The don't make money exclusively through Chrome. Regardless of which browser you use they've got advertising services which work across them all (Gmail/Google Search/Docs etc.) DoubleClick and Ad Sense come to mind.
They make much more money in long term if they don't have to keep paying royalties other browsers. The money they pay to other browsers are recurring, but if they promote their own browser they have a much better long term thing, and can eventually save a lot more. Remember that they have to pay royalties for every ad click. That's a sizable chunk of for all ads, and $300 million a year isn't small change, even to Google. And that is only one browser, they have to do the same for all.
Google does need other browsers too, mainly for antitrust issues. They're already being investigated for monopoly abuse in EU and U.S. senators are suggesting that FDC looks into Google's monopoly abuse in U.S. too. EU just recently postponed Google's purchase of Motorola Mobility and may even deny it completely. They have been abusing advertisers on their network by telling that they are not allowed to run same ads on competitors networks. They have a monopoly on internet advertising, and that is the point many are missing. Their antitrust issues aren't about people using Google for searching, but abusing advertisers and other ad networks. After all, Google's customers aren't users - they are merely the product they sell.
Google cannot handle any more antitrust issues than they currently have.
So it's very easy to see why Google would be willing to fund Mozilla
That is true, but not for the reasons stated. Google is paying Mozilla around $100 million of commissions per year. By the very nature of the deal that relationship is poisoned. Note that Peter is an engineer, and it is very easy to say they want "better web" and stuff like that, but if Google could avoid paying $100 million a year, they would do so. It's better to put that money into their own product, and they really want to do that, but they can't because they would lose users. Google profits from the deal, but at the same time they would want to improve their own market so they don't need to pay anyone else in future.
Did the guy mention that he copyrighted his work? If he put it out there with nothing indicating that, there's an argument that he put it into the public domain, but if he copyrighted the project in a README file or in the core code files, he's covered. If someone is violating the GPL license and selling a modified version of his work, I'd recommend he contact the Electronic Frontier Foundation, who can help defend him, most likely free of charge.
Short answer: Selling GPLed software (even software you did not personally author) is okay.
Jesus... It's amazing what crap a first poster can say. No, you can not sell GPLed software you didn't write, though you may charge a distribution fee, and you must provide a way to access the source code you're distributing. If some a-hole is charging $50-ish bucks for your software, take him down.
You sir just won the award for Slashdot's 2011 Posts With Highest Percentage of Factually Incorrect Statements. Congratulations!
This is insightful. It's so funny to see Americans saying how Chinese can't innovate. They are people just like you, and many have great ideas. And there's 1,5 million people. You would be stupid to ignore that fact. There is also lots of Chinese companies that make original things, but you're too spammed and marketed by US companies to see that. Go live there and you see it actually.
If you want to criticize China, please point out when have you gone out to riot on streets? How did the police respond that? Or did you actually go out, or just stay at home? I thought so.
Such accusation isn't new on Slashdot. It's a bit better than accussing for working for Microsoft, I guess. I don't work for FDC, but I host my servers with them.
It's well known that China will do anything to silence people who promote freedom.
That's false. They don't have anything against freedom. If you try to start riots, then yes you're going to get problems. But this is based on what majority of Chinese want. They don't want riots causing deaths and problems, and support Chinese government to prevent those. It's democracy after all - you may not like it, but majority want that.
That was only last year. They had a minor market share to begin with, so gaining good publicity by "pulling out of china" was only good for marketing purposes. They weren't profitable there to begin with. Google has a good marketing team tho - instead of announcing that they failed to profit in Chinese market, they turned it upside down and told they're getting off for ethical reasons to make it look less failure.
Google is really bad in Russia and China. Most people use Yandex or Baidu because it gives much better results. Google simply fails to give good results there. Google has ignored that market, and it will eventually bite them in the ass.
Seriously, I'm tired of these stupid comments towards China. Especially when US government is much worse. Have you lived there or actually know it? Because it isn't like that. I have my own experience. Sure, do keep up with the "China == bad" bullshit, but you're only lying to yourself. Just like with communism == bad during cold war. It's bullshit without real experience.
They have a separate network for IRC networks now. I wasn't using them in 2006, but later in 2008. By far they've been great. I guess they worked out their problems with IRC servers by separating them on other network.
U.S. already does. 18 year limit for natural love making, but violence is all good! Then when someone does weird porn that minority like (and doesn't hurt anyone), like shitting in mouth, they jail those responsible for filming it. Land of hypocrites.
Btw, if you really want to sign up with HostGator, then see their blog. They offer 50% off with the official NOSOPA promo code, not 25% what this joker Shikaku is spamming with his own referral code.
Stop spamming your referral code. HostGator is awful. You're only promoting it because when people use that nosopa25percent code you get paid like $50.
I can't but recommend FDC servers. I've used them off and on since 2008. I've also tried many others but there's always been something wrong with them. Never had problems with FDC tho. They also give unlimited bandwidth so you don't need to worry about extra costs, and they have three datacenters. Two in US (Chicago and Denver) and one in EU (Czech). Servers are also quickly set up. They're an established company too. I've had a few porn sites hosted there, and anyone in the industry knows how demanding those can be on hardware and bandwidth. Never had any problems with FDC tho. Their VPS plans start at $9/month which is hard to beat. Even shitty providers have higher price.
I would avoid any unknown company. While there most likely are many good ones that are less known, it's a hit or miss. Sometimes they just close, either because it was unprofitable for them or just for no reason. There's many VPS providers who are just run by some guy, who leases the servers from DC's. So go with established company that has their own datacenters and years of experience. You save lots of headache.
The question is not who's phone support is best, but why would you need to call them in the first place. And this is strictly limited to/. geeky persons, I do understand why normal businesses rather just call them to set up stuff. But if you have any intelligence about domains, it takes like half a minute to set up your stuff. At least with good providers, like Namecheap or Gandi.net.
Anyone in the industry has known to avoid GoDaddy for domains. Their sole existence is based on commercials and advertisements, not good service. It's a perfect example that advertisements works too. This news isn't exactly surprising and will do nothing to GoDaddy's market share.
I'm not sure if I'm a good astronaut, but I'm hell of a good guy to design space shuttles. I've been playing Kerbal Space Program lately so I know this stuff. If someone is a good astronaut contact me!
What next? Is the legal system going to require people to change their names if someone else considers it offensive?
If it's unlawful, yes. You already cannot give or take any name you want. This is especially true for companies. Your company name cannot contain anything illegal or what promotes something illegal.
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The don't make money exclusively through Chrome. Regardless of which browser you use they've got advertising services which work across them all (Gmail/Google Search/Docs etc.) DoubleClick and Ad Sense come to mind.
They make much more money in long term if they don't have to keep paying royalties other browsers. The money they pay to other browsers are recurring, but if they promote their own browser they have a much better long term thing, and can eventually save a lot more. Remember that they have to pay royalties for every ad click. That's a sizable chunk of for all ads, and $300 million a year isn't small change, even to Google. And that is only one browser, they have to do the same for all.
Google does need other browsers too, mainly for antitrust issues. They're already being investigated for monopoly abuse in EU and U.S. senators are suggesting that FDC looks into Google's monopoly abuse in U.S. too. EU just recently postponed Google's purchase of Motorola Mobility and may even deny it completely. They have been abusing advertisers on their network by telling that they are not allowed to run same ads on competitors networks. They have a monopoly on internet advertising, and that is the point many are missing. Their antitrust issues aren't about people using Google for searching, but abusing advertisers and other ad networks. After all, Google's customers aren't users - they are merely the product they sell.
Google cannot handle any more antitrust issues than they currently have.
So it's very easy to see why Google would be willing to fund Mozilla
That is true, but not for the reasons stated. Google is paying Mozilla around $100 million of commissions per year. By the very nature of the deal that relationship is poisoned. Note that Peter is an engineer, and it is very easy to say they want "better web" and stuff like that, but if Google could avoid paying $100 million a year, they would do so. It's better to put that money into their own product, and they really want to do that, but they can't because they would lose users. Google profits from the deal, but at the same time they would want to improve their own market so they don't need to pay anyone else in future.
Did the guy mention that he copyrighted his work? If he put it out there with nothing indicating that, there's an argument that he put it into the public domain, but if he copyrighted the project in a README file or in the core code files, he's covered. If someone is violating the GPL license and selling a modified version of his work, I'd recommend he contact the Electronic Frontier Foundation, who can help defend him, most likely free of charge.
Jesus... It's amazing what crap a first poster can say. No, you can not sell GPLed software you didn't write, though you may charge a distribution fee, and you must provide a way to access the source code you're distributing. If some a-hole is charging $50-ish bucks for your software, take him down.
You sir just won the award for Slashdot's 2011 Posts With Highest Percentage of Factually Incorrect Statements. Congratulations!
*Billion, obviously. Stupid slashcode.
This is insightful. It's so funny to see Americans saying how Chinese can't innovate. They are people just like you, and many have great ideas. And there's 1,5 million people. You would be stupid to ignore that fact. There is also lots of Chinese companies that make original things, but you're too spammed and marketed by US companies to see that. Go live there and you see it actually.
If you want to criticize China, please point out when have you gone out to riot on streets? How did the police respond that? Or did you actually go out, or just stay at home? I thought so.
Such accusation isn't new on Slashdot. It's a bit better than accussing for working for Microsoft, I guess. I don't work for FDC, but I host my servers with them.
It's well known that China will do anything to silence people who promote freedom.
That's false. They don't have anything against freedom. If you try to start riots, then yes you're going to get problems. But this is based on what majority of Chinese want. They don't want riots causing deaths and problems, and support Chinese government to prevent those. It's democracy after all - you may not like it, but majority want that.
That was only last year. They had a minor market share to begin with, so gaining good publicity by "pulling out of china" was only good for marketing purposes. They weren't profitable there to begin with. Google has a good marketing team tho - instead of announcing that they failed to profit in Chinese market, they turned it upside down and told they're getting off for ethical reasons to make it look less failure.
Google is really bad in Russia and China. Most people use Yandex or Baidu because it gives much better results. Google simply fails to give good results there. Google has ignored that market, and it will eventually bite them in the ass.
Seriously, I'm tired of these stupid comments towards China. Especially when US government is much worse. Have you lived there or actually know it? Because it isn't like that. I have my own experience. Sure, do keep up with the "China == bad" bullshit, but you're only lying to yourself. Just like with communism == bad during cold war. It's bullshit without real experience.
They have a separate network for IRC networks now. I wasn't using them in 2006, but later in 2008. By far they've been great. I guess they worked out their problems with IRC servers by separating them on other network.
U.S. already does. 18 year limit for natural love making, but violence is all good! Then when someone does weird porn that minority like (and doesn't hurt anyone), like shitting in mouth, they jail those responsible for filming it. Land of hypocrites.
Btw, if you really want to sign up with HostGator, then see their blog. They offer 50% off with the official NOSOPA promo code, not 25% what this joker Shikaku is spamming with his own referral code.
Stop spamming your referral code. HostGator is awful. You're only promoting it because when people use that nosopa25percent code you get paid like $50.
I can't but recommend FDC servers. I've used them off and on since 2008. I've also tried many others but there's always been something wrong with them. Never had problems with FDC tho. They also give unlimited bandwidth so you don't need to worry about extra costs, and they have three datacenters. Two in US (Chicago and Denver) and one in EU (Czech). Servers are also quickly set up. They're an established company too. I've had a few porn sites hosted there, and anyone in the industry knows how demanding those can be on hardware and bandwidth. Never had any problems with FDC tho. Their VPS plans start at $9/month which is hard to beat. Even shitty providers have higher price.
I would avoid any unknown company. While there most likely are many good ones that are less known, it's a hit or miss. Sometimes they just close, either because it was unprofitable for them or just for no reason. There's many VPS providers who are just run by some guy, who leases the servers from DC's. So go with established company that has their own datacenters and years of experience. You save lots of headache.
The question is not who's phone support is best, but why would you need to call them in the first place. And this is strictly limited to /. geeky persons, I do understand why normal businesses rather just call them to set up stuff. But if you have any intelligence about domains, it takes like half a minute to set up your stuff. At least with good providers, like Namecheap or Gandi.net.
Anyone in the industry has known to avoid GoDaddy for domains. Their sole existence is based on commercials and advertisements, not good service. It's a perfect example that advertisements works too. This news isn't exactly surprising and will do nothing to GoDaddy's market share.
it'd still wouldn't be enough to have any statistically significant chance of being accepted.
Now that's the spirit!
I'm not sure if I'm a good astronaut, but I'm hell of a good guy to design space shuttles. I've been playing Kerbal Space Program lately so I know this stuff. If someone is a good astronaut contact me!
I kinda find it funny that it is labeled as "surprisingly". US people still cant get that there are other cultures and languages in the world.
No they don't. Police only use guns now because bad guys also use guns. Back in time it was quite uncommon for a police officer to carry a gun.
Yes, technology itself isn't bad. Like they say "Guns don't kill people, people kill people".
What next? Is the legal system going to require people to change their names if someone else considers it offensive?
If it's unlawful, yes. You already cannot give or take any name you want. This is especially true for companies. Your company name cannot contain anything illegal or what promotes something illegal.