I was a little short because I thought that somebody was about to bring up that incompetent failure of a submarine officer Chris Brownfield's book. He spread some disinformation about that incident.
The point is that happened decades ago and the US Navy no longer does it, nor have the crews trained how to do it.
The institutional knowledge would need to be rebuilt almost from scratch.
I'm not talking about the skills of operating the sonar equipment to track a contact but the day-to-day skills of how to operate the boat without making any accidental noises that would give your position away for days or weeks at a time plus the motivation that it takes to make the crew care enough to make sure they don't make any mistakes. That culture is long gone.
I guarantee you that the Chinese SSBNs are loud enough to be tracked with them
All the ones that we know about are too loud.
How many container ships leave China for the port of LA every week? Is SOSUS sensitive enough to distinguish the noise of an SSBN that is following one closely enough?
What about a technician repairing those launch circuits though?
No.
I've never been on an SSBN but I can tell you what is involved with launching a Tomahawk cruise missile.
First of all, the missiles are not kept powered on all the time. There is a process that you must go through to do that.
Second, the physical process of launching the missile involves a number of systems that involve people directly manipulating valves, pumps, tanks and other non-electronic hardware.
There is absolutely no way for this process to happen by itself accidentally.
Surely we have the assets to track three SSBNs, particularly when at least one of them is in port at any given time?
I was in the Atlantic fleet, but to the best of my knowledge the US Navy doesn't do that kind of thing anymore, at least not all the time.
I can tell you that fast attack submarines in general did not train and practice for this kind of mission and the officers in general did not take the threat posed by another nuclear navy seriously at all while I was there.
The institutional knowledge and skills to successfully pull off the kind of sub-on-sub tracking that they did in the cold war did not exist anywhere that I could see.
It's my understanding that the Chinese are at least a generation or two behind us in terms of submarine technology. Even if they've received assistance from the Russians it would seem unlikely that they could construct an SSBN that could travel all the way across the Pacific without being tracked by the US Navy. If they did manage such a feat then I certainly hope that heads are rolling at Pearl Harbor and the Pentagon....
You don't understand how big the Pacific ocean is.
The only way that you stop an SSBN is to maintain a large fast attack fleet and track each and every one of them as they leave port and follow them until the return.
The possibility of an SSBN sneaking up on the American coast was never discounted. This type of attack has always been deterred by US second strike capability.
God, please tell me that it's impossible for the Navy to just sorta go "whoops" and launch something like this. This was done by someone with a plan and authorization, or something is seriously wrong.
A person could not accidentally launch a Trident missile bu bumping into the launch button any more than a NASA janitor could bump into something and accidentally launch the Space Shuttle.
Trident missiles are not like Estes model rockets. Getting one to the point where a launch is even possible isn't something that happens accidentally and it's not plausible that the US Navy would be conducting the kind of exercises where an accidental launch was even possible in that part of the ocean without taking precautions like NOATMs
A capitalist will commit fraud and manipulate the law to make it legal. Or will use eminent domain or asset forfeiture to get the government to take it from you.
What you described is not capitalism. Just because a bunch of statist pricks have hijacked the term doesn't mean the meaning of capitalism has changed.
The bankers at the top knew. Executives have testified under oath that they knew and even without that testimony the fact that their trading desks were shorting the same securities that the mortgage securitization desks were selling proves that they knew what was happening.
Any inflation reduces the 'real' amount of outstanding debts.
That sounds great in theory until you are the person whose income is remaining constant or declining while the cost of living is going up.
Of course, the real answer is for people with unserviceable debt to go through bankruptcy and clear it but you can thank Congress for making that more difficult.
All governments have a love-hate relationship with freedom. Human livestock is more productive the more freedom you give it, but at the same time with more freedom comes more recognition that the farmers aren't necessary.
Ideally governments want to give their livestock just enough freedom to maximize profits and no more.
The stockholders would have been wiped out. Some of the bondholders would have been wiped out.
Smaller regional banks would have taken the business, borrowers who were underwater would have been foreclosed on and probably went through bankruptcy, clearing the debt overhang.
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I was a little short because I thought that somebody was about to bring up that incompetent failure of a submarine officer Chris Brownfield's book. He spread some disinformation about that incident.
The point is that happened decades ago and the US Navy no longer does it, nor have the crews trained how to do it.
The institutional knowledge would need to be rebuilt almost from scratch.
I'm not talking about the skills of operating the sonar equipment to track a contact but the day-to-day skills of how to operate the boat without making any accidental noises that would give your position away for days or weeks at a time plus the motivation that it takes to make the crew care enough to make sure they don't make any mistakes. That culture is long gone.
All the ones that we know about are too loud.
How many container ships leave China for the port of LA every week? Is SOSUS sensitive enough to distinguish the noise of an SSBN that is following one closely enough?
Yes
Bumpy
No.
I've never been on an SSBN but I can tell you what is involved with launching a Tomahawk cruise missile.
First of all, the missiles are not kept powered on all the time. There is a process that you must go through to do that.
Second, the physical process of launching the missile involves a number of systems that involve people directly manipulating valves, pumps, tanks and other non-electronic hardware.
There is absolutely no way for this process to happen by itself accidentally.
I was in the Atlantic fleet, but to the best of my knowledge the US Navy doesn't do that kind of thing anymore, at least not all the time.
I can tell you that fast attack submarines in general did not train and practice for this kind of mission and the officers in general did not take the threat posed by another nuclear navy seriously at all while I was there.
The institutional knowledge and skills to successfully pull off the kind of sub-on-sub tracking that they did in the cold war did not exist anywhere that I could see.
SLBMS are intercontinental. The whole point of an SSBN is that it can be anywhere in the ocean and still hit you.
USS Hartford May 2000 - February 2006
You don't understand how big the Pacific ocean is.
The only way that you stop an SSBN is to maintain a large fast attack fleet and track each and every one of them as they leave port and follow them until the return.
The possibility of an SSBN sneaking up on the American coast was never discounted. This type of attack has always been deterred by US second strike capability.
A person could not accidentally launch a Trident missile bu bumping into the launch button any more than a NASA janitor could bump into something and accidentally launch the Space Shuttle.
Trident missiles are not like Estes model rockets. Getting one to the point where a launch is even possible isn't something that happens accidentally and it's not plausible that the US Navy would be conducting the kind of exercises where an accidental launch was even possible in that part of the ocean without taking precautions like NOATMs
SLBM launches don't work like that.
It would make just as much sense for you to spill coffee on your keyboard and accidentally install Windows Vista.
Check those dates and compared to the date of the event in TFA.
What you described is not capitalism. Just because a bunch of statist pricks have hijacked the term doesn't mean the meaning of capitalism has changed.
There's nothing socialists hate worse that failing to get their hands on someone else's money.
Android and Maemo
Because it doesn't work, at least on Android with the previous beta.
The plugin is included with newer versions of Android but Firefox does not use it.
Unfortunately there's no mention of Flash support.
Well Ben Bernanke just announced a 20% inflation tax on the USD so that should make you happy.
The bankers at the top knew. Executives have testified under oath that they knew and even without that testimony the fact that their trading desks were shorting the same securities that the mortgage securitization desks were selling proves that they knew what was happening.
That sounds great in theory until you are the person whose income is remaining constant or declining while the cost of living is going up.
Of course, the real answer is for people with unserviceable debt to go through bankruptcy and clear it but you can thank Congress for making that more difficult.
All governments have a love-hate relationship with freedom. Human livestock is more productive the more freedom you give it, but at the same time with more freedom comes more recognition that the farmers aren't necessary.
Ideally governments want to give their livestock just enough freedom to maximize profits and no more.
The stockholders would have been wiped out. Some of the bondholders would have been wiped out.
Smaller regional banks would have taken the business, borrowers who were underwater would have been foreclosed on and probably went through bankruptcy, clearing the debt overhang.
That's true. Historians a century from now will probably pinpoint 1999 as the beginning of the Depression.