She claims she was harassed in the workplace, mistreated and otherwise had to endure their crap while employed at Uber. IF her claims are true, she has standing to sue, especially in the liberal mecca she lives. Remember that the Big Rich Uber vrs the lowly female ex-employee already slants to her favor in civil court.
But hey, I ask you, why is Uber making legal moves by retaining a law firm to investigate her? You hire a private investigator for that kind of thing, not a law firm, unless you intend to file. They are thinking seriously about filing suit and the law firm is wisely getting its ducks in a row before running down to the courts and pay the filing fee. None of Uber's actions make sense if this isn't the path they are on... Doing this keeps her in the spotlight longer which keeps her claims swirling around doing damage to the company and keeping the PR department busy trying to cope. Why keep all this in play if they are not going to file? Just let it naturally die in the news cycle, but here they are helping keep the plate spinning for awhile longer. Stupid move if you are not on the path to a lawsuit.
So, seems to me she's getting sued. The question is the tactics she chooses to defend this. If she's sure they cannot get her for liable and her story is true, I recommend a pre-emptive harassment claim and make them counter with the liable claim. It will look better for her in court than just waiting and making the harassment counter claim. Now if she's making this stuff up, they are going to call her bluff so she needs to be looking for a way to fold, sooner rather than later. She won't be able to afford the lawyers much less the settlement if she keeps bluffing all the way to court.
That's like spitting in in the ocean for a day of profit in the S&P 500.
Where this news may not be fake, it sure illustrates how absurd this kind of reporting sometimes is. $150 Million may be a lot of money to you or me, but it's about the same as you cleaning out your couch cushions the day you got paid and the income tax refund hit for the S&P 500. This isn't even a ripple in the profit pool. Yet here we are regaled by "woe is us in the S&P 500" reports..
Never tried to manage a bunch of devices on a network I see.. Remember, that IT guy is a cost center, not a profit maker in nearly all companies.
There are really good reasons to only have one flavor of device on your IT system, but it mostly boils down to being able to manage it with the least effort and staff.
Let's be real, most workplaces use Windows/Linux. So kids are better off.
Oh, you are making a joke eh? Well, LINUX/Unix is all I've worked on for decades... Seriously, the windows box in my office is just there so I can produce and consume word documents and excel spreadsheets. (Well, that and because the IT department doesn't know how to administrate Linux Desktops..)
The "amount of evidence" is not an indicator of what it shows, but if she has what she claims, she needs to file suit.
I'm sure Uber already knows what the truth here is and they generally are going to act in their own best interest based on this knowledge. If they already know she's going to prevail, then they have two choices... Let the story die by ignoring it and hope she goes away or go on the attack and get her to shut up using legal means. You don't try the courts unless you have nothing to lose, know you will prevail or are plain stupid. Uber isn't stupid and has lots to lose, which means they are pretty confident they will prevail.
Like I said, I don't know either party here, so who really knows? I'm just giving you what my analysis leads me to conclude is the most likely. You are free to disagree..
what if she's a lying sack of shit and none of the stories she tells were true?
Then she's about to get legally reamed by Uber, and she deserves it. Which is why I'm thinking the smart play here is to beg for mercy, unless she has a good case on Uber, in which case she needs to file suit ASAP. Remember, Uber knows the truth here or they have a pretty good idea how this would play in court (and the lowly ex-employee vrs the Big Bad Rich Company NEVER plays well in court). It sure looks like she's got nothing, but who of us knows?
For her It's put up or shut up time. Given Uber's behavior, I think it's most likely time to beg for mercy, but Uber could be doing something extremely stupid, in which case she needs to file suit for lots of money now. If Uber is truly being stupid, she's going to have them by the short hairs in court so she needs to pull and twist as hard as she can, if not for the money, for the next ex-employee who wants to vent about their bad experiences at Uber. But if she's "stretching the truth" they will have their way with her (legally speaking) in court and she could end up in a really bad financial place so she needs to end this soon.
If she's bluffing they are setting up to call her hand, she better have the cards to beat them, because they don't seem to be backing down and they can afford to keep betting.
Libel is NOT a crime, it's a civil matter. The government isn't going to put her on trial for libel, but the entity she lied about can take her to civil court for damages. The only really part the government might play here is (apart from supplying the court) is to assist somebody in collecting a judgment.
My point here is that if she's lying, her best out now is to plead for mercy from those she harmed and try to get a settlement that doesn't ruin her professional and financial prospects further. Even if she's not lying but doesn't have a provable claim she can file on Uber, she'd be well advised to "man up" and let this go, sooner rather than later. However, if she thinks there is enough evidence, then she needs to file suit NOW....
So, now after her Blog post might have caused a PR nightmare for Uber, they are apparently strong arming her by hiring a law firm to "investigate" her? This is NOT good for either party here. Lady, it's time to fie suit or apologize.
Now I have no first hand knowledge of either party, but it sure seems like Uber is convinced that she cannot substantiate her story about what happens inside Uber so they are going to legally muzzle her to stem the PR damage she's doing. My guess is Uber has determined that just letting this go and weathering the PR storm is not in their best interest, that they need to take some kind of legal action to stop this woman from making her claims. They didn't choose to settle with her, pay her to be quiet or even sue her (yet) and are willing to keep the story alive. They apparently believe they can make this stop by taking action faster than letting the news cycle run it's course.
Uber is either being uber stupid or this lady is making stuff up. I'm thinking that's it is more likely this lady is making stuff up and Uber is making legal moves to stop her from lying about them. Uber may not be totally ethical at times, but I don't think they are stupid...
One thing is sure, now that lawyers are involved on both sides, nothing good is going to happen.
You where pretty suspicious if you, being a techie nerd type, could carry on an intelligent conversation with a woman.... I'm surprised you got in fella..
You've been stuck in Customs? For 30+ minutes? I usually walk through the "Nothing to Declare" side. Which usually takes about 10 seconds.
Now Passport Control is another thing entirely. Passport Control and Customs are two very different things. I can totally see being quizzed for lengthy periods of time at Passport Control. (Even if it's never happened to me.)
I've waited at customs AND immigration (passport control) for hours individually at times. Usually in Miami when all of the South America international flights arrive with in a couple of hours in the middle of the night. It's happened to me multiple times and is why I avoid Miami like the plague.. Well that and because as a fellow traveler once said as we where being herded into various queues for processing.. "I've been in South America for two weeks where nobody speaks anything but Spanish, then when I finally get back to the USA I find myself being yelled at in Spanish!" I told her she wasn't really in the USA yet, just southern FL where Spanish comes before English.
That's something that should be checked before issuing a Visa, not after they're already on the fucking plane here.
How? Sure you can check all you want before they are granted a visa, but how do you know that #1 The person that answers all the questions is who they say they are. And 2. The person who just got off the aircraft and is standing at the immigration counter is the person who answered the questions in the first place?
Um, no, technically he wasn't in the country yet, he had yet to clear immigration and customs. There are a LOT of people who transit though a US airport who are never technically IN the United States even if they are on US soil. They are afforded the privilege of "passing though" to change planes as they move on to another destination and we don't require visa's. Not everybody is granted this, but for the most part we don't care who you are if you are not staying.
Many countries allow this at major airports. Technically you don't legally enter the country (and don't have to meet their entry requirements) but you must stay within the designated area of the airport until you clear immigration. It's how Snowden got stuck at the Moscow airport in transit after the USA pulled his passport. He got stuck because he couldn't (and didn't want to) get on a plane w/o a passport, couldn't enter Russia unless they let him in.
I've spent 4 hours on an airplane for a 1 hour flight. We got on, got held for an hour on the ramp waiting to depart, then upon arrival got stuck for 2 hours while a series of thunderstorms rolled though and nobody could go near any aircraft for safety reasons to do things like push backs, luggage transfer, blue water removal ect...
I've also know of trips by air that took 36 hours from original departure to arrival at final destination that involved multiple stops in various countries along the way.
I've seen it... Wasn't pretty... Um.. Not my boss, she was OK looking but her relationship with HER boss was both common knowledge and a sight to see as it transpired in the office for all to see. It was complete with long lunches, traveling together and calling in sick on the same days. It didn't turn out well, but I'm pretty sure they both got the boot after their breakup. Her for being totally unable to really do her job (the one the company paid her for) and Him for having the relationship with her and opening the company up to the harassment lawsuit she filed.
Then there was the other place, where it was just ugly all around....
I learned one important thing. Don't do it, don't date anybody at work, it doesn't end well...
No no. Sexual harassment is a very specific kind of action and although it seems like the accuser has all the say about this, in most places I've worked there where clearly defined parameters necessary to establish that harassment actually took place. In order for it to be harassment it must be unwanted behavior that is either obviously harassing or behavior that continues AFTER it was communicated it was unwelcome.
Asking a peer out on a date, once, is not harassment. Continuing to ask after being told to stop asking IS harassment. Giving complements on appearance or dress is not harassment, unless it's communicated that it's unwelcome. Telling off color jokes *might* be harassment if the joke is obviously inappropriate for the office, continuing to do so after somebody asks you to stop IS a problem.
The biggest issue most folks have understanding this is with manager subordinate relationships. This is where things get dicey at times because the subordinate may not feel free to object. The smart manager stays clear of such entanglements and complications by making it a policy NOT to fraternize with the lower ranks. It is here where most of the serious mistakes and career ending events happen. Don't be stupid and don't give a chance for any false accusations to gain root by always having your guard up. Have "private" meetings in public places, offices with windows or don't close your door, make sure your office has windows and if you have an admin that they can observe what's happening in your office. DON'T socialize ALONE with your subordinate, but always make sure there is a group or other parties there. Also, if you catch wind of ANY inappropriate possibly harassing behavior among your subordinates, dig out the HR mandated training because it didn't take the first time and DEAL with the behavior BEFORE it gets out of hand. Project professional behavior and expect the same.
It's not hard, just don't be stupid, keep it professional and if you are the boss, keep witnesses around when dealing with subordinates.
If you do these things: 1. Keep things professional, 2. Stop any behavior when asked, 3. keep your interactions with subordinates appropriate and in public view, you won't have an issue when HR receives a complaint. If you DO have an issue and you where not caught being stupid, then you need to bail anyway because HR is messed up where you work.
No, Bob is always trying to send encrypted messages to Alice. They must not ever be together or the key transfer would be easy or private communications could take place directly.
Shesh Mr. Netflix... You are BARELY entertaining me now.... I find all your "Netflix Originals" impossible to watch because they are rife with gratuitous violence and senseless sex. Where some might find that entertaining, when it becomes the "thing" that makes the show, because there is no real plot, story or some kind of artistry it just makes all the shows the same. You've seen one TV-MA show and they all start looking the same, with the same tired formula used over and over again, no real world complexity in the human interaction, characters with depth nowhere to be found, no art or style and scenes thrown in for their shock value...
Now I suppose this *might* appeal to AI as it mimics standard AI training data, reparative data that is almost identical from which AI is supposed to find patterns in and learn from, but I suspect that real AI will find the entertainment value of the current Netflix much the same as I, it's mind numbing. Only for AI it will be like a trip back to grammar school to watch those PBS documentaries on the 25" Color TV on the video cart..
So be it.. This EE thinks you are being dumb not following sensible manufacturer's recommendations, but hey... It is your money to waste... You are likely the kind that doesn't understand proper ESD precautions either but hey, again, your money to waste. You seem like the kind to not change the oil in your car as recommended, or likely even aware that you should check the level now and then, just throw the gas in and drive it until it stops.... Your money....
Personally, I don't have money to waste myself...
An once of prevention is worth a pound of cure and I like to spend my efforts up front...If you want to let 'm cook, great.
Elion is getting more and more like a space cadet all the time. But I think it's on purpose.
I'm starting to think he's the modern day Howard Hughes. Not from being a personal eccentric mental case, but from his visionary "over the top" grand plans which far and away exceed his ability to achieve, both technically and financially. Like Hughes, Musk has some underlying reasons for these crazy ideas which obviously won't happen, related to creating some cover stories for some unrelated contract work for the government.
Remember Glomar Explorer? Hughes said he was going to mine the ocean floor for minerals and make a fortune? Yea, that was a cover story for a black operation to go pick up a sunken soviet submarine so the USA could have a closer look..
Is Musk doing the same thing? Mixing in some cover stories as grandiose plans that will never get off the ground just to cover up the real purpose? We might find out in 30 years that's what's going on...
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She claims she was harassed in the workplace, mistreated and otherwise had to endure their crap while employed at Uber. IF her claims are true, she has standing to sue, especially in the liberal mecca she lives. Remember that the Big Rich Uber vrs the lowly female ex-employee already slants to her favor in civil court.
But hey, I ask you, why is Uber making legal moves by retaining a law firm to investigate her? You hire a private investigator for that kind of thing, not a law firm, unless you intend to file. They are thinking seriously about filing suit and the law firm is wisely getting its ducks in a row before running down to the courts and pay the filing fee. None of Uber's actions make sense if this isn't the path they are on... Doing this keeps her in the spotlight longer which keeps her claims swirling around doing damage to the company and keeping the PR department busy trying to cope. Why keep all this in play if they are not going to file? Just let it naturally die in the news cycle, but here they are helping keep the plate spinning for awhile longer. Stupid move if you are not on the path to a lawsuit.
So, seems to me she's getting sued. The question is the tactics she chooses to defend this. If she's sure they cannot get her for liable and her story is true, I recommend a pre-emptive harassment claim and make them counter with the liable claim. It will look better for her in court than just waiting and making the harassment counter claim. Now if she's making this stuff up, they are going to call her bluff so she needs to be looking for a way to fold, sooner rather than later. She won't be able to afford the lawyers much less the settlement if she keeps bluffing all the way to court.
That's like spitting in in the ocean for a day of profit in the S&P 500.
Where this news may not be fake, it sure illustrates how absurd this kind of reporting sometimes is. $150 Million may be a lot of money to you or me, but it's about the same as you cleaning out your couch cushions the day you got paid and the income tax refund hit for the S&P 500. This isn't even a ripple in the profit pool. Yet here we are regaled by "woe is us in the S&P 500" reports..
Never tried to manage a bunch of devices on a network I see.. Remember, that IT guy is a cost center, not a profit maker in nearly all companies.
There are really good reasons to only have one flavor of device on your IT system, but it mostly boils down to being able to manage it with the least effort and staff.
Let's be real, most workplaces use Windows/Linux. So kids are better off.
Oh, you are making a joke eh? Well, LINUX/Unix is all I've worked on for decades... Seriously, the windows box in my office is just there so I can produce and consume word documents and excel spreadsheets. (Well, that and because the IT department doesn't know how to administrate Linux Desktops..)
The "amount of evidence" is not an indicator of what it shows, but if she has what she claims, she needs to file suit.
I'm sure Uber already knows what the truth here is and they generally are going to act in their own best interest based on this knowledge. If they already know she's going to prevail, then they have two choices... Let the story die by ignoring it and hope she goes away or go on the attack and get her to shut up using legal means. You don't try the courts unless you have nothing to lose, know you will prevail or are plain stupid. Uber isn't stupid and has lots to lose, which means they are pretty confident they will prevail.
Like I said, I don't know either party here, so who really knows? I'm just giving you what my analysis leads me to conclude is the most likely. You are free to disagree..
what if she's a lying sack of shit and none of the stories she tells were true?
Then she's about to get legally reamed by Uber, and she deserves it. Which is why I'm thinking the smart play here is to beg for mercy, unless she has a good case on Uber, in which case she needs to file suit ASAP. Remember, Uber knows the truth here or they have a pretty good idea how this would play in court (and the lowly ex-employee vrs the Big Bad Rich Company NEVER plays well in court). It sure looks like she's got nothing, but who of us knows?
For her It's put up or shut up time. Given Uber's behavior, I think it's most likely time to beg for mercy, but Uber could be doing something extremely stupid, in which case she needs to file suit for lots of money now. If Uber is truly being stupid, she's going to have them by the short hairs in court so she needs to pull and twist as hard as she can, if not for the money, for the next ex-employee who wants to vent about their bad experiences at Uber. But if she's "stretching the truth" they will have their way with her (legally speaking) in court and she could end up in a really bad financial place so she needs to end this soon.
If she's bluffing they are setting up to call her hand, she better have the cards to beat them, because they don't seem to be backing down and they can afford to keep betting.
Libel is NOT a crime, it's a civil matter. The government isn't going to put her on trial for libel, but the entity she lied about can take her to civil court for damages. The only really part the government might play here is (apart from supplying the court) is to assist somebody in collecting a judgment.
My point here is that if she's lying, her best out now is to plead for mercy from those she harmed and try to get a settlement that doesn't ruin her professional and financial prospects further. Even if she's not lying but doesn't have a provable claim she can file on Uber, she'd be well advised to "man up" and let this go, sooner rather than later. However, if she thinks there is enough evidence, then she needs to file suit NOW....
It's put up or shut up time.
So, now after her Blog post might have caused a PR nightmare for Uber, they are apparently strong arming her by hiring a law firm to "investigate" her? This is NOT good for either party here. Lady, it's time to fie suit or apologize.
Now I have no first hand knowledge of either party, but it sure seems like Uber is convinced that she cannot substantiate her story about what happens inside Uber so they are going to legally muzzle her to stem the PR damage she's doing. My guess is Uber has determined that just letting this go and weathering the PR storm is not in their best interest, that they need to take some kind of legal action to stop this woman from making her claims. They didn't choose to settle with her, pay her to be quiet or even sue her (yet) and are willing to keep the story alive. They apparently believe they can make this stop by taking action faster than letting the news cycle run it's course.
Uber is either being uber stupid or this lady is making stuff up. I'm thinking that's it is more likely this lady is making stuff up and Uber is making legal moves to stop her from lying about them. Uber may not be totally ethical at times, but I don't think they are stupid...
One thing is sure, now that lawyers are involved on both sides, nothing good is going to happen.
I don't think that word means what you think it means...
You where pretty suspicious if you, being a techie nerd type, could carry on an intelligent conversation with a woman.... I'm surprised you got in fella..
You've been stuck in Customs? For 30+ minutes? I usually walk through the "Nothing to Declare" side. Which usually takes about 10 seconds.
Now Passport Control is another thing entirely. Passport Control and Customs are two very different things. I can totally see being quizzed for lengthy periods of time at Passport Control. (Even if it's never happened to me.)
I've waited at customs AND immigration (passport control) for hours individually at times. Usually in Miami when all of the South America international flights arrive with in a couple of hours in the middle of the night. It's happened to me multiple times and is why I avoid Miami like the plague.. Well that and because as a fellow traveler once said as we where being herded into various queues for processing.. "I've been in South America for two weeks where nobody speaks anything but Spanish, then when I finally get back to the USA I find myself being yelled at in Spanish!" I told her she wasn't really in the USA yet, just southern FL where Spanish comes before English.
That's something that should be checked before issuing a Visa, not after they're already on the fucking plane here.
How? Sure you can check all you want before they are granted a visa, but how do you know that #1 The person that answers all the questions is who they say they are. And 2. The person who just got off the aircraft and is standing at the immigration counter is the person who answered the questions in the first place?
Um, no, technically he wasn't in the country yet, he had yet to clear immigration and customs. There are a LOT of people who transit though a US airport who are never technically IN the United States even if they are on US soil. They are afforded the privilege of "passing though" to change planes as they move on to another destination and we don't require visa's. Not everybody is granted this, but for the most part we don't care who you are if you are not staying.
Many countries allow this at major airports. Technically you don't legally enter the country (and don't have to meet their entry requirements) but you must stay within the designated area of the airport until you clear immigration. It's how Snowden got stuck at the Moscow airport in transit after the USA pulled his passport. He got stuck because he couldn't (and didn't want to) get on a plane w/o a passport, couldn't enter Russia unless they let him in.
24 hours doesn't seem too unlikely.
I've spent 4 hours on an airplane for a 1 hour flight. We got on, got held for an hour on the ramp waiting to depart, then upon arrival got stuck for 2 hours while a series of thunderstorms rolled though and nobody could go near any aircraft for safety reasons to do things like push backs, luggage transfer, blue water removal ect...
I've also know of trips by air that took 36 hours from original departure to arrival at final destination that involved multiple stops in various countries along the way.
No that there is funny!
I've seen it... Wasn't pretty... Um.. Not my boss, she was OK looking but her relationship with HER boss was both common knowledge and a sight to see as it transpired in the office for all to see. It was complete with long lunches, traveling together and calling in sick on the same days. It didn't turn out well, but I'm pretty sure they both got the boot after their breakup. Her for being totally unable to really do her job (the one the company paid her for) and Him for having the relationship with her and opening the company up to the harassment lawsuit she filed.
Then there was the other place, where it was just ugly all around....
I learned one important thing. Don't do it, don't date anybody at work, it doesn't end well...
Who has the power here?
No no. Sexual harassment is a very specific kind of action and although it seems like the accuser has all the say about this, in most places I've worked there where clearly defined parameters necessary to establish that harassment actually took place. In order for it to be harassment it must be unwanted behavior that is either obviously harassing or behavior that continues AFTER it was communicated it was unwelcome.
Asking a peer out on a date, once, is not harassment. Continuing to ask after being told to stop asking IS harassment. Giving complements on appearance or dress is not harassment, unless it's communicated that it's unwelcome. Telling off color jokes *might* be harassment if the joke is obviously inappropriate for the office, continuing to do so after somebody asks you to stop IS a problem.
The biggest issue most folks have understanding this is with manager subordinate relationships. This is where things get dicey at times because the subordinate may not feel free to object. The smart manager stays clear of such entanglements and complications by making it a policy NOT to fraternize with the lower ranks. It is here where most of the serious mistakes and career ending events happen. Don't be stupid and don't give a chance for any false accusations to gain root by always having your guard up. Have "private" meetings in public places, offices with windows or don't close your door, make sure your office has windows and if you have an admin that they can observe what's happening in your office. DON'T socialize ALONE with your subordinate, but always make sure there is a group or other parties there. Also, if you catch wind of ANY inappropriate possibly harassing behavior among your subordinates, dig out the HR mandated training because it didn't take the first time and DEAL with the behavior BEFORE it gets out of hand. Project professional behavior and expect the same.
It's not hard, just don't be stupid, keep it professional and if you are the boss, keep witnesses around when dealing with subordinates.
If you do these things: 1. Keep things professional, 2. Stop any behavior when asked, 3. keep your interactions with subordinates appropriate and in public view, you won't have an issue when HR receives a complaint. If you DO have an issue and you where not caught being stupid, then you need to bail anyway because HR is messed up where you work.
Amen. Is what I call the reverse Midas touch. Everything Microsoft touches turns into a turd.
Yea, but you can bet they make money on their, um... Stuff....
T-Mobile has free roaming!
Sure, until the electronic leash breaks, which, where I am would be often.
Really it's awful; and as of march the old UI clients are going to be no longer functional.
I'll bet the banner ads show up just fine.. Which means it's NOT broken, it just doesn't do what you want it to.
No, Bob is always trying to send encrypted messages to Alice. They must not ever be together or the key transfer would be easy or private communications could take place directly.
Shesh Mr. Netflix... You are BARELY entertaining me now.... I find all your "Netflix Originals" impossible to watch because they are rife with gratuitous violence and senseless sex. Where some might find that entertaining, when it becomes the "thing" that makes the show, because there is no real plot, story or some kind of artistry it just makes all the shows the same. You've seen one TV-MA show and they all start looking the same, with the same tired formula used over and over again, no real world complexity in the human interaction, characters with depth nowhere to be found, no art or style and scenes thrown in for their shock value...
Now I suppose this *might* appeal to AI as it mimics standard AI training data, reparative data that is almost identical from which AI is supposed to find patterns in and learn from, but I suspect that real AI will find the entertainment value of the current Netflix much the same as I, it's mind numbing. Only for AI it will be like a trip back to grammar school to watch those PBS documentaries on the 25" Color TV on the video cart..
So be it.. This EE thinks you are being dumb not following sensible manufacturer's recommendations, but hey... It is your money to waste... You are likely the kind that doesn't understand proper ESD precautions either but hey, again, your money to waste. You seem like the kind to not change the oil in your car as recommended, or likely even aware that you should check the level now and then, just throw the gas in and drive it until it stops.... Your money....
Personally, I don't have money to waste myself...
An once of prevention is worth a pound of cure and I like to spend my efforts up front...If you want to let 'm cook, great.
And with that... I'm done here...
Elion is getting more and more like a space cadet all the time. But I think it's on purpose.
I'm starting to think he's the modern day Howard Hughes. Not from being a personal eccentric mental case, but from his visionary "over the top" grand plans which far and away exceed his ability to achieve, both technically and financially. Like Hughes, Musk has some underlying reasons for these crazy ideas which obviously won't happen, related to creating some cover stories for some unrelated contract work for the government.
Remember Glomar Explorer? Hughes said he was going to mine the ocean floor for minerals and make a fortune? Yea, that was a cover story for a black operation to go pick up a sunken soviet submarine so the USA could have a closer look..
Is Musk doing the same thing? Mixing in some cover stories as grandiose plans that will never get off the ground just to cover up the real purpose? We might find out in 30 years that's what's going on...
Who's going with Alice?