Exactly my point - vinyl was phased out because it suited the interests of the record and music publishing industries (and the distributors, hifi manufacturers etc etc.) For the first time, the ability to make our own pristine (well, OK, slightly lossy) digital copies raises the spectre, for the industry, of a market that might *not have to buy five copies of Dark Side of the Moon over a lifetime to make up for copies lost, stolen, destroyed or damaged. Course you wouldn't expect that to go down well with an industry where the vast majority of the grotesque profits they make come from back catalogue - bought for a pittance from young struggling artists, then just happen to sell for thirty years non-stop.
I used to work at a music publisher. Take my word for it - the execs (and A&R people) at those places are pure evil. And that's not a word I like to use. --
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
> the industry will have to offer something >BETTER or CHEAPER. Until that happens, we all >keep our protection-free CD and MP3 players, >and we buy only music that is compatible with >them. The industry will continue to sell >unencrypted CDs because the customers don't >have the hardware to play anything else.
Some of us remember the way that vinyl records were ruthlessly swept out of shops; this happened *ahead* of consumer acceptance of CDs. I certainly remember when it started getting harder and harder to find decent vinyl copies of stuff I wanted, and this was the major factor in me reluctantly moving to CD. Remember there was a >70% price hike at the same time, supposedly to because th ultra-clean lasts-forever sound quality of CD was worth more to the consumer than crackly old records...
Yes, I know, I could still get hold of fancy Technics 1200 DJ turntables if I really *want* to play my old records... can't afford that three hundred quid at present, though.
Personally I'm just waiting for the point when I can afford to digitise my 400-ish CDs, store backups and the original masters off-site and just use a RAID equipped fileserver to pipe music around my house... I can dream, goddammit! --
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
The Register have a good
story on this, tracking down the firms that have joined and spotting the common link between them. Hint: IBM were already a member; the enw joiner is IBM Microelectronics, ie., chip fabbers...
--
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
>How much of PSInet's bandwidth is used by C&W's
>traffic VERSUS how much of C&W's bandwidth is >used by PSInet's traffic.
This is irrelevant. Even in the extreme case (one party a colo, the other a dialup provider), both provider's bandwidth has already been paid for by their respective customers. Sorry, I can't remember who actually pointed this out on nanog, it was over the w/e IIRC...
C&W has been dropping a lot of peers recently, there's been a busy discussion of this over the last week (and whether or not it's a short-term beancounter's move, or will actually help C&W in some obscure way.)
nanog is a fascinating place to lurk, (indeed if you find this topic interesting, read the entire, LONG, thread in the archives.) I've learned an awful lot about how the *real* networks (backbones down to leaf nodes) actually operate in from reading it. It's also fascinating to see extremely intelligent engineers, who between them built many well -known networks, wrote legendary software, and so on, fighting like schoolchildren in religious wars (securing open relays, ORBS vs. MAPS, NSP filtering on the backbone, etc etc).
The only problem is that every time it's mentioned on Slashdot, the signal::noise ratio seems to take another lurch downwards. If you haven't got a nanog-post account, you almost certainly don't need one. --
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
I'm in central London. We've got access to cable (in theory) and xDSL. I haven't bothered looking into former as I'd have to move to the cable co's own ISP. The latter is available from my existing ISP (Demon Internet) but it's fifty quid a month plus large installation charge - and that's the cheapest retail package, with a 20:1 contention ratio... (translation - fifty quid is about $75.)
I looked into this for while as I'm paying nearly that much in POTS charges, but now I've decided to run my own web proxy, upgrade to 56K (yep, I'm still on 33.6)' hopefully that'll reduce charges whilst speeding up access a bit. I'll look back at DSL when the contention ratio is better and the service is cheaper. Oh, and I've got the OpenBSD firewall/gateway working properly... at present it keeps locking the password file apparently at random... --
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
>Even animals are wise enough to set territories for themselves.
Yeah, they do so fundamentally through pysical violence. How is that different from capitalism? Of course we're all slaves, but it's got nothing to do with politics - it's thermodynamics. At least nowadays we're starting to realise that religions, political dogma, ideologies etc are merely tired attempts to distract us from the nature of reality.
Hope I don't sound to cynical... look, the truth might set you free, right? Well the truth is that freedom is an illusion resulting from our unusually highly-developed ability to communicate through speech and recorded culture. But we're at the mercy of unconscious forces - our genetic inheritance, plus the nature of causal reality, plus all the stuff we've experienced in our lives which "inform"(ha!) our points of view and opinions, so subtly that we get angry and defensive when this idea (that they are *our* unique ideas and insights) is refuted. Slashdot is a good example of a forum where everyone's competing to say "/I/ have an original / unique / insightful opinion or piece of knowledge". Why do we compete in this? So we can get status amongst our peers, so that we will be successful, get laid and reproduce ourselves more than our competitors.
IOn summary then, IMHO capitalism is the least of all evils - it does keep much of the world in physical poverty and exploit them for the benefit of a very few, but graudually (slowly, over decades/centuries) the living standards of the rest rise... so we get padded cells and carbon fibre bars on the prison windows, and new DVD players and OSen to play with to keep our minds off it. Huge corporations are a force for evil AND good, they need to be controlled by legislation; in this
, very corporate-friendly, environment, it's proper and best that those laws are Liberal (I speak as a proud Liberal, in the UK sense at least) and attempt to prevent the worst corporatae excesses (buying out the copyright laws, for instance...)
Sorry this is rather rambling even by my standards, but it's Monday morning still and the **** who broke my code by committing conflicts on Friday pm still hasn't backed them out yet, causing this unfortunate tetchiness.
Nurse, more coffee and nicotine... --
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California.
All rights reserved.
Great, so NT is open source! Can I start burning it onto CD and selling them, then? Steve Ballmer says I can... --
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
Actually, the world's oldest struct is still present the SCO^W Caldera UnixWare kernel. 28 years' uptime! takes a lickin', keeps on (clock) tickin'...
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"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
> in 600-1000 years nuclear waste decays to the same
>radiation level as uranium ore.
Er, I don't know where you got your information from, but you are profoundly mistaken.
Different radioactive elements, and different isotopes of those elements, decay at differing rates; they turn into different decay products along the way, too (some of which are actually *more* dangerous than teh stuff they started out as). Most decay through a whole series of elements with different half-lives. This is sort-of related to the way carbon (C-14) dating works.
The number usually quoted in this context, and generally misunderstood, is 'half life'. This is the period of time taken for 50% a given mass of substance X to decay into something else. (remember the decay product can still be dangerous, and sometimes more so.) See also radon gas, which occurs naturally in granite (as found all over the southwest of the UK, in Scotland, and sundry other locations... I believe there is even some in the US!) which causes a statistically significant number of cases of lung cancer.
Of course one can argue "what's the big deal about a few unfortunate deaths from cancer, compared to the greater good of mankind?" - try making that argument to the mother of an 18 year old who just suffered a protracted and painful death from the disease...
Finally, even if it *was* "no more radioactive than uranium ore", it would still be highly dangerous. You might notice that houses tend not to be built over uranium mines. Of course, you're not making the environmentalist nut's error of thinking "it's "natural"! It MUST be safe, if not actually GOOD for us!" Speaking as an environmentalist nut, that attitude's one of several things that really piss me off about my fellow tree-huggers;)
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Yep, that looks like the exact one. Cheers for the link,/me has a happy Friday evening ahead re-reading that;) --
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Thanks to those nutty museli-munching sandal wearing communist tree-huggers, the general public and *even world governments* (well, ones that aren't lead by an animated glove puppet, at any rate) are already
well aware of the
environmental damage caused by
burning fossil fuels... --
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
I think this was in
Scientific American a few years back, although the piece was concerned more with waste from power generation. Some of that waste (a relatively small amount, perhaps a mere few thousand tons in the US) is radioactive enough to still be dangerous in 100,000 years. Pretty sobering thought when you consider that our present civilisation is only a few hundred years old, earliest recorded history is about 4,500 years ago, and we've had a good dozen ice ages in the last 100K years.
Wherever the stuff is stored, therefore, needs to be signed in such a way as to:
Frighten people away, rather than attracting them with the idea of buried treasure, archeological relics or whatever;
communicate this in a way that is culture-neutral. In other words, the third civilisation after us, in say 50,000 years' time (after the catastrophic collapse of ours (due to massive climate change and population growth the planet can no longer support) and the next (caused by brain damage resulting from the accidental translation of a fossilised Dummy's Guide to Windows) must be able to comprehend the message of whatever markers we erect despite having very different language, religious traditions, taboos, social structures, etc etc.;
Do so reliably for geological periods of time.
Consider further that the oldest known human structures are about 5000 years old (in central America, IIRC.)
I'm sure this story will be full of posts from the pro-nuclear lobby; I'm somewhat sympathetic to that PoV, with the exception of the hand-waving that goes on with regard to waste disposal (including defunct power stations themselves.) I grew up within 20 miles of the largest concentration of nuclear power in Western Europe (Oldbury, Berkeley, Hinkley Point) - the former stations were built in the mid 60s, had a design life of 21 years, were kept up and running for 30, and are now testbeds for decommmissioning. It's going to take a century *just to get the buildings into a safe state for long term storage* - a huge block of concrete containing the reactor core, sitting right on the edge of an enormous river with the highest tidal range in Europe. Hmmmmm. Was it worth it for 30 years of slightly-more-expensive than coal electricity? Well, hindsight is a wonderful thing... I suggest we learn from it.
Incidentally the UK Govt. just approved
the first UK complex of off-shore windfarms.
Another interesting experiment - might work, might be a white elephant, no way of telling without trying... but at least we know that cleaning them up afterwards will be nbd.
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"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
Sure, apt (sounds) much better than RPM (and InstallShield;)... but that wasn't really my point.
The problem is, I tend to forget to remove software; or rather, I never quite get around to deciding that I'm done evalling them. "Ooh, can't delete that just yet, I didn't ever get to grips with $feature..."
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Hmmm,... the bugzilla links on the definition document to "
total bugs nominated for 1.0" shows list of 397 bugs. A rough glance through the
most recent status update seems to show something like 170 bugs resolved per week (and that's not including groups that didn't submit a status update.) OK, most of those will be targetted at 0.91, and there are still 318 listed for 0.9 (er, which was out a month ago, no?) but - it seems to imply that 397 / 170 == less than three weeks. What's expected to change - presumably more bugs will be found, or re-targetted at 1.0? Or is it that QA progress is expected to slow down? Or that the bugs that remain are real stinkers?;) WHat have I missed? --
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
Being stuck on a slow (33.6) dialup connection at home, I tend to compile lists of interesting URLs in emacs, then go online, grab a dozen or so in one go, then drop the line and read them at my leisure offline. This often takes more than one session, so when I come home the following evening and want to check Slashdot|UserFriendly|space.com whatever, I can't restart the browser without losing a few pages I've already DL'd. The net result is that I often end up with browser sessions lasting many days, sometimes more than a week, during which I've opened and closed tens of windows. A stable build (i.e., a milestone release or a just-before-milestone nightly) copes with that without any problems. (Occasionally I come across a page concealing a lurking browser-buster, but these are getting rarer and rarer these days.) --
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
...posted with a recent daily build of mozilla, yes? There's a funky regression whereby the urlbar briefly displays the URL of whatever *file* is being downloaded - so it usually ends up holding the URL for the last ad or screen furniture graphic to be pulled from the server.
WHilst I'm here - the current dailies are getting really, really slick (on Windows, at least) as the optimisation effort really gets going. I've been using moz more or less continuously since the first usable release of gecko; for much of that time I did it almost entirely as a gesture of support for Free software, and as a kiss-off to Microsoft. Now, I find myself cursing IE's little 'features' when I'm forced to use the damn thing. To all those people who post to every mozilla story saying "sadly I have to admit that IE is by far the best browser" -- don't you find it an enormous pain having to clear all the cookie and active scripting warning dialogs? What's that - you use IE at the default security settings? Hey, I must remember to post some links to one of my extra special sites...:) --
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
Hear, hear. But when a Microsoft-based site is cracked, even though the patches have been available and publicised on the MS security site, via their email Security Alert service, as well as via Bugtraq and NTBugtraq, isn't that due to bad sysadmin as well? You could certainly make the case that a much higher percentage of Microsoft admins are *likely* to be clueless / lazy about applying patches diligently... although how Linux admins of reasonably functional workstations stay sane, I can't imagine. Unless you assume that anyone on your LAN is trusted (a bad mistake IMHO)... I've frankly given up on patching my (Mandrake) box, there's waay to much software to keep track of, and life's too short to spend hours a day reading Bugtraq, downloading and applying patches when yet another buffer overflow is found in Pine (or whatever)...
Yes, of course I should remove everything except the apps I actually use... you've done that, right? Every time you want to play with / explore some new app, you install it from the CD, apply patches, and then carefully remove it when you're done with it, right? I *don't* think so:) --
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Diesel has a major environmental disadvantage over even nasty ol' petrol ('gas'): PM10s, particulate matter about 10 microns in diameter cause
significant health risks and are present in large quantities in diesel exhaust.
Back to the drawingboard then.
Personally, I have a very unpopular opinion on this subject. I think that we all need to get used to the idea that personal transport is a luxury, not a right. After all, mass personal transport has only been around for the last fity years or so. Not that cars should be banned, but the pricing needs to be vastly increased until the total environmental damage caused by them is reduced to acceptable levels.
I know this sounds like flamebait or troll, but it isn't. Yes, I can see why this will never happen, and why 99% of people will think it a bad or crazy idea in the first place. Mod me down if you will. Oh, you did already;) --
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
They're still distributing GPL'd software, whether they wrote it or not, whether it's an official capital-R Release or just something a few engineers threw up one weekend... --
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
Slashdot Mirror
I used to work at a music publisher. Take my word for it - the execs (and A&R people) at those places are pure evil. And that's not a word I like to use.
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ORBS seems to be down & out for the count. Story on the Register, as usual.
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"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
> the industry will have to offer something
>BETTER or CHEAPER. Until that happens, we all
>keep our protection-free CD and MP3 players,
>and we buy only music that is compatible with
>them. The industry will continue to sell
>unencrypted CDs because the customers don't
>have the hardware to play anything else.
Some of us remember the way that vinyl records were ruthlessly swept out of shops; this happened *ahead* of consumer acceptance of CDs. I certainly remember when it started getting harder and harder to find decent vinyl copies of stuff I wanted, and this was the major factor in me reluctantly moving to CD. Remember there was a >70% price hike at the same time, supposedly to because th ultra-clean lasts-forever sound quality of CD was worth more to the consumer than crackly old records...
Yes, I know, I could still get hold of fancy Technics 1200 DJ turntables if I really *want* to play my old records... can't afford that three hundred quid at present, though.
Personally I'm just waiting for the point when I can afford to digitise my 400-ish CDs, store backups and the original masters off-site and just use a RAID equipped fileserver to pipe music around my house... I can dream, goddammit!
--
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
The Register have a good story on this, tracking down the firms that have joined and spotting the common link between them. Hint: IBM were already a member; the enw joiner is IBM Microelectronics, ie., chip fabbers...
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"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
iomart.com are the cheapest I've found - not sure which geographical areas they cover though.
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"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
>traffic VERSUS how much of C&W's bandwidth is
>used by PSInet's traffic.
This is irrelevant. Even in the extreme case (one party a colo, the other a dialup provider), both provider's bandwidth has already been paid for by their respective customers. Sorry, I can't remember who actually pointed this out on nanog, it was over the w/e IIRC...
C&W has been dropping a lot of peers recently, there's been a busy discussion of this over the last week (and whether or not it's a short-term beancounter's move, or will actually help C&W in some obscure way.)
nanog is a fascinating place to lurk, (indeed if you find this topic interesting, read the entire, LONG, thread in the archives.) I've learned an awful lot about how the *real* networks (backbones down to leaf nodes) actually operate in from reading it. It's also fascinating to see extremely intelligent engineers, who between them built many well -known networks, wrote legendary software, and so on, fighting like schoolchildren in religious wars (securing open relays, ORBS vs. MAPS, NSP filtering on the backbone, etc etc).
The only problem is that every time it's mentioned on Slashdot, the signal::noise ratio seems to take another lurch downwards. If you haven't got a nanog-post account, you almost certainly don't need one.
--
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
For once, I guess we can be grateful someone didn't use strong encryption...
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"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
I looked into this for while as I'm paying nearly that much in POTS charges, but now I've decided to run my own web proxy, upgrade to 56K (yep, I'm still on 33.6)' hopefully that'll reduce charges whilst speeding up access a bit. I'll look back at DSL when the contention ratio is better and the service is cheaper. Oh, and I've got the OpenBSD firewall/gateway working properly... at present it keeps locking the password file apparently at random...
--
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
>Even animals are wise enough to set territories for themselves.
Yeah, they do so fundamentally through pysical violence. How is that different from capitalism? Of course we're all slaves, but it's got nothing to do with politics - it's thermodynamics. At least nowadays we're starting to realise that religions, political dogma, ideologies etc are merely tired attempts to distract us from the nature of reality.
Hope I don't sound to cynical... look, the truth might set you free, right? Well the truth is that freedom is an illusion resulting from our unusually highly-developed ability to communicate through speech and recorded culture. But we're at the mercy of unconscious forces - our genetic inheritance, plus the nature of causal reality, plus all the stuff we've experienced in our lives which "inform"(ha!) our points of view and opinions, so subtly that we get angry and defensive when this idea (that they are *our* unique ideas and insights) is refuted. Slashdot is a good example of a forum where everyone's competing to say "/I/ have an original / unique / insightful opinion or piece of knowledge". Why do we compete in this? So we can get status amongst our peers, so that we will be successful, get laid and reproduce ourselves more than our competitors.
IOn summary then, IMHO capitalism is the least of all evils - it does keep much of the world in physical poverty and exploit them for the benefit of a very few, but graudually (slowly, over decades/centuries) the living standards of the rest rise... so we get padded cells and carbon fibre bars on the prison windows, and new DVD players and OSen to play with to keep our minds off it. Huge corporations are a force for evil AND good, they need to be controlled by legislation; in this , very corporate-friendly, environment, it's proper and best that those laws are Liberal (I speak as a proud Liberal, in the UK sense at least) and attempt to prevent the worst corporatae excesses (buying out the copyright laws, for instance...)
Sorry this is rather rambling even by my standards, but it's Monday morning still and the **** who broke my code by committing conflicts on Friday pm still hasn't backed them out yet, causing this unfortunate tetchiness.
Nurse, more coffee and nicotine...
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"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
andrew@INEGO
$ grep -ir "regent" *
grep: Profiles/Administrator: Permission denied
grep: system32/config/AppEvent.Evt: Permission denied
grep: system32/config/SecEvent.Evt: Permission denied
grep: system32/config/SysEvent.Evt: Permission denied
Binary file system32/FINGER.EXE matches
Binary file system32/FTP.EXE matches
Binary file system32/NSLOOKUP.EXE matches
Binary file system32/RCP.EXE matches
Binary file system32/RSH.EXE matches
Sure enough, it's:
Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California.
All rights reserved.
Great, so NT is open source! Can I start burning it onto CD and selling them, then? Steve Ballmer says I can...
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"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
Finally, we'll get to find out whether the cabal really exist!
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"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
Actually, the world's oldest struct is still present the SCO^W Caldera UnixWare kernel. 28 years' uptime! takes a lickin', keeps on (clock) tickin'...
--
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
>radiation level as uranium ore.
Er, I don't know where you got your information from, but you are profoundly mistaken.
Different radioactive elements, and different isotopes of those elements, decay at differing rates; they turn into different decay products along the way, too (some of which are actually *more* dangerous than teh stuff they started out as). Most decay through a whole series of elements with different half-lives. This is sort-of related to the way carbon (C-14) dating works.
The number usually quoted in this context, and generally misunderstood, is 'half life'. This is the period of time taken for 50% a given mass of substance X to decay into something else. (remember the decay product can still be dangerous, and sometimes more so.) See also radon gas, which occurs naturally in granite (as found all over the southwest of the UK, in Scotland, and sundry other locations... I believe there is even some in the US!) which causes a statistically significant number of cases of lung cancer.
Of course one can argue "what's the big deal about a few unfortunate deaths from cancer, compared to the greater good of mankind?" - try making that argument to the mother of an 18 year old who just suffered a protracted and painful death from the disease...
Finally, even if it *was* "no more radioactive than uranium ore", it would still be highly dangerous. You might notice that houses tend not to be built over uranium mines. Of course, you're not making the environmentalist nut's error of thinking "it's "natural"! It MUST be safe, if not actually GOOD for us!" Speaking as an environmentalist nut, that attitude's one of several things that really piss me off about my fellow tree-huggers ;)
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"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
Yep, that looks like the exact one. Cheers for the link, /me has a happy Friday evening ahead re-reading that ;)
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"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
Thanks to those nutty museli-munching sandal wearing communist tree-huggers, the general public and *even world governments* (well, ones that aren't lead by an animated glove puppet, at any rate) are already well aware of the environmental damage caused by burning fossil fuels...
--
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
Wherever the stuff is stored, therefore, needs to be signed in such a way as to:
- Frighten people away, rather than attracting them with the idea of buried treasure, archeological relics or whatever;
- communicate this in a way that is culture-neutral. In other words, the third civilisation after us, in say 50,000 years' time (after the catastrophic collapse of ours (due to massive climate change and population growth the planet can no longer support) and the next (caused by brain damage resulting from the accidental translation of a fossilised Dummy's Guide to Windows) must be able to comprehend the message of whatever markers we erect despite having very different language, religious traditions, taboos, social structures, etc etc.;
- Do so reliably for geological periods of time.
Consider further that the oldest known human structures are about 5000 years old (in central America, IIRC.)I'm sure this story will be full of posts from the pro-nuclear lobby; I'm somewhat sympathetic to that PoV, with the exception of the hand-waving that goes on with regard to waste disposal (including defunct power stations themselves.) I grew up within 20 miles of the largest concentration of nuclear power in Western Europe (Oldbury, Berkeley, Hinkley Point) - the former stations were built in the mid 60s, had a design life of 21 years, were kept up and running for 30, and are now testbeds for decommmissioning. It's going to take a century *just to get the buildings into a safe state for long term storage* - a huge block of concrete containing the reactor core, sitting right on the edge of an enormous river with the highest tidal range in Europe. Hmmmmm. Was it worth it for 30 years of slightly-more-expensive than coal electricity? Well, hindsight is a wonderful thing... I suggest we learn from it.
Incidentally the UK Govt. just approved the first UK complex of off-shore windfarms. Another interesting experiment - might work, might be a white elephant, no way of telling without trying... but at least we know that cleaning them up afterwards will be nbd.
--
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
The problem is, I tend to forget to remove software; or rather, I never quite get around to deciding that I'm done evalling them. "Ooh, can't delete that just yet, I didn't ever get to grips with $feature..."
--
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
Hmmm,... the bugzilla links on the definition document to " total bugs nominated for 1.0" shows list of 397 bugs. A rough glance through the most recent status update seems to show something like 170 bugs resolved per week (and that's not including groups that didn't submit a status update.) OK, most of those will be targetted at 0.91, and there are still 318 listed for 0.9 (er, which was out a month ago, no?) but - it seems to imply that 397 / 170 == less than three weeks. What's expected to change - presumably more bugs will be found, or re-targetted at 1.0? Or is it that QA progress is expected to slow down? Or that the bugs that remain are real stinkers? ;) WHat have I missed?
--
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
Being stuck on a slow (33.6) dialup connection at home, I tend to compile lists of interesting URLs in emacs, then go online, grab a dozen or so in one go, then drop the line and read them at my leisure offline. This often takes more than one session, so when I come home the following evening and want to check Slashdot|UserFriendly|space.com whatever, I can't restart the browser without losing a few pages I've already DL'd. The net result is that I often end up with browser sessions lasting many days, sometimes more than a week, during which I've opened and closed tens of windows. A stable build (i.e., a milestone release or a just-before-milestone nightly) copes with that without any problems. (Occasionally I come across a page concealing a lurking browser-buster, but these are getting rarer and rarer these days.)
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"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
(the regression is fixed in the build I'm using to post this, BTW - 2001052420 )
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"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
WHilst I'm here - the current dailies are getting really, really slick (on Windows, at least) as the optimisation effort really gets going. I've been using moz more or less continuously since the first usable release of gecko; for much of that time I did it almost entirely as a gesture of support for Free software, and as a kiss-off to Microsoft. Now, I find myself cursing IE's little 'features' when I'm forced to use the damn thing. To all those people who post to every mozilla story saying "sadly I have to admit that IE is by far the best browser" -- don't you find it an enormous pain having to clear all the cookie and active scripting warning dialogs? What's that - you use IE at the default security settings? Hey, I must remember to post some links to one of my extra special sites... :)
--
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
Yes, of course I should remove everything except the apps I actually use... you've done that, right? Every time you want to play with / explore some new app, you install it from the CD, apply patches, and then carefully remove it when you're done with it, right? I *don't* think so :)
--
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
Back to the drawingboard then.
Personally, I have a very unpopular opinion on this subject. I think that we all need to get used to the idea that personal transport is a luxury, not a right. After all, mass personal transport has only been around for the last fity years or so. Not that cars should be banned, but the pricing needs to be vastly increased until the total environmental damage caused by them is reduced to acceptable levels.
I know this sounds like flamebait or troll, but it isn't. Yes, I can see why this will never happen, and why 99% of people will think it a bad or crazy idea in the first place. Mod me down if you will. Oh, you did already ;)
--
"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
Perhaps you'll understand when you're older.
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"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"
They're still distributing GPL'd software, whether they wrote it or not, whether it's an official capital-R Release or just something a few engineers threw up one weekend...
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"I'm not downloaded, I'm just loaded and down"