other cheap tablet hacke last year while I was at work, made into a listening device, I smashed that one. This crap follows me wherever I go. I'd move out of state, but I have to figure this out or it will keep happeninf
I had a friend who thought people were coming after him and putting listening devices in his home. Like you, he could provide no solid evidence that this was true, but he believed it to be the case anyways. Turns out he was paranoid schizophrenic. I'm not joking here. You sound like you might be as well, and should probably seek professional psychiatric help.
Like I posted before, thanks for your 'input'. I'm as sane as anyone else is, just had a very "interesting" few years of late. More to this story than I wish to get into, already I've said more than necessary. What's that quote from the famous psychologist from the 1930's? Something like, "It's not paranoia when they're really out to get you." That's been really the deal in my life the last 3-5 years. And yes, I've seen the Mel Gibson movie with the tin-foil room, no, I don't have a compulsion to buy the same novel over and over.:-)
Why are you a target? If you are actually a victim here, and not some person suffering from paranoid delusions, what makes you worthy of the risk of a close range attack?
I've explained elsewhere here, somebody who's very much a lady from my past still cares about me, I think. She would have the resources, if she so chose, to pay to 'monitor' me. As someone else posted, sounds like a bad novel, and I agree. Story of my life, lately...
How much meth do you turkey baste, and how long have you been up?
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Never messed with that s**t, never will. Been off drinking beer for over 6 years now, at least. Not paranoid-delusional, though that would have explained it all very neatly. Thanks for your 'input'.
Thank you for your post. I have moved several times the last 12 months, can't keep doing it. Making my stand here. The same shit has happened to me for over a year now, I can't prevent it,.... (yet!).... Timothy and/. 's printing this story is helping me a whole hell of a lot, new things I haven't known about until today.:-)
Too pat. I don't believe in coincidence anymore, not after all I've been through the last 3 years, more to my story than I'm letting on here. It's real. Caught on last year to a 'forced bluetooth attack' (google it, you'll learn as I had to) when my feature phone vibrated while hanging in a 'friends' garage. No text, no phone call, but something made it vibrate. (Someone was outside with a 'hacking device') My 'friend' played a little too dumb, and checking that phone later, I noticed a big slowdown in response when pressing buttons, my first solid proof (to me) that something was definitely wrong.
After the "forced bluetooth hack" happens, anything is possible to do to the phone. The routers at my place are not in my control, unfortunately. Until I can move to a secure place, I'm forced to learn a lot of new stuff. Really, thanks for your input.
5. Install Wifi Protector. It prevents the ARP cache poisoning techniques commonly used to packet sniff on open WiFi networks, as well as DoS attacks in the same vein.
Looks interesting, I hadn't found that one, lots of apps available on android. Thank you.:-)
1. Put bluetooth in invisible mode unless you require somebody to find it.
2. Don't put the devices you add on auto send/receive.
3. Try putting an antivirus with a firewall. There are quite a few on the market.
4. Ask the network admin (of the WiFi at your home) to disallow listing of devices on the network.
I suppose that should get you started.
Thanks for the advice, wish I could. When it's hacked, I get an error on both Wifi and Bluetooth, though I know that there is nothing wrong with them. I recently factory reset the phone away from the home's wifi signal, activated via Virgin Mobile, and all features worked fine again. That lasted only a few days though...
Root it - you paid for it, why not own it, too? Then you can do your own upgrades...
CM7, 9
Since it was hard-hacked earlier this year, several attempts to root have failed at the very last step for me, and I know I typed in the exact string shown in Android Forums. I will be trying again. And I've been using 3g all summer, fast enough. When I factory reset the phone recently (away from the house's wifi), Wifi came back on with no problem. That lasted about 3 days. My Android tablet's (v4.0.1) wifi worked for the first few days also with no problem. Now at this house it's somehow blocked, works fine at the public library where I am now.
Not so. Other posts have backed me up. As I've stated elsewhere, my phone's been hard-hacked via a USB cable. All due respect to you, this is an issue when someone is targeted with the right hardware. Don't believe, google "hacking android", here's one fast link... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/25/android-hackers_n_1704341.html
CM9 beta, huh? Like I've posted elsewhere here, this hard-hacked phone won't take the final step in the standard rooting procedure listed in Android Forums, I'll be trying all these things eventually. It's a quest!
Thank you for that. I am going to do more reading up. Tried to 'root' from an Android site about 2 months ago, it wouldn't accept the final step. Programs WERE added to my Optimus V. Worse comes to worse, I'll buy a dupe and never let it out of my sight. This way no one can 'hard hack' it by connecting a computer device to the phones USB. A 'soft hack' via wireless can always be erased by doing a factory reset, from what I've learned. But a hard hack, if I knew how to undo that, I wouldn't have posted this submission. Thanks again, to you and everyone. I'm saving and will be referring back to this/. story many times in the future, I know.
1.Bluejacking
2.Bluesnarfing
3.Bluebugging
4.Bluetoothing
Firstly let’s take a look into Bluejacking. In Bluejacking a hacker might send unsolicited messages to the victim in the form of a business card or a mobile contact with a text that may look intimidating to read. In many cases hacker may also send sounds like a ring tone. The victim’s mobile could then be infiltrated and he might never know what has hit him. Bluejacking messages can also be viewed as spam messages with emails. There have also been reports about people getting hacked by Trojan Horse’s which could mean a serious compromise.
Bluesnarfing is considered a serious compromise in the category of Bluetooth hacking especially if the information vulnerable, is quite critical, as such attacks can allow the hacker access to victims; contact list, text messages, emails and even private photos and videos. The hacker can use brute force attack even if the device is invisible to guess the victims MAC address.
The third type of hacking mechanism is Bluebugging, in which the hacker uses sophisticated attacks to gain control of victims mobile. It works just like Trojan horses, where the hacker can manipulate the users phone the way he desires by executing commands on the victims phone. The hacker could forward mobile calls from the victim’s mobile to his own device and can even manipulate the mobile to follow a Bluetooth headset instructions like; receive call, send messages etc.
The final type is Bluetoothing which is just like social engineering; the hacker can use methods like harassment or luring the victim to fall his prey to his intentions.
I'll get an iPhone, as soon as you put $600 in my paypal account. Oh, and I'll need 2 hundred more for the special charger/USB connecters, and another few hundred for the paid iPhone apps that I have free on Android. Thanks.:-)
I have a 'lamer' phone because it's my first smartphone, the reviews I read before I bought it all said it was a very good for the money ($100) starter smartphone. And for the most part, I've been very impressed with it, takes great pictures, call quality is there, and I have a 600mhz, internet capable pocket computer, that also plays my 7500+ Mp3's, and I get all the old video game systems back. Seems like any one of these reasons would be worth $100.
I appreciate all the replies here (except for the "get an iPhone" one, not an option!)
I am not in control of the routers here, an extra one 'appeared' recently), though I will be speaking to my landlady about using a simple password on her router for a securer connection. I don't use bluetooth at all, though I noticed it and sync were both active a few days ago, and it wasn't from me.
Lastly, with wi-fi definately turned off on the phone's main screen switch, the app "android assistant +18" showed it was still active. Only by pulling the battery and clearing the phone (by holding down the power button for 15 seconds) does it clear for a time.
Thanks again for all these great suggestions, I wish it was a figment of my imagination. I've had enough of a crash course in android this year to know it's real, especially when I have family members who are in law enforcement and gov't jobs that they can't/won't talk about. Those people do have access to the 'interesting' toys...
"If it's a choice between paving the way for tyranny and risking the loss of your digital life at the press of a button by some deceived customer service rep, and having to remember a password, I think the password is the way to go. The former works better, but the latter fails better. A note to anyone from Amazon PR contemplating sending me a comment regarding this: I expect that any comment from Amazon regarding this story will disclose whether and when Amazon can delete files (including files loaded by users) from Kindles, and whether DRM-free files can still be deleted. Also: as a policy, I do not quote anonymous spokespeople for firms unless they are telling me something that could cost them their jobs."
So if this story is true as stated, and she has bought lots of e-books from Amazon, will Amazon refund her all the money she's spent on them? Or does Amazon just 'absorb' that $$$? I'd sue Amazon for actual damages, court and lawyer fees and damages. I can see the future of e-commerce, and this a bad trend starting here.
Hi techie guys, 'normal' non-super techie guy here, and I've been reading all your posts about certificates & the lack of security and all, and I do have a question....
Can you guys all get together on this and FIX IT??!!! WTF??! I thought you all were SUPPOSED TO KNOW how to make financial transactions secure! Sounds like everyone's passing the buck (no pun intended) here, blaming it all on somebody else's bad coding. That's not a reasonable excuse for a user's banking activity to be left so open. Either it's secure or it isn't, even 99.9% secure is not good enough. I mean, thanks for reminding me again why I don't entrust my finances to personal tech, I stay old school offline, and deal directly at a bank office, but c'mon! Come up with a solid secure system that works!!! The people of the world would be reallyreally grateful to you then, right now it's like playing russian roulette when you use any online form of banking, odds are that the hammer will fall on an empty chamber, but sooner or later...
When people say to me, "He/she made me feel bad", I say to them,"No, you 'allowed' them to make you feel bad.". If you let what someone says to you determine your mood for the rest of the day or longer, then you're letting them rule you and control your emotions. And if that is happening, then you are their fool, and I choose not to be anyone's fool in life.
When someone tries to use anger as a bully tactic on me, I recognize it right away (practice makes perfect), and I think how glad I am that I'm not 'that' a%#*ole. Then I'll try to shake them off like a dog shakes off a flea, and go on with my day. If after a while they think they can keep up with their bad behaviorr, then I have to stop and call them on it and scold them, explaining to them, sometimes with a raised voice, that they have no right to speak to me that way and tone. "I didn't give you that right, I don't speak to you that way, and I expect common courtesy in return" They'll probably glare at you, (so what?), then stomp off not knowing how to reply. If you can, do this when alone with the person, it's between you and him really, but with spectators works good too.:-)
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I had a friend who thought people were coming after him and putting listening devices in his home. Like you, he could provide no solid evidence that this was true, but he believed it to be the case anyways. Turns out he was paranoid schizophrenic. I'm not joking here. You sound like you might be as well, and should probably seek professional psychiatric help.
Like I posted before, thanks for your 'input'. I'm as sane as anyone else is, just had a very "interesting" few years of late. More to this story than I wish to get into, already I've said more than necessary. What's that quote from the famous psychologist from the 1930's? Something like, "It's not paranoia when they're really out to get you." That's been really the deal in my life the last 3-5 years. And yes, I've seen the Mel Gibson movie with the tin-foil room, no, I don't have a compulsion to buy the same novel over and over. :-)
Why are you a target? If you are actually a victim here, and not some person suffering from paranoid delusions, what makes you worthy of the risk of a close range attack?
I've explained elsewhere here, somebody who's very much a lady from my past still cares about me, I think. She would have the resources, if she so chose, to pay to 'monitor' me. As someone else posted, sounds like a bad novel, and I agree. Story of my life, lately...
How much meth do you turkey baste, and how long have you been up?
Captcha=discord
Are the captchas learning?
Never messed with that s**t, never will. Been off drinking beer for over 6 years now, at least. Not paranoid-delusional, though that would have explained it all very neatly. Thanks for your 'input'.
Thank you for your post. I have moved several times the last 12 months, can't keep doing it. Making my stand here. The same shit has happened to me for over a year now, I can't prevent it, .... (yet!).... Timothy and /. 's printing this story is helping me a whole hell of a lot, new things I haven't known about until today. :-)
Too pat. I don't believe in coincidence anymore, not after all I've been through the last 3 years, more to my story than I'm letting on here. It's real. Caught on last year to a 'forced bluetooth attack' (google it, you'll learn as I had to) when my feature phone vibrated while hanging in a 'friends' garage. No text, no phone call, but something made it vibrate. (Someone was outside with a 'hacking device') My 'friend' played a little too dumb, and checking that phone later, I noticed a big slowdown in response when pressing buttons, my first solid proof (to me) that something was definitely wrong.
After the "forced bluetooth hack" happens, anything is possible to do to the phone. The routers at my place are not in my control, unfortunately. Until I can move to a secure place, I'm forced to learn a lot of new stuff. Really, thanks for your input.
5. Install Wifi Protector. It prevents the ARP cache poisoning techniques commonly used to packet sniff on open WiFi networks, as well as DoS attacks in the same vein.
Looks interesting, I hadn't found that one, lots of apps available on android. Thank you. :-)
1. Put bluetooth in invisible mode unless you require somebody to find it. 2. Don't put the devices you add on auto send/receive. 3. Try putting an antivirus with a firewall. There are quite a few on the market. 4. Ask the network admin (of the WiFi at your home) to disallow listing of devices on the network. I suppose that should get you started.
Thanks for the advice, wish I could. When it's hacked, I get an error on both Wifi and Bluetooth, though I know that there is nothing wrong with them. I recently factory reset the phone away from the home's wifi signal, activated via Virgin Mobile, and all features worked fine again. That lasted only a few days though...
I bet you bought the cheapest you could find. $0 on contract when the phone was new?
All the people who I know that have Android based phones never have problems as you describe.
Pretty much, VirginMobile branded LG OptimusV running 2.2.2 ... $100 and $25 a month for unlimited text/3g, 300 minutes. I'm not cheap, I'm frugal..... Okay, I'm cheap!
Root it - you paid for it, why not own it, too? Then you can do your own upgrades... CM7, 9
Since it was hard-hacked earlier this year, several attempts to root have failed at the very last step for me, and I know I typed in the exact string shown in Android Forums. I will be trying again. And I've been using 3g all summer, fast enough. When I factory reset the phone recently (away from the house's wifi), Wifi came back on with no problem. That lasted about 3 days. My Android tablet's (v4.0.1) wifi worked for the first few days also with no problem. Now at this house it's somehow blocked, works fine at the public library where I am now.
Not so. Other posts have backed me up. As I've stated elsewhere, my phone's been hard-hacked via a USB cable. All due respect to you, this is an issue when someone is targeted with the right hardware. Don't believe, google "hacking android", here's one fast link... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/25/android-hackers_n_1704341.html
CM9 beta, huh? Like I've posted elsewhere here, this hard-hacked phone won't take the final step in the standard rooting procedure listed in Android Forums, I'll be trying all these things eventually. It's a quest!
Thank you for that. I am going to do more reading up. Tried to 'root' from an Android site about 2 months ago, it wouldn't accept the final step. Programs WERE added to my Optimus V. Worse comes to worse, I'll buy a dupe and never let it out of my sight. This way no one can 'hard hack' it by connecting a computer device to the phones USB. A 'soft hack' via wireless can always be erased by doing a factory reset, from what I've learned. But a hard hack, if I knew how to undo that, I wouldn't have posted this submission. Thanks again, to you and everyone. I'm saving and will be referring back to this /. story many times in the future, I know.
Why don't you turn Bluetooth off until you need it? I am not convinced you are being 'hacked'.
see above, or click this link, bluetooth does not have to be on to be accessed. Shocked me too. http://hassam.hubpages.com/hub/Types-Of-Bluetooth-Hacks-And-Its-Security-Issues
1.Bluejacking 2.Bluesnarfing 3.Bluebugging 4.Bluetoothing Firstly let’s take a look into Bluejacking. In Bluejacking a hacker might send unsolicited messages to the victim in the form of a business card or a mobile contact with a text that may look intimidating to read. In many cases hacker may also send sounds like a ring tone. The victim’s mobile could then be infiltrated and he might never know what has hit him. Bluejacking messages can also be viewed as spam messages with emails. There have also been reports about people getting hacked by Trojan Horse’s which could mean a serious compromise. Bluesnarfing is considered a serious compromise in the category of Bluetooth hacking especially if the information vulnerable, is quite critical, as such attacks can allow the hacker access to victims; contact list, text messages, emails and even private photos and videos. The hacker can use brute force attack even if the device is invisible to guess the victims MAC address. The third type of hacking mechanism is Bluebugging, in which the hacker uses sophisticated attacks to gain control of victims mobile. It works just like Trojan horses, where the hacker can manipulate the users phone the way he desires by executing commands on the victims phone. The hacker could forward mobile calls from the victim’s mobile to his own device and can even manipulate the mobile to follow a Bluetooth headset instructions like; receive call, send messages etc. The final type is Bluetoothing which is just like social engineering; the hacker can use methods like harassment or luring the victim to fall his prey to his intentions.
Yep, at end of last year when my newly bought feature phone 'buzzed' for no reason while hanging with a 'friend' in his garage mancave, that's when I started to investigate phone security. Googled 'forced bluetooth hack' and read links like http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7461-new-hack-cracks-secure-bluetooth-devices.html AND this http://hassam.hubpages.com/hub/Types-Of-Bluetooth-Hacks-And-Its-Security-Issues and I could go on ......
I'll get an iPhone, as soon as you put $600 in my paypal account. Oh, and I'll need 2 hundred more for the special charger /USB connecters, and another few hundred for the paid iPhone apps that I have free on Android. Thanks. :-)
I have a 'lamer' phone because it's my first smartphone, the reviews I read before I bought it all said it was a very good for the money ($100) starter smartphone. And for the most part, I've been very impressed with it, takes great pictures, call quality is there, and I have a 600mhz, internet capable pocket computer, that also plays my 7500+ Mp3's, and I get all the old video game systems back. Seems like any one of these reasons would be worth $100.
I am not in control of the routers here, an extra one 'appeared' recently), though I will be speaking to my landlady about using a simple password on her router for a securer connection. I don't use bluetooth at all, though I noticed it and sync were both active a few days ago, and it wasn't from me.
Lastly, with wi-fi definately turned off on the phone's main screen switch, the app "android assistant +18" showed it was still active. Only by pulling the battery and clearing the phone (by holding down the power button for 15 seconds) does it clear for a time.
Thanks again for all these great suggestions, I wish it was a figment of my imagination. I've had enough of a crash course in android this year to know it's real, especially when I have family members who are in law enforcement and gov't jobs that they can't/won't talk about. Those people do have access to the 'interesting' toys...
"If it's a choice between paving the way for tyranny and risking the loss of your digital life at the press of a button by some deceived customer service rep, and having to remember a password, I think the password is the way to go. The former works better, but the latter fails better. A note to anyone from Amazon PR contemplating sending me a comment regarding this: I expect that any comment from Amazon regarding this story will disclose whether and when Amazon can delete files (including files loaded by users) from Kindles, and whether DRM-free files can still be deleted. Also: as a policy, I do not quote anonymous spokespeople for firms unless they are telling me something that could cost them their jobs."
So if this story is true as stated, and she has bought lots of e-books from Amazon, will Amazon refund her all the money she's spent on them? Or does Amazon just 'absorb' that $$$? I'd sue Amazon for actual damages, court and lawyer fees and damages. I can see the future of e-commerce, and this a bad trend starting here.
Can you guys all get together on this and FIX IT??!!! WTF??! I thought you all were SUPPOSED TO KNOW how to make financial transactions secure! Sounds like everyone's passing the buck (no pun intended) here, blaming it all on somebody else's bad coding. That's not a reasonable excuse for a user's banking activity to be left so open. Either it's secure or it isn't, even 99.9% secure is not good enough. I mean, thanks for reminding me again why I don't entrust my finances to personal tech, I stay old school offline, and deal directly at a bank office, but c'mon! Come up with a solid secure system that works!!! The people of the world would be reallyreally grateful to you then, right now it's like playing russian roulette when you use any online form of banking, odds are that the hammer will fall on an empty chamber, but sooner or later...
When someone tries to use anger as a bully tactic on me, I recognize it right away (practice makes perfect), and I think how glad I am that I'm not 'that' a%#*ole. Then I'll try to shake them off like a dog shakes off a flea, and go on with my day. If after a while they think they can keep up with their bad behaviorr, then I have to stop and call them on it and scold them, explaining to them, sometimes with a raised voice, that they have no right to speak to me that way and tone. "I didn't give you that right, I don't speak to you that way, and I expect common courtesy in return" They'll probably glare at you, (so what?), then stomp off not knowing how to reply. If you can, do this when alone with the person, it's between you and him really, but with spectators works good too. :-)
Actually, the FDA has classified alcohol as a 'legal' drug for more than 2 decades now.
Could you be Mitt Romney posting as an AC?