I always thought this was a cool idea, albeit pretty messy. But this company will sell you a "case" (a modified fish aquarium) and the components to go into it. They also have some specs on how well this thing cools.
You are releasing an ANDROID app that allows me to volunteer to send you all my metadata? Um, not just no. Heck NO!
It's bad enough that the NSA gets it from my carrier and that Google gets loads of data from me every time I use the search feature on my phone, but even to make a point I'm NOT going to sign up and let some yahoos (um.. classical usage, not the company) track everything they want about my handset.
You people must be nuts... I've gone to great lengths to skim off all the stuff my carrier packed into the phone in the first place, I'm not going to waste my space, battery and data on this.
You pesky physicists just keep running around in circles asking for more, MORE MORE money.. Is all this really necessary or are we really just funding a pile of PHD student's research?
So, why don't we just cut to the chase here and go with the biggest possible? I'm starting to get tired of this "We need a bigger one now!" thing.
Seriously, So now that they've managed to find the Higgs boson we are done with the LHC? I'm looking for a really good reason we need a bigger collider here and I'm not seeing any given. Is there some theory we need to test or some additional advances in technology which depend on a better understanding of subatomic physics at such large energies? I'm no physicist, but I'm not seeing a reason for this expense, other than having a new, bigger and more expensive shiny toy.
Help us out, what will 100 TeV get you that your 14 TeV won't?
You confuse me with someone who thinks Linus' actions are justified. I don't. Where I try to understand *why* he does this, it doesn't mean I agree with the tactics he uses.
So Why look at this from his perspective? In order to try and understand how best to deal with him. Life is full of people with personality ticks that are going to rub you the wrong way. Successfully dealing with difficult people will require self control and understanding of what motivates them and adapting your actions accordingly. It's how life works, or doesn't..
I agree that it's about through put and my "latency" term was a poor word choice. You got to keep the GPU's busy, which means you have to get data into and out of memory as quickly as possible.
But the code should be enough documentation right?
You mean you want *comments* in the code too? Newbies...
Sarcasm aside... You newbies learn from this. DOCUMENT your projects. Do it FIRST because it saves you a lot of time when you are developing, and you will never have time to do it later.
He's been running this project for DECADES and it is successful, stable and very valuable. He's made many mistakes, paid the price for them and then corrected them. He is also heavily invested in this project both privately and professionally.
Then comes the flock of green horn newbies, with the ink still wet on their diplomas (if they graduated in the first place) who make predictable stupid mistakes over and over. The SAME predictable and stupid mistakes that have been made for decades worth of newbies. Now and then one of these newbies who is not content to let his idea die so he presses the idea getting some attention perhaps. If it reaches high enough to get Linus' attention and he recognizes it as a stupid previously dismissed idea, expect him to say so without mincing words or sparing feelings. He's been down this road before and he is decidedly NOT one prone to teach. He is merely ending what he knows is a useless debate, because he is right. More times than not, he really *is* right. I wish he was a bit more diplomatic at times, but there comes a point where it's a waste of everybody's time to argue. Linus is all about *not* wasting time. (Which is why he started "GIT" by the way) I figure that he puts on the narcissist persona to save time and effort, he's just cutting to the chase, the last part of the chase, to save time.
The way to get though this as a newbie is to try your best, be respectful when rejected and don't try to push issues. Go out of your way to learn what's transpired before, research on you own, ask when you cannot find information and above all respect what the long beards have to say. That and NEVER participate a mutiny unless you are prepared to see the thing through and never work on the project again.
How wrong can one be? I *might* give you C (but with classes is really just C++), but why would you do that? C++ has its issues, but as a language to write a kernel in I'll take the issues and get the predictable performance in return. You simply cannot do garbage collection in a kernel and get predictable performance for interrupt routines, context switching, signal delivery and the like. C and C++ are very common Kernel languages and for very good reason, pointers. Folks hate them, misuse them, cast them, and bad mouth them all the time, but they are *fast*, flexible and a great way to shoot yourself in the foot when you don't pay attention.
I suppose there is room for improving parts of the kernel by dropping into assembly, but I seriously doubt it will be worth the effort to do much of that. Certainly you'd not do the whole thing. Besides, C++ compilers are really very good at optimizing things anyway, so you'd not get much gain overall.
After watching a few videos of "Linuz"... I can assure you that he's pretty harmless, at least in person. I think he puts on the aura of raging narcissist on purpose and if you think about it, the whole persona serves him and Linux well. So far the Kernel project hasn't been fragmented and the project has been extremely stable for many years. This is not the normal course of an open source project, especially one of this visibility. This is largely due to "Linuz" and his persona.
But this is not to say I think the kernel is in good hands with him at the wheel. I worry about succession should "Linuz" become unavailable (say he's hit by a bus to use his illustration about why you should use git). I worry that the succession battle would be bad for the Kernel and the transition from the dictator rule to something else would be bumpy. Linuz could fix that by starting to transition what he does to his trusted few, and publish a clear future succession plan. But the future is "Difficult to see. Always in motion is the future."
Yes. One part with a middle of the road CPU and a middle of the road GPU.
The one advantage I see technically to this approach is you can get data from the CPU to the GPU without having to touch a trace on the motherboard. The over all complexity of the system goes down and the CPU to GPU performance goes up.
The disadvantages are many. More heat/power dissipation on the one part means it will run hotter (not that AMD doesn't do that anyway). Makes you pay for the GPU, even if you don't use/want it. Higher latency between the memory and the GPU which is KEY to a GPU performance. I'm sure there's more..
All this aside. Bully for AMD. These are great devices for low cost systems with reasonable performance.
Full Disclosure: I have a current low end AMD/GPU based system that I really like. It was CHEAP, and performs well enough for what I do.
Never said it wasn't the same for BitCoin. Problem is, law enforcement is a local thing for the most part. Your paintings get stolen from your house, you call the local police. But who do you call if all your BitCoin disappeared in China and you live in North America? Who's going to care?
Your local police will take your report, but they are not going to investigate. You could possibly call a national law enforcement organization, but they are not likely to even want to take your report. You could call law enforcement in China, but you have nearly zero chance getting them interested in looking into the crime even if you spoke their language.
Nobody is going to do anything about some monetary crime committed overseas or committed against someone overseas. It's either out of their jurisdiction or the victim is nobody they care about.
Just remember that all M$ has to do is portray a believable story that using something is possibly a problem for the user. It's called FUD, and in this case would be easy.
BitCoin has some *serious* problems, mostly caused by not being officially sanctioned currency that is regulated... But then, that's it's strong point too. But, being a pirate has it's down days. So, if you sleep with dogs, you wake up with fleas (or in this case, w/o your BitCoin...
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I always thought this was a cool idea, albeit pretty messy. But this company will sell you a "case" (a modified fish aquarium) and the components to go into it. They also have some specs on how well this thing cools.
Fluorinert wasn't flammable. At least the version they used on the C-90. (And I actually worked with these and other Cray hardware.. )
You are releasing an ANDROID app that allows me to volunteer to send you all my metadata? Um, not just no. Heck NO!
It's bad enough that the NSA gets it from my carrier and that Google gets loads of data from me every time I use the search feature on my phone, but even to make a point I'm NOT going to sign up and let some yahoos (um.. classical usage, not the company) track everything they want about my handset.
You people must be nuts... I've gone to great lengths to skim off all the stuff my carrier packed into the phone in the first place, I'm not going to waste my space, battery and data on this.
It's a water based process? And that's somehow safer? I don't think so.
Um... I thought Lithium and water where pretty unfriendly neighbors... Same kind of reaction you get when you get Sodium and water together.
This would not be a good thing..
I just don't see this working......
Choosing not to play is indeed a valid option. Choosing to put up with it can be rewarding though.
It's your call.
You pesky physicists just keep running around in circles asking for more, MORE MORE money.. Is all this really necessary or are we really just funding a pile of PHD student's research?
So, why don't we just cut to the chase here and go with the biggest possible? I'm starting to get tired of this "We need a bigger one now!" thing.
Seriously, So now that they've managed to find the Higgs boson we are done with the LHC? I'm looking for a really good reason we need a bigger collider here and I'm not seeing any given. Is there some theory we need to test or some additional advances in technology which depend on a better understanding of subatomic physics at such large energies? I'm no physicist, but I'm not seeing a reason for this expense, other than having a new, bigger and more expensive shiny toy.
Help us out, what will 100 TeV get you that your 14 TeV won't?
You confuse me with someone who thinks Linus' actions are justified. I don't. Where I try to understand *why* he does this, it doesn't mean I agree with the tactics he uses.
So Why look at this from his perspective? In order to try and understand how best to deal with him. Life is full of people with personality ticks that are going to rub you the wrong way. Successfully dealing with difficult people will require self control and understanding of what motivates them and adapting your actions accordingly. It's how life works, or doesn't..
I suppose it does work for him. Not my choice of tactics, but understandable if you think about it.
I agree that it's about through put and my "latency" term was a poor word choice. You got to keep the GPU's busy, which means you have to get data into and out of memory as quickly as possible.
But the code should be enough documentation right?
You mean you want *comments* in the code too? Newbies...
Sarcasm aside... You newbies learn from this. DOCUMENT your projects. Do it FIRST because it saves you a lot of time when you are developing, and you will never have time to do it later.
No, no, no.. He was saying HE could do it better.
Which is still a bad idea, and HE should feel bad..
In fairness, look at it from Linus' perspective.
He's been running this project for DECADES and it is successful, stable and very valuable. He's made many mistakes, paid the price for them and then corrected them. He is also heavily invested in this project both privately and professionally.
Then comes the flock of green horn newbies, with the ink still wet on their diplomas (if they graduated in the first place) who make predictable stupid mistakes over and over. The SAME predictable and stupid mistakes that have been made for decades worth of newbies. Now and then one of these newbies who is not content to let his idea die so he presses the idea getting some attention perhaps. If it reaches high enough to get Linus' attention and he recognizes it as a stupid previously dismissed idea, expect him to say so without mincing words or sparing feelings. He's been down this road before and he is decidedly NOT one prone to teach. He is merely ending what he knows is a useless debate, because he is right. More times than not, he really *is* right. I wish he was a bit more diplomatic at times, but there comes a point where it's a waste of everybody's time to argue. Linus is all about *not* wasting time. (Which is why he started "GIT" by the way) I figure that he puts on the narcissist persona to save time and effort, he's just cutting to the chase, the last part of the chase, to save time.
The way to get though this as a newbie is to try your best, be respectful when rejected and don't try to push issues. Go out of your way to learn what's transpired before, research on you own, ask when you cannot find information and above all respect what the long beards have to say. That and NEVER participate a mutiny unless you are prepared to see the thing through and never work on the project again.
It doesn't have to be C++
How wrong can one be? I *might* give you C (but with classes is really just C++), but why would you do that? C++ has its issues, but as a language to write a kernel in I'll take the issues and get the predictable performance in return. You simply cannot do garbage collection in a kernel and get predictable performance for interrupt routines, context switching, signal delivery and the like. C and C++ are very common Kernel languages and for very good reason, pointers. Folks hate them, misuse them, cast them, and bad mouth them all the time, but they are *fast*, flexible and a great way to shoot yourself in the foot when you don't pay attention.
I suppose there is room for improving parts of the kernel by dropping into assembly, but I seriously doubt it will be worth the effort to do much of that. Certainly you'd not do the whole thing. Besides, C++ compilers are really very good at optimizing things anyway, so you'd not get much gain overall.
After watching a few videos of "Linuz"... I can assure you that he's pretty harmless, at least in person. I think he puts on the aura of raging narcissist on purpose and if you think about it, the whole persona serves him and Linux well. So far the Kernel project hasn't been fragmented and the project has been extremely stable for many years. This is not the normal course of an open source project, especially one of this visibility. This is largely due to "Linuz" and his persona.
But this is not to say I think the kernel is in good hands with him at the wheel. I worry about succession should "Linuz" become unavailable (say he's hit by a bus to use his illustration about why you should use git). I worry that the succession battle would be bad for the Kernel and the transition from the dictator rule to something else would be bumpy. Linuz could fix that by starting to transition what he does to his trusted few, and publish a clear future succession plan. But the future is "Difficult to see. Always in motion is the future."
Yes. One part with a middle of the road CPU and a middle of the road GPU.
The one advantage I see technically to this approach is you can get data from the CPU to the GPU without having to touch a trace on the motherboard. The over all complexity of the system goes down and the CPU to GPU performance goes up.
The disadvantages are many. More heat/power dissipation on the one part means it will run hotter (not that AMD doesn't do that anyway). Makes you pay for the GPU, even if you don't use/want it. Higher latency between the memory and the GPU which is KEY to a GPU performance. I'm sure there's more..
All this aside. Bully for AMD. These are great devices for low cost systems with reasonable performance.
Full Disclosure: I have a current low end AMD/GPU based system that I really like. It was CHEAP, and performs well enough for what I do.
No I wouldn't, but PT Barnum is right "There's a sucker born every minute" so somebody will.
Never said it wasn't the same for BitCoin. Problem is, law enforcement is a local thing for the most part. Your paintings get stolen from your house, you call the local police. But who do you call if all your BitCoin disappeared in China and you live in North America? Who's going to care?
Your local police will take your report, but they are not going to investigate. You could possibly call a national law enforcement organization, but they are not likely to even want to take your report. You could call law enforcement in China, but you have nearly zero chance getting them interested in looking into the crime even if you spoke their language.
Nobody is going to do anything about some monetary crime committed overseas or committed against someone overseas. It's either out of their jurisdiction or the victim is nobody they care about.
Yea.. That modded up thing hurts.. ;).
But, what's the meaning of the current 5 on my original post then? LOL
... I'm done with the flame throwing now, though I suppose you are not....
Flame ON!!
And yet you write like a 15 year-old...
Ouch... That hurts dude...
Seriously? I'm an electrical engineer turned programmer, I'm lucky I *can* write..
clean-room reverse engineering is legal.
But patent infringement is not.
Just remember that all M$ has to do is portray a believable story that using something is possibly a problem for the user. It's called FUD, and in this case would be easy.
Shsssss.... Be quiet! It's all about perceived value and you are causing a problem here!
Bitcoin management services, where they keep the wallet for you and you don't have to worry about running bitcoin yourself.
And people fall for this? Well, if you are speculating in BitCoin you are into high risk or a sucker... PT Barnum was right.
Hey, anybody out there who doesn't like holding your own BitCoin wallet, I'll take care of that for you. Just let me hold *your* money...
I seriously doubt it.. I'm older than Bill Gates..
Another exchange bites the dust, millions lost!
BitCoin has some *serious* problems, mostly caused by not being officially sanctioned currency that is regulated... But then, that's it's strong point too. But, being a pirate has it's down days. So, if you sleep with dogs, you wake up with fleas (or in this case, w/o your BitCoin. ..
Oh the humanity... Yawn.