Its not about porn or music, I want to see hacker sites return. Remember all the hacking sites which people tried to ban, I want to see them come back, I want to see culture return to the internet besides corperate culture.
We need to take advantage of freenet to make lots and lots of websites, we have unlimited storage space, if it becomes fast enough speed wont be a problem, we can put chatrooms in freenet too, this can really work.
We just need to make sites, and not just porn and warez sites, but all kinds of sites, political sites, geek sites, gaming sites, etc.
Freenet is finally becoming mature and stable, this is very very good news.
Now its time for people like us to go to freenet and put linux sites, slashdot type sites, and maybe some hacker/geek culture to freenet.
Freenet shouldnt be just about porn and warez because it will be very easy to outlaw it, what we need to do is fill freenet up with useful content for the masses, maybe put WikiPedia type stuff in freenet.
Its time to make some sites, specifically its time to bring back the hacker/geek culture that was lost, I'd like to see some hacker sites return, some chatrooms, etc etc
"You make subjective statements based on your beliefs with no back up evidence, "John J Macionis Sociology says that its a western viewpoint, its safe to take what he says over you.
The only people that do not do this are slaves, end of story.
Make up your mind.Everyone does or everyone doesnt, there is no inbetween, we are free or we arent.
people who are following their own needs wants or desires
We all are slaves to responsibility and society, to our jobs, to our families, and to our parents. Slaves can always choose to do whatever they want, slaves can turn on their masters, rebel, and be punished, just like you can be fired from your job, put in jail, or disowned by your family and friends.
We affect other people by the choice to do it alone, this is the only truth that empiric evidence supports, everything else is at this point subjective opinion. No because sometimes you dont have a choice. IF I attack you with a knife and I'm trying to kill you, I've removed your choice, your only option is to defend yourself or you'll cease to exist meaning you'll never have another choice again, so theres only one choice here, defend yourself from my attack.
People influence your choices, we are all connected.
You have a very American point of view which expects everyone to be very individualistic and selfish in their thinking, but not everyone believes in "self"
There is really no such thing as a self, we all are connected as one living thing, what I do effects everyone else, everyone is me and I am everyone because we are all connected as one.
So you saying I do something because of the effect it has on me, I may not even live to see the effects of everything I do, so why should I do anything which I will not live to see the rewards of?
If i dedicate my life to my work I wont live to see the results of the work I do, einstien did this, but he didnt live to see the results, why did he do it? because he felt a need? or because he wanted to change the world?
Individual need has nothing to do with the needs of the world, sometimes people do things because the world needs it, not because they as an individual need it.
Bin Laden believes that his actions are changing the world, he believes the world needs to be changed, maybe hes right, but he wont live to see the changes even if they do change.
Jesus christ, he believed the world needed to be changed, he never lived to see the change.
Martin Luther King Jf, Ghandi, etc believed in changing the world but never lived to see it.
You see, theres western thought and eastern thought, western thinkers believe in individuality and the self being seperate intity, they believe god is a seperate force, they dont understand the concept of everything being one force so they cannot easily understand reincarnation, they cannot easily understand that there is really no individuality, that everything you do effects everyone else,
So when you are deciding if you should steal and rob people, or not, or at least when I'm deciding this (I'm poor and I'd benefit greatly by robbing some rich person) I decide against it not because I'm afraid of prison (I'm poor), I decide against it not because I give a damn about some stranger whos rich, the reason I decide against it is because of the theory of cause and effect.
My actions could totally ruin a persons life, this man may have children, it may effect him on a mental and not physical level, he may in turn do something to someone else which down the line leads to a domino effect causing great damage to hundreds of people, all because I robbed some rich guy.
Perhaps robbing this rich guy simply puts him in a bad mood, suddenly he fires alot of people, and this triggers a set of events which leads to one of the fired few to come to work and shoot up the office, this would be my fault because I'd be directly responsible for causing the trigger of events which lead to that.
Theres no such thing as an individual, a selfish action is simply an action which you do from your own motivation, but my motivation does not come from me, it comes from enviornment, it comes from others.
I'm not motivated to do anything but survive, every other motivation comes from the fact that I know we arent seperate and so I carefully plan every action I do, The actions I do I hope trigger a set of events which will help humanity instead of damange it, I will never know what happens or what the effects of what I do will have on humanity, so whatever I'm doing cannot be for selfish reasons if I dont even know what I'm doing.
I wont be alive to see the results so hows it scratching an inch?
I dont feel a "need" to do it just because I choose to do something. Not everything I do is something I feel like doing. I do chores because people make me do it, not because I NEED to or feel like doing it, I dont want to do that.
Some people feel some kinda need to go have sex or do drugs.
Yeah but they dont need to pay for them so why not go rob people, i mean they need the drugs, they need the money, so just take it right? Oh wait,because not everyone agrees that its right to steal and rob people.
Theres alot of things I need, alot of things I feel, my decisions have nothing to do with what I feel or need, they are logical decisions.
Please tell me how a person who dies for this country or dies to protect someone else feels a need to die? Of course they dont want to die, they dont NEED or WANT to do this, they believe the cause is more valueable than their life so they die for it.
Bin Laden blowing himself up is a selfless act, bin laden gets nothing from this, yeah he believes in an afterlife but he gets nothing from this. Until you can prove people feel this so called "need" to do everything they choose to do, you cannot prove everything anyone does is what they feel like doing.
I'm sure alot of people dont feel like going to work every single day or school every morning.
Not really, I dont get anything out of helping them,I help them because its my responsibility to help them.
You just dont get it. Say you had a child, you may not live to see this child go to college, you most likely wont outlive your own child, so if you think selfishly like you do, you'll think "well why should I raise this child, I wont be around to see this kid go to college, who cares I'm going to do what I want"
or you might think something like "Why should I get life insurence, I wont be alive to enjoy it! Its not going to benefit me, why should I leave anything to my children?"
This is Selfish.
Selfless is when you do something without expecting anything in return. When I help my friend with something, I dont do it because I feel some kinda "need" to do it, I dont dont feel anything, heres why I do it.
Some peoples purpose in life, is to pleasure themselves and do whatever they want, this is fine
Currently I'm not in college because I want to go, I'm in there so I can support a family if I ever have one of my own.
The only purpose I have in life is self improvement, I consider my friends and family (my circle) to be one with me. I love them like I love myself, while I do not get anything out of improving their lives, they get something out of it, if I died before seeing the results of my actions it doesnt matter, I'm not doing it for me, I'm doing it for them.
I guess some people cannot understand the fact that not everything people do in life is selfish reasons, I suppose you could claim its for selfish reasons if you base it on the fact I consider them part of myself, but they are seperate physical beings with seperate thoughts and ideas, I'm connected to them yes so I want them to be the best they can be as I want the same for myself.
That may not make sense to you, you have the selfish thought process, think outside the box, understand that not everything you do in life will matter in this lifetime and some people do donate themselves to causes.
Military people who die for this country, parents who raise children even though they know they have cancer and wont get to see them grow up, alot of situations.
You act like being lazy is a good thing or a good quality. Lazy = Selfish, you do whatever you want when you want to do it, but you arent thinking about the future or being critical.
Sure its ok to be lazy sometimes, but if you have a goal to accomplish you should put your best effort into it period.
If you get all As then you can be lazy. Not everyone is thinking about "self" some people want to have families, some people want to do more than just survive, some people actually want to change the world.
I'm in boston and they all seem to make you do some work, of course its not hard work, but you have to do and pass the tests with over a 90 to get a 4.0 GPA.
So yeah you should aim to pass every test and assignment with over a 90,sometimes teachers dont count the first test but the rest count.
"Who cares what people think of you when you're dead, you're dead. It doesn't *matter*, not to you, being dead and all nothing matters to you, whether Cindy cried cause you were a nice person or whether noone even noticed." Some people are selfish and some are selfless. Somethings I do in life I may not live to see the result of, but the only real purpose I have in life is to make the lives of the people who are in my circle better.
I have no motivation to "control" or to "dominate", I am not "pleasure" oriented, sure I like to have fun but as I've grown older I've understood that what matters most in life is not how much "pleasure" you get, what really matters in the long term is having people around you who care about you, who give a shit about you, and who you care about.
Its the same arguement which can be used in say, should you just go out and have sex, never having a serious relationship? Sure you'd get pleasure in the short term, and its true you might die tomorrow, but what matters more? so you have a few hours of pleasure, if you do live a long life, when you get older you will understand your life was an absolute waste because all you did in life was pleasure yourself, every act you did gave you some sorta pleasure or good feeling, every good thing you did wasnt done out of selflessness it was done to make you feel better,
you can focus on yourself for ever but some people begin to understand that self is only part of the whole. The whole would be your friends, your family, the people you love, they are a part of you as well so its wise to do things for them even if it doesnt benefit you in any way to do it.
When you have kids hopefully you will dedicate a portion of your life to raise them properly, of course this doesnt benefit you because you might not live to see them grow up, but the reason for doing stuff like this is because you love them, not because it benefits you or makes you feel good.
Thus, the only reason to pursue popularity is if you value the opinions of other people in life, that's subjective, but for the record, I don't give a fuck. The I dont give a fuck attitude is the typical hard/numb/cold attitude that I talk about. This is exactly what I've decided not to be, the only reason I'm not like that is because I have people to give a fuck about.
" That's why I had to put in that paragraph about university being the ultimate reality check for geek megalomania. It wasn't until partway through that particular wringer that I truly "got it", in that I figured out it was also OK not to have a 4.0 GPA, so long as I was learning something and making progress towards the goal of a degree in a field you enjoyed - and to stop beating myself up every time I got a 3.5."
Its not OKAY to not have a 4.0 GPA, you should always put 100 percent effort into everything you do, now if you did your absolute best and you have a 3.5 GPA, you did good.
If you reduce yourself to accepting low grades you are going to make yourself lazy. With every test you take you should aim for 100, with every book you read you should try to gather as much info as possible, reading beyond what is required, do extra research on your own using the internet, write papers that are of perfect quality, not just the quality required to pass the class.
This is important because what matters in the real world is perfection, not hard work.
Of course no one does perfect work, but the closer your work is to perfect the better the quality.
I'm not saying I had a guide or a mentor growing up, I didnt, so I fell into that trap too, it wasnt cool to be smart.
Until I turned about 17 or 18, and had bills to pay, when I finally got a job I then began to understand how the world actually works, thats when I began to take school seriously, although I blame my parents for not making me understand this sooner.
It seems everybody says that in high school. But as much as the need to talk themselves out of caring what others think, deep down they always do. It's possible your family support was much greater than hers. All too often, the parents again, it is not too important that the girl gets educated properly, hey she's just going to marry someone who is.
While I never cared what people thought of me, I wanted to be liked, because I thought it was what I was supposed to do, everyone telling me I need to make friends including my family, forced me into this thought process that I need to be "cool"
Good for you, to think that way in high school. I myself tried, but I think I was 25 before I actually got it.. On a side note, I raised a daughter, and watched her tank through high school, even though I knew better. But I spent a lot of time reminding her of her strengths, and that she would leave all of these so-called friends in the dust. It does help - the family support. She is all A's now, and very career driven. She is indeed, leaving her friends in the dust.
This is right, but as a parent I think its the parents responsibility to explain to a child how the world works at a young age, perhaps give that child little jobs and make then earn their allowance instead of just giving it to them, teach them to think for themselves, and lastly, dont pressure them to make friends or be overly social, 90 percent of the people they will meet in school will be a bad influence. Make sure they focus on their work and explain to them cause and effect.
When they say they want to be a doctor, explain to them what they have to do to be a doctor, dont just tell them to stay in school just because they are supposed to, tell them exactly and bluntly, "if you want to be a doctor you have to be educated"
explain to them in their final year of middle school that they should dedicate the next few years to accomplishing their goal of being a doctor, and perhaps give up their social life for a few years and put their heads into the books, get all As, give them tips on studying, such as explaining to them how they dont have to be limited by the class, and how they can read ahead on their own, explain to them tests arent a measure of intelligence and to gather as much knowledge as possible regardless of their test scores, and they should do just fine.
If they dont get a 1500 on their SATs, so what, as long as they have alot of knowledge and study skills by the time they get to college they will be in the habit of reading the required chapters of a book and to continue on reading extra, instead of just doing enough to get by, if you can get a student or child to put 100 percent into what they are doing success is almost guarenteed.
I'm from the USA and university is expensive as hell, our government doesnt pay shit unless you dont have a dime and your family doesnt have a dime (like in my case) and even then you have to pay most of the loans back.
If you arent mature you arent intelligent. I mean really.
The "growing out of it" statement assumes everyone goes through phases of being dumb, I was NEVER a dumb person and I say dumb not immature because people die over this stuff.
People die because they are STUPID, I mean really intelligence ok you can call it maturity, but it doesnt matter, ultimately theres no reason for an intelligent person to somehow be limited and it seems most of these so called intelligent people NEVER learn.
They seem to never reach my moral or emotional level, I mean really these so called intelligent people who has short tempers and no self control so they get into fights, how intelligent is that? You know the results of your actions before you do them but you cant control yourr emotions? Thats lack of intelligence, lack of self understanding and self control, this is due to the fact that they never focus on self improvement (ignorance).
If a person cannot think for themselves, cannot stay out of trouble, cannot stop drinking and refuses to learn morality, how am I supposed to make excuses for them? I did it, so either I 'm a genius or they are stupid, which is it?
Usually the smarter ones mature and grow out of it. The ones that don't? Well..
And by college, hell by age 18 a person should be at that state where they have a general understanding of cause and effect, right and wrong, and judgement, if you dont have this you have absolutely nothing, all the booksmarts in the world wont earn my respect.
If you dont have morals, friendships with me is impossible, if you dont have good judgement I dont even want to be around you, and if you dont understand cause and effect you are just too ignorant to speak to me.
I'm not an elitist, but I dont make excuses for people considering most of these kids in college got a better start than I did, had both parents around raising them, went to good schools, had all these people teaching them and they STILL dont know shit?
Well theres no excuse for this, they are just dumb, especially if a person who educated himself and had little to no guidance can somehow have learned better judgement.
seems like you've never been popular, the more popular you become, the more jealous people get of you, hey I must be too popular here on slashdot, considering guys like you get jealous of me and make posts like these.
And you prove my point in your former post AntiHanzoSan
well my list of values are required for friendship.
Truth and Honesty seem the same thing, and honor and dignity but I just focus on whats required for longterm relationships of any kind, and create values which allow them to be healthy.
Well, I dont know if i agree that you get stronger by being hurt. I think it damages you, and weakens you while making you appear stronger. By being numb it weakens you in other ways which you wont understand until you grow older, by numb i'm saying emotionally numb.
And I still think popularity has a point - it lets you meet new people - lots of new people! This is one of my favourite things. Some of these people you'll never see again, and some of them will go on to form lasting relationships or friendships with you. Both are good.
But not quality people. The people I like to meet arent the type of people who would notice a popular person. The shy quiet types, the nerds, or the really creative and intelligent types usually avoid crowds.
You see, I dont really want to draw attention of the social engineering type, the political types, the assholes, those types are the exact people I try to avoid and by being popular in the wrong way or spot it can cause ignorance to surround you instead of intelligence.
And in answer to your question, I would count about 15-20 of my regular associates as close friends - these are the people that would take me into their homes if I was out of a job, help me move house, come and take care of me if I was sick, etc. Many of them have had to do these things in the past. It is possible to form real friendships with lots of people, and I think it's a desireable thing.:-)
Have all 20 done this before? how do you know? Theres no way they can all be proven so you must be taking their word for it. Thats not safe.
I apologise for coming across so confrontationally, but this is a very sensitive issue for me - I have friends ( yes, real friends:-) that, for example, only know six or seven people well in my entire city. These people are lonely, and that's sad. And they feel like they can't reach out and make more friends, because they have no confidence, or don't know how. This is even sadder.
I want quality friends, not quantity. Its very very difficult to meet people who are up to my standards in terms of loyalty, and morality.
Most people I meet have some major problem, maybe they beat the shit out of women, they steal from people, they are a liar, they constantly talk shit behind peoples backs or they just are fake.
The qualities I want or look for, matter in this order, they must be loyal, they must be honest most of the time, they must generally not do any mental or physical harm to anyone else.
But people who are assholes who harm others deliberately, these types are not capable of being friends with me. I dont like sneaky people or questionable people, if i have any doubts I just move on.
Many ignorant people. Sure some people at university are intelligent, but 60 percent I'd say are ignorant and just rich, gifted, or other.
But rarely have I met people who I view as both intelligent inside and outside the classroom. You will not impress me because you can get a perfect score on a test, so you have a photographic memory, if you cannot use that photographic memory in the real world you are stupid.
I see most people in college spending all their time partying and acting immature, I'm not saying theres anything wrong with this but just watch how people act, not how they act in class but in real life. Look at how they treat their relationships with the opposite sex, most people in college dont seem to take relationships seriously, cheat on each other, and do other stupid shit, intelligent? But not intelligent enough to ask older generations how to properly handle a relationship? Not intelligent enough to know the difference between love & lust? Not intelligent enough to get along with a roomate?
These people act intelligent in the classroom only proving they arent really all that intelligent if they cant take their intelligence and properly use it. What about moral intelligence? What about knowing right from wrong, having good judgement, knowing how not to make stupid mistakes like drink yourself to death like some of these dumbass kids do, or stupid women who let men drug their drinks and get raped.
I mean really if you are in college you should be intelligent enough to avoid these things and situations, you may not avoid all situations but 90 percent of the time the situation you are in are the situations you allow yourself to be put into.
I know I'm ahead of the game in terms of social intelligence, and moral intelligence considering I dont have to fuck up a thousand times to learn not to do something, I know better because I watch other people fuck up and then I learn from them.
Every action I do, I know the effects of this action, and possible reactions in which the enviornment might have on these actions.
Theres alot more to being intelligent than just getting good grades, and just because you can talk to girls and you think you know what you are doing doesnt mean you are smart enough to avoid being seduced and taken advantage of by a woman, or a woman getting sexually abused by a man.
When I was popular, I had people wanting to kick my ass, people who were jealous of me and I didnt even know who they are, I had rumors being spread about me for no reason, I had people talking behind my back constantly. Whats the point of all this political bullshit?
The more popular you become the harder it is to determine who your friends are.
There is no correspondence between intelligence and social ineptitude. I've known as many popular smart people as I've known unpopular smart people. Infact, most of the unpopular smart people I knew scored lower on their SAT than the popular. I realize that this is a rough estimate and that SAT scores do not directly relate to intelligence; perhaps it was just coincidence, but still an interesting statistic, none the less.
I judge intelligence not just by how well you do on tests in school, but how you live your life. If you are getting into trouble, and you are doing stupid things outside the classroom I dont give a damn if you get all As, you are stupid. IF you are doing good in life, if you dont get all As so what? You make up for it by how you live.
Alot of smart people are smart but dont know how to be social, thats because they focused too much on academics, then you have people who dont focus on academics enough, but most people focus on neither, they do a half assed job at academics and at living, these are your average people in school, you know the popular ones.
Its easy to be popular, just try to be as average as possible, but have a unique sense of humor. Dress like everyone else, act like everyone else, be stupid like everyone else, and dont have a personality, instead change your personality based on who you are around, be a nerd with the nerds, be a thug with the thugs, be an athelete with the atheletes, this is how you become popular.
But being popular only makes you hated, everyone knows you, including ignorant people who may get jealous of you, this is the downside to being popular, the other downside is no one in any of these groups actually knows you and none of them gives a damn about you, you are just a person who walks around from group to group talking to different people every day, you have no real friends.
This sucks because when you are upset, sad, or need someone to talk to about personal stuff no one is there for you, none of them will want to hear what you have to say, in fact they will most likely share it with the world if you do tell them just so they can get a laugh.
" What point has life without friendship and social relations? I know I won't give a flying fuck about all the software I've written when I'm sixty and retired - or when I'm 85 and dead!"
Thanks for aggressing that. People who are popular have no friends. I was popular before, these jokers turned against me when I was popular, I had no real friends, they were just people I knew. Of course I was stupid and thought they were my friend, they only talked to me for a specific reason, perhaps I was useful to the group, I was entertaining, I was funny, I was "cool".
The second I ceased being cool, the second I had nothing left to offer the group, they group drops you. Which means the group doesnt give a damn.
I would much rather be out on the town partying with friends than sitting in a darkened room figuring out why libDV is miscompiling - don't you people understand? When you are gone, none of this will matter, and the best you can hope for is that you will have left some happy memories for those that survive you.
You act like Nerds have no friends, I have friends, the difference is we know exactly who are friends are and who they arent, its unreaistic for anyone to have 20 friends, 30 friends etc, you know most of these people talk shit behind your back, make fun of you, and dont give a damn about you, you might have a friend or two out of the group of 20 or 30, but why surrounded yourself with questionable people when you can surround yourself with good people who accept you for you and who you know are your friends?
Please, for your own sake, try and enjoy your lives before they are over, and before the best years of your lives fly past. Of course, if you do prefer debugging programs to the stuff people do together in the flesh, the laughter and socialising and romance, then go for it. It's not for me, or anyone else to tell you otherwise.
There are no "best" years, you have to understand everyones best years are different, my best years might be someone elses worse years. People try to live up to societies standards so much that they try to force their best years to be in their prime years when its not supposed to be, sure you can drop out of school and sit around drinking and going to parties, and what 10 years later when you are out of your prime? Well then you have a lifetime of shitty years just so you can have maybe 5 or 10 years of best years.
But don't refuse to see the value of popularity, and never think it's beyond your grasp - I would say that 90% of 'nerds' could become paragons of friendliness and popularity if they just came out of their shells! Don't change your clothes, don't take up a sport, don't join a gang, just be yourself, smile at people and learn to listen!
I'm not the usual nerd, because I didnt start off as a Nerd. I was popular, then I wasnt, then I was going back and forth, but the only reason I was popular is because I always had the most video games, the nicest toys, or because I went out of my way to entertain people, even at the expense of being a class clown. Sure I was popuar but these people didnt give a fuck about me.
The friends I have now do, thats the difference. I'm not popuar and I can count my friends on one hand, but these people are part of my circle and we will be cool till death.
How many people do you have who you know care about you and who have proven in? I'm sure popuar people cannot say each of these people they KNOW give a damn about them, in fact most of them are just taking advantage.
There is nothing to brag about in claiming to be "hard" Because once you become hard you cant go back, you cant feel emotion anymore the harder you get.
What is the benefit to being hard when it comes time to be soft, such as when raising your kids, dealing with your friends and family, or raising your kids but you forget how to feel anything because you were too busy trying to be hard to remember how to be soft?
Its true, I did escape into video games and computers, if i did not I'd be lost like the rest of these people who live in the real world until the real world makes them cold like walking dead.
Whats the point?
Pretty soon they are really cut off from the pack with just a few other zealot nerd friends. They probably are even being friendly in a classical sense. If they are nerds they probably spend their time arguing with one another. The difference is the pack is not real friends, just people who dont give a shit/fuck/damn about you. They only hang around you because you have something to offer them, maybe you entertain them, maybe you have money, maybe you have a sense of humor, but these people wont be there for you when you have your down times which every human has. When your life isnt going well and you need someone to talk to, these people wont listen, they will drop you and turn on you in an instant.
I've been popular for a while and it was fun at first until they all turned on me. Popular sucks because they arent really your friends, so its smart to be introverted growing up when everyone around you is ignorant.
Zealots tend to only take care of one thing or a couple of things in their life with any real devotion. Everything else suffers. They often aren't in shape, can't hold a good conversation, can't pick up the girls, won't take time to develop common interests to bullshit with the rest of the pack. Nerds (zealots) are rebels. I like rebels.
The world does not give a damn about how well rounded you are, the economy does not give a shit about how well you pick up women, the only thing which society cares about is what you can offer it, and these well rounded people have nothing to offer. So what you can talk to women better than me, you are maybe more atheletic, and? This doesnt help you because eventually you will grow old, and your job at the gas station or mc donalds will not help you raise your children.
The key to success in this world is to focus on something. Often "Zealots" focus on something and are considered a genius but its only because these well rounded people dont focus on anything which makes them well rounded.
I could have had social skills, will it help me get women? Not really, you wont find a wife with social skills alone, the Macho Atheletes get women in highschool sure, but it ends there, it is the nerds who have women around them from College and on.
Even though I get attention from women, I dont know if its because they think I'm attractive or they think I have potential to be successful because they feel I'm smart, I ignore most women due to the fact that they usually have motives which arent pure.
If a woman approaches me, becomes my friend, and likes me for me, thats the woman I pay attention to.
The woman who sees me and thinks I'm hot, the woman who thinks I'm very smart, but does not really want to know anything about me on a personal level, those women I ignore,, although I might have sex with them a couple of times first.
Slashdot Mirror
Its not about porn or music, I want to see hacker sites return. Remember all the hacking sites which people tried to ban, I want to see them come back, I want to see culture return to the internet besides corperate culture.
We need to take advantage of freenet to make lots and lots of websites, we have unlimited storage space, if it becomes fast enough speed wont be a problem, we can put chatrooms in freenet too, this can really work.
We just need to make sites, and not just porn and warez sites, but all kinds of sites, political sites, geek sites, gaming sites, etc.
Freenet is finally becoming mature and stable, this is very very good news.
Now its time for people like us to go to freenet and put linux sites, slashdot type sites, and maybe some hacker/geek culture to freenet.
Freenet shouldnt be just about porn and warez because it will be very easy to outlaw it, what we need to do is fill freenet up with useful content for the masses, maybe put WikiPedia type stuff in freenet.
Its time to make some sites, specifically its time to bring back the hacker/geek culture that was lost, I'd like to see some hacker sites return, some chatrooms, etc etc
"You make subjective statements based on your beliefs with no back up evidence, " John J Macionis Sociology says that its a western viewpoint, its safe to take what he says over you.
The only people that do not do this are slaves, end of story.
Make up your mind.Everyone does or everyone doesnt, there is no inbetween, we are free or we arent.
people who are following their own needs wants or desires
We all are slaves to responsibility and society, to our jobs, to our families, and to our parents. Slaves can always choose to do whatever they want, slaves can turn on their masters, rebel, and be punished, just like you can be fired from your job, put in jail, or disowned by your family and friends.
We affect other people by the choice to do it alone, this is the only truth that empiric evidence supports, everything else is at this point subjective opinion. No because sometimes you dont have a choice. IF I attack you with a knife and I'm trying to kill you, I've removed your choice, your only option is to defend yourself or you'll cease to exist meaning you'll never have another choice again, so theres only one choice here, defend yourself from my attack.
People influence your choices, we are all connected.
You have a very American point of view which expects everyone to be very individualistic and selfish in their thinking, but not everyone believes in "self"
There is really no such thing as a self, we all are connected as one living thing, what I do effects everyone else, everyone is me and I am everyone because we are all connected as one.
So you saying I do something because of the effect it has on me, I may not even live to see the effects of everything I do, so why should I do anything which I will not live to see the rewards of?
If i dedicate my life to my work I wont live to see the results of the work I do, einstien did this, but he didnt live to see the results, why did he do it? because he felt a need? or because he wanted to change the world?
Individual need has nothing to do with the needs of the world, sometimes people do things because the world needs it, not because they as an individual need it.
Bin Laden believes that his actions are changing the world, he believes the world needs to be changed, maybe hes right, but he wont live to see the changes even if they do change.
Jesus christ, he believed the world needed to be changed, he never lived to see the change.
Martin Luther King Jf, Ghandi, etc believed in changing the world but never lived to see it.
You see, theres western thought and eastern thought, western thinkers believe in individuality and the self being seperate intity, they believe god is a seperate force, they dont understand the concept of everything being one force so they cannot easily understand reincarnation, they cannot easily understand that there is really no individuality, that everything you do effects everyone else,
So when you are deciding if you should steal and rob people, or not, or at least when I'm deciding this (I'm poor and I'd benefit greatly by robbing some rich person) I decide against it not because I'm afraid of prison (I'm poor), I decide against it not because I give a damn about some stranger whos rich, the reason I decide against it is because of the theory of cause and effect.
My actions could totally ruin a persons life, this man may have children, it may effect him on a mental and not physical level, he may in turn do something to someone else which down the line leads to a domino effect causing great damage to hundreds of people, all because I robbed some rich guy.
Perhaps robbing this rich guy simply puts him in a bad mood, suddenly he fires alot of people, and this triggers a set of events which leads to one of the fired few to come to work and shoot up the office, this would be my fault because I'd be directly responsible for causing the trigger of events which lead to that.
Theres no such thing as an individual, a selfish action is simply an action which you do from your own motivation, but my motivation does not come from me, it comes from enviornment, it comes from others.
I'm not motivated to do anything but survive, every other motivation comes from the fact that I know we arent seperate and so I carefully plan every action I do, The actions I do I hope trigger a set of events which will help humanity instead of damange it, I will never know what happens or what the effects of what I do will have on humanity, so whatever I'm doing cannot be for selfish reasons if I dont even know what I'm doing.
Think of it like that.
I wont be alive to see the results so hows it scratching an inch?
I dont feel a "need" to do it just because I choose to do something. Not everything I do is something I feel like doing. I do chores because people make me do it, not because I NEED to or feel like doing it, I dont want to do that.
Some people feel some kinda need to go have sex or do drugs.
Yeah but they dont need to pay for them so why not go rob people, i mean they need the drugs, they need the money, so just take it right? Oh wait,because not everyone agrees that its right to steal and rob people.
Theres alot of things I need, alot of things I feel, my decisions have nothing to do with what I feel or need, they are logical decisions.
Please tell me how a person who dies for this country or dies to protect someone else feels a need to die? Of course they dont want to die, they dont NEED or WANT to do this, they believe the cause is more valueable than their life so they die for it.
Bin Laden blowing himself up is a selfless act, bin laden gets nothing from this, yeah he believes in an afterlife but he gets nothing from this. Until you can prove people feel this so called "need" to do everything they choose to do, you cannot prove everything anyone does is what they feel like doing.
I'm sure alot of people dont feel like going to work every single day or school every morning.
Not really, I dont get anything out of helping them,I help them because its my responsibility to help them.
You just dont get it. Say you had a child, you may not live to see this child go to college, you most likely wont outlive your own child, so if you think selfishly like you do, you'll think "well why should I raise this child, I wont be around to see this kid go to college, who cares I'm going to do what I want"
or you might think something like "Why should I get life insurence, I wont be alive to enjoy it! Its not going to benefit me, why should I leave anything to my children?"
This is Selfish.
Selfless is when you do something without expecting anything in return. When I help my friend with something, I dont do it because I feel some kinda "need" to do it, I dont dont feel anything, heres why I do it.
Some peoples purpose in life, is to pleasure themselves and do whatever they want, this is fine
Currently I'm not in college because I want to go, I'm in there so I can support a family if I ever have one of my own.
The only purpose I have in life is self improvement, I consider my friends and family (my circle) to be one with me. I love them like I love myself, while I do not get anything out of improving their lives, they get something out of it, if I died before seeing the results of my actions it doesnt matter, I'm not doing it for me, I'm doing it for them.
I guess some people cannot understand the fact that not everything people do in life is selfish reasons, I suppose you could claim its for selfish reasons if you base it on the fact I consider them part of myself, but they are seperate physical beings with seperate thoughts and ideas, I'm connected to them yes so I want them to be the best they can be as I want the same for myself.
That may not make sense to you, you have the selfish thought process, think outside the box, understand that not everything you do in life will matter in this lifetime and some people do donate themselves to causes.
Military people who die for this country, parents who raise children even though they know they have cancer and wont get to see them grow up, alot of situations.
Actually, no, I help because I love them. Read my post carefully.
actuallly, you are sooooo right, now get a name
You act like being lazy is a good thing or a good quality. Lazy = Selfish, you do whatever you want when you want to do it, but you arent thinking about the future or being critical.
Sure its ok to be lazy sometimes, but if you have a goal to accomplish you should put your best effort into it period.
If you get all As then you can be lazy.
Not everyone is thinking about "self" some people want to have families, some people want to do more than just survive, some people actually want to change the world.
be happy in your cubical.
I dont know of any easy colleges.
I'm in boston and they all seem to make you do some work, of course its not hard work, but you have to do and pass the tests with over a 90 to get a 4.0 GPA.
So yeah you should aim to pass every test and assignment with over a 90,sometimes teachers dont count the first test but the rest count.
"Who cares what people think of you when you're dead, you're dead. It doesn't *matter*, not to you, being dead and all nothing matters to you, whether Cindy cried cause you were a nice person or whether noone even noticed."
Some people are selfish and some are selfless.
Somethings I do in life I may not live to see the result of, but the only real purpose I have in life is to make the lives of the people who are in my circle better.
I have no motivation to "control" or to "dominate", I am not "pleasure" oriented, sure I like to have fun but as I've grown older I've understood that what matters most in life is not how much "pleasure" you get, what really matters in the long term is having people around you who care about you, who give a shit about you, and who you care about.
Its the same arguement which can be used in say, should you just go out and have sex, never having a serious relationship? Sure you'd get pleasure in the short term, and its true you might die tomorrow, but what matters more? so you have a few hours of pleasure, if you do live a long life, when you get older you will understand your life was an absolute waste because all you did in life was pleasure yourself, every act you did gave you some sorta pleasure or good feeling, every good thing you did wasnt done out of selflessness it was done to make you feel better,
you can focus on yourself for ever but some people begin to understand that self is only part of the whole. The whole would be your friends, your family, the people you love, they are a part of you as well so its wise to do things for them even if it doesnt benefit you in any way to do it.
When you have kids hopefully you will dedicate a portion of your life to raise them properly, of course this doesnt benefit you because you might not live to see them grow up, but the reason for doing stuff like this is because you love them, not because it benefits you or makes you feel good.
Thus, the only reason to pursue popularity is if you value the opinions of other people in life, that's subjective, but for the record, I don't give a fuck. The I dont give a fuck attitude is the typical hard/numb/cold attitude that I talk about. This is exactly what I've decided not to be, the only reason I'm not like that is because I have people to give a fuck about.
" That's why I had to put in that paragraph about university being the ultimate reality check for geek megalomania. It wasn't until partway through that particular wringer that I truly "got it", in that I figured out it was also OK not to have a 4.0 GPA, so long as I was learning something and making progress towards the goal of a degree in a field you enjoyed - and to stop beating myself up every time I got a 3.5."
Its not OKAY to not have a 4.0 GPA, you should always put 100 percent effort into everything you do, now if you did your absolute best and you have a 3.5 GPA, you did good.
If you reduce yourself to accepting low grades you are going to make yourself lazy. With every test you take you should aim for 100, with every book you read you should try to gather as much info as possible, reading beyond what is required, do extra research on your own using the internet, write papers that are of perfect quality, not just the quality required to pass the class.
This is important because what matters in the real world is perfection, not hard work.
Of course no one does perfect work, but the closer your work is to perfect the better the quality.
I'm not saying I had a guide or a mentor growing up, I didnt, so I fell into that trap too, it wasnt cool to be smart.
Until I turned about 17 or 18, and had bills to pay, when I finally got a job I then began to understand how the world actually works, thats when I began to take school seriously, although I blame my parents for not making me understand this sooner.
It seems everybody says that in high school. But as much as the need to talk themselves out of caring what others think, deep down they always do. It's possible your family support was much greater than hers. All too often, the parents again, it is not too important that the girl gets educated properly, hey she's just going to marry someone who is.
While I never cared what people thought of me, I wanted to be liked, because I thought it was what I was supposed to do, everyone telling me I need to make friends including my family, forced me into this thought process that I need to be "cool"
Good for you, to think that way in high school. I myself tried, but I think I was 25 before I actually got it.. On a side note, I raised a daughter, and watched her tank through high school, even though I knew better. But I spent a lot of time reminding her of her strengths, and that she would leave all of these so-called friends in the dust. It does help - the family support. She is all A's now, and very career driven. She is indeed, leaving her friends in the dust.
This is right, but as a parent I think its the parents responsibility to explain to a child how the world works at a young age, perhaps give that child little jobs and make then earn their allowance instead of just giving it to them, teach them to think for themselves, and lastly, dont pressure them to make friends or be overly social, 90 percent of the people they will meet in school will be a bad influence. Make sure they focus on their work and explain to them cause and effect.
When they say they want to be a doctor, explain to them what they have to do to be a doctor, dont just tell them to stay in school just because they are supposed to, tell them exactly and bluntly, "if you want to be a doctor you have to be educated"
explain to them in their final year of middle school that they should dedicate the next few years to accomplishing their goal of being a doctor, and perhaps give up their social life for a few years and put their heads into the books, get all As, give them tips on studying, such as explaining to them how they dont have to be limited by the class, and how they can read ahead on their own, explain to them tests arent a measure of intelligence and to gather as much knowledge as possible regardless of their test scores, and they should do just fine.
If they dont get a 1500 on their SATs, so what, as long as they have alot of knowledge and study skills by the time they get to college they will be in the habit of reading the required chapters of a book and to continue on reading extra, instead of just doing enough to get by, if you can get a student or child to put 100 percent into what they are doing success is almost guarenteed.
I'm from the USA and university is expensive as hell, our government doesnt pay shit unless you dont have a dime and your family doesnt have a dime (like in my case) and even then you have to pay most of the loans back.
If you arent mature you arent intelligent. I mean really.
The "growing out of it" statement assumes everyone goes through phases of being dumb, I was NEVER a dumb person and I say dumb not immature because people die over this stuff.
People die because they are STUPID, I mean really intelligence ok you can call it maturity, but it doesnt matter, ultimately theres no reason for an intelligent person to somehow be limited and it seems most of these so called intelligent people NEVER learn.
They seem to never reach my moral or emotional level, I mean really these so called intelligent people who has short tempers and no self control so they get into fights, how intelligent is that? You know the results of your actions before you do them but you cant control yourr emotions? Thats lack of intelligence, lack of self understanding and self control, this is due to the fact that they never focus on self improvement (ignorance).
If a person cannot think for themselves, cannot stay out of trouble, cannot stop drinking and refuses to learn morality, how am I supposed to make excuses for them? I did it, so either I 'm a genius or they are stupid, which is it?
Usually the smarter ones mature and grow out of it. The ones that don't? Well..
And by college, hell by age 18 a person should be at that state where they have a general understanding of cause and effect, right and wrong, and judgement, if you dont have this you have absolutely nothing, all the booksmarts in the world wont earn my respect.
If you dont have morals, friendships with me is impossible, if you dont have good judgement I dont even want to be around you, and if you dont understand cause and effect you are just too ignorant to speak to me.
I'm not an elitist, but I dont make excuses for people considering most of these kids in college got a better start than I did, had both parents around raising them, went to good schools, had all these people teaching them and they STILL dont know shit?
Well theres no excuse for this, they are just dumb, especially if a person who educated himself and had little to no guidance can somehow have learned better judgement.
yeah and when these girls get older they'll use their psychological mind game bullshit on us guys.
seems like you've never been popular, the more popular you become, the more jealous people get of you, hey I must be too popular here on slashdot, considering guys like you get jealous of me and make posts like these.
And you prove my point in your former post AntiHanzoSan
and plenty of fans as well
well my list of values are required for friendship.
Truth and Honesty seem the same thing, and honor and dignity but I just focus on whats required for longterm relationships of any kind, and create values which allow them to be healthy.
Well, I dont know if i agree that you get stronger by being hurt. I think it damages you, and weakens you while making you appear stronger. By being numb it weakens you in other ways which you wont understand until you grow older, by numb i'm saying emotionally numb.
And I still think popularity has a point - it lets you meet new people - lots of new people! This is one of my favourite things. Some of these people you'll never see again, and some of them will go on to form lasting relationships or friendships with you. Both are good.
But not quality people. The people I like to meet arent the type of people who would notice a popular person. The shy quiet types, the nerds, or the really creative and intelligent types usually avoid crowds.
You see, I dont really want to draw attention of the social engineering type, the political types, the assholes, those types are the exact people I try to avoid and by being popular in the wrong way or spot it can cause ignorance to surround you instead of intelligence.
And in answer to your question, I would count about 15-20 of my regular associates as close friends - these are the people that would take me into their homes if I was out of a job, help me move house, come and take care of me if I was sick, etc. Many of them have had to do these things in the past. It is possible to form real friendships with lots of people, and I think it's a desireable thing.
Have all 20 done this before? how do you know? Theres no way they can all be proven so you must be taking their word for it. Thats not safe.
I apologise for coming across so confrontationally, but this is a very sensitive issue for me - I have friends ( yes, real friends
I want quality friends, not quantity. Its very very difficult to meet people who are up to my standards in terms of loyalty, and morality.
Most people I meet have some major problem, maybe they beat the shit out of women, they steal from people, they are a liar, they constantly talk shit behind peoples backs or they just are fake.
The qualities I want or look for, matter in this order, they must be loyal, they must be honest most of the time, they must generally not do any mental or physical harm to anyone else.
But people who are assholes who harm others deliberately, these types are not capable of being friends with me. I dont like sneaky people or questionable people, if i have any doubts I just move on.
Many ignorant people. Sure some people at university are intelligent, but 60 percent I'd say are ignorant and just rich, gifted, or other.
But rarely have I met people who I view as both intelligent inside and outside the classroom. You will not impress me because you can get a perfect score on a test, so you have a photographic memory, if you cannot use that photographic memory in the real world you are stupid.
I see most people in college spending all their time partying and acting immature, I'm not saying theres anything wrong with this but just watch how people act, not how they act in class but in real life. Look at how they treat their relationships with the opposite sex, most people in college dont seem to take relationships seriously, cheat on each other, and do other stupid shit, intelligent? But not intelligent enough to ask older generations how to properly handle a relationship? Not intelligent enough to know the difference between love & lust? Not intelligent enough to get along with a roomate?
These people act intelligent in the classroom only proving they arent really all that intelligent if they cant take their intelligence and properly use it. What about moral intelligence? What about knowing right from wrong, having good judgement, knowing how not to make stupid mistakes like drink yourself to death like some of these dumbass kids do, or stupid women who let men drug their drinks and get raped.
I mean really if you are in college you should be intelligent enough to avoid these things and situations, you may not avoid all situations but 90 percent of the time the situation you are in are the situations you allow yourself to be put into.
I know I'm ahead of the game in terms of social intelligence, and moral intelligence considering I dont have to fuck up a thousand times to learn not to do something, I know better because I watch other people fuck up and then I learn from them.
Every action I do, I know the effects of this action, and possible reactions in which the enviornment might have on these actions.
Theres alot more to being intelligent than just getting good grades, and just because you can talk to girls and you think you know what you are doing doesnt mean you are smart enough to avoid being seduced and taken advantage of by a woman, or a woman getting sexually abused by a man.
I think I've made my point here.
When I was popular, I had people wanting to kick my ass, people who were jealous of me and I didnt even know who they are, I had rumors being spread about me for no reason, I had people talking behind my back constantly. Whats the point of all this political bullshit?
The more popular you become the harder it is to determine who your friends are.
There is no correspondence between intelligence and social ineptitude. I've known as many popular smart people as I've known unpopular smart people. Infact, most of the unpopular smart people I knew scored lower on their SAT than the popular. I realize that this is a rough estimate and that SAT scores do not directly relate to intelligence; perhaps it was just coincidence, but still an interesting statistic, none the less.
I judge intelligence not just by how well you do on tests in school, but how you live your life. If you are getting into trouble, and you are doing stupid things outside the classroom I dont give a damn if you get all As, you are stupid. IF you are doing good in life, if you dont get all As so what? You make up for it by how you live.
Alot of smart people are smart but dont know how to be social, thats because they focused too much on academics, then you have people who dont focus on academics enough, but most people focus on neither, they do a half assed job at academics and at living, these are your average people in school, you know the popular ones.
Its easy to be popular, just try to be as average as possible, but have a unique sense of humor. Dress like everyone else, act like everyone else, be stupid like everyone else, and dont have a personality, instead change your personality based on who you are around, be a nerd with the nerds, be a thug with the thugs, be an athelete with the atheletes, this is how you become popular.
But being popular only makes you hated, everyone knows you, including ignorant people who may get jealous of you, this is the downside to being popular, the other downside is no one in any of these groups actually knows you and none of them gives a damn about you, you are just a person who walks around from group to group talking to different people every day, you have no real friends.
This sucks because when you are upset, sad, or need someone to talk to about personal stuff no one is there for you, none of them will want to hear what you have to say, in fact they will most likely share it with the world if you do tell them just so they can get a laugh.
" What point has life without friendship and social relations? I know I won't give a flying fuck about all the software I've written when I'm sixty and retired - or when I'm 85 and dead!"
Thanks for aggressing that. People who are popular have no friends. I was popular before, these jokers turned against me when I was popular, I had no real friends, they were just people I knew. Of course I was stupid and thought they were my friend, they only talked to me for a specific reason, perhaps I was useful to the group, I was entertaining, I was funny, I was "cool".
The second I ceased being cool, the second I had nothing left to offer the group, they group drops you. Which means the group doesnt give a damn.
I would much rather be out on the town partying with friends than sitting in a darkened room figuring out why libDV is miscompiling - don't you people understand? When you are gone, none of this will matter, and the best you can hope for is that you will have left some happy memories for those that survive you.
You act like Nerds have no friends, I have friends, the difference is we know exactly who are friends are and who they arent, its unreaistic for anyone to have 20 friends, 30 friends etc, you know most of these people talk shit behind your back, make fun of you, and dont give a damn about you, you might have a friend or two out of the group of 20 or 30, but why surrounded yourself with questionable people when you can surround yourself with good people who accept you for you and who you know are your friends?
Please, for your own sake, try and enjoy your lives before they are over, and before the best years of your lives fly past. Of course, if you do prefer debugging programs to the stuff people do together in the flesh, the laughter and socialising and romance, then go for it. It's not for me, or anyone else to tell you otherwise.
There are no "best" years, you have to understand everyones best years are different, my best years might be someone elses worse years. People try to live up to societies standards so much that they try to force their best years to be in their prime years when its not supposed to be, sure you can drop out of school and sit around drinking and going to parties, and what 10 years later when you are out of your prime? Well then you have a lifetime of shitty years just so you can have maybe 5 or 10 years of best years.
But don't refuse to see the value of popularity, and never think it's beyond your grasp - I would say that 90% of 'nerds' could become paragons of friendliness and popularity if they just came out of their shells! Don't change your clothes, don't take up a sport, don't join a gang, just be yourself, smile at people and learn to listen!
I'm not the usual nerd, because I didnt start off as a Nerd. I was popular, then I wasnt, then I was going back and forth, but the only reason I was popular is because I always had the most video games, the nicest toys, or because I went out of my way to entertain people, even at the expense of being a class clown. Sure I was popuar but these people didnt give a fuck about me.
The friends I have now do, thats the difference. I'm not popuar and I can count my friends on one hand, but these people are part of my circle and we will be cool till death.
How many people do you have who you know care about you and who have proven in? I'm sure popuar people cannot say each of these people they KNOW give a damn about them, in fact most of them are just taking advantage.
There is nothing to brag about in claiming to be "hard" Because once you become hard you cant go back, you cant feel emotion anymore the harder you get.
What is the benefit to being hard when it comes time to be soft, such as when raising your kids, dealing with your friends and family, or raising your kids but you forget how to feel anything because you were too busy trying to be hard to remember how to be soft?
Its true, I did escape into video games and computers, if i did not I'd be lost like the rest of these people who live in the real world until the real world makes them cold like walking dead.
Whats the point?
Pretty soon they are really cut off from the pack with just a few other zealot nerd friends. They probably are even being friendly in a classical sense. If they are nerds they probably spend their time arguing with one another. The difference is the pack is not real friends, just people who dont give a shit/fuck/damn about you. They only hang around you because you have something to offer them, maybe you entertain them, maybe you have money, maybe you have a sense of humor, but these people wont be there for you when you have your down times which every human has. When your life isnt going well and you need someone to talk to, these people wont listen, they will drop you and turn on you in an instant.
I've been popular for a while and it was fun at first until they all turned on me. Popular sucks because they arent really your friends, so its smart to be introverted growing up when everyone around you is ignorant.
Zealots tend to only take care of one thing or a couple of things in their life with any real devotion. Everything else suffers. They often aren't in shape, can't hold a good conversation, can't pick up the girls, won't take time to develop common interests to bullshit with the rest of the pack. Nerds (zealots) are rebels. I like rebels.
The world does not give a damn about how well rounded you are, the economy does not give a shit about how well you pick up women, the only thing which society cares about is what you can offer it, and these well rounded people have nothing to offer. So what you can talk to women better than me, you are maybe more atheletic, and? This doesnt help you because eventually you will grow old, and your job at the gas station or mc donalds will not help you raise your children.
The key to success in this world is to focus on something. Often "Zealots" focus on something and are considered a genius but its only because these well rounded people dont focus on anything which makes them well rounded.
I could have had social skills, will it help me get women? Not really, you wont find a wife with social skills alone, the Macho Atheletes get women in highschool sure, but it ends there, it is the nerds who have women around them from College and on.
Even though I get attention from women, I dont know if its because they think I'm attractive or they think I have potential to be successful because they feel I'm smart, I ignore most women due to the fact that they usually have motives which arent pure.
If a woman approaches me, becomes my friend, and likes me for me, thats the woman I pay attention to.
The woman who sees me and thinks I'm hot, the woman who thinks I'm very smart, but does not really want to know anything about me on a personal level, those women I ignore,, although I might have sex with them a couple of times first.