why didnt you move to Iraq where the Iraqis didnt/dont know whats best for them? How about China? They dont even let their people use the net because the gov knows what the people need to see and what they dont.
So are politicians and rich millionaires who control them. How would the world be any different if the idiot masses controlled the world instead of the idiot monarchy/capitalists?
"The people don't know what's best for them." Ah and who does know whats best for them? You sound like Adolph Hitler
"Granted, the people they elect often don't either, but the goal is for them to elect people who they trust to make the right choice with all the information. Universal healthcare would fuck our entire healthcare system. Canadians come to the US to work in the medical field because under their socialized health care system they don't make a decent living."
Yes but the rest of us dont make a decent living, Teachers dont make a decent living either but are expected to help every child. Whats your point? Should we end public schools so teachers can all make a decent living? Alot of kids wouldnt be educated at all, our world would be less educated. This is bad for our society.
Having more police isn't socialist, it's just the government doing the job it's been assigned properly.
I dont need the government to provide police, it says in the original plan that there arent supposed to be ANY government police.We are supposed to form militias, We are supposed to form our own police, the government has nothing to do with it. We are supposed to be able to form our own private groups, buy our guns, bombs, and whatever else. Why cant we buy a tank? Why cant we buy military weapons? Why cant we build a nuclear bomb? I mean if the government was supposed to be exactly like the constitution says, what the hell is gun control? What the hell are these laws saying you cant buy certain weapons or use bullet proof vests? Why cant we build nuclear weapons if we want? Why cant we buy tanks, jets, etc?
"Bigger schools falls under the same category. As for afterschool programs, that's slight socialization, but the people who want that probably wouldn't if they had to pay a fair tax rate instead of leeching off of the rest of us."
Consider the fact that people have to work harder and longer hours. Also consider the fact that single parents exist, people divorce, and alot of kids come home to empty houses. Kids need places to go after school, afterschool programs are a MUST! This isnt to benefit a single guy like me, or someone like you, this is to protect and improve society.
" Just because people want something doesn't mean they should get it. If it conflicts with a need, they need to be told to shut the fuck up"
Your needs are not as important as societies need. You dont need after school programs, too bad, the majority of the people in this country do. You dont need universal healthcare? Guess what, most people need this, when people grow old they dont have any way to pay their medical bills, college students dont have any way to pay their medical bills, with the job market getting more competitive we need universal healthcare to keep society from collapsing.
We need better schools and we need to keep our kids safe and off the streets, we do not want to breed criminals and prostitutes, we want to breed lawyers, doctors and scientists, you NEED to keep these kids out of trouble and properly educate them. Kids today no longer grow up in 2 parent homes, this is not the 1950s, soon the majority of kids in this country will come home to an empty house, with no parents, and no supervision. How are we supposed to protect the kids without socialism? These kids need libraries, computer centers, afterschool
Is this what Bush really wants? I dont think he knows what hes doing if you ask me. But by pushing people out of the cities, does he expect all the problems of the city not to follow him to his rural homelands?
All the crime, drugs, toxic waste and other problems will move out of the expensive city to somewhere, wonder where it will be.
Not everyone is competiting to earn money, some people just want to earn enough money to pay their bills, and do a job which they feel good about doing, which they believe will benefit the world, alot of people would prefer to feel useful working as a teacher, than feel like a useless peon as an office manager for a nameless faceless private company.
You have to understand that absolute Capitalism cannot work in this world. Just because you think it can doesnt mean it can, if you think you can live in world with no taxes, and no cities have fun, I dont want to stay in the USA if thats where its going.
People earn alot of money do have drive, but they arent always the hardest working, the CEO may have more drive than the peon but the peon does all the work for the CEO.
You see, people dont get paid on merit or based on how hard they work, you live in a fantasy world where perfect Capitalism can exist. You are as stupid as the soviets who thought perfect Socialism could exist.
Some people in this world are greedy (such as yourself) and would never allow perfect Socialism.
Theres also just as many people who arent greedy and who work to improve the world, people who arent motivated by money dont fit into your Capitalist world. The only way society can work is to have places for people who want to work for non profits and do work to improve society, we also need places for people who want to save lives, like policemen, firemen, and others, we NEED places for these people and these people have no place in the private sector.
This is why we need socialism, I myself hate the corperate world, you love the corperate world, the USA was not founded so one group of Americans can decide for all of us how to live, the USA was founded on FREEDOM, and this means FREEDOM through DEMOCRACY, if we vote on it and people want bigger more socialist government the people should have it.
If we want universal healthcare, more police, bigger schools, and afterschool programs for our kids, we should have it. People who work in these fields dont do it for the money, you cannot understand what motivates a teacher, a fireman etc because you act out on greed.
Not everyone is competiting to earn money, some people just want to earn enough money to pay their bills, and do a job which they feel good about doing, which they believe will benefit the world, alot of people would prefer to feel useless working as a teacher, than feel like a useless peon as an office manager for a nameless faceless private company.
What does George Bush have to do with Democracy? Bush is not pro Democracy, he got put in through the supreme court, he has not passed any laws to give more people to the people, I dont see how hes pro democracy.
His Anti Terrorism laws actually rob us of freedom.
Bush has 1 year left. Hes been president from 2001-2003. In 2004 its the new election, so ok it wasnt exactly 4 years, maybe it was more like 3, but hes still been in office almost an entire term, what has he done? He has 1 year left, unless he works a miracle hes done.
Please do not try to promote censorship, thats not good, I can blame Bush if i want, hes President and we have to blame someone. I'm sick of people making excuses for Bush, now with the weapons of mass destruction thing, people are looking for someone to blame, so they ignore Bush and look at the CIA?
No, Bush is President, not the CIA.
Bush has one last chance to do something right. His election is on the line, currently hes under pressure, the weapons of mass destruction have not been found, the economy is shit, his tax cuts while they did help the stock market, have not done anything for the economy, he has not fixed the leak in our econonmy which leaks all our tax money to India and China, until he does, tax cuts wont do anything to create jobs.
Bush didnt properly cut taxes like Clinton did. When you cut taxes you want to also increase federal funding to the states so states dont raise taxes. Otherwise cutting taxes isnt doing anything but transfering money from the city to the rural communities.
The city needs taxes to function, rural communities dont.
Dude we arent even talking about housing, houses cost $300,000 on average, the average person who isnt a white colar worker cannot afford a house. I cannot afford a house, unless I'm making over $60,70k a year I wont be able to afford a house, PERIOD.
We are talking about apartments, condos, and things such as this. The price on apartments ALWAYS go up and never go down, the price on condos are rising and not going down.
Who cares about interest rates if the house costs $500,000? You can blame it on anything you want. Houses cost too much because we arent buildinng enough of them, the demand is too high for the supply.
Apartments are too expensive because people want to actually profit off the land they own, they charge high prices for rent because the taxes to own the land are high, the solution for the apartment problem is lower taxes.
hahahahahaha no they are RISING. Houses cost more now in MA than they ever had, rent and apartment prices for a studio are over $1000 a month, heres what will happen, people will either live with roomates, or they will move to China. I do not see the average person paying $2000 a month rent while they make $1500 a month.
We should tax the hell out of Microsoft and all these other companies who want to hire mostly overseas. Why the hell give them tax cuts? So we can create more jobs for the Indian economy?
I'm not against tax cuts but we should give these tax cuts to businesses which hire 90% or above US workforce. Bush's tax cut should have been more targetted so it could combat Globalism.
Who do I blame? George W Bush, because hes the only one with the power to fix this problem and all he is doing is making it worse by just blindly throwing money at the problem. You dont give Nike and Microsoft more money, I mean sure it creates jobs but where will these jobs be created? Not here, so hows it help our economy?
I mean if you expect to have a place to live, sure if your dollar is worth alot you can buy toys, but people dont need toys to live, they need a house.
So now what? Perhaps you can buy a house in China, Japan or some other country, have your family live there while you work in the USA? Is that it?
Everyone wants to blame everyone and everything but the President when its HIS job to solve this problem.
He ignored the ecnoomy for 4 years, now our economy is absolute shit, its almost a great depression type situation here. Whats Bush going to do about it? Give tax cuts? Microsoft will use the extra money to hire more Indians, Thanks alot Mr. Bush for giving more jobs away using tax money.
If the gov wants to create jobs they need to invest in R&D, and give tax cuts to small businesses who hire a certain percentage of American employees while raising the taxes of businesses who hire mostly overseas.
Why should you give a taxcut to a sellout traitor business? If Microsoft wants to hire 70% Indian workers, they shouldnt get a tax cut, instead restrict tax cuts to companies who hire 90% American workers or above.
Food costs the same, Rent goes up, and you are without a job. How can your quality of life go up just because certain devices and toys you dont really need are cheaper? With no job or with a mc donalds job you'll be struggling to pay your rent.
Why dont buy American made clothes, American made computers, American made oh wait I know why, because your salary isnt going up and American made costs American dollars.
So yes they are fair, the majority of the people in this country have kids in public school, the majority want healthcare, the majority WANT higher taxes.
Cant you see this? People want the rich to pay most of the taxes if not all the taxes, and you cant think of a reason why they shouldnt, I mean they are rich and they wont even notice.
People have been putting it off for a long time, making excuses for him.
You can blame 911, Enron, anything you want, but ultimately the reason our economy is terrible is because of George W Bush. Perhaps if our government actually promoted businesses hiring Americans, by using tax incentives instead of just giving a Trillion dollars directly to the Indian economy, we'd see more jobs created.
Tax cuts to big businesses will not create jobs, we need to punish businesses who dont hire Americans, if they hire Indian workers we should boycott them, I mean we boycott the french over some stupid crap, but we cant get Bush to go on TV and tell us to boycott other companies?
Come on people, even the so called conservatives are selling us out.
Theres no fix for Globalization, but we certainly can slow it down, and make ourselves immune to it long enough so we can create our next big industries.
exactly. Theres a difference between Alien saucers and UFOs.
I'll tell you why. First people want to believe they can trust the government. Second people want to believe they can trust the media. Third people are ignorant.
The Media is controlled by the government, the government will have you fired if you go on TV and say the wrong thing, just ask Bill Mahr or any of these others who said the wrong thing on TV.
People want to protect their jobs, and because of their political status alot of them know they wont get any more secret information from the government, no more leaks, nothing, if they were to support any conspiricy which could harm the government.
This is why media people refuse to believe that Bush may have lied. They refuse to believe Bush may have lied to the American people to get us to go to war with Iraq, even when intelligence officials and others are saying he wasnt being truthful, even when the evidence says he could have been lying, people want to protect the government so they blame the CIA. Why the CIA? Because the CIA always takes the blame.
The British, The Soviets, and the Japanese all could have been testing a saucer. The Germans did have saucer technology.
Do your research before you post idiot.
.gov links you'll search for them yourself, consider the fact that these projects were classified, finding detailed information about these projects from the government may not be easy as we cannot even find out how the stealth bomber works.
CraftA Project Silverbug
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The Nazis had project Flugelrad and Wing Wheel, the British had Project Y, Canada had Y-2, and the USA had Silverbug.
Do your research on these projects to find out more information. We have had saucer shaped craft for a while, since the 1940s, around the same time the Roswell situation happeend.
If you want
Back up your claims. Show at least one quote that I've made that proves me an Idiot.
Posts you disagree with do not make me an Idiot, it just means you dont like what I have to say, too bad, freedom of speech is part of the constitution.
When the government has specific information and we can prove they have it, but then they lie consistantly, saying its a saucer, then weather balloon, then its something else, this makes people think the government is lying.
Perhaps the government should have told the truth in the first place, if they discovered a saucer they should have just said "We have discovered a UFO"
Not lie about it for years. I think they did discover a saucer, mainly because their first report to the press was that they discovered a saucer, and internal documents leaked onto the internet have been studied which have proof that they found a saucer.
No mentioned of aliens, just a saucer shaped craft. This could be anything, it could be a spy craft, a test gone wrong, anything. If the government doesnt know what it is, they'd rather us believe its Aliens than admit they dont know what they found or where its from.
Not all of them say its Aliens, you choose to pick the most far out theory, I could do the same, theres people who actually believe the moon is made of cheese, thats a far out theory.
Theories which are actually possible, such as the moon landing never happening, this is actually debateable, also you cannot deny the fact that UFOs do exist, we do not know whos controlling them we just know they are there.
Theres theories which say people control them and theres theories which say aliens control them. With either of these theories the government would have kept information about them secret. When the government doesnt know what something is they dont tell anyone about it. The government loves to keep military secrets.
Area51 exists, its proven, you can walk there and see it. Theres been UFO style crafts flying around the area for years, perhaps the government makes these crafts to spy on us? They could be unmanned spy crafts.
The germans could have made crafts such as these back during roswell, perhaps it was a test, maybe they put ape like creatures in the craft to test it and it crashed, our government could have discovered new technology, kept it secret, and hid this technology for years, if its spy technology you cant expect them to ever release or declassify it.