I don't know,I've read his blog a far bit and his postings are not one sided, he's been wrong and admitted it, and when he publishes changed adjusted data he explains what he changed and why.
You seem to be ignoring the states that have higher then normal temperature this year. Why? You seem to be linking overall global temperatures to a few states in the US. Why?
Considering there is/was snow in 49 out of 50 states (at the same time), it's hard to imagine this winter being warmer than usual anywhere except Alaska; feel free to cite a reference.
Well there are at least 98 major climate models, between that bunch anyone should be able to find any result they wanted! My thinking is if the science was really settled, there would be one model.
I wish there was a clueless moderation, your saying that increasing the global average temperature from the 20th century value of 287.05K to 287.71K a delta T of 0.229925100157% is a big deal.
"Because of the pronounced effect of interannual noise on decadal trends, a multi-model ensemble of anthropogenically-forced simulations displays many 10-year periods with little warming. A single decade of observational TLT data is therefore inadequate for identifying a slowly evolving anthropogenic warming signal. Our results show that temperature records of at least 17 years in length are required for identifying human effects on global-mean tropospheric temperature." Separating Signal and Noise in Atmospheric Temperature Changes: The Importance of Timescale, J. Geophys. Res., doi:10.1029/2011JD016263, in press.
B.D. Santer, Carl A. Mears, C. Doutriaux, Peter Martin Caldwell, Peter J. Gleckler, Tom M.L. Wigley, Susan Solomon, Nathan Gillett, Detelina P. Ivanova, Thomas R Karl, John R. Lanzante, Gerald A. Meehl, Peter A. Stott, Karl E Taylor, Peter Thorne, Michael F Wehner, Frank J. Wentz.
So 17 years without warming doesn't support the assumption that past warming due to anthropogenic CO2 will continue into the future toward catastrophic levels; if equilibrium climate sensitivity is 3 C and CO2 levels is 400 ppm, for temps to increase 3 C, we'd have to be at 800 ppm..
The subject of the referenced article is there are no methane tripping points, and if the author had a politicaly axe to grind and sway his objectivity, it would be more likely to lean toward a methane tripping point than away frono cherries needed.
Cherries? Dude RealClimate.com is one of the top Warmist sites, it was/is ran by Dr. Gavin Schimdt
a climatologist and climate modeler at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York. He works on the variability of the ocean circulation and climate, using general circulation models (GCMs). He has also worked on ways to reconcile paleo-data with models. He helped develop the GISS ocean and coupled GCMs to improve the representation of the present day climate, while investigating their response to climate forcing. The latest GISS GCM is called ModelE.
an American climatologist and geophysicist,[3] currently director of the Earth System Science Center at Pennsylvania State University, who has contributed to the scientific understanding of climate change over the last two thousand years. He has pioneered techniques to find patterns in past climate change, and to isolate climate signals from noisy data.
an isotope geochemist at the University of Washington in Seattle. His primary research interest is use of ice core records to document climate variability in the past. He also works on the geological history of ice sheets, on ice sheet dynamics, on statistical climate analysis, and on atmospheric chemistry.
a German oceanographer and climatologist. Since 2000, he has been a Professor of Physics of the Oceans at Potsdam University. He received his Ph.D. in oceanography from Victoria University of Wellington (1990). His work focuses on the role of ocean currents in climate change.[1] He was one of the lead authors of the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report.[1]
enestad er Bachelor of Science (Hons) (1992) i fysikk og elektronikk fra University of Manchester Institute of Science and Technology (tidligere UMIST, nå University of Manchester) i Storbritannia og Master of Science (1994) i fysikk fra New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology i USA (hovedoppgave i skyfysikk). Han har doktorgrad (Doctor of Philosophy (D.Phil), 1997) i fysikk fra Universitetet i Oxford (Storbritannia). Emnet for avhandlinga var havmodellering, Kelvinbølger i Stillehavet og El Niño-fenomenet.
a computational ocean chemist,[1] and has been a Professor at the Department of The Geophysical Sciences at the University of Chicago since 1993.[2] He has published research on the carbon cycle of the ocean and the sea floor. He has worked on the history of atmospheric CO2 concentration, the fate of fossil fuel CO2 over geologic time scales in the future, and the impact of CO2 on future ice age cycles, ocean methane hydrate decomposition, and coral reefs
A paleoclimatologist, Caspar Ammann studies climates of the past centuries and millennia, including the Little Ice Age and the Medieval Warm Period. His goal is to understand what caused climatic changes in the past in order to learn more about potential global warming in the future. He uses computer models to simulate climate history and compares the results to historical markers such as tree rings and ice cores to reconstruct the past. His research also looks at changes in the Sun's output, the influence of volcanoes on climate, and the extent to which 20th century warming is unprecedented in the recent geologic timescale. He is a researcher in NCAR's Research Appli
we are more concerned with methane tipping points (you know, when we burn enough carbon to warm the oceans and atmosphere so the TRILLIONS of tons of methane in permafrost and in undersea clathrate deposits are emitted). That promises runaway climate change.
Well what do real climate scientists have to say on this matter?
The possibility of a catastrophic release is of course what gives methane its power over the imagination (of journalists in particular it seems). A submarine landslide might release a Gigaton of carbon as methane (Archer, 2007), but the radiative effect of that would be small, about equal in magnitude (but opposite in sign) to the radiative forcing from a volcanic eruption. Detectable perhaps but probably not the end of humankind as a species. Much ado about methane
Also as I have just referenced RealClimate, you should go to hell and tell us if it to has frozen over this winter.
Remember how we were the scum of the Earth for not ratifeing the Koyoto agreement, yet we're the only country that met the emmissions target of the treaty we didn't ratify.
Actually there are two handfulls of Idiots, one handfull claiming a cooling trend is happening and one handfull claiming a warming trend. Most reasonable people, who don't have a vested interest in either outcome are pretty consistant in saying any trend right now is too deeply buried in natural noise to be determined.
There IS scientific consensus. Just no political consensus. Equals: we are so screwed.
If there is a scientific consensus, then what is the Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity? That's the Billion dollar question, the Apocalyptic Global Warmists need a value above 3 for their vision of Thermageddon to come to fruition, yet emerging research is pointing to a value of 1.5-1.8. The only real consensus I've seen is that 98% of the climate models agree, the real world observations are wrong.
Obviously you've never attended PHB school, so here's how it works the precentage is sacred, so if your payroll goes up, then all the other expenses have to go up to keep the percentage the same; you don't even want to know about revenue vs. expenses ratios!
Most stocks have a relativly high by-in which keeps the average joe out of the normal stock market, but there are numerous ways arround to that percieved barrier; mutual funds, 401Ks and even stock clubs will get your foot in the door.
Being salaried and being overtime exempt really are two seperate issues. There is no advantage to an employer to have employees on salary plus overtime but it's certanly possible.
Then you put in a request for new equipment, and explain that it will make them far more in increased productivity from you than it costs. A $2k upgrade only needs to increase your productivity by $1/hour to return the investment in the first year. That's usually a no-brainer expense.
No-brainer PHBs in management usually have problems seeing such matters.
In my industry, payroll is 20% of total expenses so to raise the wage by $0.25/hr it costs $0.25/hr/0.20= $1.25/hr, but don't worry when Obamacare kicks in the employer mandate, any employee not worth a $20.00/hr is going to be on the street anyways.
The horoscope is simply a diagram of the position of the major planets, moon and Zodiac constellations, as such is quite scientific. Astrologers often make predictions of future events based on a person's birth horoscope and the current horoscope which is quite unscientific. Historically astronomers would cast horoscopes and do such saying for their rich patrons to fimance their scientific endeavors
If what your doing on the internet, fits in the parameters set by the incumbent of what a good netizen does you'll be fine; hanging out on an irc channel, no problem irc is just a den of hackers anyway back to dial-up speed for them, in fact lets just block any Well-Known Ports for anything except plain vanilla ports like HTTP, POP, FTP, it's just stinky long-haired, neck bearded linux hippy using them anyways.
looks like mobile.slashdot and "reply to this" is borked, at least on kubuntu mozilla; so I'd say it's more alpha quality than beta quality still. Back on topic, I'm listening to Skinny Puppy now on pandora, I can see how Military Brass would think it would be good torture music; it would get pretty agravating playing 24/7. As far as getting paid, I don't think they should hold their breath, I'm sure that the DoD will just say it's covered under their American Forces Radio and Television Service lisences.
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We covered a lot of those topics in our "Problems of Democracy" class even back in the '70s
I don't know,I've read his blog a far bit and his postings are not one sided, he's been wrong and admitted it, and when he publishes changed adjusted data he explains what he changed and why.
You seem to be ignoring the states that have higher then normal temperature this year. Why?
You seem to be linking overall global temperatures to a few states in the US. Why?
Considering there is/was snow in 49 out of 50 states (at the same time), it's hard to imagine this winter being warmer than usual anywhere except Alaska; feel free to cite a reference.
Well there are at least 98 major climate models, between that bunch anyone should be able to find any result they wanted! My thinking is if the science was really settled, there would be one model.
I wish there was a clueless moderation, your saying that increasing the global average temperature from the 20th century value of 287.05K to 287.71K a delta T of 0.229925100157% is a big deal.
So 17 years without warming doesn't support the assumption that past warming due to anthropogenic CO2 will continue into the future toward catastrophic levels; if equilibrium climate sensitivity is 3 C and CO2 levels is 400 ppm, for temps to increase 3 C, we'd have to be at 800 ppm..
The subject of the referenced article is there are no methane tripping points, and if the author had a politicaly axe to grind and sway his objectivity, it would be more likely to lean toward a methane tripping point than away frono cherries needed.
There was serious consideration of banning dark colored roof shingles!
Actually the warming has been stalled for about 17 years
Cherries? Dude RealClimate.com is one of the top Warmist sites, it was/is ran by
Dr. Gavin Schimdt
Michael E. Mann
Eric Steig
Stefan Rahmstorf
Rasmus Emil Benestad
David Archer (who wrote the article)
Caspar Ammann
we are more concerned with methane tipping points
(you know, when we burn enough carbon to warm the oceans and atmosphere so the TRILLIONS of tons of
methane in permafrost and in undersea clathrate deposits are emitted). That promises runaway climate change.
Well what do real climate scientists have to say on this matter?
Also as I have just referenced RealClimate, you should go to hell and tell us if it to has frozen over this winter.
Remember how we were the scum of the Earth for not ratifeing the Koyoto agreement, yet we're the only country that met the emmissions target of the treaty we didn't ratify.
Actually there are two handfulls of Idiots, one handfull claiming a cooling trend is happening and one handfull claiming a warming trend. Most reasonable people, who don't have a vested interest in either outcome are pretty consistant in saying any trend right now is too deeply buried in natural noise to be determined.
There IS scientific consensus. Just no political consensus. Equals: we are so screwed.
If there is a scientific consensus, then what is the Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity? That's the Billion dollar question, the Apocalyptic Global Warmists need a value above 3 for their vision of Thermageddon to come to fruition, yet emerging research is pointing to a value of 1.5-1.8.
The only real consensus I've seen is that 98% of the climate models agree, the real world observations are wrong.
Obviously you've never attended PHB school, so here's how it works the precentage is sacred, so if your payroll goes up, then all the other expenses have to go up to keep the percentage the same; you don't even want to know about revenue vs. expenses ratios!
Most stocks have a relativly high by-in which keeps the average joe out of the normal stock market, but there are numerous ways arround to that percieved barrier; mutual funds, 401Ks and even stock clubs will get your foot in the door.
Being salaried and being overtime exempt really are two seperate issues. There is no advantage to an employer to have employees on salary plus overtime but it's certanly possible.
Then you put in a request for new equipment, and explain that it will make them far more in increased productivity from you than it costs. A $2k upgrade only needs to increase your productivity by $1/hour to return the investment in the first year. That's usually a no-brainer expense.
No-brainer PHBs in management usually have problems seeing such matters.
In my industry, payroll is 20% of total expenses so to raise the wage by $0.25/hr it costs $0.25/hr/0.20= $1.25/hr, but don't worry when Obamacare kicks in the employer mandate, any employee not worth a $20.00/hr is going to be on the street anyways.
The horoscope is simply a diagram of the position of the major planets, moon and Zodiac constellations, as such is quite scientific. Astrologers often make predictions of future events based on a person's birth horoscope and the current horoscope which is quite unscientific. Historically astronomers would cast horoscopes and do such saying for their rich patrons to fimance their scientific endeavors
If what your doing on the internet, fits in the parameters set by the incumbent of what a good netizen does you'll be fine;
hanging out on an irc channel, no problem irc is just a den of hackers anyway back to dial-up speed for them, in fact lets just block any Well-Known Ports for anything except plain vanilla ports like HTTP, POP, FTP, it's just stinky long-haired, neck bearded linux hippy using them anyways.
Just use beta.slashdot.org for the url. It took 30 seconds for the comment box to appear and moderation is broken, so good luck
Yes I'd much rather see goat.cx smiling at gay niggers licking hot grits off a nake petrifided Natalie Portman anyday too.
looks like mobile.slashdot and "reply to this" is borked, at least on kubuntu mozilla; so I'd say it's more alpha quality than beta quality still.
Back on topic, I'm listening to Skinny Puppy now on pandora, I can see how Military Brass would think it would be good torture music; it would get pretty agravating playing 24/7. As far as getting paid, I don't think they should hold their breath, I'm sure that the DoD will just say it's covered under their American Forces Radio and Television Service lisences.
You do realize that anhydrous ammonia is quite cumbustable, I think they used it to fuel diesel Busses durring the fuel shortages of WW II.