Did it ever occur to you that maybe the people who post stories don't check k5 every time they post a story? They post stories off the submission queue...if you want to complain, complain to the person who submitted it.
Check this page from the MySQL manual. It describes how to setup MySQL as an ODBC datasource. If you can manage to get that to work, you might be able to do what you want. Granted...I wouldn't recommend it because any way you slice it I can't imagine it not being a nightmare to implement, manintain or troubleshoot.
It's not like everything they made 30 years ago is still around you know. There are plenty of 'old tech' solutions that weren't solutions at all. Next you will want to ban humans in space because that introduces the 'human error factor' and you will send chimps instead right?
Slashdot is not a local forum. It would make no sense for them to cover local issues and even if they felt they should, how would they? Of course local elections are important (see Kansas vs Evolution and San Diego School Board vs Evolution) but to say that Slashdot is ignoring is silly at best.
The arrogance of some is truly ammusing. Don't not fall into the easy trap of thinking closed source code is of poor quality. Making that assumption is as bad as thinking people who encrypt email have something to hide.
Plus, PGP Freeware integrates with almost any mac app. Outlook Express is really nice now for following bugtraq;-) Nothing like signing ICQ messages...
...and yet people still buy books. Seriously though, some people (like myself) just don't do as well with online docs. O'Reilley books are vital to me in configuring samba and apache. Both of these have extensive online docs yet I still need the books. There is no latency;-)
Helixcode is now starting to take security seriously. I'm sure at first it was overlooked simply to get things "up and running" and they do say that Helix Gnome is beta. They have fixed a number of problems reported on BUGTRAQ. I'm sure, now that they seem to staff and money, they will start a very secure system. Signing packages with GPG wouldn't hurt for starters. Please remember though that, "security is a process, not a product."
If Adobe is running scared why are they suing Macromedia for copying their interface. Macromedia knows that once Adobe puts out a flash exporting tool (read: LiveMotion) with the Adobe Interface that their flash tools are as good as dead. It is Macromedia who is running scared...
Nobody seemed to cry "you're not standards compliant" then; instead, they hailed Netscape for their "innovation" (now a tainted word after Microsoft abused it so.)
Not so. Everyone who had to actually markup pages then knew what two radically different browsers would mean. I don't know where you were hanging out then, but ratio wise (since there are so many more people do web stuff now) I heard the same about of bitching back then as I do know.
Yes, some things were asked for and to a certain extent Netscape and early IE 3 did tend to push the envelope. But now look where that has gotten us. Netscape tosses its code base and goes back to make a standars complaint browser and Microsoft goes ahead and tries to create the next BLINK tag.
For a while, no one will be able to ignore netscape simply because of install base. Hopefully...
Linus takes are very hard when it's ready line with the development. Sure Alan does a kick ass job of getting pre releases out, but you don't hear as much bitching about that.
After releasing one small GPL program (that was only really usefull to perhaps a small group of people) and getting nothing but flames, I know the feeling.
With VA taking a pounding in the NASDAQ maybe they had to lay off all the project managers...whos knows why. But sometimes it seems that the Linux community (and to a lesser degree, the Free Software Community) takes the approach or bitch first, ask questions later.
Don't foget how these terms are all shoved down our throats all the time...the only one that matters is when the machines are on the shelf at the store.
I did a little digging into some Office 2000 "white papers" and Microsoft talked a lot about storing a lot of internal file format stuff in XML. I think they might be doing a little buzz word dropping and embrace and extend at the same time. They are say they are basically using XML for all their 'save as' formats such as HTML. Link here
I can't say for sure since I haven't purchased a copy of Office 2000 yet.
When you go to a library and you need help, you ask a librarian. They will help point you in the right direction so you don't spend all your time looking up the wrong tree. I don't see any difference. The web is huge and there are lots of 'wrong trees' out there. I don't see what is so bad about pointing someone to the right information once you get off your intellectual high horse.
My advice is to read Applied Cryptography ISBN: 0471117099.
I remember when people touted making your own distrobution as an advantage of linux. Whatever happened to that 'if you don't like it, roll your own' philosophy?
Keep in mind though that not every program can be made to work in a commandline mode. Remember, no everyone runs ncurses on their system;-)
Also, a lot of the gnome and kde stuff is merely gui front ends to a command line program. Grip sits on top of any number of CD rippers and mpeg encoders. Gwget sits on top of wget.
Also when you mention that some of your favorite apps have gone to one or the other guis only please keep in mind that the people creating these works have limited time. A lot of decisions are based on saving time. Try reading kernel-traffic and you'll see how much of what goes on depends on the effect it will have on the life of Linus.
Finally, it is not required of programmers to support everyone under the sun. It is certainly nice if they do, but don't go laying a guilt trip on people if they don't.
Will you people get over it already. Seriously. This is getting silly. Bacteria have such a small genome that they basically can do one thing and do that one thing well. Bacteria don't decide that they are going to do anything. They just do it. No pun intended.
No one complains when bacteria are used to produce antibiotics. No one complains when bacteria is used to produce food. Why not get all fired up over that?
Does anyone just sit back and enjoy the hack anymore? It seems everyone wants to jump 20 steps ahead all the time. At least take a few seconds to give credit for the hack...
Here we have a person/group of people who complete a not so trivial task and the first thing people hit them with is, 'gee, is that all, it wont clean my room for me?'
At least give them a day to bask...
Or has the time come when none can rest and all must push for world domination by next tuesday at the latest?
Did it ever occur to you that maybe the people who post stories don't check k5 every time they post a story? They post stories off the submission queue...if you want to complain, complain to the person who submitted it.
Check this page from the MySQL manual. It describes how to setup MySQL as an ODBC datasource. If you can manage to get that to work, you might be able to do what you want. Granted...I wouldn't recommend it because any way you slice it I can't imagine it not being a nightmare to implement, manintain or troubleshoot.
Natch...face it, people still like having a book they can wander around with, dog ear pages, draw on, rip out, or burn if they want to.
Anyway, vote Monty Burns for Preseident.
Yeah, becuase they never promote Debian around here...
8-p
Maybe I'm over paranoid but there is no way in hell I let that box stay up.
Plus, PGP Freeware integrates with almost any mac app. Outlook Express is really nice now for following bugtraq ;-) Nothing like signing ICQ messages...
Pat
How many times have they tried to move Hotmail to NT/2000?
I know a manager at bCentral and every quarter he is asked about his migration path to 2000.
I'm sure every other department that doesn't use 2000 at this point is under orders to figure out a way to use it.
Ironically, Apple uses 2000 for it's beta knowledge base.
Not so. Everyone who had to actually markup pages then knew what two radically different browsers would mean. I don't know where you were hanging out then, but ratio wise (since there are so many more people do web stuff now) I heard the same about of bitching back then as I do know.
Yes, some things were asked for and to a certain extent Netscape and early IE 3 did tend to push the envelope. But now look where that has gotten us. Netscape tosses its code base and goes back to make a standars complaint browser and Microsoft goes ahead and tries to create the next BLINK tag.
For a while, no one will be able to ignore netscape simply because of install base. Hopefully...
If you do a background check on someone who is buying a gun, don't you then know who has the guns?
Linus takes are very hard when it's ready line with the development. Sure Alan does a kick ass job of getting pre releases out, but you don't hear as much bitching about that.
After releasing one small GPL program (that was only really usefull to perhaps a small group of people) and getting nothing but flames, I know the feeling.
With VA taking a pounding in the NASDAQ maybe they had to lay off all the project managers...whos knows why. But sometimes it seems that the Linux community (and to a lesser degree, the Free Software Community) takes the approach or bitch first, ask questions later.
Don't foget how these terms are all shoved down our throats all the time...the only one that matters is when the machines are on the shelf at the store.
I did a little digging into some Office 2000 "white papers" and Microsoft talked a lot about storing a lot of internal file format stuff in XML. I think they might be doing a little buzz word dropping and embrace and extend at the same time. They are say they are basically using XML for all their 'save as' formats such as HTML. Link here
I can't say for sure since I haven't purchased a copy of Office 2000 yet.
My advice is to read Applied Cryptography ISBN: 0471117099.
There, that wasn't so bad now was it?
Keep in mind though that not every program can be made to work in a commandline mode. Remember, no everyone runs ncurses on their system ;-)
Also, a lot of the gnome and kde stuff is merely gui front ends to a command line program. Grip sits on top of any number of CD rippers and mpeg encoders. Gwget sits on top of wget.
Also when you mention that some of your favorite apps have gone to one or the other guis only please keep in mind that the people creating these works have limited time. A lot of decisions are based on saving time. Try reading kernel-traffic and you'll see how much of what goes on depends on the effect it will have on the life of Linus.
Finally, it is not required of programmers to support everyone under the sun. It is certainly nice if they do, but don't go laying a guilt trip on people if they don't.
"Call me paranoid, but..."
Will you people get over it already. Seriously. This is getting silly. Bacteria have such a small genome that they basically can do one thing and do that one thing well. Bacteria don't decide that they are going to do anything. They just do it. No pun intended.
No one complains when bacteria are used to produce antibiotics. No one complains when bacteria is used to produce food. Why not get all fired up over that?
Don't forget to mention that a RSA kay was cracked and a 'borg' client was created.
I think shorter shows on a more regular schedule would rock.
Does anyone just sit back and enjoy the hack anymore? It seems everyone wants to jump 20 steps ahead all the time. At least take a few seconds to give credit for the hack...
Here we have a person/group of people who complete a not so trivial task and the first thing people hit them with is, 'gee, is that all, it wont clean my room for me?'
At least give them a day to bask...
Or has the time come when none can rest and all must push for world domination by next tuesday at the latest?
Anyway, congrats to those who hacked...