homosexuals were in this exact same situation at one point. Homosexuals were considered rapists, people would kill them because everyone was homophobic and thought they would rape them or their children.
When I was your age, I too liked girls my own age.
Of course, theres been situaitons where people as young as you were punished for looking at people the same age as them. This is why i think the laws are too extreme.
Someone your age cant buy the porn, so you arent fueling the industry, so you cant do any harm, also these are girls in your own age range.
Everyone has fantasies, EVERYONE here in slashdot and in the world, has some kinda fantasy somehow.
What gives us the right to freely express our fantasies, but they cant?
Its almost like the situation with gays, should gay porn sites be outlawed because it promotes homosexuality and decreases the population?
bullshit like that shows the ignorance of the lawmakers of the USA
Its not porn which makes a person gay, they are BORN that way, and if you hate them and try to force them to not be gay, it will push them over the edge
Face it, theres always going to be people who are attracted to little kids, we need to figure out a way to prevent them from harming kids, we cant ever change them or make them stop being them.
I mean its almost like saying all gay people are likely to rape straight males because its in their nature, and the porn will provoke them to do so.
Or saying if women are exposed to porn, they will be more likely to cheat on their husband
Damn why not just outlaw all porn, I mean according to some people porn will make us all turn into rapists
From my experience from the net, I learned alot of people have alot of strange fetishes, which i just dont understand and am not capable of understanding
Homosexuality, Beastiality, Scat, Pissing and other weird shit
Because I might consider it sick, doesnt mean i can disrespect a person who is into this stuff, when a large number of people are into this kinda thing, you may not agree with them, but as long as they arent harming anyone, leave them alone.
I dont care if gay guys want to be gay, as long as they arent trying to rape me or rape little boys.
I dont care if people are into beastiality, although i feel sorry for the animals.
I dont care what people do, or how they get off, no matter how weird because as long as they dont harm me, or anyone else, then its their private business.
The point im trying to get accross is, you cant say "this person is sick" or "this person is evil" just because they have strange fantasies,
You can only say they are a pedophile after they abuse a child, you can only call a rapist a rapist after they commit the crime of rape, you cannot call a someone a rapist just because they may get off watching pictures of virtual rape porn.
Ted Bundy? Hes a fucking murderer, whats this have to do with porn?!
Murder has nothing to do with Sex, they arent the same, perhaps Ted Bundy was a pervert, but it was his hatred that allows him to murder.
Its rage that fuels rape, its control that fuels abuse of children.
Control Freaks, Rageful people, and just generally aggressive people are likely to commit rape and murder with or without porn, Ted Bundy needed to use the porn excuse so people wouldnt put all the blame on him.
90+ percent of the world looks at porn, are we all going out raping and murdering people?
And out of that 90 percent, alot of us have fantasies which alot of people would consider, "sick"
Child porn is an unusual fantasy. But everyone has the right to any fantasy they want no matter what it is, and everyone has the right to express it, virtual porn allows people who fantasize about something to express it.
By expressing it in the virtual world they are less likely to express it using real children.
Yeah so the reason we have male rapists, is because all of this porn is making males more likely to rape women and making women more likely to become sluts, because it feeds them?
Bullshit, its because of the porn that people can release their sexual tension in the privacy of their home, instead of outside in public on people.
Without porn, rape would be alot more common than it is, and women would sleep around alot more often.
Guys who like girls, or women, they are horny, their option, go find a random girl and rape her, or go to a porn site.
We have these options, we are perverts too, why should WE have porn, but they shouldnt?
Porn keeps my hormones in check, I'm not a rapist and never will be because I'm not an aggressive person, however I'm sure i'd be ALOT more perverted toward women if I were horny all the damn time due to porn sites being illegal.
Think about the logic, we use porn to control us, not every male who likes women is a rapist.
Same goes for pedophiles, not every pedophile is the type who will rape children.
but by making them horny 24/7 by giving them no release, it raises the chances their hormones will be out of control and they may be drunk one day and do something stupid.
The best way to protect children is to give an outlet to the perverts who want child pornography or who create it, a legal outlet which harms no one, virtual child porn may be the answer.
Theres no way you can ever rid the world of these people, they will always exsist, and taking away their virtual porn would make them create more child porn or worse, rape and abuse children.
So in the best interest of the children, Virtual Porn should be legal.
Virtual porn directly takes money away from the REAL child porn industry, and that is key to stopping child porn.
Imagine connecting your mp3 player to a vending likee machine and downloading the song of your choice for 25 cents, it might just work as a business model.
of course record companies are too stupid to change their business model
THIS is the answer, Id gladly pay 20 cents a song A. if the money goes directly to musicians and only musicians
B. If i have the right to distribute the songs in a non commercial way.
Think of it this way, like software, I want music to be free, not free in price, but in freedom. GNU music, think of it that way.
I'd gladly pay for mp3s if musicians set it up via paypal or whatever 20 cents a song, I swear to everything holy that if it were setup this way, I would have no reason to rip musicians off using napster.
When i use napster like products (Im not saying I actually do but lets pretend I do) I use it to rip off the record companies, the fake musicians like nsync and britney spears, you know what i mean?
Same reason I dont think most people would pay for photoshop is why most people dont pay for music.
All who agree with me, please comment positive confirmation.
I'm sure theres certain people here who disagree, I'd like your comments to, If you look at my posts from my history, I'm someone who likes to debate about this stuff, and I have an opinion that information should be free, I guess I'm a GNU zealot and im not ashamed to admit it.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Read
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the sta tes respectively, or to the people
Lets take a look at the famous 2 rights. Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Amendment III
The right to a militia. A militia? Militias are known as terrorists, gangs, mobsters, and cults. While not all militias are evil, do you really want to be defended by these people? Or law government law enforcement?
The fact that we have police officers at all is a violation of the constitution is it not? Or at least it is according to you.
The right to free speech, free religion, etc, IF i say my religion is open source, and I claim 1s and 0s copied from an mp3 file are an extention or expression of my speech, what the fuck is copyright?! Copyright is against the constitution which is to protect expression and speech, along with religion. If my religion is a sharing free information based religion, why can i go to jail by sharing information?
So yes, you say everyone always follows the constitution, news flash, they dont, they havent for years, the constitution is more like guidelines which our goverment and states choose to follow when its in their own best interest. They dont follow it when its against the interests of certain big corperations, or when its against the interests of themselves.
Telling me the states dont decide, isnt changing the fact that they do decide.
Gun laws are diffrent in diffrent states, according to the constitution, anyone should be able to buy a gun all the time because its their absolute RIGHT and its essential for security.
Funny how police can carry guns which we cant even buy, police can do the job our militias, gangs, and mafia are supposed to do according to the constitution.
The decision isnt up to me? I think of it this way, the way things are now they arent honoring the constitution, instead of fighting them, I'm going to just go along with it.
They wont let me go buy heavy duty machine guns, wheres my local military with bomb shelters, fort, machine guns, bombs and tanks? Oh yeah, we dont have any militia in the city! Only people in the Idaho and places like that have militias, in the city we have to rely on the police, they dont even let us arm ourselves
So what other option is there in these states? We have to give the police more weapons.
Unlike you i think for myself, i dont need teachers to tell me what to think.
I never said "CHANGE" the constitution, cant you read?
I said on a state by state basis people can decide how much they wish to follow the constitution, this is fair for everyone, not everyone wants to worship the constitution
The constitution is no written for you to blindly follow it, its written to let you know what laws to keep when you change
change is neccessary for us to evolve as a society.
I said keep privacy, the right to bare arms however, we should decide how much privacy, what weapons we wish to make legal, etc
If we cant ever decide on anything and just follow the past, we lose out in the long run, the evolution of society ceases to exsist due to people like you who want to follow the past exactly, I'm sure you still believe in slavery and so on and so forth.
Whatever, Yes I value the constitution, but I believe each one of us has the right to value it as much or as little as we want. I'm glad you arent president.
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Transgaming needs to make money, why dont you subcribe and help them RELEASE their code if you want it so bad.
Transgaming doesnt sell software, you subscribe to a service which funds development of the software.
The software is free, however they CANT release the binary version of wine because it uses securerom and other licensed code.
They cant release the 3d game code because not enough users subscribed to pay for it.
Nothing is being sold, you subscribe to pay for the development of the code when transgaming can pay for that development the code is released to you
Because people who are angry need an outlet, better to play quake and blow people away than to do it for real.
Theres been times where i'd play games and kill characters and fantasize about it being someone who pissed me off.
I can say anyone whos got diffrent fetishes than me is sick.
Someone who wants to have sex with guys I can say is sick, someone who has sex with animals i can say is sick.
You arent proving your point logically.
homosexuals were in this exact same situation at one point. Homosexuals were considered rapists, people would kill them because everyone was homophobic and thought they would rape them or their children.
When I was your age, I too liked girls my own age.
Of course, theres been situaitons where people as young as you were punished for looking at people the same age as them. This is why i think the laws are too extreme.
Someone your age cant buy the porn, so you arent fueling the industry, so you cant do any harm, also these are girls in your own age range.
I'd say only 40 percent of the population are what you call normal
The rest are gay, bi, or have some strange fetish.
So basically you are saying
"I dont understand people who like child porn, they arent normal and should seek help so that they can become normal like me"
Just because you dont understand them, doesnt mean you shouldnt respect them
Seeking help is not going to change them
This sounds almost like how people treated homosexuality
First it was evil and people would be killed for it
Then people were told to seek help
Finally its understood that these people are being who they arent and you cant change them, you just have to learn to accept people who are diffrent.
Now, I dont agree with everyone, but as long as they do no harm, they deserve respect.
No its not, because most gay people dont harm straight people,
Sure a few of them rape straight guys and little boys
This is only a few. Not all.
People who have a facination with kiddie porn, may not be the type of person to rape a child
So we should hate them because of what they are?
No, we can only hate them for what they do.
IF they arent harming anyone with their private activities, why should we bother them?
Who gives you the right to tell them "You are wrong"
And even if you do, its not going to change them.
I'm sure you've looked at porn, and you want to have sex with women more now and you cant control yourself anymore
So how many women have you raped? Answer my question.
What people dont understand is
Everyone has fantasies, EVERYONE here in slashdot and in the world, has some kinda fantasy somehow.
What gives us the right to freely express our fantasies, but they cant?
Its almost like the situation with gays, should gay porn sites be outlawed because it promotes homosexuality and decreases the population?
bullshit like that shows the ignorance of the lawmakers of the USA
Its not porn which makes a person gay, they are BORN that way, and if you hate them and try to force them to not be gay, it will push them over the edge
Face it, theres always going to be people who are attracted to little kids, we need to figure out a way to prevent them from harming kids, we cant ever change them or make them stop being them.
I mean its almost like saying all gay people are likely to rape straight males because its in their nature, and the porn will provoke them to do so.
Or saying if women are exposed to porn, they will be more likely to cheat on their husband
Damn why not just outlaw all porn, I mean according to some people porn will make us all turn into rapists
From my experience from the net, I learned alot of people have alot of strange fetishes, which i just dont understand and am not capable of understanding
Homosexuality, Beastiality, Scat, Pissing and other weird shit
Because I might consider it sick, doesnt mean i can disrespect a person who is into this stuff, when a large number of people are into this kinda thing, you may not agree with them, but as long as they arent harming anyone, leave them alone.
I dont care if gay guys want to be gay, as long as they arent trying to rape me or rape little boys.
I dont care if people are into beastiality, although i feel sorry for the animals.
I dont care what people do, or how they get off, no matter how weird because as long as they dont harm me, or anyone else, then its their private business.
The point im trying to get accross is, you cant say "this person is sick" or "this person is evil" just because they have strange fantasies,
You can only say they are a pedophile after they abuse a child, you can only call a rapist a rapist after they commit the crime of rape, you cannot call a someone a rapist just because they may get off watching pictures of virtual rape porn.
Ted Bundy? Hes a fucking murderer, whats this have to do with porn?!
Murder has nothing to do with Sex, they arent the same, perhaps Ted Bundy was a pervert, but it was his hatred that allows him to murder.
Its rage that fuels rape, its control that fuels abuse of children.
Control Freaks, Rageful people, and just generally aggressive people are likely to commit rape and murder with or without porn, Ted Bundy needed to use the porn excuse so people wouldnt put all the blame on him.
90+ percent of the world looks at porn, are we all going out raping and murdering people?
And out of that 90 percent, alot of us have fantasies which alot of people would consider, "sick"
Child porn is an unusual fantasy. But everyone has the right to any fantasy they want no matter what it is, and everyone has the right to express it, virtual porn allows people who fantasize about something to express it.
By expressing it in the virtual world they are less likely to express it using real children.
Saying porn makes pedophiles abuse children is like saying Porn makes males rape women, or porn makes women turn into sluts.
People dont copy what they see in porn videos, they watch the porn video to fantasize about what they could never do in the real world.
its the people who dont look at porn that you need to worry about.
If it applies to kiddie porn it applies to ALL porn.
Kiddie porn is just one aspect of porn, theres alot of other fetishes people have.
So you are saying, porn is why theres rapists and the solution is to remove all porn?
Hahahaha funny, you think there would be less rapes if there were less porn? I think it would be the opposite.
Yeah so the reason we have male rapists, is because all of this porn is making males more likely to rape women and making women more likely to become sluts, because it feeds them?
Bullshit, its because of the porn that people can release their sexual tension in the privacy of their home, instead of outside in public on people.
Without porn, rape would be alot more common than it is, and women would sleep around alot more often.
Guys who like girls, or women, they are horny, their option, go find a random girl and rape her, or go to a porn site.
We have these options, we are perverts too, why should WE have porn, but they shouldnt?
Porn keeps my hormones in check, I'm not a rapist and never will be because I'm not an aggressive person, however I'm sure i'd be ALOT more perverted toward women if I were horny all the damn time due to porn sites being illegal.
Think about the logic, we use porn to control us, not every male who likes women is a rapist.
Same goes for pedophiles, not every pedophile is the type who will rape children.
but by making them horny 24/7 by giving them no release, it raises the chances their hormones will be out of control and they may be drunk one day and do something stupid.
The best way to protect children is to give an outlet to the perverts who want child pornography or who create it, a legal outlet which harms no one, virtual child porn may be the answer.
Theres no way you can ever rid the world of these people, they will always exsist, and taking away their virtual porn would make them create more child porn or worse, rape and abuse children.
So in the best interest of the children, Virtual Porn should be legal.
Virtual porn directly takes money away from the REAL child porn industry, and that is key to stopping child porn.
If people can use virtual child porn they wont need to use real children, this will protect alot of children.
The point of child pornography laws is to keep the porn industry from exploiting children.
No children are exploited in virtual porn, so it should be legal, its harmless and if anything protects children in the long run.
The arguement people who are against virtual porn will use is "Its bad to feed the perverts any form of child pornography"
problem is, these people will always exsist, and its better for them to get off to fake child porn, than REAL child porn.
Wrong = Exploiting children
However nothing is wrong with virtual child porn or
any other form of expression as long as no one is harmed
People should be free to express themselves anyway they want
Virtual child porn isnt harming any chilren so it should be legal.
In fact it will protect children because children wont need to be harmed anymore due to the virtual child porn.
Imagine connecting your mp3 player to a vending likee machine and downloading the song of your choice for 25 cents, it might just work as a business model.
of course record companies are too stupid to change their business model
THIS is the answer, Id gladly pay 20 cents a song
A. if the money goes directly to musicians and only musicians
B. If i have the right to distribute the songs in a non commercial way.
Think of it this way, like software, I want music to be free, not free in price, but in freedom. GNU music, think of it that way.
I'd gladly pay for mp3s if musicians set it up via paypal or whatever 20 cents a song, I swear to everything holy that if it were setup this way, I would have no reason to rip musicians off using napster.
When i use napster like products (Im not saying I actually do but lets pretend I do)
I use it to rip off the record companies, the fake musicians like nsync and britney spears, you know what i mean?
Same reason I dont think most people would pay for photoshop is why most people dont pay for music.
All who agree with me, please comment positive confirmation.
I'm sure theres certain people here who disagree, I'd like your comments to, If you look at my posts from my history, I'm someone who likes to debate about this stuff, and I have an opinion that information should be free, I guess I'm a GNU zealot and im not ashamed to admit it.
Amendment X [Rights Reserved to States]
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Read
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the sta
tes respectively, or to the people
Lets take a look at the famous 2 rights.
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Amendment III
The right to a militia. A militia? Militias are known as terrorists, gangs, mobsters, and cults. While not all militias are evil, do you really want to be defended by these people? Or law government law enforcement?
The fact that we have police officers at all is a violation of the constitution is it not? Or at least it is according to you.
The right to free speech, free religion, etc, IF i say my religion is open source, and I claim 1s and 0s copied from an mp3 file are an extention or expression of my speech, what the fuck is copyright?! Copyright is against the constitution which is to protect expression and speech, along with religion. If my religion is a sharing free information based religion, why can i go to jail by sharing information?
So yes, you say everyone always follows the constitution, news flash, they dont, they havent for years, the constitution is more like guidelines which our goverment and states choose to follow when its in their own best interest. They dont follow it when its against the interests of certain big corperations, or when its against the interests of themselves.
Telling me the states dont decide, isnt changing the fact that they do decide.
Gun laws are diffrent in diffrent states, according to the constitution, anyone should be able to buy a gun all the time because its their absolute RIGHT and its essential for security.
Funny how police can carry guns which we cant even buy, police can do the job our militias, gangs, and mafia are supposed to do according to the constitution.
The decision isnt up to me? I think of it this way, the way things are now they arent honoring the constitution, instead of fighting them, I'm going to just go along with it.
They wont let me go buy heavy duty machine guns, wheres my local military with bomb shelters, fort, machine guns, bombs and tanks? Oh yeah, we dont have any militia in the city! Only people in the Idaho and places like that have militias, in the city we have to rely on the police, they dont even let us arm ourselves
So what other option is there in these states? We have to give the police more weapons.
Unlike you i think for myself, i dont need teachers to tell me what to think.
I never said "CHANGE" the constitution, cant you read?
I said on a state by state basis people can decide how much they wish to follow the constitution, this is fair for everyone, not everyone wants to worship the constitution
The constitution is no written for you to blindly follow it, its written to let you know what laws to keep when you change
change is neccessary for us to evolve as a society.
I said keep privacy, the right to bare arms however, we should decide how much privacy, what weapons we wish to make legal, etc
If we cant ever decide on anything and just follow the past, we lose out in the long run, the evolution of society ceases to exsist due to people like you who want to follow the past exactly, I'm sure you still believe in slavery and so on and so forth.
Whatever, Yes I value the constitution, but I believe each one of us has the right to value it as much or as little as we want. I'm glad you arent president.