The RIAA killed napster because it threanted to change the system, change the laws, and advance technology.
You see, our government doesnt want the system to ever change, but a system has to adapt or it will become obsolete.
We are using a system thats thousands of years old, from back in the times of rome, its advanced very little sense then, we have been given freedom of speech and other freedoms however our laws dont fully follow, copyright for example is not even constitutional because its a form of censorship.
Face it, we have been moving backwards not forwards. Until we as a society advance, all the technology inn the world wont help us.
The gov and RIAA should have embraced napster, napster is what the people want, its the new technology, instead they tried to kill it.
Now nano technology is being threatened. The reason? It, like napster will change the system completely, but unlike napster which only changes the music system, nano technology would completely change the whole economic system of the world.
So, will governments do whats good for the people, or whats good for them?
If old laws worked fine people wouldnt be using napster,
No one wants the old laws anymore, except the RIAA and maybe you.
Most people want to either get rid of copyright, or tone it down a bit
Lets think of copyright in the nano technology world.
Imagine us telling some poor people "No, you cannot materialize your food, the apple is under copyright by FruitCo, you can just starve to death but you wont be breaking this law!"
Or "No you cannot use your brain to computer interface to share such thoughts, these thoughts are patented!"
You see, technology will make these laws seem like a joke. Laws have to adapt and change with technology, you cant have 200-300 year old laws with technology which is designed to make those laws obsolete.
Its kinda like, if someone created software which generated all of the best possible music compositions, then the software creator patents it and copyrights everything, this guy now owns all the best music.
Thats just BS, as technology moves fowards, laws should adapt, society should adapt, its the only way we will survive.
Or else you'll just create more terrorists as the gap between the rich and poor widens, and the haves and have nots widen, these have nots will have nano technology but due to your laws wont be able to live like kings like you can, they'll become terrorists.
Look at napster if you dont believe it will happen.
We are educated commputer users here on slashdot, you dont see any of us getting infected by the computer virus, you see dumb people who dont understand computers getting infected.
The solution to this problem is to educate all computer users, and no one will get infected by virii.
The same solution works for Nano Technology, Kids should be learning about nano technology in highschool.
We need highschool reform badly, kids are still being taught einstiens theories, most kids dont even know about super string theory, neither do most adults,
You cant teach kids from text books that are 30 years old or older.
Kids shouldnt even be learning from text books, kids should learn to learn, and learn to teach, I didnt learn this in public school, however i went to an alternative school which taught in this manner and thats where i learned to think for myself.
Our schools create zombies who USE technology which they dont understand.
Schools must change big time, technology shouldnt be slowed down because the RIAA and copyright laws dont know how to handle it, laws must change, the RIAA must adapt or go out of business.
Its that simple, if people want to share music via napster, you cant hold back the technology, the best thing you can do is change the laws to adapt to it.
Old people running this country dont understand change, they dont know how to adapt, thats the problem with having all old people in the government.
You and I see nano technology as a way to extend our lives and make our lives better.
Nano Technology is good, I support it, i think we should be spending hundreds of billions on nano technology and things like it.
We also should be spending hundreds of billions on reforming the school system.
Theres always ignorant people, the problem with public schools, the current system isnt built to create mature intelligent thinkers, its built to create good hard workers who respect authority.
Thats good for a labor based society where you can be dumb as hell as long as you obey orders. As society changes to a more intellectual society, we need to teach children to think for themselves. we need to redesign school in a way so that it teaches them to think for themselves.
College seems modern in this respect but highschool and middleschool need complete reform, kids are just doing work from text books and following scripts,
you dont learn by following the script, you learn by creating the script.
What we need to teach in schools now, responsibility, maturity, the ability to think for yourself, the ability to teach yourself and teach others, and the ability to learn from others.
Ways to do this, Set up the school system so that students teach other students, set up the school system so students are often required to learn about something on their own without being guided by any teacher, get rid of tests and exams and use the portfolio system which judges a student by the quality of the results of their work and not how many small facts they memorize, and last, give the children state of the art technology, let highschool kids learn and do experiments with nano technology, let them learn about bio tech in highschool if they choose.
By putting more money into the school system it will allow schools to buy the equipment needed to teach kids about these very important and dangerous technologies.
If we keep doing things the way we do it now, we will create a bunch of drones who cant think for themselves, and eventually some intelligent terrorist will decide to attack us with a nano virus and no one will be smart enough to defend themselves from it.
Instead by educated everyone about nano technology, everyone will be able to develop ways ot defend themselves from it, even if this means everyone creates various nano anti virii or develops a way to completely destroy nano bots such as EMP fields
Education and Research is the key, we should be spending the majority of our money on this.
In my previous post i mentioned how our government spends very little on nano technology. The reason is most people arent ready for even computer technology. Look at our laws and how our government and copyright system refuses to change with the technology.
Old laws dont work anymore, its time to change.
This is exactly why we need to educate the people to a much higher standard. Most of our money should be on building much better schools, we need a complete reform of the school system so school creates people who are free thinkers instead of bots who work in an office.
More and more, our mental abilities will matter.
Nano technology is good, we should put hundreds of billions of dollars into this, but if we are to accept these advances in technology we must advance socially as well..
No more wars. No more creating terrorists (like bin laden)
We need to find a way to handle oppressed people in the third world, so they dont all become terrorists.
I'm personally ready for nano technology, I think alot of people on slashdot may be ready, but your average idiot is not ready.
I'm hoping, if we spend vast amounts of money on education, it will cause less people to be ignorant, In a society filled with nano technolgy we cannot tolerate ignorance anymore, a KKK member will be able to destroy all minorities in an instant, a Nazi will be able to destroy all jews in an instant.
The only thing we can do, is educate ignorant people in such a way that they are less likely to do stupid things.
Some people we wont be able to educate at all, but at least by building better schools we give it a shot.
we should begin terraforming mars right now, then we can go to europa and see if we discover any aliens under the ice, after that, we can begin building on mars to prepare for when we need to move to mars (or want to move there)
Welfare reform (our way of giving up on the unemployed)
We have state by state homeless solutions, some have none, some states have homeless shelters, the federal government doesnt solve this.
According to most republicans and capitalists, its every man for himself, no helping the homeless, no taxes at all etc.
Its up to the people, while the people voted for gore, bush is president, bush cut taxes by about a trillion dollars, most of this money is taken from welfare, helping the homeless, social security and other freebies and put into the military
Wouldnt work would it, rap is sold to more whites than blacks, the NBA is owned by whites, and NIKE is owned by and sold to mostly whites.
So what you'd have is rich CEOs, and middle class teenagers in the suburbs, along with a few atheletes payinng for the majority of the welfare and foodstamp market.
he who makes the majority of the money, pays the majority of the taxes.
Than we do on the NASA budget Than we do on welfare Than we do on building schools.
Hell we spend more money bailing airport companies out than we do on schools, whats more important than schools?
In my opinions our priorities are all wrong, because dumbasses in our government dont know how to spend money properly, this goes for both the republicans and democrates.
Our money should go to technology, healthcare, schools.
Technology will allow us to live better, Healthcare will allow us to live longer, School will allow us to have the intelligence to actually live without destroying ourselves.
Now how much money is being spent on technology? well nano technology got less than 100 million, we spent less than 100 million searching for vaccines for aids and cures for cancer, we spent around 20 billion for public schools but what we really need is complete reform, and doubled budget so schools use all the latest technology to bring kids into the digital age.
instead, 20 billion goes to airports in a bailout, tax cuts all over the place but the military budget is increased with next to none of this budget being used for homeland defense.
Its almost insane that we spend almost a trillion a year on the military (most of the budget) all of these nuclear bombs and secret weapons, yet not a single bomb shelter, no way to stop a biological attack, no way to stop nuclear attacks, no way to stop terrorist attacks like 911.
We have absolutely no defense, the best our government does is warn us and we can only hope our under funded local law enforcement can handle the situation.
ALot of people especially people from slashdot say tax cuts are good, my question to these people, Do you all have bomb shelters? How will you survive a nuclear terrorist attack?
So if we lower taxes it just means more money gets put into stupid programs that we dont want or need, or programs we dont know about.
Perhaps anti tax slashdotters and anti government types have a solution for terrorism?
Not only that, but will we ever go to mars? I doubt it, it would be too expensive to do so for about another 20 years, and the more tax cuts, the less likely we will ever venture out into space in this lifetime.
NASAs budget is insanely small, The Nano Technology budget is insanely small The Science & R&D research budgets are too small, the ones which arent too small are classified government projects which we wont know about for about 20 years or the next war.
The problem isnt that we spend too much on taxes, the problem is, the money we spend on taxes we have no control over, perhaps if we were given control, taxes could be raised and no one would care.
Perhaps we need a system to allow us to control where the tax money goes. So that I can pay all my taxes to a certain thing, like bomb shelters and schools.
I dont want to fund the war on iraq, the attack on south korea, vietnam or any other pointless war our government throws us into.
I certainly dont want to fund some secret project i know nothing about.
The solution is to fund all government programslike that.
Why should we be forced to have our money sent to airport companies for a bailout? We spent 20 billion dollars bailing them out!
You are right, interest should decide how much is spent on where, however we dont have a true democracy, we are a republic and thats going against the nature of the government itself.
You allow US to decide where the money goes, and most of the people in the government and congress will be out of a job.
Everytime you buy army toy figures you fund a bomb made to blow people up.
I'm ok with funding NASA like this but only if everything else was funded like this too.
If NASA is the only thing thats funded like this it seems like another trick to redirect resources.
Bush used that trick, trillion dollar tax cut yet an increased military budget, increased spending, putting us in debt, oh and we lose out on stuff like social security.
Tax cuts are fine if we learn to use the money we have more efficiently. If not, tax cuts end up hurting us.
Yes make friends with the bully, share code, get a battlenet client for linux thats open and allows us to write plugins to it and patches and improve on it while also keeping the licensed part of the client closed source.
Same as what secure rom and transgaming have done.
Then who would care? The point here is NOT to connect to Blizzard's servers, but to be able to host our own. And if blizzard says no, Then you cant host it. Whats this court case about? You have the right to play the game, read the terms of agreement, it doesnt say you have the right to host a server!
Besides, your whole idea is based on the fact that Transgaming says they'd support battle.net. Who says Blizzard would agree to give them the information to do so anyway?Increased game sales from linux users, blizzard could also license the code and make a profit, companies like make profits, companies like good marketshare, companies also WANT you playing their games when you purchase them so you'll keep buying more. Blizzard would give out the technical details to keep us from building battlenetD, to keep linux users from boycotting them, and Because out of all the reasons I mentioned, neither you or I can think of a profitable or logical reason why they shouldnt give out the technical details or license the code if the product will be closed source anyway, securerom did it, EA did it, why shouldnt blizzard?
Anyway, what's the point then? I like the idea of BNetD because it means I can tweak the way things work in the games. If I want my item drops to be better, I can do it. If I want to make some of the enemies harder, I can do that too. If it's closed source, I may as well be using Blizzard's slow-as-hell servers.
I like the idea of BnetD, but thats not the point. The point is, right now we have no way to play starcraft AT ALL, period!
Future blizzard games like world of warcraft we have no way to play AT ALL.
By creating a seperate blizzard client you gain the benifit off something like jabber, instead of copying icq code for code, you just license the code from blizzard in the form of components snap it into the code.
Warcraft 3? Same client which can be themeable as well, native client instead of emulated so it will be faster, world of warcraft? no problem.
You see what im sayingg is we need an alternative battlenet client for linux.
Not an open source client, just a linux version off the windows client will do.
bNetD is good, i dont mind it, but honestly whats more important to a linux user, hosting servers for games, or actually playing them?
TRANSGAMING CAN USE BLIZZARDS CODE WHICH CHECKS THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE CD KEYS THAT CONNECT TO IT.
Thus Transgaming can solve blizzards piracy situation while offering BLIZZARDS battlenet.
So you see, Transgaming allows battlenet on linux, I never said an open source battlenet, I never said battlenet for Lans, I said blizzards battlenet. People would still connect to blizzards server!
Why not support trangaming? They will give Linux a closed source battlenet client, and problem solved!!!
I suggested to transgaming to support battlenet, however we need more votes to get it actually supported.
If all of these people worried about the open source battlenet would just give up their 15 bucks we'd have a closed source battlenet.
While I disagree with DMCA, and I agree with open source, sometimes closed source is the easier path to take in the short term. Lets just get some games working in linux damnit, fighting with game making companies only scares them away more!!! Cant you people see that?
This case should seriously be dropped, the team working on the open source battlenet should just make a closed source version instead and help the transgaming project.
This court case against the DMCA is going to lose and be a huge waste of time and money on both sides of the fence, we have the SSSCA and Lobbying politicians to worry about, honestly I think the reason game developers dont make games for linux is because people demand their games be open source.
Why fight these guys? Instead, we should be workingg together to bring games to linux.
So all of you who threaten to boycott, do yourself a favor and instead of boycotting, petition blizzard to port battlenet or to license the battleenet source code to transgaming, mandrake, or anyone willing to pay the price.
This will solve the problem because the binary can be released, we will be happy, they will be happy, transgaming will be happy because they'd get more subscribers.
This is my solution, I'm sure my Open Source Supporting Community may end up flaming me,
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The RIAA killed napster because it threanted to change the system, change the laws, and advance technology.
You see, our government doesnt want the system to ever change, but a system has to adapt or it will become obsolete.
We are using a system thats thousands of years old, from back in the times of rome, its advanced very little sense then, we have been given freedom of speech and other freedoms however our laws dont fully follow, copyright for example is not even constitutional because its a form of censorship.
Face it, we have been moving backwards not forwards. Until we as a society advance, all the technology inn the world wont help us.
The gov and RIAA should have embraced napster, napster is what the people want, its the new technology, instead they tried to kill it.
Now nano technology is being threatened. The reason? It, like napster will change the system completely, but unlike napster which only changes the music system, nano technology would completely change the whole economic system of the world.
So, will governments do whats good for the people, or whats good for them?
Old laws dont work just fine
Thats why no one agrees with them!
If old laws worked fine people wouldnt be using napster,
No one wants the old laws anymore, except the RIAA and maybe you.
Most people want to either get rid of copyright, or tone it down a bit
Lets think of copyright in the nano technology world.
Imagine us telling some poor people "No, you cannot materialize your food, the apple is under copyright by FruitCo, you can just starve to death but you wont be breaking this law!"
Or "No you cannot use your brain to computer interface to share such thoughts, these thoughts are patented!"
You see, technology will make these laws seem like a joke. Laws have to adapt and change with technology, you cant have 200-300 year old laws with technology which is designed to make those laws obsolete.
Its kinda like, if someone created software which generated all of the best possible music compositions, then the software creator patents it and copyrights everything, this guy now owns all the best music.
Thats just BS, as technology moves fowards, laws should adapt, society should adapt, its the only way we will survive.
Or else you'll just create more terrorists as the gap between the rich and poor widens, and the haves and have nots widen, these have nots will have nano technology but due to your laws wont be able to live like kings like you can, they'll become terrorists.
Look at napster if you dont believe it will happen.
Either we keep this system and alot of people are out of a job, or no one has to work anymore
We are educated commputer users here on slashdot, you dont see any of us getting infected by the computer virus, you see dumb people who dont understand computers getting infected.
The solution to this problem is to educate all computer users, and no one will get infected by virii.
The same solution works for Nano Technology, Kids should be learning about nano technology in highschool.
We need highschool reform badly, kids are still being taught einstiens theories, most kids dont even know about super string theory, neither do most adults,
You cant teach kids from text books that are 30 years old or older.
Kids shouldnt even be learning from text books, kids should learn to learn, and learn to teach, I didnt learn this in public school, however i went to an alternative school which taught in this manner and thats where i learned to think for myself.
Our schools create zombies who USE technology which they dont understand.
Schools must change big time, technology shouldnt be slowed down because the RIAA and copyright laws dont know how to handle it, laws must change, the RIAA must adapt or go out of business.
Its that simple, if people want to share music via napster, you cant hold back the technology, the best thing you can do is change the laws to adapt to it.
Old people running this country dont understand change, they dont know how to adapt, thats the problem with having all old people in the government.
Our government is obssessed with power.
Nano technology = the ultimate weapon
You and I see nano technology as a way to extend our lives and make our lives better.
Nano Technology is good, I support it, i think we should be spending hundreds of billions on nano technology and things like it.
We also should be spending hundreds of billions on reforming the school system.
Theres always ignorant people, the problem with public schools, the current system isnt built to create mature intelligent thinkers, its built to create good hard workers who respect authority.
Thats good for a labor based society where you can be dumb as hell as long as you obey orders. As society changes to a more intellectual society, we need to teach children to think for themselves. we need to redesign school in a way so that it teaches them to think for themselves.
College seems modern in this respect but highschool and middleschool need complete reform, kids are just doing work from text books and following scripts,
you dont learn by following the script, you learn by creating the script.
What we need to teach in schools now, responsibility, maturity, the ability to think for yourself, the ability to teach yourself and teach others, and the ability to learn from others.
Ways to do this, Set up the school system so that students teach other students, set up the school system so students are often required to learn about something on their own without being guided by any teacher, get rid of tests and exams and use the portfolio system which judges a student by the quality of the results of their work and not how many small facts they memorize, and last, give the children state of the art technology, let highschool kids learn and do experiments with nano technology, let them learn about bio tech in highschool if they choose.
By putting more money into the school system it will allow schools to buy the equipment needed to teach kids about these very important and dangerous technologies.
If we keep doing things the way we do it now, we will create a bunch of drones who cant think for themselves, and eventually some intelligent terrorist will decide to attack us with a nano virus and no one will be smart enough to defend themselves from it.
Instead by educated everyone about nano technology, everyone will be able to develop ways ot defend themselves from it, even if this means everyone creates various nano anti virii or develops a way to completely destroy nano bots such as EMP fields
Education and Research is the key, we should be spending the majority of our money on this.
In my previous post i mentioned how our government spends very little on nano technology. The reason is most people arent ready for even computer technology. Look at our laws and how our government and copyright system refuses to change with the technology.
Old laws dont work anymore, its time to change.
This is exactly why we need to educate the people to a much higher standard.
Most of our money should be on building much better schools, we need a complete reform of the school system so school creates people who are free thinkers instead of bots who work in an office.
More and more, our mental abilities will matter.
Nano technology is good, we should put hundreds of billions of dollars into this, but if we are to accept these advances in technology we must advance socially as well..
No more wars.
No more creating terrorists (like bin laden)
We need to find a way to handle oppressed people in the third world, so they dont all become terrorists.
I'm personally ready for nano technology, I think alot of people on slashdot may be ready, but your average idiot is not ready.
I'm hoping, if we spend vast amounts of money on education, it will cause less people to be ignorant, In a society filled with nano technolgy we cannot tolerate ignorance anymore, a KKK member will be able to destroy all minorities in an instant, a Nazi will be able to destroy all jews in an instant.
The only thing we can do, is educate ignorant people in such a way that they are less likely to do stupid things.
Some people we wont be able to educate at all, but at least by building better schools we give it a shot.
bomb shelters are better than that idiotic missle defense system we are wasting money on.
we should begin terraforming mars right now, then we can go to europa and see if we discover any aliens under the ice, after that, we can begin building on mars to prepare for when we need to move to mars (or want to move there)
Welfare reform (our way of giving up on the unemployed)
We have state by state homeless solutions, some have none, some states have homeless shelters, the federal government doesnt solve this.
According to most republicans and capitalists, its every man for himself, no helping the homeless, no taxes at all etc.
Its up to the people, while the people voted for gore, bush is president, bush cut taxes by about a trillion dollars, most of this money is taken from welfare, helping the homeless, social security and other freebies and put into the military
How do you know drugs dont pay for stuff?
What happens to all the drugs the government gathers when they do drug busts?
Next time vote for al gore, taxes would be higher but NASA would have more money
Wouldnt work would it, rap is sold to more whites than blacks, the NBA is owned by whites, and NIKE is owned by and sold to mostly whites.
So what you'd have is rich CEOs, and middle class teenagers in the suburbs, along with a few atheletes payinng for the majority of the welfare and foodstamp market.
he who makes the majority of the money, pays the majority of the taxes.
No because that would be stupid
If whites are the oppressors whites should pay for programs to solve problems THEY have caused.
Its almost like the RIAAs idea of making IT industry solve their problem of piracy.
Exactly!
I'd rather have a complete democracy than a republic
Republic is exactly the problem with government, if it is a democracy, then its no longer big brother, its us.
Than we do on the NASA budget
Than we do on welfare
Than we do on building schools.
Hell we spend more money bailing airport companies out than we do on schools, whats more important than schools?
In my opinions our priorities are all wrong, because dumbasses in our government dont know how to spend money properly, this goes for both the republicans and democrates.
Our money should go to technology, healthcare, schools.
Technology will allow us to live better, Healthcare will allow us to live longer, School will allow us to have the intelligence to actually live without destroying ourselves.
Now how much money is being spent on technology? well nano technology got less than 100 million, we spent less than 100 million searching for vaccines for aids and cures for cancer, we spent around 20 billion for public schools but what we really need is complete reform, and doubled budget so schools use all the latest technology to bring kids into the digital age.
instead, 20 billion goes to airports in a bailout, tax cuts all over the place but the military budget is increased with next to none of this budget being used for homeland defense.
Its almost insane that we spend almost a trillion a year on the military (most of the budget) all of these nuclear bombs and secret weapons, yet not a single bomb shelter, no way to stop a biological attack, no way to stop nuclear attacks, no way to stop terrorist attacks like 911.
We have absolutely no defense, the best our government does is warn us and we can only hope our under funded local law enforcement can handle the situation.
ALot of people especially people from slashdot say tax cuts are good, my question to these people, Do you all have bomb shelters? How will you survive a nuclear terrorist attack?
So if we lower taxes it just means more money gets put into stupid programs that we dont want or need, or programs we dont know about.
Perhaps anti tax slashdotters and anti government types have a solution for terrorism?
Not only that, but will we ever go to mars? I doubt it, it would be too expensive to do so for about another 20 years, and the more tax cuts, the less likely we will ever venture out into space in this lifetime.
NASAs budget is insanely small,
The Nano Technology budget is insanely small
The Science & R&D research budgets are too small, the ones which arent too small are classified government projects which we wont know about for about 20 years or the next war.
The problem isnt that we spend too much on taxes, the problem is, the money we spend on taxes we have no control over, perhaps if we were given control, taxes could be raised and no one would care.
Perhaps we need a system to allow us to control where the tax money goes. So that I can pay all my taxes to a certain thing, like bomb shelters and schools.
I dont want to fund the war on iraq, the attack on south korea, vietnam or any other pointless war our government throws us into.
I certainly dont want to fund some secret project i know nothing about.
The solution is to fund all government programslike that.
Why should we be forced to have our money sent to airport companies for a bailout? We spent 20 billion dollars bailing them out!
You are right, interest should decide how much is spent on where, however we dont have a true democracy, we are a republic and thats going against the nature of the government itself.
You allow US to decide where the money goes, and most of the people in the government and congress will be out of a job.
Everytime you buy army toy figures you fund a bomb made to blow people up.
I'm ok with funding NASA like this but only if everything else was funded like this too.
If NASA is the only thing thats funded like this it seems like another trick to redirect resources.
Bush used that trick, trillion dollar tax cut yet an increased military budget, increased spending, putting us in debt, oh and we lose out on stuff like social security.
Tax cuts are fine if we learn to use the money we have more efficiently. If not, tax cuts end up hurting us.
Yes make friends with the bully, share code, get a battlenet client for linux thats open and allows us to write plugins to it and patches and improve on it while also keeping the licensed part of the client closed source.
Same as what secure rom and transgaming have done.
Then who would care? The point here is NOT to connect to Blizzard's servers, but to be able to host our own.
And if blizzard says no, Then you cant host it. Whats this court case about? You have the right to play the game, read the terms of agreement, it doesnt say you have the right to host a server!
Besides, your whole idea is based on the fact that Transgaming says they'd support battle.net. Who says Blizzard would agree to give them the information to do so anyway?Increased game sales from linux users, blizzard could also license the code and make a profit, companies like make profits, companies like good marketshare, companies also WANT you playing their games when you purchase them so you'll keep buying more. Blizzard would give out the technical details to keep us from building battlenetD, to keep linux users from boycotting them, and Because out of all the reasons I mentioned, neither you or I can think of a profitable or logical reason why they shouldnt give out the technical details or license the code if the product will be closed source anyway, securerom did it, EA did it, why shouldnt blizzard?
Anyway, what's the point then? I like the idea of BNetD because it means I can tweak the way things work in the games. If I want my item drops to be better, I can do it. If I want to make some of the enemies harder, I can do that too. If it's closed source, I may as well be using Blizzard's slow-as-hell servers.
I like the idea of BnetD, but thats not the point.
The point is, right now we have no way to play starcraft AT ALL, period!
Future blizzard games like world of warcraft we have no way to play AT ALL.
By creating a seperate blizzard client you gain the benifit off something like jabber, instead of copying icq code for code, you just license the code from blizzard in the form of components snap it into the code.
Warcraft 3? Same client which can be themeable as well, native client instead of emulated so it will be faster, world of warcraft? no problem.
You see what im sayingg is we need an alternative battlenet client for linux.
Not an open source client, just a linux version off the windows client will do.
bNetD is good, i dont mind it, but honestly whats more important to a linux user, hosting servers for games, or actually playing them?
Thats not the point. What matters more, playing blizzard games, or having a way to not connect to blizzard servers but no way to play blizzard games?
Dumbass, right now you cant play blizzard games AT ALL!!!
I'd rather have a way to play games, then worry about playing games in specific non blizzard fashions.
TRANSGAMING CAN USE BLIZZARDS CODE WHICH CHECKS THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE CD KEYS THAT CONNECT TO IT.
Thus Transgaming can solve blizzards piracy situation while offering BLIZZARDS battlenet.
So you see, Transgaming allows battlenet on linux, I never said an open source battlenet, I never said battlenet for Lans, I said blizzards battlenet.
People would still connect to blizzards server!
Why not support trangaming? They will give Linux a closed source battlenet client, and problem solved!!!
I suggested to transgaming to support battlenet, however we need more votes to get it actually supported.
If all of these people worried about the open source battlenet would just give up their 15 bucks we'd have a closed source battlenet.
While I disagree with DMCA, and I agree with open source, sometimes closed source is the easier path to take in the short term. Lets just get some games working in linux damnit, fighting with game making companies only scares them away more!!! Cant you people see that?
This case should seriously be dropped, the team working on the open source battlenet should just make a closed source version instead and help the transgaming project.
This court case against the DMCA is going to lose and be a huge waste of time and money on both sides of the fence, we have the SSSCA and Lobbying politicians to worry about, honestly I think the reason game developers dont make games for linux is because people demand their games be open source.
Why fight these guys? Instead, we should be workingg together to bring games to linux.
So all of you who threaten to boycott, do yourself a favor and instead of boycotting, petition blizzard to port battlenet or to license the battleenet source code to transgaming, mandrake, or anyone willing to pay the price.
This will solve the problem because the binary can be released, we will be happy, they will be happy, transgaming will be happy because they'd get more subscribers.
This is my solution, I'm sure my Open Source Supporting Community may end up flaming me,
So be it, I want games in linux.
Most people are just too ignorant to think for themselves, they have to be told how to think and what to believe in.
Give ignorant people better communication, and they spread ignorance.
Hate is a disease of ignorance.
Transgaming will take Rewind, and add their own code to it then just release a binary.
Transgaming will only release to Rewind when they get enough subscribers to pay for the release of code
You see, the Rewind tree is NOT GPL which means it will always have corperate support