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They are supporting open source, so what if they are for profit, if you want them to survive you will support them, Open source companies must make money somehow.
Or are you so greedy you wont even give them money so they will keep making your code?
The world is good and evil, grey? Sure theres people who are half evil and half good, I have family members like that but those arent the ones I try to have as friends.
I have a family member who is a thief, it sucks to have to worry about them stealing from you constantly, even if they are family, the only reason I put up with it is because they are family, if you for example were to steal from me I'd never speak to you again.
The world isnt black and white, but when dealinng with people and its time to judge character its best to seperate the good from the bad in a black and white fasion. Why? Because there are people who are 99% good, and then there are people who are 99% evil, just because most people fall somewhere in the middle doesnt mean I should change my standards. Better to have the best people around you as friends, than to have mediocre people like the ones you most likely surround yourself with.
I'm in America, I dont think you own your thoughts so I have the freedom to use them as my own.
If you want to get into philosophy and you are an existentialist who believes that your reality is yours, well my reality is mine, and in my reality I own all the information, sue me.
They did have Wars, but these Wars they had no choice but to have, It wasnt like the Japanese just deciding to attack us, or like us just deciding we want to attack Iraq.
China has had conflicts but they have not come all the way to the USA or to Europe and decide to take over.
Maybe I'm not Human? But I dont give a damn about Human Nature, using Human Nature is making an excuse for evil or for bad people,
I dont make excuses, if you are a serial killer, a rapist, or a greedy bastard CEO you are a bad person, this has nothing to do with "Human" Nature, this has to do with YOUR Nature as an individual.
When dealing with Good and Evil we cannot act like Evil is normal so we must ignore it, if its wrong we must stand up and fight against it.
You have political freedom yes, but you dont have complete freedom in the USA, the courts in the USA are as corrupt as China, whoever has the money to hire Johnnie Cochran will get away with murder. The system is corrupt, whichever politician gets the most contributions and money decides the laws, and the laws are basically the laws that big businesses want, big businesses are the rich elite who try to create laws so they can stay rich, like the intellectual property laws.
Yes but not all software or music you pay for is better than what you can find for free, pure oxygen might be better or it might kill you.
So please tell me what your point is? I can see if the majority of software that we paid for was of better quality, or the majority of music was of better quality, but its not, its the same quality. Open Source Linux issurpassing Windows in quality.
you believe words can be owned. So does China, thats why you cannot say words about their government or their politics without going to jail.
you arent understanding that distribution on a computer is an extention of your speak, its not physical so its not a work, its information representing a work, its 1s and 0s which when put together becomes a work, it in my opinion is just an idea, and thats all it will ever be, and i dont think anyone owns any ideas, ideas are like air, we inhale and exhale ideas and thats all we do all our lives so why should we put a price on something we'd naturally produce for free? Its like putting a price on air.
Yes I can believe all the individual state governments combined with federal may pay this much.
However the federal government doesnt pay hardly any of this, most of this number is made up of state government. We arent talking about republicans running for governor of massachussets complaining about high taxes and welfare, I'm talking about guys like President Bush who want to cut FEDERAL taxes down to almost nothing (trillion dollar tax cut) which only forces states to raise taxes so we never actually SEE a tax cut unless we live in the middle of no where like he does on a ranch somewhere or in idaho.
To people living in the city or in highly developed economic centers we have high taxes, its a fact of life, we NEED high taxes because we have more people, we have more poverty, we have more crime and we also make more money so when you give a number like 430 billion its nothing if the state makes hundreds of billions of dollars.
Silicon Valley most likely has hundrreds of billions in its economy, as does Washington,
"Federal subsidies to private businesses cost taxpayers $87 billion per year. That is over 30 percent more than the Cato Institute's 1997 corporate welfare estimate of $65 billion. If corporate welfare were eliminated tomorrow, the federal government could provide taxpayers with an annual tax cut more than twice as large as the tax rebate checks mailed out in 2001.
President Bush's first proposed budget recommends about $12 billion in total corporate welfare cuts. Most notable are the proposed cuts for the Advanced Technology Program, the Export-Import Bank, the Overseas Private Investment Corporation, the Maritime Administration's guaranteed loan program, and the Small Business Administration. However, the Bush budget proposal also increases some of the largest corporate welfare programs, such as federal aid to oil companies through the fossil energy research and development program and research subsidies to aerospace companies as well as increases for the National Agricultural Statistics Service, the Foreign Agriculture Service, and the Conservation Reserve Program."
So our government can spend money on keeping corperations alive with welfare but it cant spend this same money to go over to south central LA and give venture capital to some minorities who want to start new businesses for their communities?
China has stayed to itself for centuries, wasnt involved in any of the world wars, isnt out taking over the world, but China could do so if they wanted to.
911 only happened because we were in their country getting involved in their fight with isreal which has been going on for thousands of years.
I didnt say we deserved it, but isreal doesnt deserve the support we give it either, we are playing politics by picking a side in a never ending war, and this is why we get attacked by the other side.
If I see you fighting with someone and I give your enemy a knife, of course you are going to punch me in the face.
We arent the only bad in the world, every other country is bad too, the problem is we are spreading ourselves all over and other countries who dont want anything to do with us have to deal with us going to their countries telling them what to do, they have to deal with us giving their enemies weapons and intelligence on them, and deal with our companies exploiting their natural resources.
If China decided to flood us with millions of Chinese immigrants and the Chinese slowly consumed and took over the whole USA, taking all of the businesses, changing the flag eventually to the Chinese flag, and changing the whole culture of the USA to the point where the USA becomes part of China, how would you like it?
We dont even need oil anymore, we have more efficient cheaper almost free energy. The only reason oil is used is because oil companies want us to buy oil, the only reason iraq is so popular lately is because Bush has stock in oil companies,
Businesses run this country, its not about the economy at all, its about big business. Big businesses are actually bad for the economy because small businesses actually are the backbone of any economy.
Since I live poor right now I can tell you the solution. The solution to poverty is better schools and economic development.
How can this be done? First give more venture capital to people who want to start business in these areas, the government should set it up so venture capital is not given all to one spot like silicon valley.
Private and Public schools should have residential options, this means kids who are being raised by 1 parent in a bad enviornment should be able to go to a residential school, they should qualify for residential school based on need, if you are a kid with only one parent and you dont make alot of money, you should be able to go to a residential school where you will have teachers teaching you 24/7, you will be in a good enviornment with role models and have a proper safe childhood, you go home on the weekends or whenever your parents decide to pick you up and take you. (I was in a residential school for a year so I know from experience)
" They are working to fix the problem, but it's not about money. It's about changing culture. It's about changing families. "
Families? The problem is lack of family, too many single parents, children who come home to empty houses because the one parent is working 2 jobs and cant raise their kids properly. Lack of positive influence and role models, etc, its not a culture issue because you put this same kid in the proper enviornment and they will do fine, the problem is money. When you work 2 jobs you do not have time to teach your kid anything, your kid has no guide, you are never around enough to help them, the school your kid goes to if it sucks your kid wont learn anything, and the only option left really is the streets because your kid comes home to an empty house.
The first issue is proper education, residential schools solves this, the second solution is economic development, by spending money in the proper fashion it will create jobs so that kids who dont have any money can work a legit job instead of be forced into selling drugs or doing something stupid, venture capitalist funding should be placed in these areas, and businesses should be started, I think this could all be fixed within a generation if people started building residential schools now, if they started throwing money into the actual community and not give money away to welfare, and instead of the boys and girls club, kids should be able to live on campus at school, our tax dollars should pay for this for parents who cannot afford to pay, and for parents who can afford to pay they can continue working 2 jobs and pay.
Also getting married is not a solution, if you think it is, guess what, 70 percent of people who get married end up getting divorced, so eventually the same situation will end up happening anyway, instead of promoting getting married we should just set things up in a way so that a single parent can raise kids in this society.
You cannot expect people to get married and stay married when statistics clearly show that the majority of people who get married divorce. You can stop teen pregnancy, residential schools would make it damn hard for children to get pregnant because if you are a parent you could put them in an all girl school.
Yes strong families is one solution but its not a realistic solution, a more realistic solution is to adapt the system to support single parent families.
If we spent the billions of dollars we spend on helping other countries on helping build residential schools and bring jobs into the poorest communities, people in these communities would at least be more educated and when growing up they will at least have the OPTION to stay out of trouble, these kids will also have the CHANCE of getting a job when they finally do grow up, because if your only option after your highschool diploma is mc donalds, you'd make more money selling drugs, until you give them other options, legit options so people can get certifed in something and have a legit job at a local business in their community, theres not really many options after highschool. College? sure they can go to college but if they went to shitty highschools chances are they arent going to be thinking about college.
How can I say all this stuff? I grew up in a single parent home, poor as hell in a cheap apartment, and now I'm in college, I know exactly what the problems were from EXPERIENCE, I know what helped me, so I know the solutions. Culture has less to do with it, its more about enviornment, you put someone of any culture in a bad enviornment and dont give them any way out of it (shitty public schools) these people might not know anything else but the streets, me? I got lucky and had access to the internet, I taught myself things which the school did not teach me, its all about havinng the resources to be successful, with no resources at all and a bad enviornment on top of that, your chances of success are slim.
So thats still censorship, you can re-word it any way you like, it doesnt matter if the governments censoring me, or the creator of something is censoring me, i'm censored and i dont like it.
Whats the difference? When you are on a computer which is essentially a machine which doesnt distribute physical objects but information, if you tell someone they cannot copy and then send out information you are denying their freedom of speech.
Its not physical objects likee you keep trying to say it is, its not a ferrari, its not a ham sandwich which only one person gets to eat, its information.
IF i cannot share information with you because of somee stupid DMCA, thats removing my freedom of speech.
I do not consider this post intellectual propery because I do not believe information can be owned, its not a physical thing. Owning information is like trying to own the air and charge for it. Its a stupid worthless idea in the first place.
Not the same logic, stealing a ferrari is taking something which is actually physically there.
Wares are not physical, software are 1s and 0s, not a physical object like a ferrari, there can only be one farrari, you cannot copy a farrari and share it with a friend, if i steal your ferarri then you lose something.
If i download a file and then send a copy of it to someone else, no one loses anything but someone gains something.
What intellectual propery? A post on the internet can never be owned by anyone, its free information.
Just like I dont own the answer to a math problem that i happen to solve, well at least not in my opinion, but someone else may believe they own the patent on math.
What happens when all the patents are owned? then the same patents hold back progress.
If the same person saying you shouldnt do something is doing it themselves whats that say?
Remember being a kid and your parents said "dont drink, dont smoke, dont do drugs" but they did it right in front of you? It kinda makes you just ignore anything they say and rebel.
This is how the USA sounds, like the parents of the world telling the world what they can and cannot do.
How is it different? The record companies hold a monopoly, they are no different than government.
The record companies, Microsoft, or any of these big giant companies, they are just like government, they tax you for stuff you dont even need like Microsoft Windows coming with your PC even if you dont want it, or record companies trying to rob you and musicians at the same time with $30 cds.
So because our government is Capitalist somehow we are immune to the problems China has? Hell no, we have the same problems, we are run by big business and China is run by elite government officials, both of us however are not run by the people.
No one in the USA but these big businesses want intellectual property. I dont know ANYONE who thinks napster and file sharing should be illegal, I dont know a single sick person who wants their medicine to cost x10 more money because of patents, and I dont know anyone in general who makes money from patents, even musicians i know make most of their money from concerts. The only people making money from the patent and intellectual property industry are fakes like britney spears and guys in suits who sit around bossing people but who have no purpose.
We are a democracy right? I'll believe it when file sharing and marijuana are made legal.
Theres starving kids here. Theres homeless kids here , Families in fact are homeless here. Theres kids growing up with a single parent here in ghettos filled with drugs and whore houses, why give money to people in etheopia or anywhere else when people HERE are on welfare, people here need help, its funny how a republican office can hate welfare, but when its supporting their Agenda suddenly its ok. When American Airlines was attacked Bush steped in with the corperate bailout work 20 billion. When we destroyed afganastan, we now spend billions a year on economic development, if we attack Iraq its going to cost us billions a year.
We dont even spend 1 billion a year on welfare but Republicans complain like welfare is draining every penny out of their pockets, they dont want to help homeless people in this country yet we spend billions each year helpinng homeless people in Africa. We dont protect our own borders yet we have thousands of troops protecting the korean border. What the fuck?! when are we going to stop policing the world, and become America again instead of the world government that we are trying to be?
Thats why we keep getting attacked by terrorists, we spread ourselves thin and focus everywhere but where we should focus.
If all of these sites China was censoring were protected by the DMCA, and there was source code or illegal files on them, suddenly its ok to censor it!
Are we complaining about China because they are Chinese or because of their so called censorship?
China isnt the country locking people up for sharing files, in fact up until recently it was perfectly legal to share your files, they had freedom of speech in that area until WE the so called freedom loving Americans forced them to adopt our censorship laws to protect our intellectual propery from the evil warez pirates of China who cant afford to buy our software anyway.
Its funny how we complain about every nation, China, Afganastan, Pakistan, Iraq, everywhere but if anyone dares complain about the USA they are unAmerican.
I expect to get flamed by a bunch of patriots who will tell me that America is not a country of hypocrites but if you look throughout history, this country was founded by hypocrites who said it was all about freedom, freedom to enslave millions of people and rob the natives of all their land?
So should the masses have absolute freedom of speech? No more DMCA? Or should the elite few people who happen to have some kinda intellectual propery, should these people have freedom to protect it?
I think considering 95 percent of us dont own any intellectual propery, why should we try so hard to protect it? It reduces our freedom.
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They are supporting open source, so what if they are for profit, if you want them to survive you will support them, Open source companies must make money somehow.
Or are you so greedy you wont even give them money so they will keep making your code?
Even if it does it wont be as bad as debian.
If you want them to develop faster join the mandrake club.
The world is good and evil, grey? Sure theres people who are half evil and half good, I have family members like that but those arent the ones I try to have as friends.
I have a family member who is a thief, it sucks to have to worry about them stealing from you constantly, even if they are family, the only reason I put up with it is because they are family, if you for example were to steal from me I'd never speak to you again.
The world isnt black and white, but when dealinng with people and its time to judge character its best to seperate the good from the bad in a black and white fasion. Why? Because there are people who are 99% good, and then there are people who are 99% evil, just because most people fall somewhere in the middle doesnt mean I should change my standards. Better to have the best people around you as friends, than to have mediocre people like the ones you most likely surround yourself with.
I'm in America, I dont think you own your thoughts so I have the freedom to use them as my own.
If you want to get into philosophy and you are an existentialist who believes that your reality is yours, well my reality is mine, and in my reality I own all the information, sue me.
They did have Wars, but these Wars they had no choice but to have, It wasnt like the Japanese just deciding to attack us, or like us just deciding we want to attack Iraq.
China has had conflicts but they have not come all the way to the USA or to Europe and decide to take over.
Maybe I'm not Human? But I dont give a damn about Human Nature, using Human Nature is making an excuse for evil or for bad people,
I dont make excuses, if you are a serial killer, a rapist, or a greedy bastard CEO you are a bad person, this has nothing to do with "Human" Nature, this has to do with YOUR Nature as an individual.
When dealing with Good and Evil we cannot act like Evil is normal so we must ignore it, if its wrong we must stand up and fight against it.
You have political freedom yes, but you dont have complete freedom in the USA, the courts in the USA are as corrupt as China, whoever has the money to hire Johnnie Cochran will get away with murder. The system is corrupt, whichever politician gets the most contributions and money decides the laws, and the laws are basically the laws that big businesses want, big businesses are the rich elite who try to create laws so they can stay rich, like the intellectual property laws.
Yes but not all software or music you pay for is better than what you can find for free, pure oxygen might be better or it might kill you.
So please tell me what your point is? I can see if the majority of software that we paid for was of better quality, or the majority of music was of better quality, but its not, its the same quality. Open Source Linux issurpassing Windows in quality.
you believe words can be owned. So does China, thats why you cannot say words about their government or their politics without going to jail.
you arent understanding that distribution on a computer is an extention of your speak, its not physical so its not a work, its information representing a work, its 1s and 0s which when put together becomes a work, it in my opinion is just an idea, and thats all it will ever be, and i dont think anyone owns any ideas, ideas are like air, we inhale and exhale ideas and thats all we do all our lives so why should we put a price on something we'd naturally produce for free? Its like putting a price on air.
Yes I can believe all the individual state governments combined with federal may pay this much.
However the federal government doesnt pay hardly any of this, most of this number is made up of state government. We arent talking about republicans running for governor of massachussets complaining about high taxes and welfare, I'm talking about guys like President Bush who want to cut FEDERAL taxes down to almost nothing (trillion dollar tax cut) which only forces states to raise taxes so we never actually SEE a tax cut unless we live in the middle of no where like he does on a ranch somewhere or in idaho.
To people living in the city or in highly developed economic centers we have high taxes, its a fact of life, we NEED high taxes because we have more people, we have more poverty, we have more crime and we also make more money so when you give a number like 430 billion its nothing if the state makes hundreds of billions of dollars.
Silicon Valley most likely has hundrreds of billions in its economy, as does Washington,
"Federal subsidies to private businesses cost taxpayers $87 billion per year. That is over 30 percent more than the Cato Institute's 1997 corporate welfare estimate of $65 billion. If corporate welfare were eliminated tomorrow, the federal government could provide taxpayers with an annual tax cut more than twice as large as the tax rebate checks mailed out in 2001.
President Bush's first proposed budget recommends about $12 billion in total corporate welfare cuts. Most notable are the proposed cuts for the Advanced Technology Program, the Export-Import Bank, the Overseas Private Investment Corporation, the Maritime Administration's guaranteed loan program, and the Small Business Administration. However, the Bush budget proposal also increases some of the largest corporate welfare programs, such as federal aid to oil companies through the fossil energy research and development program and research subsidies to aerospace companies as well as increases for the National Agricultural Statistics Service, the Foreign Agriculture Service, and the Conservation Reserve Program."
So our government can spend money on keeping corperations alive with welfare but it cant spend this same money to go over to south central LA and give venture capital to some minorities who want to start new businesses for their communities?
Its stupid.
http://w3.access.gpo.gov/usbudget/fy2001/guide0
Even without using sourcecode just describing how it works is illegal, you'll be sued and fined
yes this is not as bad as China but you dont have any more freedom than China the only difference is their punishments are more harsh.
China has stayed to itself for centuries, wasnt involved in any of the world wars, isnt out taking over the world, but China could do so if they wanted to.
911 only happened because we were in their country getting involved in their fight with isreal which has been going on for thousands of years.
I didnt say we deserved it, but isreal doesnt deserve the support we give it either, we are playing politics by picking a side in a never ending war, and this is why we get attacked by the other side.
If I see you fighting with someone and I give your enemy a knife, of course you are going to punch me in the face.
We arent the only bad in the world, every other country is bad too, the problem is we are spreading ourselves all over and other countries who dont want anything to do with us have to deal with us going to their countries telling them what to do, they have to deal with us giving their enemies weapons and intelligence on them, and deal with our companies exploiting their natural resources.
If China decided to flood us with millions of Chinese immigrants and the Chinese slowly consumed and took over the whole USA, taking all of the businesses, changing the flag eventually to the Chinese flag, and changing the whole culture of the USA to the point where the USA becomes part of China, how would you like it?
Thats what we do to other countries.
We dont even need oil anymore, we have more efficient cheaper almost free energy. The only reason oil is used is because oil companies want us to buy oil, the only reason iraq is so popular lately is because Bush has stock in oil companies,
Businesses run this country, its not about the economy at all, its about big business. Big businesses are actually bad for the economy because small businesses actually are the backbone of any economy.
"all so that you can not pay the artist for their time when you download a song or movie off a P2P network.
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I'd pay the artist for their time, I just wont pay for the art itself. Big difference between a service and intellectual property.
I do not believe in intellectual property PERIOD.
Since I live poor right now I can tell you the solution. The solution to poverty is better schools and economic development.
How can this be done? First give more venture capital to people who want to start business in these areas, the government should set it up so venture capital is not given all to one spot like silicon valley.
Private and Public schools should have residential options, this means kids who are being raised by 1 parent in a bad enviornment should be able to go to a residential school, they should qualify for residential school based on need, if you are a kid with only one parent and you dont make alot of money, you should be able to go to a residential school where you will have teachers teaching you 24/7, you will be in a good enviornment with role models and have a proper safe childhood, you go home on the weekends or whenever your parents decide to pick you up and take you. (I was in a residential school for a year so I know from experience)
" They are working to fix the problem, but it's not about money. It's about changing culture. It's about changing families. "
Families? The problem is lack of family, too many single parents, children who come home to empty houses because the one parent is working 2 jobs and cant raise their kids properly. Lack of positive influence and role models, etc, its not a culture issue because you put this same kid in the proper enviornment and they will do fine, the problem is money. When you work 2 jobs you do not have time to teach your kid anything, your kid has no guide, you are never around enough to help them, the school your kid goes to if it sucks your kid wont learn anything, and the only option left really is the streets because your kid comes home to an empty house.
The first issue is proper education, residential schools solves this, the second solution is economic development, by spending money in the proper fashion it will create jobs so that kids who dont have any money can work a legit job instead of be forced into selling drugs or doing something stupid, venture capitalist funding should be placed in these areas, and businesses should be started, I think this could all be fixed within a generation if people started building residential schools now, if they started throwing money into the actual community and not give money away to welfare, and instead of the boys and girls club, kids should be able to live on campus at school, our tax dollars should pay for this for parents who cannot afford to pay, and for parents who can afford to pay they can continue working 2 jobs and pay.
Also getting married is not a solution, if you think it is, guess what, 70 percent of people who get married end up getting divorced, so eventually the same situation will end up happening anyway, instead of promoting getting married we should just set things up in a way so that a single parent can raise kids in this society.
You cannot expect people to get married and stay married when statistics clearly show that the majority of people who get married divorce. You can stop teen pregnancy, residential schools would make it damn hard for children to get pregnant because if you are a parent you could put them in an all girl school.
Yes strong families is one solution but its not a realistic solution, a more realistic solution is to adapt the system to support single parent families.
If we spent the billions of dollars we spend on helping other countries on helping build residential schools and bring jobs into the poorest communities, people in these communities would at least be more educated and when growing up they will at least have the OPTION to stay out of trouble, these kids will also have the CHANCE of getting a job when they finally do grow up, because if your only option after your highschool diploma is mc donalds, you'd make more money selling drugs, until you give them other options, legit options so people can get certifed in something and have a legit job at a local business in their community, theres not really many options after highschool. College? sure they can go to college but if they went to shitty highschools chances are they arent going to be thinking about college.
How can I say all this stuff? I grew up in a single parent home, poor as hell in a cheap apartment, and now I'm in college, I know exactly what the problems were from EXPERIENCE, I know what helped me, so I know the solutions. Culture has less to do with it, its more about enviornment, you put someone of any culture in a bad enviornment and dont give them any way out of it (shitty public schools) these people might not know anything else but the streets, me? I got lucky and had access to the internet, I taught myself things which the school did not teach me, its all about havinng the resources to be successful, with no resources at all and a bad enviornment on top of that, your chances of success are slim.
So thats still censorship, you can re-word it any way you like, it doesnt matter if the governments censoring me, or the creator of something is censoring me, i'm censored and i dont like it.
Whats the difference? When you are on a computer which is essentially a machine which doesnt distribute physical objects but information, if you tell someone they cannot copy and then send out information you are denying their freedom of speech.
Its not physical objects likee you keep trying to say it is, its not a ferrari, its not a ham sandwich which only one person gets to eat, its information.
IF i cannot share information with you because of somee stupid DMCA, thats removing my freedom of speech.
I do not consider this post intellectual propery because I do not believe information can be owned, its not a physical thing. Owning information is like trying to own the air and charge for it. Its a stupid worthless idea in the first place.
Not the same logic, stealing a ferrari is taking something which is actually physically there.
Wares are not physical, software are 1s and 0s, not a physical object like a ferrari, there can only be one farrari, you cannot copy a farrari and share it with a friend, if i steal your ferarri then you lose something.
If i download a file and then send a copy of it to someone else, no one loses anything but someone gains something.
What intellectual propery? A post on the internet can never be owned by anyone, its free information.
Just like I dont own the answer to a math problem that i happen to solve, well at least not in my opinion, but someone else may believe they own the patent on math.
What happens when all the patents are owned? then the same patents hold back progress.
If the same person saying you shouldnt do something is doing it themselves whats that say?
Remember being a kid and your parents said "dont drink, dont smoke, dont do drugs" but they did it right in front of you? It kinda makes you just ignore anything they say and rebel.
This is how the USA sounds, like the parents of the world telling the world what they can and cannot do.
How is it different? The record companies hold a monopoly, they are no different than government.
The record companies, Microsoft, or any of these big giant companies, they are just like government, they tax you for stuff you dont even need like Microsoft Windows coming with your PC even if you dont want it, or record companies trying to rob you and musicians at the same time with $30 cds.
So because our government is Capitalist somehow we are immune to the problems China has? Hell no, we have the same problems, we are run by big business and China is run by elite government officials, both of us however are not run by the people.
No one in the USA but these big businesses want intellectual property. I dont know ANYONE who thinks napster and file sharing should be illegal, I dont know a single sick person who wants their medicine to cost x10 more money because of patents, and I dont know anyone in general who makes money from patents, even musicians i know make most of their money from concerts.
The only people making money from the patent and intellectual property industry are fakes like britney spears and guys in suits who sit around bossing people but who have no purpose.
We are a democracy right? I'll believe it when file sharing and marijuana are made legal.
Theres starving kids here. Theres homeless kids here , Families in fact are homeless here. Theres kids growing up with a single parent here in ghettos filled with drugs and whore houses, why give money to people in etheopia or anywhere else when people HERE are on welfare, people here need help, its funny how a republican office can hate welfare, but when its supporting their Agenda suddenly its ok. When American Airlines was attacked Bush steped in with the corperate bailout work 20 billion. When we destroyed afganastan, we now spend billions a year on economic development,
if we attack Iraq its going to cost us billions a year.
We dont even spend 1 billion a year on welfare but Republicans complain like welfare is draining every penny out of their pockets, they dont want to help homeless people in this country yet we spend billions each year helpinng homeless people in Africa. We dont protect our own borders yet we have thousands of troops protecting the korean border. What the fuck?! when are we going to stop policing the world, and become America again instead of the world government that we are trying to be?
Thats why we keep getting attacked by terrorists, we spread ourselves thin and focus everywhere but where we should focus.
I see people bash China left and right, constantly, but I never see anyone of these people Bash the USA.
We all know the USA is not perfect so what gives us the right to Bash China as if we are better or something?
Ok I understand us Bashing the taliban, but China?
http://www.pigdog.org/decss/source/decss_mirror.ht ml
http://www.sharereactor.com/
oh lets not forget about all the illegal sites like hacking/security sites which I'm not even allowed to legally LINK to.
And what about that site with the illegal Microsoft Windows 2000 Beta source code?
If all of these sites China was censoring were protected by the DMCA, and there was source code or illegal files on them, suddenly its ok to censor it!
Are we complaining about China because they are Chinese or because of their so called censorship?
China isnt the country locking people up for sharing files, in fact up until recently it was perfectly legal to share your files, they had freedom of speech in that area until WE the so called freedom loving Americans forced them to adopt our censorship laws to protect our intellectual propery from the evil warez pirates of China who cant afford to buy our software anyway.
Its funny how we complain about every nation, China, Afganastan, Pakistan, Iraq, everywhere but if anyone dares complain about the USA they are unAmerican.
I expect to get flamed by a bunch of patriots who will tell me that America is not a country of hypocrites but if you look throughout history, this country was founded by hypocrites who said it was all about freedom, freedom to enslave millions of people and rob the natives of all their land?
So should the masses have absolute freedom of speech? No more DMCA? Or should the elite few people who happen to have some kinda intellectual propery, should these people have freedom to protect it?
I think considering 95 percent of us dont own any intellectual propery, why should we try so hard to protect it? It reduces our freedom.