* I do think he's a corrupt, vindictive, and petty narcissist who cares very little for his country.
Where you think my preconceived notions cloud my judgment of Trump, I think yours do. You don't like him, so you are ascribing all your perceived faults as further evidence of why you are right. It's the same charge you make about me, so who's right? First, your assumptions about me are wrong....
I don't hold Trump up as some ideal person, far from it. What politician is? None that I know of. Trump is many of the things you claim. He's brash, unpolished, braggart that cares little for political correctness or being nice. He doesn't take garbage or suffer foolishness (from his perspective) or play games. However, none of that disqualifies him from holding office and I support him because of his policies, which I agree with more than Hillary's.
Corrupt? You are going to have to come up with proof of that... He's a rich business man who's been in the public eye for decades, surely you have proof of this charge by now...
Vindictive? I don't think so, but I won't argue the point because so what if he is?
Narcissist? Fine, I'll give you this. However, most politicians and well known people have similar characteristics... This isn't unusual. I think Obama is one too, but it's not something I'd use to bash him with.
Cares very little for the Country? LOL.. Really? Sounds like a typical political "I don't like him" laundry list item...
Who's bias is showing? Mine may be, but yours surely is too..
How do you know it was TSA exactly? IF it's done before the international flight, it must have been done overseas, which pretty much precludes any kind of intelligence searching by the USA... Unless of course the host country allows the USA to do this. Despite what you've been told, agencies of the USA generally don't openly and routinely break the laws of foreign countries when on their soil...
And are you SURE the TSA search was done at the origin of your international flight? If you had a domestic leg, you had to re-check your bag, and TSA does pay special attention to baggage being rechecked from international fights, but that would have been done domestically and doesn't have anything to do with this new rule.
Yea, that's EU's rules, but only if you are coming from another EU country.. Which are "special" (as in short bus special) and required as part of being a member...
I assure you, MOST countries I've been to do it the same way the US does and the UK did it this way too last time I was there (although this was 10 years ago).
Well... That's an interesting theory there... A theory you have little evidence for.
Remember, last time I came into the USA, you picked up your baggage pretty quickly after landing, just before you clear customs. There is no time after the flight to search so I ask you... Who will be doing the preflight inspections outside the USA if what you say is true?
Has it ever occurred to you that they can subject baggage to more stringent screaming?
You can use manual searching, stronger X-Rays and radiation to detect explosives, insert them into vacuum chambers to set off pressure sensitive triggers and a whole host of other techniques to catch explosives before they get on board. They also can take more time than would be convenient when screening people and their carry-ons.
Fair enough.... However, it's a pretty bad position when you depend on your opponent to make a mistake before you can possibly have any advantage...
BTW, He's been showing remarkable restraint with a number of issues from my perspective. All I'm really seeing from him are hiccups which are a result of his not caring about political correctness. He's brash, bold and unpolished, but I don't see him as impulsive or stupid, he just doesn't care about the politically correctness of what he says, tweets or does. (Which, by the way, is EXACTLY why he was elected..)
If Trump really is that stupid, he's really lucky to have escaped so far and the longer he's president the chances of what you think being true continue to fall.... Eventually you will have to start thinking that perhaps the truth isn't what you hoped it was.
I suggest you put away the partisan glasses and at least consider the possibility that Trump isn't stupid, nor has he done what you clearly think he has...I'm not asking you to believe in Trump, only to engage in some critical thinking about what's being said about him and realize that a lot of what you are hearing is partisan rhetoric from folks who hate him (and folks that love him).
Yea, and Ken Star didn't find anything after years of trying, until Clinton lied about the blue dress like a stupid idiot. Congressional investigations of criminal activity rarely find anything more than process crimes (lying under oath and such). It's all political theater, a show you put on for the supporters who send you cash.
The odds say they won't find anything... Although they will continue to try for years and yeas. Remember Benghazi? How long was that?
This is about appearances and the political damage you can inflict with all the investigations, innuendo and rumors, not about reality or truth. The FBI did their investigation and didn't find anything. They could have missed something, but I doubt it. Comey's FBI did a fine job of investigating Hillary's E-mails and Anthony Weiner's issues, and I bet they did the same for Trump.
The Benghazi hearings went on longer than that and produced nothing but smoke too... Remember Ken Star? Of course you do, how long was Clinton under investigation? It was a LONG time and would have come to nothing w/o that blue dress and the attempt to cover up what it showed.
Congressional hearings and investigations rarely ever find anything but process crimes like lying under oath. In fact, that's what got Clinton impeached. Not to mention that I don't think congress can actually produce charges. All they can do is pass the evidence they find over to prosecutors when they find a crime, or the house can impeach if they decide they want to (if it's a president).
Now I guess you can invent scenarios where the house would vote to impeach Trump, but right now, it isn't happening, nor will he be convicted in the Senate if you managed to turn enough house votes (remember that takes 2/3rds by constitutional rule).
This isn't going anywhere... Trump isn't stupid enough to get caught up in a process crime and the FBI isn't finding anything after all their looking. This is nothing more than partisan bickering and trying to do as much political damage to Trump as possible... Which, I guess, is enough of a reason to keep this circus going round for another 3+ years for some..
The FBI found noting that implicates TRUMP... Isn't that the point? Are you not looking for something to impeach him over? Otherwise why all the pretense?
Congress has their investigative ability to follow up the FBI's investigation, which they are doing now. However, given the FBI has done all this from a criminal perspective, and has failed to produce charges (Comey says Trump is not now the target of any FBI probes and there are no charges) anything that congress may uncover, assuming they don't catch somebody in a "process crime" (like Scoter Libby) it's going to be as much imagined smoke as one political party can produce and very little else. Remember the Benghazi hearings, it will be like that. Lots of talk, as much political damage as possible and no criminal charges..
. He's getting rid of Comey on a flimsy pretense of mishandling his Clinton e-mail testimony, but his real concern is that he may not be personally under investigation at present, but he might be in the future.
Wait.... Wait...
Did you just admit that, although Comey indicated that the Trump Campaign WAS under investigation for more than a year, that he is NOT NOW under investigation? Doesn't it follow that they then didn't find anything on this Russian Trump Collusion investigation we've been hearing about since before January 20th as both the reason Hillary lost and the thing that would bring Trump down?
Are we ready to admit that this whole Russian Collusion charge was (to coin a phrase) "trumped up"? That the investigation is over and has turned up nothing over at the FBI?
It does have the look of desperation. I'm not really one to give much credence to conspiracy theories, but I read yesterday of some group of Congressmen (identities unknown) who are already meeting to discuss impeachment.
Just so you know, members of congress have been stating openly that impeachment was their goal since before Trump was sworn in so this is not news or somehow a recent development. A couple have openly called for impeachment, then had to walk such statements back when pressed on them.
So... I would caution you that such talk, including the cloak and dagger trappings, are designed to invoke suspicion, and are unlikely based on much more than rumors. Trump would call them "fake news" but I won't go quite that far. It does seem to be manufactured news though, invented by political opponents of Trump and reported by the press without much critical thinking involved.
Well, the next director cannot do any worse for you... Comey has found NOTHING after over a year of trying to prove a link between Trump and the Russians.
Seriously, you guys are digging into something that, even after this much attention, has yielded nothing important. Surely any replacement would be better for you, sure cannot be any worse.
BTW... Could it possibly be there is nothing to find? Naw, keep digging!
NO, Comey was playing the Hokie Pokie over the last election and kept putting his hand in and out. He may have been a victim of circumstances and truly thought he was doing the right thing but after his last congressional testimony he really turned out to be damaged goods. Right or wrong, he needed to go.
The timing is ODD? The whole thing is ODD if you ask me, just not in the way you are implying.
Come on, the timing would have been "odd" regardless of when Trump did this. Of course the Democrats will decry how this is evidence of something "odd" going on that we need to investigate... Maxine Waters and Nancy will be spouting off about impeachment again because it doesn't matter what Trump does or when he does it, it's always suspicious to them..
I think this is all odd in that Comey lased this long after inserting himself into an election twice then tried to explain away his actions by claiming he had no choice. I think it's ODD that Comey decided that no charges where appropriate for Hillary and that E-mail thing, but then again he didn't want to impact the election, then turns around and sticks his foot in it again????
Comey did this to himself. I don't know if he was playing political games with the facts, playing one side or the other, nor do I care. What's really odd is that Trump let this circus go on as long as he did...
If you cannot figure it out from the above, far be it from me to try to explain. I make a habit of not arguing with those who cannot refrain from angry outbursts or engage in thoughtful discussions when I can avoid it.
I just consider everything I see on Facebook to be fake, including the pictures of my sister-in-law's dinner before, during and after she eats...
Not to mention, why on earth would you bother with a newspaper ad? Most news papers I know are putting out fake news themselves... I know the local paper sure is... It's sort of like the pot calling the kettle black if you ask me.
Oh well, I guess it's to be expected given we live in a day where most folks get their hard news from the nightly comedy shows anyway..
And with that display, you become example 1 of a partisan hack...
For Pete's sake, how on earth can you just dismiss almost exactly HALF of the population as being mistaken about their facts just because YOU don't agree with their conclusions... It's like the democrats yelling that the republicans want dirty air and water and want to kill kids.... Patently false statement at worse, logical fallacy at best, yet I've heard it repeated over and over....
Surely you see the problem here.... That nobody can be that sure of the facts on some of what you clearly believe to be true and militantly demand be dealt with.
Um, hasn't one specific scientific controversy been bandied about by one side of the political spectrum and used to beat the other side over the head? Hasn't science been used as a political wedge issue for over a decade? I believe it has, in which case this whole thing becomes political, right or wrong, like it or not.....
Which leads me to say the following: "Elections have consequences."
Where we would like to think that *somehow* facts will win the argument, there are way to many alternate realities floating around with their on version of facts and truth these days. The EPA has been awash in political power and has participated in it's own demise by allowing its regulatory power to be used for furthering a political ideology, even when the facts and environmental benefits may be in dispute.
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A GOOD hacker would have covered his tracks so they didn't get caught..
* I do think he's a corrupt, vindictive, and petty narcissist who cares very little for his country.
Where you think my preconceived notions cloud my judgment of Trump, I think yours do. You don't like him, so you are ascribing all your perceived faults as further evidence of why you are right. It's the same charge you make about me, so who's right? First, your assumptions about me are wrong....
I don't hold Trump up as some ideal person, far from it. What politician is? None that I know of. Trump is many of the things you claim. He's brash, unpolished, braggart that cares little for political correctness or being nice. He doesn't take garbage or suffer foolishness (from his perspective) or play games. However, none of that disqualifies him from holding office and I support him because of his policies, which I agree with more than Hillary's.
Corrupt? You are going to have to come up with proof of that... He's a rich business man who's been in the public eye for decades, surely you have proof of this charge by now...
Vindictive? I don't think so, but I won't argue the point because so what if he is?
Narcissist? Fine, I'll give you this. However, most politicians and well known people have similar characteristics... This isn't unusual. I think Obama is one too, but it's not something I'd use to bash him with.
Cares very little for the Country? LOL.. Really? Sounds like a typical political "I don't like him" laundry list item...
Who's bias is showing? Mine may be, but yours surely is too..
How do you know it was TSA exactly? IF it's done before the international flight, it must have been done overseas, which pretty much precludes any kind of intelligence searching by the USA... Unless of course the host country allows the USA to do this. Despite what you've been told, agencies of the USA generally don't openly and routinely break the laws of foreign countries when on their soil...
And are you SURE the TSA search was done at the origin of your international flight? If you had a domestic leg, you had to re-check your bag, and TSA does pay special attention to baggage being rechecked from international fights, but that would have been done domestically and doesn't have anything to do with this new rule.
Yea, that's EU's rules, but only if you are coming from another EU country.. Which are "special" (as in short bus special) and required as part of being a member...
I assure you, MOST countries I've been to do it the same way the US does and the UK did it this way too last time I was there (although this was 10 years ago).
Well... That's an interesting theory there... A theory you have little evidence for.
Remember, last time I came into the USA, you picked up your baggage pretty quickly after landing, just before you clear customs. There is no time after the flight to search so I ask you... Who will be doing the preflight inspections outside the USA if what you say is true?
Has it ever occurred to you that they can subject baggage to more stringent screaming?
You can use manual searching, stronger X-Rays and radiation to detect explosives, insert them into vacuum chambers to set off pressure sensitive triggers and a whole host of other techniques to catch explosives before they get on board. They also can take more time than would be convenient when screening people and their carry-ons.
Cargo holds ARE pressurized... They are not heated or ventalated, but they are inside the pressurized area.
I hear the Titanic is setting sail from South Hampton next April...
Fair enough.... However, it's a pretty bad position when you depend on your opponent to make a mistake before you can possibly have any advantage...
BTW, He's been showing remarkable restraint with a number of issues from my perspective. All I'm really seeing from him are hiccups which are a result of his not caring about political correctness. He's brash, bold and unpolished, but I don't see him as impulsive or stupid, he just doesn't care about the politically correctness of what he says, tweets or does. (Which, by the way, is EXACTLY why he was elected..)
That's why my unit sales of buggy whips just took off with that infinite sales increase over last year... I KNEW this factory was a good investment!
If Trump really is that stupid, he's really lucky to have escaped so far and the longer he's president the chances of what you think being true continue to fall.... Eventually you will have to start thinking that perhaps the truth isn't what you hoped it was.
I suggest you put away the partisan glasses and at least consider the possibility that Trump isn't stupid, nor has he done what you clearly think he has...I'm not asking you to believe in Trump, only to engage in some critical thinking about what's being said about him and realize that a lot of what you are hearing is partisan rhetoric from folks who hate him (and folks that love him).
I was saying this on Monday.. BEFORE Comey got the ax.. Based on Comey's testimony last week before congress.
Yea, and Ken Star didn't find anything after years of trying, until Clinton lied about the blue dress like a stupid idiot. Congressional investigations of criminal activity rarely find anything more than process crimes (lying under oath and such). It's all political theater, a show you put on for the supporters who send you cash.
The odds say they won't find anything... Although they will continue to try for years and yeas. Remember Benghazi? How long was that?
This is about appearances and the political damage you can inflict with all the investigations, innuendo and rumors, not about reality or truth. The FBI did their investigation and didn't find anything. They could have missed something, but I doubt it. Comey's FBI did a fine job of investigating Hillary's E-mails and Anthony Weiner's issues, and I bet they did the same for Trump.
The Benghazi hearings went on longer than that and produced nothing but smoke too... Remember Ken Star? Of course you do, how long was Clinton under investigation? It was a LONG time and would have come to nothing w/o that blue dress and the attempt to cover up what it showed.
Congressional hearings and investigations rarely ever find anything but process crimes like lying under oath. In fact, that's what got Clinton impeached. Not to mention that I don't think congress can actually produce charges. All they can do is pass the evidence they find over to prosecutors when they find a crime, or the house can impeach if they decide they want to (if it's a president).
Now I guess you can invent scenarios where the house would vote to impeach Trump, but right now, it isn't happening, nor will he be convicted in the Senate if you managed to turn enough house votes (remember that takes 2/3rds by constitutional rule).
This isn't going anywhere... Trump isn't stupid enough to get caught up in a process crime and the FBI isn't finding anything after all their looking. This is nothing more than partisan bickering and trying to do as much political damage to Trump as possible... Which, I guess, is enough of a reason to keep this circus going round for another 3+ years for some..
The FBI found noting that implicates TRUMP... Isn't that the point? Are you not looking for something to impeach him over? Otherwise why all the pretense?
Congress has their investigative ability to follow up the FBI's investigation, which they are doing now. However, given the FBI has done all this from a criminal perspective, and has failed to produce charges (Comey says Trump is not now the target of any FBI probes and there are no charges) anything that congress may uncover, assuming they don't catch somebody in a "process crime" (like Scoter Libby) it's going to be as much imagined smoke as one political party can produce and very little else. Remember the Benghazi hearings, it will be like that. Lots of talk, as much political damage as possible and no criminal charges..
. He's getting rid of Comey on a flimsy pretense of mishandling his Clinton e-mail testimony, but his real concern is that he may not be personally under investigation at present, but he might be in the future.
Wait.... Wait...
Did you just admit that, although Comey indicated that the Trump Campaign WAS under investigation for more than a year, that he is NOT NOW under investigation? Doesn't it follow that they then didn't find anything on this Russian Trump Collusion investigation we've been hearing about since before January 20th as both the reason Hillary lost and the thing that would bring Trump down?
Are we ready to admit that this whole Russian Collusion charge was (to coin a phrase) "trumped up"? That the investigation is over and has turned up nothing over at the FBI?
It does have the look of desperation. I'm not really one to give much credence to conspiracy theories, but I read yesterday of some group of Congressmen (identities unknown) who are already meeting to discuss impeachment.
Just so you know, members of congress have been stating openly that impeachment was their goal since before Trump was sworn in so this is not news or somehow a recent development. A couple have openly called for impeachment, then had to walk such statements back when pressed on them.
So... I would caution you that such talk, including the cloak and dagger trappings, are designed to invoke suspicion, and are unlikely based on much more than rumors. Trump would call them "fake news" but I won't go quite that far. It does seem to be manufactured news though, invented by political opponents of Trump and reported by the press without much critical thinking involved.
Well, the next director cannot do any worse for you... Comey has found NOTHING after over a year of trying to prove a link between Trump and the Russians.
Seriously, you guys are digging into something that, even after this much attention, has yielded nothing important. Surely any replacement would be better for you, sure cannot be any worse.
BTW... Could it possibly be there is nothing to find? Naw, keep digging!
NO, Comey was playing the Hokie Pokie over the last election and kept putting his hand in and out. He may have been a victim of circumstances and truly thought he was doing the right thing but after his last congressional testimony he really turned out to be damaged goods. Right or wrong, he needed to go.
The timing is ODD? The whole thing is ODD if you ask me, just not in the way you are implying.
Come on, the timing would have been "odd" regardless of when Trump did this. Of course the Democrats will decry how this is evidence of something "odd" going on that we need to investigate... Maxine Waters and Nancy will be spouting off about impeachment again because it doesn't matter what Trump does or when he does it, it's always suspicious to them..
I think this is all odd in that Comey lased this long after inserting himself into an election twice then tried to explain away his actions by claiming he had no choice. I think it's ODD that Comey decided that no charges where appropriate for Hillary and that E-mail thing, but then again he didn't want to impact the election, then turns around and sticks his foot in it again????
Comey did this to himself. I don't know if he was playing political games with the facts, playing one side or the other, nor do I care. What's really odd is that Trump let this circus go on as long as he did...
And installed debian instead of windows..
If you cannot figure it out from the above, far be it from me to try to explain. I make a habit of not arguing with those who cannot refrain from angry outbursts or engage in thoughtful discussions when I can avoid it.
Have a nice day and don't forget your meds....
I just consider everything I see on Facebook to be fake, including the pictures of my sister-in-law's dinner before, during and after she eats...
Not to mention, why on earth would you bother with a newspaper ad? Most news papers I know are putting out fake news themselves... I know the local paper sure is... It's sort of like the pot calling the kettle black if you ask me.
Oh well, I guess it's to be expected given we live in a day where most folks get their hard news from the nightly comedy shows anyway..
And with that display, you become example 1 of a partisan hack...
For Pete's sake, how on earth can you just dismiss almost exactly HALF of the population as being mistaken about their facts just because YOU don't agree with their conclusions... It's like the democrats yelling that the republicans want dirty air and water and want to kill kids.... Patently false statement at worse, logical fallacy at best, yet I've heard it repeated over and over....
Surely you see the problem here.... That nobody can be that sure of the facts on some of what you clearly believe to be true and militantly demand be dealt with.
Um, hasn't one specific scientific controversy been bandied about by one side of the political spectrum and used to beat the other side over the head? Hasn't science been used as a political wedge issue for over a decade? I believe it has, in which case this whole thing becomes political, right or wrong, like it or not.....
Which leads me to say the following: "Elections have consequences."
Where we would like to think that *somehow* facts will win the argument, there are way to many alternate realities floating around with their on version of facts and truth these days. The EPA has been awash in political power and has participated in it's own demise by allowing its regulatory power to be used for furthering a political ideology, even when the facts and environmental benefits may be in dispute.