How the hell does asking someone to identify themselves constitute a poll tax?!
All these people have IDs already. How the heck else are they able to cash thier social security checks?
And if i'm not mistaken, part of the bill requires that those who can not afford an ID, or those that are unable to leave their homes would actually be visited by a state employee and take their picture in that person's home!
Requiring an ID for voting has NOTHING to do with disenfranchising minorities.
-john
as an aside, I see your prejudices poking thru by assuming that poor people are black (and vice versa).
...our legislatures are more interested in corporate giveaways and popularity contests...In that light, I think the courts are forced to be the adults around here, whether they want to be or not.
What?
The court just ruled that there is no such thing as private property. How more interested in corporate giveaways can you get?
1. Define a set of values
2. Tell the truth
3. Respect human dignity
4. Recognize the complexity of human nature
5. Be distrustful of unchecked power.
6. Foster a diversity of views
7. Challenge "group think."
8. Take time to listen and to think.
9. Encourage criticism and self-examination
10. Correct mistakes
2) Someone is challenging the votes of around 15,000 voters on the grounds that they are illegal immigrants. The evidence? Their last names don't sound American enough.
I have to reply to this.
This is just not true. A fair number of registrations were accepted even tho the "I am an American citizen" box was not checked, and/or there was no SS-num given.
For the record if you are not a citizen you can't vote. So if the registrant did not check that box, you CAN NOT register that person to vote! Simple as that.
There's also several hundred people who listed their address as the state capital (or some similar state building). Which just screams fraud.
Let us not forget that a lot of registration collectors were in fact being paid based on the number of registrations they brought in. Didn't matter if they were valid or not, just as long as you brought a lot in. I forget which state, but some one even received crack for registrations!
I bought one of these things a while ago, and after a very slight bump about 3 days after I bought it, the scroll button got knocked out of alignment and hosed the entire thing.
The player itself (software) was just fine, but the physical unit itself is completely crap.
George Bush miraculously jumped to the top of a 500+ person waiting list to get his berth in the Nat'l Guard and then failed to show up for a flight physical after the US spent approx $1M to train him as a pilot. He flew the planes for crying out loud. Jeezus, do a little research. You don't put a doofus up a plane flying right next to you. He could kill you both.
after telling people throughout the campaign that it was their money
Sorry, to break this to you, but it IS my money. Go read the thread on the NWS and lookat how people think the data from the NWS should be free because WE are paying for it already thru taxes.
need a tax cut to "stimulate" the economy
It's worked whenever it's been done. Just ask JFK.
Drasticially increased the size of government.
I'll give you that one. He's also spending way too much. He really needs to cut back on all the spending.
Iraq stuff
You might want to read some words of CLinton et al on Iraq and Al qaeda/WMDs: Al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq. (from the US indictment of Bin Laden in 1998)
CIA director George Tenet in a letter to Congress on October 7, 2002:
--Our understanding of the relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda is evolving and is based on sources of varying reliability. Some of the information we have received comes from detainees, including some of high rank.
--We have solid reporting of senior level contacts between Iraq and Al Qaeda going back a decade.
--Credible information indicates that Iraq and Al Qaeda have discussed safe haven and reciprocal nonaggression.
--Since Operation Enduring Freedom, we have solid evidence of the presence in Iraq of Al Qaeda members, including some that have been in Baghdad.
--We have credible reporting that Al Qaeda leaders sought contacts in Iraq who could help them acquire W.M.D. capabilities. The reporting also stated that Iraq has provided training to Al Qaeda members in the areas of poisons and gases and making conventional bombs.
--Iraq's increasing support to extremist Palestinians coupled with growing indications of relationship with Al Qaeda suggest that Baghdad's links to terrorists will increase, even absent U.S. military action.
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How the hell does asking someone to identify themselves constitute a poll tax?!
All these people have IDs already. How the heck else are they able to cash thier social security checks?
And if i'm not mistaken, part of the bill requires that those who can not afford an ID, or those that are unable to leave their homes would actually be visited by a state employee and take their picture in that person's home!
Requiring an ID for voting has NOTHING to do with disenfranchising minorities.
-john
as an aside, I see your prejudices poking thru by assuming that poor people are black (and vice versa).
...our legislatures are more interested in corporate giveaways and popularity contests...In that light, I think the courts are forced to be the adults around here, whether they want to be or not.
What?
The court just ruled that there is no such thing as private property. How more interested in corporate giveaways can you get?
-john
1. Define a set of values
2. Tell the truth
3. Respect human dignity
4. Recognize the complexity of human nature
5. Be distrustful of unchecked power.
6. Foster a diversity of views
7. Challenge "group think."
8. Take time to listen and to think.
9. Encourage criticism and self-examination
10. Correct mistakes
Someone should send this list to CBS.
-john
2) Someone is challenging the votes of around 15,000 voters on the grounds that they are illegal immigrants. The evidence? Their last names don't sound American enough.
I have to reply to this.
This is just not true. A fair number of registrations were accepted even tho the "I am an American citizen" box was not checked, and/or there was no SS-num given.
For the record if you are not a citizen you can't vote. So if the registrant did not check that box, you CAN NOT register that person to vote! Simple as that.
There's also several hundred people who listed their address as the state capital (or some similar state building). Which just screams fraud.
Let us not forget that a lot of registration collectors were in fact being paid based on the number of registrations they brought in. Didn't matter if they were valid or not, just as long as you brought a lot in. I forget which state, but some one even received crack for registrations!
-john
Enough with the "Fox is all Republicans" crap.
Using your logic, one can only assume that EVERY other news outlet is an organ of the Democratic Natl Committee.
Sheesh.
Just because they have some more conservative hosts than the other news outlets does not make them in cahoots with the Repubs.
This argument is getting old.
--john
p.s. Wasn't daily kos getting paid by Dean at one point? Can't remember if it was mentioned at the time. Or at least before it was discovered.
Conservates want to make things like they used to be (or keep them as they are). Liberals want change.
So according to you, Bush and the Republicans are liberals. And all the Democrats in Congress are conservatives.
Welfare? Social Security? Confront communism head-on. Confront radical Islam and terrorism head-on.
All things that changed (or desire to change) due to "conservatives."
"Conservatively" speaking, the Soviet Union would still be around, because no one would have wanted to change the status quo.
You may be technically correct, but those definitions have no relevance to politics.
-john
I bought one of these things a while ago, and after a very slight bump about 3 days after I bought it, the scroll button got knocked out of alignment and hosed the entire thing.
The player itself (software) was just fine, but the physical unit itself is completely crap.
-john
George Bush miraculously jumped to the top of a 500+ person waiting list to get his berth in the Nat'l Guard and then failed to show up for a flight physical after the US spent approx $1M to train him as a pilot.
He flew the planes for crying out loud.
Jeezus, do a little research. You don't put a doofus up a plane flying right next to you. He could kill you both.
sheesh. facts my ass.
-john
They were given to the WH by CBS.
ok. obvious answer: if there's all this "evidence" lying around, why does CBS have to resort to blatant forgeries?
I hope the networks will give this issue the time and merit it deserves.
So why doesn't CBS bring the Swift Boat Vets and put them on the air? Or why has no one from that group been on the Today show?
-john
Sorry, to break this to you, but it IS my money. Go read the thread on the NWS and lookat how people think the data from the NWS should be free because WE are paying for it already thru taxes.
need a tax cut to "stimulate" the economy
It's worked whenever it's been done. Just ask JFK.
Drasticially increased the size of government.
I'll give you that one. He's also spending way too much. He really needs to cut back on all the spending.
Iraq stuff
You might want to read some words of CLinton et al on Iraq and Al qaeda/WMDs:
Al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq.
(from the US indictment of Bin Laden in 1998)
CIA director George Tenet in a letter to Congress on October 7, 2002:
--Our understanding of the relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda is evolving and is based on sources of varying reliability. Some of the information we have received comes from detainees, including some of high rank.
--We have solid reporting of senior level contacts between Iraq and Al Qaeda going back a decade.
--Credible information indicates that Iraq and Al Qaeda have discussed safe haven and reciprocal nonaggression.
--Since Operation Enduring Freedom, we have solid evidence of the presence in Iraq of Al Qaeda members, including some that have been in Baghdad.
--We have credible reporting that Al Qaeda leaders sought contacts in Iraq who could help them acquire W.M.D. capabilities. The reporting also stated that Iraq has provided training to Al Qaeda members in the areas of poisons and gases and making conventional bombs.
--Iraq's increasing support to extremist Palestinians coupled with growing indications of relationship with Al Qaeda suggest that Baghdad's links to terrorists will increase, even absent U.S. military action.
-john