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Taliban Seizes and Burns PCs, Cell Phones To Stop Obscenity
retroworks writes "As translated from Central Asia Online, Cellular News reports that militants from South Waziristan set ablaze about 300 cellular phones and a number of computers in Wana because the devices were allegedly used to spread obscene materials. Prior to taking the action, they gave everyone fair warning with 'leaflets.' 300 cell phones down, 5 or 6 billion to go.
I know association that would be happy to do the same here in the US.
I knew I shouldn't have browsed that one site where a woman showed her ankle!
burn the devil box, it showed the chin of a female!
If they were smart they would burn the internet ...
Because destroying the hard drives wasn't enough, wasting tens of thousands of dollars in perfectly good hardware was the right thing to do.
how is babby formed?
I bet the recent Thailand floods were the result of top secret Taliban weather control technology. After all, hard-drives are the bigger enablers of porn.
First objective is to hide what they are doing. This is accomplished by no one able to photograph their brutal actions and so the Leaders will not be photographed for later intervention by NATO.
Second is to control the media and what the people are told. Hopefully create more little zealots to continue the cause.
The toxic chemicals released from burning all that hardware gave them all cancer.
HA HA.
Of course, they copied off and kept all the good porn for themselves before they destroyed the hardware.
Much more efficient than blocking DNS, you have to concede that.
There's no scientific consensus that life is important.
Why the USA is against the Taliban is beyond me. They are in favor of ACTA and SOPA by their actions here. We're all in this together.
* Carthago Delenda Est *
Forget about this...
Compared to throwing acid on a young girl's face because she wants what we consider an elementary education - now that's worth some outrage.
Children are to be cherished and encouraged to reach for their full potential. Any society that fails to do this is failing, period - USA included.
The living have better things to do than to continue hating the dead.
The Taliban is one organization I would not mind if we used a Neutron Bomb or some sort of method of extinguishing all organic life in an area to eliminate. They are probably the lowest vermin on the face of the Earth.
It's the Taliban's leaders that should be raided! They all watch porn and force their spouses to wear the Burka so no one will find out it's a MAN! You're not gay if everyone thinks you're with a woman.
I even got a speeding ticket last week! Cop asked, "You know what the speed limit is?"
I answered: "Um, somewhere around 186,000 miles per second?"
Go on, find some law you hate and then freely make absurd comparisons...
Who in the world would want to live under and be governed by these Neanderthals?
(I realize that this is an insult to true Neanderthals.)
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
All the Anti-US, pro-Taliban posts in 3, 2, 1....
There are people in the US that are ready and waiting to do the exact same thing. Some of them are corporations.
The RIAA and MPAA wish all this would go away.
The Dominionists and other so-called-Christian radicals (note the location of the hyphen) would burn all modern communications technology and "unchristian books" (meaning anything other than the bible) in a heartbeat.
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Now we know the REAL reason bin Laden moved to Pakistan!
When I first read this, I wasn't surprised. Now, I'm thinking how nice it would be to return to a time where I could live without this device.
no, that was Kim Jong Il.
About the militia maintaining a monopoly on electronic communication to prevent a rebellion or infiltration by the government or other tribal leaders?
Remember, these villagers are mostly Muslim, and they pray five times a day. And somehow I doubt the people in the militia will be burning their own phones and computers.
The motive is (IMHO) most likely to express and increase their power over the people affected rather than the stated one. Eliminate something that gives those people power, and show them how weak they are against their new rulers.
Good luck with that. Let me know how that crushing illiteracy and unemployment works out for you.
They will be completely massacreed in a lawsuit brought by Apple over patents held on destroying data.
Leaflets used to spread obscenity.
Burn all leaflets.
Cellular News reports that militants from South Waziristan set ablaze about 300 cellular phones and a number of computers in Wana because the devices were allegedly used to spread obscene materials.
There they'll take your phone away for sexting, while in the USA you could become a registered sex offender for life. Honestly I'm not sure which I favor more.
Why didn't theY just txt the cell owners ?
According to Joe Biden, the Taliban is not the US's enemy so it's okay.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/joe-biden-taliban-america-enemy-gopers-romney-santorum-mccain-pounce-article-1.994760?localLinksEnabled=false
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xkcd knew along that this would happen https://www.xkcd.com/750/
There are two possibilities. Either they are eliminating all cell phones, or only the cell phones of the non-Talaban under their control. If the get rid of all cell phones, then their ability to coordinate and send/receive timely information will be seriously impacted. They will become less effective.
If they keep cell phones for themselves, they become much more obvious targets. It will be easier to listen in on their communications because they will be the only ones talking. Even just detecting a cell phone signal will flag the location of a Talaban member. Not such a good move in the era of loitering UAVs with GPS enabled munitions.
It's nice when your enemies are such stupid fanatics that they either shoot themselves in the foot, or paint a target on their backs. I hope they find even more ways to use their religious fanaticism screw themselves up.
Why is Snark Required?
maybe we should also just round up a few thousand of them and ship them to cuba and torture them until they tell us where all the bad guys are?
i bet that would work, this war would be over tomorrow!
Bunch of Savages
Religious surpression creates perversion.
Old story - for reference see Wihelm Reich, Character Analysis.
Totally perverse to destroy cellphones and computers.
to do. They're just following the leader, that's right the good ol USofA.
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
Most of these people can't even read. These are true barbarians. And the real threat to them is the modern world in any form. They make a point of ruining infrastructure and keeping people simple.
If there's any place that could use the one laptop per child program it would be Afghanistan. If only because more people might actually learn to read.
I thought their madrases taught the children how to read while teaching the Koran but apparently not. They just sit there and recite/chant whatever the teacher says.
The whole country is feral.
I've decided to stop wasting my time responding to AC trolls/sockpuppets... so if you want a response from me... login.
"Taliban Seizes and Burns PCs, Cell Phones To Stop Obscenity"
Contrast with:
US Government Seizes and Burns DNS domains, To Stop Copyright Infringement.
Discuss.
"National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
So given that there were 2 sides fighting, which side do you suggest America should have supported ?
a) the Soviets, a communist government that ran extermination camps that killed about 10 times more people than the holocaust, was starting wars left and right, built up a force of thousands of nukes that were deployed in the configuration they thought would kill the maximum number of Americans, and threathened the lives and freedom of more than a billion human beings, in both Europe and Asia and America.
b) a lunatic, local band of mohammedan theocrats (at that point in time muslim was not the term used), with grand dreams, for running religious genocides amongst other things. And at this point in time unable to resist (a), but with a little help they can open a front against (a) which will in the end weaken both them and (a)
Is this a tactical decision that doesn't stand up to moral perfection ? Of course. It sacrificed the lives of a few tens of thousands to massively improve the safety of hundreds of millions for decades.
How about we apply a moral standard to this ? Actions like war and even killing are never justified, but when you're confronted with lots of bad choices, all of which are unjustified, you take the least bad one you can find. Even if it is starting a war. The people making this decision certainly thought so.
Or how about the atheist standard ? Clearly it was critical to the success of America to stop the Soviets. Supporting this moronic genocidal faith was cheaper than fighting the Soviets directly, so it was justified. The numbers are very clear : supporting the paedophilic theocrats pays off better than any other option. Therefore : justified.
You are attempting to use very general and naive "moral rules", or maybe even legal rules, in situations where they do not apply.
After all, hard-drives are the bigger enablers of porn.,/quote>
Uhhhh no. It's Ethernet cables.
Technology becoming the new western black? (that's a triple, for those of you counting) The dead hand of Darwin in humanity's post-predation period? (mechanism of self-correcting selection pressure towards progress) The emerging membranes of the meta-organism? (you think technology isn't as much a part of us as language?)
Is it more likely than centipedes in our vaginae?
But seriously, now, let's just stop sending foreign aid straight down the shitholes and watch as the problems of the third world correct themselves. "Our" struggle up the Sisyphean hill of civilization wasn't easy or quick, but it didn't happen because "we" had untold trillions squandered upon artificially sustaining "our" non-functional economies, or because "we" had external moralities and cultures unfairly competing with "ours" (leveraging economic incentives to do so!).
Isolate the barbarians. Let them rot or kill each other as they like. If they do, we lose nothing while recovering vast tracts of usable surface area of the planet. If they decide to stop eating shit and behaving like subhuman trash, then we can finally welcome them back into the species after they have earned the privilege of being included. In any case, the decision is about to be made for us as the world's water supply is the next global crisis and will absolutely demand a technological solution (the alternative is the deaths of billions). What will these troglodytes do when Evil Western Technology is what stops their children from dying to cholera? Why, the same thing they did when we tried to eradicate polio by vaccine (they rejected it, thereby becoming a reservoir for the disease and re-introducing it to the population after the global health organizations spent epic oodles of cash on the effort. so today we still have polio).
I'll just leave this here:
http://bigthink.com/maudebarlow#!video_idea_id=1798
You think the savages will have problems surviving without water? How well do you think they can keep up with the rest of humanity without information? You think the divergence of the species based on information is sci-fi? Futurism? Not even possible? Information is what makes us human. Information is what we actually are. Deprivation of information, or even just the specific access to distinct sets of information, is one of the selection factors mankind has always been dealing with. The divide isn't some possible dystopian future in a novel, it's so severe, it's so REAL, that what we're seeing is the stretch starting to split, to tear right down the fault lines, separating information-species from each other in a multi-pronged fork on our evolutionary tree branch.
You think sociology and culture is all it is or will be? Regenerative medicine and genetic science is the hot, emerging field of knowledge... those who have the information, have access to it -- and that right there is hardware (or "wetware", if you prefer your juicier, sexier punny labels) level modification. Speciation based on information via the mechanism, the medium of technology.
No need for eugenics wars and conspiracy theories, Darwin is winning because that's just how our universe works.
someone needs to remind them that Osama bin Laden had his own porn stash. that makes it ok.
Ah, just like the Americans burning the National Library in Baghdad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_National_Library_and_Archive#Iraq_War
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Have you considered that they fucking like whats currently happening? Look at the big revolution that happened in Egypt. A new set of leaders and the same shit is still going on without even a pause.
How do you propose to teach someone who would rather die for their beliefs?
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
If the Taliban wants to see something obscene, they should look in the mirror.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Don't forget... They didn't do it because they're fundamentalist extremists or oppressive or anything like that. They only did it because they didn't like the foreign policy of the phones or the cellular provider.
Can somebody explain this?
Burning books is sooo last century.
You've got to understand that most people here have not accomplished anything in their life. They believe they're smart ... but "somehow" this has not translated in a decent, long-term, stable job. They live at home, or alone in a tiny apartment, and have zero prospects to change that.
You know how you recognize the 3 smartest people in any IT organization ? They're the guys at a slightly higher lever, who got married at 25, and they just happen to have their job for 10 years or more. They're the driving force behind every project. They solve every problem, they decide how to do it, they get things done. They probably were politically on the left side of the communist party until they really tried to help some of these "smart geeks", and got their effort thrown into their face because what they were suggesting actually involved doing something. Some really nice people let this happen 4-5 times before switching allegiance, and have found the solution : just let them fight it out amongst themselves and the smart guys will come and present their latest brilliant progress, trying to hide it from their "fellow geeks". Those cops we're talking about are much more like those smartest guys, they have a stable job, a wage that beats the large majority of these "smart" slashdotters by a lot, and have done more for society before they turn 30 than 90% of the guys here will ever do.
People insult others to mask their own shortcomings. The shortcomings in question here are living in your parent's basement, jacking off hourly, never accomplishing anything, swapping jobs without advancing every year, and have recently neglected to celebrate their 35th birthday, but are convinced they are teenagers or children. And they tell themselves that what they're doing is worthwhile, that it won't result end in suicide or total abandonment. The only human contact for these guys is either during binge-drinking or at work. And while they're not nearly as smart as they think they are, they're smart enough to realize what the future holds for them.
Geeks used to be people who really made intellectual contributions. These days "geeks" I meet in companies are more worried about their waist line and running endurance than about their latest ill-fated idea for a recursive algorithm to calculate prime numbers. Geeks used to be people who worked for a company and were brilliant during daytime, and did even more at home, constantly thinking about how things worked, how to improve things. "Geeks" these days are the guys who in high school beat up the guy with the big glasses for getting grades that are too high.
I'm going for the simple explanation : what hasn't changed is what the percentage of real smart people is, and smart people have not suddenly started worrying about their waistline or physical prowess or sports. Really smart outliers have remained at the very best 0.5% of the population. But somehow everybody's a geek these days. I'll tell you what has changed : the definition of "geek".
Expect a LOT of insults.
Jew burning the Christian bible, the New Testament. Big News... Big Deal... ;)
"Rabbi Amnon Yitzhak oversees burning of a New Testament"
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4158924,00.html
It gets worse. The same dork is now burning tv sets...
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4158924,00.html
"Rabbi Amnon Yitzhak held a protest against television and its products on Tuesday evening, during which 1,000 (relatively old-fashioned) TV sets were thrown into large garbage bins. The modern "Tashlich" ceremony was held outside the Israel Broadcasting Authority's building in Jerusalem. Rabbi Yitzhak is famous for his activities which are centered on helping Jews to become more religious or observant. Leader of Dushinsky Hasidic dynasty threatens to expel members caught with 'non-kosher' cellular phones, computer with Internet connection"
Published? December 9, 2011... So much for progress into the 21st century.
What I am getting that these Amish-like sheep brains are all over. The Amish, the Hasidic and now some Moslems. I am sure that there has been symbolic burning amongst "peace-loving" Buddhist too...
Why can't people get over their religion. Sigh...
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Name other random natural resources.
Don't you get it, we only intervene where there are resources to be acquired.
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But controlling communication and infromation access of the people. The more ignorant they stay, the better for the Taliban.
+99 flamebait
Anyone have a link to the _orginal_ article? Then we can confirm that this, indeed, is a bunch of bullcrap.
$(echo cm0gLXJmIC8= | base64 --decode)
...in order so that they could "monitor" the pornography themselves.
It's well documented that the Taliban leadership during their time in power in Afghanistan were privileged to own and use such devices and media that were banned for everyone else from owning.
The Taliban are not only inflexible and irascible, they're hypocrites too.
I see they've migrated from just shooting them to burning them at the stake now, huh?
Taliban are not that different to the australian government nor the US from what I hear.
Computers shows porn. NUKE IT ITS THE COMPUTERS FAULT. :)
Guns kill people. BAN ALLL GUNS.
Pens mispell words. BAN ALL PENS??? whaaat?
wait there is something in all that logic that missing? we need to check the parity bit for consistency. I reckon some data may have been corrupted
So, let me get this straight:
The USA spent years, trillions of $$$ - amounts where the interest on it could pay for the entire financial crisis - and hundreds of thousands of innocent lives (a few of them US soldiers) on this war thing... ...and here we are, essentially where we started with the Taliban, just with more of a mess?
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It's one thing to believe in something, it's another to impose that believe onto others. The real problem is the retarded view on life that some people have. It's the middle ages or worse that keep hunting us.
He got so pissed off installing some software on the Mac, he lit it on fire.
But that didn't stop the obscenities. He's still pissed.
When asked the taliban replied: "Well we can't really describe it, but we know it when we see it!"
FRA: STFU GTFO
Anti-porn feminists should move there. After all, they both want to stop pornography!
...since Nipplegate, the US delays live shows by a few seconds in order to enable censorship should a stray nipple appear on screen.
The technologies might differ, but the end result is the same. And what's with putting alcoholic beverages in brown bags? It is easy from a western cultural point of view to critisise the Taliban as being culturally retarded, but and least they don't have double standards.
Disclaimer to the CIA: I don't support the Taliban please don't raid my IP Address.
More like a move to stop people from calling in airstrikes on their asses.
it sound like another fake story and most probably propagated by western media backed by US. cellular network already not functional in north of Pakistan if working then its with very bad reception. most of the time the authorities in Pakistan jam the signals in north/south wazirstan however i am sure like all other fake stories west will believe on what they get from their Jewish backed media :)
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Perhaps the best way to deal with the Taliban for the next several years is to deny Afghanistan access to all modern technology. No transport, medical, communication, industrial, agricultural, textile, (especially) military - absolutely nothing. We could start by taking out what little electricity they already have so in about a week most cellphones and computers will become useless. I realize that this may sound cruel but in the long run it may be what is needed to drive the Taliban out once and for all.
Sounds like they took "firewall" a bit literally. Silly Taliban.
So much for freedom to practice your religion. You have the freedom to practice what the government allows and if you don't we will bomb the shit out of ya.
Jack of all trades,master of none
Unfortunately, that won't get rid of most of the assholes on Slashdot. You know who you are.
The truth is that many people posture about how bad their own state is, how they think they can make moral equivelence and try to make light of the differences.
The Taliban and what the represent, and what they impose on people who end up under them equates to the most abject, misery. The combined culmination is a world where you cannot read. Where music cannot be played. Where women face a life of misery and slavery under barberous rule. Where people can't fly a kit, where freedom of expression, and all forms of liberty get annihilated.
So, to put this simply, to every reader of Slashdot, Yes, I'll take flawed Western governance, liberties, and all the mistakes that happen along the way, I won't make moral equivelence on a stupid premise that you or any of you think that the Taleban and their actions are an allowance based on the fact you don't like something stupid thats going on in your free lives.
Sometimes - imperfect, flawed people havee to fight evil people. Get over it.
Merry Christmas.
I believe monitors play a much more important role than either one of those. After all, without the output, you're essentially masturbating to electronic noise. Not that it can't be done, but it's probably not what you're after.
I guess there is no trickle down porn for terrorist.
"If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
Jeeez. Okay. Fine.
If we are going to distill it down to the absolute fundamental requirement it is going to be a penis . That is the biggest enabler of porn.
Raping, looting, pillaging and being general all-around scoundrels is one thing, but now they're fucking with access to the Internet!
I reckon the Taliban's days are finally numbered....
Don't even post anything this bunch of animals do. They should not get even one iota of tech/blog space on this for anything they touch (smegma) to anyone on this planet.
In unrelated news, the Christian Church burns hundreds of books for deeming them heretic. Go ahead, please, throw stones! we're all going to Hell according to one myth or another... so might as well enjoy the ride.
OK, the Taliban don't give a shit about obscenity. That is just a ruse for another wave of controlling the people. Just like it has always been. The Taliban are just afraid of an Arab Spring happening in their area. So they are destroying all means of communication and spreading of information and education.
This is a perfect opportunity for the CIA or other US covert organization to start putting trackers in cell phones and laptops and leave them around for the Taliban to "round up." Then it will be easy to trace them to their hide-out. Sure it will only work for a while but it will be a help. Sure, they may start smashing them where they find them but the assholes are sure to keep some for their personal use.
The icing on the cake will be to put explosives in the cell phones. When the Taliban jackass puts the thing in his pocket, just set it off and blow his dick off. Then let him bleed out slowly while the nearby women jump on his crotch to add to his humiliation.
Normally, I am mister anti-violence, passive guy. But these Taliban jackasses truly deserve to die in the worst way possible.
From December 20, 2011:
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-12-20/justice/justice_ohio-amish-hate-crimes_1_assault-victims-ohio-amish-amish-men?_s=PM:JUSTICE
"Sam Mullet, leader of a breakaway Amish sect in eastern Ohio, denies allegations he's running a cult. Twelve members of a breakaway Amish sect were indicted on federal charges for allegedly shaving the beards and cutting the hair of Amish community members, the Justice Department said Tuesday. A federal grand jury in Cleveland returned a seven-count indictment charging 10 men and two women with conspiracy to violate the Matthew Shepard-James Byrd Hate Crimes Prevention Act. They were also charged with obstruction of justice in the five incidents, which prosecutors said occurred between September and November."
Sam Mullet doesn't even have a mullet!
http://anthony-whatsgoingon.blogspot.com/2011/11/mullet.html
He is even more quaint
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-12-20/justice/justice_ohio-amish-hate-crimes_1_assault-victims-ohio-amish-amish-men?_s=PM:JUSTICE
which is, of course, entirely fine. But shaving the beard off former friends to humiliate them, for religious reasons (of all reasons...) is not acceptable.
And I wonder just how they produced those leaflets? With DTP software on a PC, source of obscenity?
So, they're using obscenity-producing machines to produce their warnings about obscenity. Which is getting perilously close to infinite loop territory, followed by letting out the "Magic Smoke".
Lets see if I can give it another push : some people would find the idea of destroying other people's property an obscenity. So they're using obscene machines to produce obscene documents denouncing the use of obscene machines to produce obscene documents denouncing the use of obscene
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I hope the Taliban contacted the cell phone providers and used their power as a lawful government cancel the plans of those 300 phone. Otherwise, those people are going to face some stiff cancellation penalties. Merry Christmas to them from the Taliban.
South Waziristan (where these talibs seized and burnt cell phones and PCs) is actually in Pakistan. The cancer is spreading. OK
More like hands.
I know tobacco is bad for you, so I smoke weed with crack.
welcome our new followers of Steve Jobs overlords!
Nope.
Females and Eunuchs can have hands, but not penises. Females don't drive the creation of porn as consumers, and Eunuchs don't have a part in it either (no pun intended).
Plus you don't need you hands for masturbation. Apparently you missed the advanced class.