Microsoft does not innovate, name one product they created themselves.
Typical FUD from an anti-MS zealot. Of course you haven't seen many improvements in Longhorn. (there are some already, depending on your point of view). It's a freaking beta, with two years left before becoming gold.
Dont make excuses for them, people like you said this about Windows98, Windows98SE, Windows Millennium edition, and Windows XP.
The only version of Windows which to me was worth the upgrade were Windows95 and Windows2000. So every 5 years Microsofft releases a version of Windows worth using, perhaps 5 years from now Longhorn will be worth using, the problem is people dont want to wait 5 years.
"Tell me, did the Linux 2.5.1 kernel closely resemble what is the latest 2.5.x kernel today?"
No, see heres where you make your Mistake, Windows Longhorn is supposed to be BETTER than WindowsXP, its not just the kernel we are comparing here. Every year Linux advances at the rate Windows advances in 5 years.
5 years ago Linux was still commandline, KDE came around, now we have KDE 3.2 coming out. Look at the difference, you can look down the list and see hundreds maybe thousands of new features.
Look at longhorn, tell me just 1 worthwhile new feature which makes it so much better than XP? Dont give me that crap about Longhorn being brand new, its been in development for 2 years now, I knew about Longhorn way back in 2000-2001, its 2003 now. Considering they had 2 years to work on it in private before releasing developer previews, you can make any excuses you want.
People like you said the same stuff about WindowsXP, WindowsXP turned out to be Windows2000 with a new skin/theme.
And I do not think Microsoft can afford to do this. Linux is developing at a pace far above that of Windows, to actually give Linux a 2 year lead?! Thats suicide.
Redhat 9.1 will be coming out soon, along with new versions of Lindows and perhaps Mandrake, Microsoft will have nothing to respond to the new innovations.
All it will take for Linux to take over the desktop, is to advertise, Longhorn I hear wont be 100 percent compatible with XP just like XP isnt 100 percent compatible with 98, this gives Linux an edge in terms of software compatibility, at least for alittle while.
I'd like to see Lindows, Redhat and others see this news and target the desktop, within the next 2 years we need a few TV ads on the level of those priceline.com ads or the OSX ads, we need to see ads in PCgamer and many of those magazines marketing Linux, and we need to see ads outside on billboards.
Once we can make Linux a mainstream word, then you can convince users to go into a store and use Linux side by side with Windows.
Maybe allow people to tour the country in trucks and let people Demo linux, and then give out linux CDs.
by 2005 Linux will have become a mainstream OS if it continues at this pace. What does Microsoft expect? Users to continue using XP until 2005 and then get longhorn? Have you all seen Longhorn? It doesnt seem to have any improvements.
Microsoft's only chance with longhorn is to pre-install it on every machine, if they lose their monopoly there Linux and even Apple will kick their ass.
This is my opinion, but currently Linux is becoming easy to use. 2 years from now it may be a complete success on the desktop or a complete failure, but considering every piece is in place I dont think Microsoft can afford 2 years.
No, not at all, I think artists should get paid, just not through middlemen, This is why I prefer Kazaa, Napster, etc. Artists can get paid in these systems too, just ask IceT
Finally someone figures it out. With a bigger marketshare you can make your own games, we wont need Windows gaming companies to port their games, with millions of Linux gamers, Linux gaming companies would make Linux only games.
Sorta like how Dreamcast had its exclusive games, and PSX has its exclusive games.
People who buy the music and decide to give me a copy, are giving me the music.
The band doesnt even own their own music and makes 50 cent per CD sold, do you really think they give a damn about CD sales? Record companies steal from Musicians, and fans steal from record companies, these same fans then go to concerts and pay the musician.
How is this unfair? no one needs to buy CDs for musicians to make money.
No one "owns" the information. The people selling it dont own it, the people buying it dont own it, so whats your point? how is sharing information bad? until you can tell me how its bad, why shouldnt it be done? Its just like the arguement that open source is a cancer, until you can prove it, you are no better than microsoft.
So I'm increasing supply and reducing demand, how is this bad for the world? increasing supply of goods and decreasing demand will cause who to get 0 for their lifes work? Musicians dont own the music they make, the record companies do, so i'd prevent rich CEOs from getting richer.
Whats your point? Musicians make most of their money at concerts, again whats your point?
Someone who wants to make money should make money on services, not on the information itself, Redhat is making money, alot of musicians money, and most money in this economy is made through services, even Microsoft knows this, thats why they are builting.net, hailstorm and trying to get people to pay to upgrade.
Subscriptions to services, this works, people will subscribe to recieve internet access, people will not pay per website, it just wont work.
You know why it wont work, and you also know why people wont pay per song.
No, I wouldn't take it. Just like I don't buy lottery tickets. I earn my wealth in the best ways I can. Maybe you should try it. Not like this makes any sense what so ever anyway. This is like arguing that apples are better than peaches because Zebras have spots.
Yes because you are stupid. What kinda person wants to earn their wealth when someone is willing to give it to them? What do you get out of this "earning" feeling that makes you do this? its illogical and you know it. Sure I have to earn everything, but I do not enjoy it, if I could have everything for free i'd take it.
You have no right to complain about music. You don't have money to buy it, so shut up. If you had money to buy it, and didn't, then you could have an opinion. It's not even like you are too young to vote and complaining about an election. You are like a bum, complaining that someone driving a Benz owes you something. Nothing that you say makes sense. You are crying like a little bitch with a skinned knee because you are too proud to get a job. Congratulations on your degree, now why don't you try doing something with your life that means something?
Wrong, I'm not complaining that someone driving a nice car owes me something, I'm saying I'm going to survive period, and I dont have to play by the rules to do it, because the rules dont really matter more than survival, survival matters, the rules? Who gives a fuck about the rules as long as I eat 3 meals a day. You are so obssessed with the rules that you'd turn down a million dollars because you want to earn every dollar. Sorry but thats stupid.
Average person is poor. Uhm, you do realize that poor is a subjective word meaning you make less money than the average person. No fucking wonder you don't have a job, you're illiterate.
No I mean the average person is poor, meaning if you look at the majority of these 6 billion people on the planet, they cannot afford music either. In fact the majority of people in the USA cannot afford music, at least not at the current price, CD sales arent rising because the economy has been falling, not because suddenly people found Kazaa.
Oh, good for you. Get a fucking job and stop bitching. Shit. You are not entitled to a movie, or a few CDs a month. You are entitled to not fucking bitch about your life because you make your life. Not me, not anybody. You! Yes, that's right. It's all your fault. Nobody elses. Don't blame the economy, because I moved to a town I don't know anybody in right in the worst part of it. I moved to a town that had record unemployment rates. I also was only unemployed for less than 3 months after my previous job. So, it's your fault. Take some accountability and responsibility in your life.
Why because its against the rules? Fuck the rules, if someone offers me something for free, well I'm going to take it, Ill take free food, free movies, free music, and whatever else anyone wants to offer me, simply because its given to me, stupid people like you dont celebrate holidays like xmas because you dont believe in sharing, you wont accept gifts because you didnt earn your gift, whatever stupid. Stop telling me to get a job, unless you are going to hire me, telling me what I already know does me no good, next you will tell starving people in Africa they need to eat 3 meals a day. Right its my fault, because to you, the world is not connected, theres no global economy, so I'm assuming you having money is your fault? No its not your fault, your fault is having the skills required to make money, getting the job however is you being lucky, you find a job, you do not earn a job. Accountability and Responsibility only works in a world thats fair, if everyone who worked hard were successful, we wouldnt have people like Bill Gates around who make all the money but do none of the work. Learn about society, its not a meritocracy.
Funny, I can name off about a dozen places aroun dhere that are a
If I offered you 1 million dollars you wouldnt accept it because you didnt earn it? I mean if I give you a million dollars, you would have STOLEN MONEY! OH NO!!
Don't complain you can't afford something you don't need. I can't afford to buy a Ferrari, but I'm not going to yell like a 5 year old kid who thinks they should price them so "EVERYONE" can afford.
If Car companies complained that you didnt buy enough cars, and complained that cars on the black market were taking their car sales, and too many people were car pooling hurting car sales, and public transportation should be outlawed etc, all the time on the news, you'd complain about the prices of cars.
I didnt complain about the price of music until the music industry complained about me not buying music, well if they are going to complain about how I'm not buying music, I get to complain about how they over price music, I mean how can you expect me to buy music when it is out of my price range and then say that I'm destroying the music industry, start passing all these ridiculous laws, I mean look at the whole situation, not just what I say on a msg board and then it begins to make sense.
What the hell type of restaurants do you go for? $50 a meal? I go to some pretty damned nice restaurants and never pay $50 a meal. In fact, every 5-star restaurant I've been to has been in the range of $30 - $50 a meal, and do you know how rare a true 5-star restaurant is? If you can't afford to buy a $1.00 song, I doubt you will ever be able to afford to pay $50 for a meal. Grow the fuck up.
I'm in Boston, theres plenty of 5 star resturants here, I've spent over $100 on a meal for 2 before, $50 for a meal is reasonable
You aren't their target audience anyway, so shut your pie hole. You couldn't even afford a mac to begin with, so why do you care what prices they are? Of course, you probably think Macs should be a buck fifty five, don't you? That way it's fair-rights, so that everyone is equal. News flash, asshole, I work for my life-style and my toys. Maybe you should try it, too.
No you dont work harder, you just have more clout, experience, and are lucky. Most people arent born at the top, most people have to work shitty jobs for years. Communism and Capitalism has nothing to do with it, if you want Capitalism well then the market should decide the price, and theres more people like me than people like you in the market, if there wasnt, we wouldnt have 100 million people using Kazaa and 4-5 million people using MAC. We wouldnt have 90 percent of the world running Windows if people wanted the highest quality most expensive OS and Hardware. People buy whats cheap because the average person is poor, or have a family to take care of, you are a single guy with a good job, you are rare unless you are in San Francisco or Boston and then you arent so rare.
I guess it's easier for you to complain about not working, than it is to get a job doing something you may not necessarily like to pay the bills. Must be nice having parents that can support those decisions, eh?
Its hard as hell to find a job in a depression, The economy has been losing jobs for the last few years, its hard to find a job and even if I somehow manage to find one, I can expect to make about $10 an hour tops, which is pennies. Getting a job gives me just enough money to the movies once per week, or buy a couple CDs a month, I did the calculation, I'd have around $20 a week of money I can actually spend on myself if I get an average part time job, after all my bills thats about all I'd have, and hey I'd even want that, I'm looking for a job right now and if it were easier to find a job than to complain about not having one, maybe everyone in the USA would have a job, its not easy to find a job.
Its hard as hell to find a job, even mc donalds stopped hiring, any job I attempt to get I have to compete with hundreds of other college students along with highschool students.
so yes I should complain, until our economy is good enough that I can find a job without having to dedicate my entire life for a month or two looking for a job.
When you have unlimited supply due to copying, and unlimited demand, theres no need for capitalism.
Why should you buy something when people are willing to give you music for free?
The arguement that a poor college student should not accept free music, is as stupid as saying a hungry person shouldnt accept food, or people with aids shouldnt accept the vaccine without paying for it.
Its such bullshit, sure music is entertainment and I dont really need it, but if people are willing to share it with me why not?
No ones selling it, or making money off of it, so hows it hurting anyone?
Why shouldnt I copy a Lexus if theres a Lexus copying machine in my garage? Stupid people like you make no sense, you tell me its bad to copy stuff and not pay for it when i dont have the money to pay for it to begin with.
Its senseless, thats like punishing africans for making their own anti aids vaccines without paying royalties and then giving the vaccines out to their people for free.
Who gives a fuck? I dont, you shouldnt, why do you care if people share music? Its not like it matters.
One moment people act like piracy is destroying the music industry and so much money is lost, the next minute you call people who refuse to buy music cheap, so you are basically saying if a person cannot afford to buy music they shouldnt listen to it even if other people are willing to give them music, I say you are a fool, if someone is going to give you something you werent going to buy, you are going to accept it even if you'd never spend your money on it, simply because its free.
Whats happening is music is less valueable because its no longer hard to find, now its not restricted, anyone can listen to music, not just people with money.
So when you say steal a car, this is trying to pretend like a car cannot be copied, but in a world where anyone can copy any car they want, why the hell should anyone buy cars?
Think about it, if you have a machine allowing you to copy anything you want, why buy anything? its like the jetsons, you just click and its there so why buy it?
People buy when the value makes it worth paying for, people dont buy because of some kinda weird "life should be difficult" idelogy or some life is supposed to be tough bullshit, people are human and will take whats free, right now music is free, people who didnt have the money to buy music now can listen to music for free, why does it matter if they listen to music for free? Its not hurting anyone.
Their option is listen for free or not listen at all, so it doesnt make a difference to the musician if they listen or not because they wont be paying either way.
Why are the record companies saying Piracy is destroying them, no ones buying music, and trying to sue college students for hundreds of billions of dollars?
And I do buy from indie folks, I dont buy britney spears and crap. But just because I dont buy it doesnt mean I wont listen to it if someone offers to give me a copy of the CD. What kinda idiot or liar is going to tell me they wont accept a free gift?
Why? Because its free you cant accept it? Who cares?
"# previously you said a restaurant meal was $50 - where the hell are you eating poor college student??? # you suggest that you're willing to spend $10 on a movie, but not $15 on a CD - um, that's like 2-3 hours of entertainment for $10 vs a virtually lifetime length interval of musical entertainment for the CD; if you're _so_ poor why don't you go steal your movies with your music # what DVDs are you buying for $40?? heard of renting?"
How do you assume all this bullshit?
A lifetime of entertainment? hahahaha.
DVDs cost $40, we arent talking about renting, maybe if they let poor people like me rent music we'd pay for it.
Life is tough - get a job, make some money and shut up. You'd probably have a lot more money and free time if you didn't spend your life eating $50 restuarant meals and searching Kazaa for songs.
Read what I said, I dont have $50 to go to resturants, and I dont have $20 for a CD.
I buy based on price. You want me to get a job? Hire me, you seem to be a CEO who never loses their job, so give me a job.
Hey everything should be priced based on the market. Record companies price fix CDs, thats why they cost so much.
Look I'm willing to pay $10 to go see a movie, I'm not willing to spend $15 on a CD.
The value of something should be based on the market, Record companies love to try to market to young college students with the least amount of money instead of older guys like you, then they complain about us and sue us when we cannot afford their $20 CDs, or their $40 DVDs, I mean damn.
Yes I can afford to buy a CD every once and a while, but if you honestly think I'm going to turn someone down when they offer to let me watch a movie for free with them just because I didnt pay for the rights to watch the DVD, or if you think I'm not going to listen to music someone shares with me, you are crazy.
I'm going to take whatever I can get, thats what people do, but I'd pay if it were in my price range, considering its not, its Kazaa, or listen to one CD a year.
And I dont usually listen to popular music anyway so I honestly dont care what the big record companies do, most of the music I listen to are from indie companies, they sometimes dont even have stuff on CD, just records.
If the CDs are properly priced, I'd buy them, if not, well then too bad for them, I buy what I can afford and I listen to the rest.
Says who? IF I cannot buy music, but someone lets me listen to it why shouldnt I? Thats likee saying a person who cannot buy food shouldnt accept someone elses.
Stealing is when someone loses something. Read a dictionary.
No one loses anything when I listen to music I couldnt afford to buy in the first place.
I do make music, and no people dont need to pay $15 for my CDs,
Instead they could pay $1 for each CD and I'd make more money than I'd make selling twice as many for $15 as long as I dont have to give record companies their $14.50 cut. You act likke musicians make big money selling CDs, they make 50 cent per CD.
50 cent per song if the musician got only 25 cent of that 50 cent is more than they'd make selling 15 songs on a full $16 CD.
The goal of a musician is to make fans, and then sell stuff like tshirts and hats, and go on tour, thats where musicians make real money, they only make about 50 cents per CD sold, they dont care about the price of CDs.
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First I'm not anti Microsoft, I'm pro Innovation.
Microsoft does not innovate, name one product they created themselves.
Typical FUD from an anti-MS zealot. Of course you haven't seen many improvements in Longhorn. (there are some already, depending on your point of view). It's a freaking beta, with two years left before becoming gold.
Dont make excuses for them, people like you said this about Windows98, Windows98SE, Windows Millennium edition, and Windows XP.
The only version of Windows which to me was worth the upgrade were Windows95 and Windows2000. So every 5 years Microsofft releases a version of Windows worth using, perhaps 5 years from now Longhorn will be worth using, the problem is people dont want to wait 5 years.
"Tell me, did the Linux 2.5.1 kernel closely resemble what is the latest 2.5.x kernel today?"
No, see heres where you make your Mistake, Windows Longhorn is supposed to be BETTER than WindowsXP, its not just the kernel we are comparing here. Every year Linux advances at the rate Windows advances in 5 years.
5 years ago Linux was still commandline, KDE came around, now we have KDE 3.2 coming out. Look at the difference, you can look down the list and see hundreds maybe thousands of new features.
Look at longhorn, tell me just 1 worthwhile new feature which makes it so much better than XP? Dont give me that crap about Longhorn being brand new, its been in development for 2 years now, I knew about Longhorn way back in 2000-2001, its 2003 now. Considering they had 2 years to work on it in private before releasing developer previews, you can make any excuses you want.
People like you said the same stuff about WindowsXP, WindowsXP turned out to be Windows2000 with a new skin/theme.
And I do not think Microsoft can afford to do this. Linux is developing at a pace far above that of Windows, to actually give Linux a 2 year lead?! Thats suicide.
Redhat 9.1 will be coming out soon, along with new versions of Lindows and perhaps Mandrake, Microsoft will have nothing to respond to the new innovations.
All it will take for Linux to take over the desktop, is to advertise, Longhorn I hear wont be 100 percent compatible with XP just like XP isnt 100 percent compatible with 98, this gives Linux an edge in terms of software compatibility, at least for alittle while.
I'd like to see Lindows, Redhat and others see this news and target the desktop, within the next 2 years we need a few TV ads on the level of those priceline.com ads or the OSX ads, we need to see ads in PCgamer and many of those magazines marketing Linux, and we need to see ads outside on billboards.
Once we can make Linux a mainstream word, then you can convince users to go into a store and use Linux side by side with Windows.
Maybe allow people to tour the country in trucks and let people Demo linux, and then give out linux CDs.
by 2005 Linux will have become a mainstream OS if it continues at this pace. What does Microsoft expect? Users to continue using XP until 2005 and then get longhorn? Have you all seen Longhorn? It doesnt seem to have any improvements.
Microsoft's only chance with longhorn is to pre-install it on every machine, if they lose their monopoly there Linux and even Apple will kick their ass.
This is my opinion, but currently Linux is becoming easy to use. 2 years from now it may be a complete success on the desktop or a complete failure, but considering every piece is in place I dont think Microsoft can afford 2 years.
No, not at all, I think artists should get paid, just not through middlemen, This is why I prefer Kazaa, Napster, etc. Artists can get paid in these systems too, just ask IceT
Sorry but to those of you who dont support Napster because it robs Musicians, how the hell can you support Apple? Its the same fcking thinng.
The Musicians are not the content owners. The Record Company are the content owners.
Musicians get robbed either way, so why not rob the RIAA.
Before the internet my childhood was video games and TV so Im glad to have discovered it.
They arent illegal but they should be.
Copyright was put in place to promote progress, not to help companies keep their monopolies and act as a corperate welfare system.
Its pointless to fight technology and progress. It slows and stops innovation and for what? I thought the whole point is to promote progress?
People ignore the fact that bigger userbase=better sales.
As Linux userbase grows, new Linux gaming companies will form, to make native Linux games to sell to the new Linux userbase.
Finally someone figures it out. With a bigger marketshare you can make your own games, we wont need Windows gaming companies to port their games, with millions of Linux gamers, Linux gaming companies would make Linux only games.
Sorta like how Dreamcast had its exclusive games, and PSX has its exclusive games.
Linux users eventually begin to match or even outnumber windows users worldwide?
China, India, Africa. They can make games too.
People who buy the music and decide to give me a copy, are giving me the music.
The band doesnt even own their own music and makes 50 cent per CD sold, do you really think they give a damn about CD sales? Record companies steal from Musicians, and fans steal from record companies, these same fans then go to concerts and pay the musician.
How is this unfair? no one needs to buy CDs for musicians to make money.
No one "owns" the information. The people selling it dont own it, the people buying it dont own it, so whats your point? how is sharing information bad? until you can tell me how its bad, why shouldnt it be done? Its just like the arguement that open source is a cancer, until you can prove it, you are no better than microsoft.
So I'm increasing supply and reducing demand, how is this bad for the world? increasing supply of goods and decreasing demand will cause who to get 0 for their lifes work? Musicians dont own the music they make, the record companies do, so i'd prevent rich CEOs from getting richer.
Whats your point? Musicians make most of their money at concerts, again whats your point?
Someone who wants to make money should make money on services, not on the information itself, Redhat is making money, alot of musicians money, and most money in this economy is made through services, even Microsoft knows this, thats why they are builting
Subscriptions to services, this works, people will subscribe to recieve internet access, people will not pay per website, it just wont work.
You know why it wont work, and you also know why people wont pay per song.
No, I wouldn't take it. Just like I don't buy lottery tickets. I earn my wealth in the best ways I can. Maybe you should try it. Not like this makes any sense what so ever anyway. This is like arguing that apples are better than peaches because Zebras have spots.
Yes because you are stupid. What kinda person wants to earn their wealth when someone is willing to give it to them? What do you get out of this "earning" feeling that makes you do this? its illogical and you know it. Sure I have to earn everything, but I do not enjoy it, if I could have everything for free i'd take it.
You have no right to complain about music. You don't have money to buy it, so shut up. If you had money to buy it, and didn't, then you could have an opinion. It's not even like you are too young to vote and complaining about an election. You are like a bum, complaining that someone driving a Benz owes you something. Nothing that you say makes sense. You are crying like a little bitch with a skinned knee because you are too proud to get a job. Congratulations on your degree, now why don't you try doing something with your life that means something?
Wrong, I'm not complaining that someone driving a nice car owes me something, I'm saying I'm going to survive period, and I dont have to play by the rules to do it, because the rules dont really matter more than survival, survival matters, the rules? Who gives a fuck about the rules as long as I eat 3 meals a day. You are so obssessed with the rules that you'd turn down a million dollars because you want to earn every dollar. Sorry but thats stupid.
Average person is poor. Uhm, you do realize that poor is a subjective word meaning you make less money than the average person. No fucking wonder you don't have a job, you're illiterate.
No I mean the average person is poor, meaning if you look at the majority of these 6 billion people on the planet, they cannot afford music either. In fact the majority of people in the USA cannot afford music, at least not at the current price, CD sales arent rising because the economy has been falling, not because suddenly people found Kazaa.
Oh, good for you. Get a fucking job and stop bitching. Shit. You are not entitled to a movie, or a few CDs a month. You are entitled to not fucking bitch about your life because you make your life. Not me, not anybody. You! Yes, that's right. It's all your fault. Nobody elses. Don't blame the economy, because I moved to a town I don't know anybody in right in the worst part of it. I moved to a town that had record unemployment rates. I also was only unemployed for less than 3 months after my previous job. So, it's your fault. Take some accountability and responsibility in your life.
Why because its against the rules? Fuck the rules, if someone offers me something for free, well I'm going to take it, Ill take free food, free movies, free music, and whatever else anyone wants to offer me, simply because its given to me, stupid people like you dont celebrate holidays like xmas because you dont believe in sharing, you wont accept gifts because you didnt earn your gift, whatever stupid. Stop telling me to get a job, unless you are going to hire me, telling me what I already know does me no good, next you will tell starving people in Africa they need to eat 3 meals a day. Right its my fault, because to you, the world is not connected, theres no global economy, so I'm assuming you having money is your fault? No its not your fault, your fault is having the skills required to make money, getting the job however is you being lucky, you find a job, you do not earn a job. Accountability and Responsibility only works in a world thats fair, if everyone who worked hard were successful, we wouldnt have people like Bill Gates around who make all the money but do none of the work. Learn about society, its not a meritocracy.
Funny, I can name off about a dozen places aroun dhere that are a
If I offered you 1 million dollars you wouldnt accept it because you didnt earn it? I mean if I give you a million dollars, you would have STOLEN MONEY! OH NO!!
Don't complain you can't afford something you don't need. I can't afford to buy a Ferrari, but I'm not going to yell like a 5 year old kid who thinks they should price them so "EVERYONE" can afford.
If Car companies complained that you didnt buy enough cars, and complained that cars on the black market were taking their car sales, and too many people were car pooling hurting car sales, and public transportation should be outlawed etc, all the time on the news, you'd complain about the prices of cars.
I didnt complain about the price of music until the music industry complained about me not buying music, well if they are going to complain about how I'm not buying music, I get to complain about how they over price music, I mean how can you expect me to buy music when it is out of my price range and then say that I'm destroying the music industry, start passing all these ridiculous laws, I mean look at the whole situation, not just what I say on a msg board and then it begins to make sense.
What the hell type of restaurants do you go for? $50 a meal? I go to some pretty damned nice restaurants and never pay $50 a meal. In fact, every 5-star restaurant I've been to has been in the range of $30 - $50 a meal, and do you know how rare a true 5-star restaurant is? If you can't afford to buy a $1.00 song, I doubt you will ever be able to afford to pay $50 for a meal. Grow the fuck up.
I'm in Boston, theres plenty of 5 star resturants here, I've spent over $100 on a meal for 2 before, $50 for a meal is reasonable
You aren't their target audience anyway, so shut your pie hole. You couldn't even afford a mac to begin with, so why do you care what prices they are? Of course, you probably think Macs should be a buck fifty five, don't you? That way it's fair-rights, so that everyone is equal. News flash, asshole, I work for my life-style and my toys. Maybe you should try it, too.
No you dont work harder, you just have more clout, experience, and are lucky. Most people arent born at the top, most people have to work shitty jobs for years. Communism and Capitalism has nothing to do with it, if you want Capitalism well then the market should decide the price, and theres more people like me than people like you in the market, if there wasnt, we wouldnt have 100 million people using Kazaa and 4-5 million people using MAC. We wouldnt have 90 percent of the world running Windows if people wanted the highest quality most expensive OS and Hardware. People buy whats cheap because the average person is poor, or have a family to take care of, you are a single guy with a good job, you are rare unless you are in San Francisco or Boston and then you arent so rare.
I guess it's easier for you to complain about not working, than it is to get a job doing something you may not necessarily like to pay the bills. Must be nice having parents that can support those decisions, eh?
Its hard as hell to find a job in a depression, The economy has been losing jobs for the last few years, its hard to find a job and even if I somehow manage to find one, I can expect to make about $10 an hour tops, which is pennies. Getting a job gives me just enough money to the movies once per week, or buy a couple CDs a month, I did the calculation, I'd have around $20 a week of money I can actually spend on myself if I get an average part time job, after all my bills thats about all I'd have, and hey I'd even want that, I'm looking for a job right now and if it were easier to find a job than to complain about not having one, maybe everyone in the USA would have a job, its not easy to find a job.
Its hard as hell to find a job, even mc donalds stopped hiring, any job I attempt to get I have to compete with hundreds of other college students along with highschool students.
so yes I should complain, until our economy is good enough that I can find a job without having to dedicate my entire life for a month or two looking for a job.
If I offered you 1 million dollars you wouldnt accept it because you didnt earn it?
When you have unlimited supply due to copying, and unlimited demand, theres no need for capitalism.
Why should you buy something when people are willing to give you music for free?
The arguement that a poor college student should not accept free music, is as stupid as saying a hungry person shouldnt accept food, or people with aids shouldnt accept the vaccine without paying for it.
Its such bullshit, sure music is entertainment and I dont really need it, but if people are willing to share it with me why not?
No ones selling it, or making money off of it, so hows it hurting anyone?
Why shouldnt I copy a Lexus if theres a Lexus copying machine in my garage? Stupid people like you make no sense, you tell me its bad to copy stuff and not pay for it when i dont have the money to pay for it to begin with.
Its senseless, thats like punishing africans for making their own anti aids vaccines without paying royalties and then giving the vaccines out to their people for free.
Who gives a fuck? I dont, you shouldnt, why do you care if people share music? Its not like it matters.
One moment people act like piracy is destroying the music industry and so much money is lost, the next minute you call people who refuse to buy music cheap, so you are basically saying if a person cannot afford to buy music they shouldnt listen to it even if other people are willing to give them music, I say you are a fool, if someone is going to give you something you werent going to buy, you are going to accept it even if you'd never spend your money on it, simply because its free.
Whats happening is music is less valueable because its no longer hard to find, now its not restricted, anyone can listen to music, not just people with money.
So when you say steal a car, this is trying to pretend like a car cannot be copied, but in a world where anyone can copy any car they want, why the hell should anyone buy cars?
Think about it, if you have a machine allowing you to copy anything you want, why buy anything? its like the jetsons, you just click and its there so why buy it?
People buy when the value makes it worth paying for, people dont buy because of some kinda weird "life should be difficult" idelogy or some life is supposed to be tough bullshit, people are human and will take whats free, right now music is free, people who didnt have the money to buy music now can listen to music for free, why does it matter if they listen to music for free? Its not hurting anyone.
Their option is listen for free or not listen at all, so it doesnt make a difference to the musician if they listen or not because they wont be paying either way.
Why are the record companies saying Piracy is destroying them, no ones buying music, and trying to sue college students for hundreds of billions of dollars?
And I do buy from indie folks, I dont buy britney spears and crap. But just because I dont buy it doesnt mean I wont listen to it if someone offers to give me a copy of the CD. What kinda idiot or liar is going to tell me they wont accept a free gift?
Why? Because its free you cant accept it? Who cares?
"# previously you said a restaurant meal was $50 - where the hell are you eating poor college student???
# you suggest that you're willing to spend $10 on a movie, but not $15 on a CD - um, that's like 2-3 hours of entertainment for $10 vs a virtually lifetime length interval of musical entertainment for the CD; if you're _so_ poor why don't you go steal your movies with your music
# what DVDs are you buying for $40?? heard of renting?"
How do you assume all this bullshit?
A lifetime of entertainment? hahahaha.
DVDs cost $40, we arent talking about renting, maybe if they let poor people like me rent music we'd pay for it.
Life is tough - get a job, make some money and shut up. You'd probably have a lot more money and free time if you didn't spend your life eating $50 restuarant meals and searching Kazaa for songs.
Read what I said, I dont have $50 to go to resturants, and I dont have $20 for a CD.
I buy based on price. You want me to get a job? Hire me, you seem to be a CEO who never loses their job, so give me a job.
Hey everything should be priced based on the market. Record companies price fix CDs, thats why they cost so much.
Look I'm willing to pay $10 to go see a movie, I'm not willing to spend $15 on a CD.
The value of something should be based on the market, Record companies love to try to market to young college students with the least amount of money instead of older guys like you, then they complain about us and sue us when we cannot afford their $20 CDs, or their $40 DVDs, I mean damn.
Yes I can afford to buy a CD every once and a while, but if you honestly think I'm going to turn someone down when they offer to let me watch a movie for free with them just because I didnt pay for the rights to watch the DVD, or if you think I'm not going to listen to music someone shares with me, you are crazy.
I'm going to take whatever I can get, thats what people do, but I'd pay if it were in my price range, considering its not, its Kazaa, or listen to one CD a year.
And I dont usually listen to popular music anyway so I honestly dont care what the big record companies do, most of the music I listen to are from indie companies, they sometimes dont even have stuff on CD, just records.
If the CDs are properly priced, I'd buy them, if not, well then too bad for them, I buy what I can afford and I listen to the rest.
Says who? IF I cannot buy music, but someone lets me listen to it why shouldnt I? Thats likee saying a person who cannot buy food shouldnt accept someone elses.
Stealing is when someone loses something. Read a dictionary.
No one loses anything when I listen to music I couldnt afford to buy in the first place.
I do make music, and no people dont need to pay $15 for my CDs,
Instead they could pay $1 for each CD and I'd make more money than I'd make selling twice as many for $15 as long as I dont have to give record companies their $14.50 cut. You act likke musicians make big money selling CDs, they make 50 cent per CD.
50 cent per song if the musician got only 25 cent of that 50 cent is more than they'd make selling 15 songs on a full $16 CD.
The goal of a musician is to make fans, and then sell stuff like tshirts and hats, and go on tour, thats where musicians make real money, they only make about 50 cents per CD sold, they dont care about the price of CDs.
You are right I cannot really afford a mac, I think I might need an ibook thouh.
Just because someone has an ibook for school doesnt mean they can afford music.