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Watching DVDs in Linux HOWTO

IceFox writes "Last week CSS Disk encryption was cracked. Soon after the data encryption was cracked. With some hagling I got everything working and was able to watch DVDs in Linux. Sound, Video, the works. I wrote up a how to for anyone else that cares to do it." Its not quite ready for prime time. No sound and vid at the same time. Update by roblimo: Jens Axboe sent a link to his page, which contains additional Linux/DVD info.

398 comments

  1. Re:You're making the same mistake. by Musc · · Score: 1


    But we aren't talking about theft, we are talking about duplication.

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  2. Missing the point by Cariboo · · Score: 3

    I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I think everyone here is missing what DVD encrytion is all about. IIRC the movie studio's don't give a damn whether you copy thier product or not. The idea behind encrypting the data is so that you can't make an exact duplicate of the movie. You can copy the thing as much as you want. The movie producers problem is that with the ability to digitally copy almost anything there is no degradation, a 20th generation copy is just as good as the 1st generation copy. With DVD we now have the ability to have almost the same experience at home as we do in the theater. This is not a copy protection issue, but rather a picture quality issue. If anyone has read the copyright notice at the start of the movie,instead of fast forwarding through it, you'll note that you can copy the movie for your own usage as much as you want, as long as it is not for financial gain.

    So just to state the obvious, copy to your hearts content, just don't expect the same quality as the origional

    1. Re:Missing the point by jbf · · Score: 2

      Bits is bits. You're getting out the original data... no generational loss. I don't get your point here... it's not like you're making an analog copy (like on to videotape).

    2. Re:Missing the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. Ever try connecting the Video out of a DVD player to the Video in of a VCR? What happens is the brightness and color saturation levels alternate. You will go from normal brightness with normal color to low brightness and high color. Via this method, a non bit/bit copy, the quality is reduced. This is not referring to the quality of VHS tape. But there is a change in the video signal that video ports on TVs can filter, but the video ports on devices like VCRs can not filter. Jeff - who tried connecting his DVD player to a TV without audio/video inputs using his VCR as a converter

    3. Re:Missing the point by voidptr · · Score: 1

      The proposed standard for protecting HD-DVD (or whatever acronym it is this week) and possibly regular DVDs now, is to watermark the physical tracks on the disk. This avoids the problem of encryption. Everything is done in the drive. You can copy the movie to a DVD-rom, but it won't be watermarked like the original, and the drive won't access the copy.

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    4. Re:Missing the point by C.Lee · · Score: 1

      >With DVD we now have the ability to have almost the same experience >at home as we do in the theater.

      Total Bullshit. If you think watching a moive on a box with a glass screen can be compared to seeing a movie in a theater with your friends I really feel sorry for you. Seeing Stars Wars or 2001 on a 19-inch box *IS NOTHING LIKE SEEING IT IN A THEATER* and it *NEVER WILL BE*

    5. Re:Missing the point by Otto · · Score: 1

      Yes, this is the Macrovision encoding added by your DVD player. Get a remover.. They cost maybe $50 tops. Easy. Plug the remover inline and the Macrovision goes away...

      Just wanted to say that.
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  3. Re:1984 Doubletalk by Patrik+Nordebo · · Score: 1

    I'm not saying this is necessarily the reason, but in 1948, making a copy of a book was expensive. In order for a publisher to publish his book, he would either had to have footed the bill himself (probably not something he was willing to do) or give them exclusive rights to it, so that they felt they had a reasonable chance of making a profit off of it. So distributing it freely would have, in essence, meant not distributing at all. Back then most people probably never even considered not getting their work published if they wanted people to read it.
    Today, an author who is not interested in making money off his work can just put it up on a web page, and let people read it for free. Of course, this make it inaccessible to those who don't use the net, and it is also harder to get people to notice it. The average bookstore probably has only a few thousand titles, often organised in sections, whereas there are hundreds of millions of web pages, and they're almost completely unorganised.

  4. DTCP crypto evilness: boxes can be locked out! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    However, this is so far the industry's best effort at a universal copy-resistant format; as the tide turns our way, it might hopefully be their last.

    Some companies (seemingly led by Sony) have come up with an even more evil scheme called DTCP. In DTCP, each box has its own key (and for software, presumably each computer might get its own key), and The Bad Guys(tm) circulate a blacklist of keys that have been compromised. If a blacklisted system tries to talk to another system, it will be denied. This means they can lock out VCRs and individual copies of the software remotely.

  5. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 1
    But right now?

    A) Get your widgets! $20
    B) $2
    A) $20.
    B) $10.
    A) $20.
    B) Forget it, I have options. I'll not listen to it or I'll go copy it. At least when I copy it, I do get to know the artist and if I really enjoy it will likely subsequently buy further articles, and I get the enjoyment of actually getting the entertainment. Both sides benefit, to a certain degree. Not monetarily, perhaps. But money isn't everything.

    And you're quite correct about the voluntary payment. That model has been proven to hardly ever work, but then, one might argue that it's never been implemented properly, either. :)

  6. Re:Hardware Decoders... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Software decoding is fine and dandy as long as you only want to watch movies on your monitor. I still haven't seen a video card with TV-out that matches the output quality of a hardware decoder.

  7. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Burnon · · Score: 1

    "When I go to the theatre, I want to pay money to be entertained."

    That's really beside the point. You are being offered a license to view a movie for a price. Entertainment isn't guaranteed. If that is too risky a proposition, you need not pay. You may find alternative entertainment. If you view the movie without paying, you have comitted theft, have you not?

  8. Re:I know I am Offtopic... by Keeper · · Score: 1

    I've got a "real" player hooked up to my entertainment system.

    No point in buying a DVD unless you're going to watch it properly, not on some dinky 15" monitor with crappy PC speakers ;).

    (yes, I know some people have ungodly sized monitors, and a rarer few have a good quality sound system hooked up to their puter...).

  9. Re:You're making the same mistake. by Burnon · · Score: 1

    I'm talking about theft - you're talking about duplication. I say that's the same thing - you say it isn't.

  10. Re:Hardware Decoders... by smash_phase · · Score: 1

    I don't agree on this matter, I tried several software decoders and I was very impressed about the Cinematics 99 engine. I was able to get a very crisp and clear and vibrant video play with it on my old Intel 740 and OC-ed Celeron 450(they use some kind of techniek to put a quadrupple buffer into your video memory), not really highend hardware these days and I think under Linux it could even be done better... eg. WinDVD says, they are only a small team of young coders, so that's the only ingredient you'll need...

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  11. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    no alternative exists to their form of entertainment

    No alternative to movies? Are you that devoid of imagination? If you don't like movies, read a book. If you don't like books, watch TV (that's free). If you don't like TV, play a game of solitaire. If you don't like solitaire, take up needle-point.

    You sound like a child with a room full of toys complaining to its mother that it's bored.

    And if, as you argue, society really needs better social relationships you should skip the movie and go out and make a friend.

    The producer did it to all the innocent, unknowing people that paid to see the crappy movie

    If you're "unknowing" it's your own damn fault. Read a review. Ask a friend. Watch the ads. Got to www.imdb.com. Are you seriously trying to suggest there's no way to know beforehand whether you're going to like a movie or whether it's any good?

    I don't feel like gambling my money on the entertainment prospect of a movie every time I go to the theatre.

    Uh - then don't go. No one will miss you. I promise. Or wait for it to hit the cheap theatres. If that's too expensive, wait for the video and split the cost with a friend. Or if you're really a cheapskate, wait for it to hit the airwaves so you can see it for free.

    If you don't want to pay the price of a movie ticket -- don't. There are countless other legal ways to get your movie fix for less without resorting to twisted logic to justify theft.

  12. Re:DVD = Damned Video Decoding by Keeper · · Score: 5

    The Matrix DVD isn't buggy, rather the players themselves arn't up to spec (ie: the manufacturers cut features to make a shipdate, because "who will ever use that overlay feature?").

    If the disc were buggy all of the players would exibit the same problems. Seeing how one thing is broken on one player, while another is broken on another indicates (to me) the player is broken in these instances.

    For what it's worth the Panasonic A-110 is one of the few players I've seen that play it properly.

    I'm still impressed that they used every last byte that the disc could hold... all 4.3gigs :).

  13. Re:Project list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Just run one with windows so you can watch DVD/VCD and play games. "

    I don't run Windows for reasons of sanity, and or ethics. I choose not to support the man. All Linux, all the time over here. So yes I can't wait for DVD on Linux. But until it runs right I will.

  14. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by TummyX · · Score: 1

    21. Cohesive level of componentisation thru ActiveX and COM.
    22. Decent webbrowser (yes had to say it again)
    23. Visual Studio, and other COMPLETE RAD and IDEs.
    24. A decent API for install and settings. Huge *rc files and XF86Config files are lame compared to a centralized registry IMHO. Even corba etc needs one.
    25. GUI that doesn't crash as much as XFree.

  15. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Patrik+Nordebo · · Score: 1

    Individuals can certainly have it both ways. If I stop paying for CDs and movies, the industry wouldn't even notice. Whether I copy the things that they produce illegally or just abstain from them makes absolutely no difference to them, therefore I can both benefit from the big budget stuff and not pay. If everyone did this, it wouldn't work, of course, but I make negligible difference, so I don't need to worry about that.
    In case someone wants to say "but what if everyone did that": that's irrelevant. Whether I pay for my entertainment or not does not have an effect on whether other people do so. That, plus the fact that my contribution has negligible effect on the industry, makes that argument irrelevant.
    Personally, I see no problem in copying things without paying the authors. However, if you appreciate what they produce, it is a good idea to give them money for it, so they can continue doing it. Also it is a way of showing your gratitude, though that can be done without paying money. Additionally, if other people see that those artists get money for what they do, they might be willing to try themselves. But that doesn't make it a moral imperative to pay. People may disagree with this, but that doesn't make them right. The fact that copyright infringement is illegal doesn't make it morally wrong, either, just illegal. There is no such thing as absolute morals.

  16. Re:Doublespeak, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh Please give me a break. Perhaps you should read 1984 a few times over before you go misquoting it.

  17. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Musc · · Score: 1

    No. Theft would be if I stole it from the movie store. I can view it without paying by going to a friends house. That is legal, is it not? Say me renting a seat in the theatre is worth 2 dollars. Then I should pay maybe 2 dollars for the ticket. If I want to donate to the producers, that is my business and my business alone.

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  18. Does this work with SCSI DVDROM's? by 0x25 · · Score: 1

    I just want to clarify that I'm the problem and nothing else. Does the DVD for Linux work with SCSI DVDROM's?

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    1. Re:Does this work with SCSI DVDROM's? by IceFox · · Score: 1

      yes it works with SCSI cd-roms

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  19. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Burnon · · Score: 1

    The solution is simple, then. Only view/take 40 year old media!

    I was wondering when you'd get around to saying that you are only playing Devil's Advocate!

  20. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 1
    Just to be stickle: It's copyright infringement when I copy indiscriminately, until 40 years when it's no longer copyrighted. At which point I can copy as much as I please. :)

    But that's external to the arguments at hand. If I buy a license to get a movie, I should not have to pay until after I have seen the movie. Entertainment is not guaranteed, so why should my money be guaranteed? And it seems inappropriate to boycott the movie industry when I can vindicate my arguments by inflicting copyright infringement upon them.

    Which, I might add, does give them exposure of actors, advertisements, directors, etc., to which I might later on be biased towards or against. And as such, they have gained something by me watching their film.

  21. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by KlTheKiten · · Score: 1

    26. AutoCAD r14, 2000
    27. Various job-essential proprietary software packages designed to work exclusively w/ any one of m$'s office titles. (i.e. Access)

    :(

    I expect to see more "portability" w/ improvements to wine and vmware...

    Here's to the future and os stability!

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  22. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by Patrik+Nordebo · · Score: 3

    Componentisation with ActiveX and COM? So they are the end-all, be-all of component technology, using something else is not an option?
    We have lots of complete IDEs. RAD tools aren't that common, but IMHO they suck anyway. Xemacs is a great IDE. Then there are KDevelop, Code Crusader, CodeWarrior, GNUpro, xwpe, RHIDE, and probably a lot of other things that I don't recall at the moment. Exactly what is it that Visual Studio has that these are missing, beyond GUI builders?
    As for configuration, why do we need a registry? A registry is in no way necessary for GUI config tools, so that's not an argument.
    A more stable XFree86 would be nice, but given that it has crashed 4 times in 5 years for me, it's not that huge an issue. And with a bit of luck, XFree86 4 might be more stable.
    A decent web browser we definitely need. And I think Mozilla will provide us with one, though it's a while till that's finished.

  23. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think the whole point of this thread has been morals. Your quick disreguard of morals is obviosuly displayed in your decision to priate music and videos. It doesn't matter whether you think its fair or not, the fact is that you are stealing. Stealing is illegal as well as immoral (at least to most people and in most major religions). What's even worse, you argue "fairness" over a non-essential. Come-on! Give me a break! Almost all piraters I know in real life (e.g. juarez/mp3 kiddies) are utterly lazy and don't want to *work* (I personally know 10 -- and they are quite a diverse group (e.g. different ethnic backgroud, social type, etc.)). That really is the underlying motivation to pirating. NOT WORKING -- BEING LAZY. I think mp3 is a really cool idea, and I have a ton of mp3s, but 99.9% of mine are legal and ripped straight from my cd-collection. I like the fact that I can easily choose between songs without having to sort through 40-50 cds. I don't use mp3 because I can download a song from the net without paying. Believe it or not, there is a differnce. Whatever happened to integrity and ethics?

  24. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by chkdsk · · Score: 1
    • Gimp - need I say more? Check out Linux.com to see what can be done in this excellent piece of software (blatent plug) also check out tigert.gimp.org
    • StarOffice, WordPerfect, etc.
    • Netscape, Mutt, and others...
    • Loki, id, EpicGames, and more.
    • DVD is starting to work in Linux (and there are DVD players for TVs btw)
    • USB mice work in 2.2.x, 2.3.x has much better USB support
    • Cut and paste works great here w/ all apps... select w/ left mouse button and paste w/ the middle one
    • Red Hat and others have great installers, Debian has an excellent thing called "apt" to install programs and more after initial installation (and you can even upgrade your whole system in place)
    • IBM has ViaVoice ported to Linux, and typing is still faster. *g*

  25. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A decent web browser we definitely need. And I think Mozilla will provide us with one, though it's a while till that's finished.

    I must have missed something here, but what do you class as a decent web-browser? What`s the big problem with Netscape 4.7 (Unless you`re not running on a i386 boxen, in which case i agree with you)?

  26. Buy one in California by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you should buy such a box in California and it's promised interoperability fails due to this blacklist, you can sue the manufacturer for selling you a defective product (Not to mention false advertising).

  27. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 0
    The solution is simple, then. Only view/take 40 year old media!
    lol. Movies will soon be there, except Disney and several giants are lobbying to have copyright laws extended to 80 years.
  28. Re:Sound and Video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Opps forgot the part about 600Mhz machine is required for that min. :)

  29. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Burnon · · Score: 1

    Why is IP an abomination? Your argument doesn't hold for physical things. Why is IP different?

    When you justify theft of IP with "that's life", consider that others would justify their theft of all your worldly possessions with the same argumet. Is their argument valid? In an a society without ethics, yes. But in an ethical society, both arguments are invalid.

  30. Re:Minimum specs for sound/video? by nmos · · Score: 1

    Any idea where the main bottleneck will be? Is an area where some of the MMX and related X86 extensions (and the equivalant PPC) might make a difference? or is this more of a memory/bandwith issue?

  31. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    He shot more than he starved, actually. In perspective, however, how many Americans dissappear each year, are shot each year by wanton crime that did not exist in such magnitude in Stalin's communism? It's a bit of a crude comparison, but there are benefits and drawbacks to both sides.

    I enjoy democracy, but there are definantly good things out there that we simply don't open our eyes to. Shot by the police or shot by my neighbor ... is there a happy medium? (suicide ... lol.)

  32. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Didn't linux have a 2GB filesize limit? I mean that would be to small to store files this big.

  33. This is going to get faster, real soon. by tietokone-olmi · · Score: 3

    From what I've heard, the decoder doesn't support the YUV conversion stuff in many modern graphics cards yet. So the code is pretty fast, for not-really-optimized C. So when the Xfree86 people come up with an extension to support hardware-based YUV conversion, things are going to get lots better with any format that requires a YUV conversion pass to play.

    And by the way, you can pretty much forget about $free{"beer"} decoder card software; from what I've heard, the DVD license comes on a per-developer fee and a hefty NDA. Which means that even if Creative wanted, they couldn't release any critical parts of the DVD "standard", even if the cat is already out of the basket.

    1. Re:This is going to get faster, real soon. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      > And by the way, you can pretty much forget about $free{"beer"} decoder card software; from what
      > I've heard, the DVD license comes on a per-developer fee and a hefty NDA.

      A real hardware decoder wouldn't have to put any of these specs out in the open-- it would just be a 'black box' that you feed a data stream into and get decoded output back.

      So, aside from stupid legal agreements that Creative may have made, there shouldn't be any real reason why they can't release information about their hardware.

    2. Re:This is going to get faster, real soon. by tietokone-olmi · · Score: 1
      So, aside from stupid legal agreements that Creative may have made, there shouldn't be any real reason why they can't release information about their hardware.

      Well, there is the encryption bit. I believe the DVD pushers consider that too a trade secret.

      Unless, of course, decryption is handled by the hardware, which I have a hard time believing; wouldn't it make sense to encrypt the whole disk, syncing data and all? If yes, how would the viewer hand the data over to the hardware (since there has to be a kind of "a block here, a block there" system in the stream, right?) without knowing about block boundaries? I personally can't believe that a card would buffer enough encrypted data to make a valid block, decode whatever that block contains into images and a PCM stream and then ask for more - that would be taking the "black box" thing a bit far.

      Not that I know anything about the typical hardware implementation of a real DVD decoder, so don't flame me for ignorance. :-)

    3. Re:This is going to get faster, real soon. by demon · · Score: 1

      Except that a lot of it isn't theirs to reveal - like the MPEG-2/DVD decoding chips on the Dxr3 decoder card. The chips are made by Sigma Designs, and just have Creative's name slapped on. (Specifically, it's the Sigma Hollywood+.) I don't know about the Dxr2 (I'm guessing the situation is similar tho).

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  34. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Burnon · · Score: 1

    Lobbying is not the same as law. You've got time :)

  35. Re: mfrs *CAN'T* be locked out! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5
    Actually 3 cryptoanalytical attacs against the various CSS ciphers have been produced in the last week alone.

    1) 2^^16 attack on the CSS cipher itself Requiring 6 known plaintext bytes

    2) A 2^^17 attack on the key generation, that will yield a deluge of player keys in a matter of minutes ( such as the randum nubers ). read here

    3) Finaly A third crack that will decrypt a DVD without even knowing a single player key. This attack is more complex (2^^24)but will give a valid key in less than 20 seconds on a decent machine.

    In short the CSS system was poorly designed, and has now been thuroughly been demolished.

  36. 1984 Doubletalk by Convergence · · Score: 1

    Oh, 1984 doublespeak
    BTW, have you noticed that the way they get people to talk is fascinatingly doublespeak.

    Freedom is Slavery, Duplication is Theft, Words are Property.

    1. Re:1984 Doubletalk by Burnon · · Score: 1

      Even more interesting, Orwell decided to sell his manuscript, his ideas, using the normal social contract, as opposed to distributing it freely. He did have that option, but chose otherwise. Do you suppose why he did this?

  37. it's a start... by maan · · Score: 1

    I must say: it's a start. But there's way much more work ahead... But they're in the right direction.

    Great job people! Thanks a lot!

    1. Re:it's a start... by IceFox · · Score: 1

      They might be in the right direction, but what they have done so far is child play in comparision to what is ahead of them (the IFO file)

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    2. Re:it's a start... by pberry · · Score: 5

      Does anyone just sit back and enjoy the hack anymore? It seems everyone wants to jump 20 steps ahead all the time. At least take a few seconds to give credit for the hack...

      Here we have a person/group of people who complete a not so trivial task and the first thing people hit them with is, 'gee, is that all, it wont clean my room for me?'

      At least give them a day to bask...

      Or has the time come when none can rest and all must push for world domination by next tuesday at the latest?

      Anyway, congrats to those who hacked...

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  38. Rare Few (?) by ffatTony · · Score: 1

    yes, I know some people have ungodly sized monitors, and a rarer few have a good quality sound system hooked up to their puter...

    Man, 15 inches is very small these days. I'm a rather poor college kid and even I was able to fork over the $500 for a 19" monitor and good sound (120 watt (?) boston acustics speakers and sub-woofer) I think this is much more common these days, then a crappy 13"/15" monitor and sb16.

  39. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by Patrik+Nordebo · · Score: 1

    The big problems with Netscape 4.7 are instability in the Javascript and Java support, and the fact that it leaks memory like there is no tomorrow.

  40. Minimum specs for sound/video? by Elvii · · Score: 1

    What are the minimum specs for playing sound/video, (ie, can I run it on a spare p200) or would it be wiser to just get a decoder card? Can't exactly afford to get p2+ atm, so wondering what I might need to put a low cost player together... in linux pereferably...

    David

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    1. Re:Minimum specs for sound/video? by IceFox · · Score: 3

      Min specs call for a 600Mhz proccesor(at least), because the Mpeg player is just a pixal pusher. It is highly unoptimized. Doing just video you can do it on a 450 (that is what my box is), but not a 300 and soudn works on 300.

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    2. Re:Minimum specs for sound/video? by bgdarnel · · Score: 3

      The page recommends 350mHz with 128M RAM for video alone, 600mHz for video and audio (there are software decoders for Windows that require significantly less horsepower simply because the software is more optimized). There are not yet any decoder cards that work with Linux. Another requirement that is not mentioned in the HOWTO is that you must be running a 16-bit X server.

    3. Re:Minimum specs for sound/video? by IceFox · · Score: 1

      oops forgot that. yes 16-bit server is needed. read my post earlier about not optimized at all :)

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    4. Re:Minimum specs for sound/video? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about dual pII/400, do you think that would do well enough for full video+sound?

  41. Old news really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CSS was cracked a long time ago, check 6/oct

    go read up at dvdutils.com and sehr.org and get

    DODSRIP or DECSS for windows...

    tsk, ripripripr now

  42. ripping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    I'm very glad that you can't simply copy the movies and post them, yes it is akin to mp3's but let's get the legal issues settled about the mp3's first so that there is some legal basis for the movies. Besides it doesn't make sense to take on hollywood as well as the record companies at the same time.

    1. Re:ripping by ddpg · · Score: 1

      It might not be reasonable now (just like CDRs used to cost alot when they were first introduced), but prices will fall to a point where the blanks will be cheaper than buying the DVD. When that happens, the industry will probably come up with a new scheme.

    2. Re:ripping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      from what it sounds like that is exactly what you can do... once you authenticate and then css-cat you have a decrypted .vob file...

    3. Re:ripping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember seeing something a while ago about how blanks will NEVER be less than DVD movies... this is supposedly how they got the moviemakers on board -- it's a licencing thing. of course, I read it on /., so take it with whatever fortified salt you deem appropriate :) chialea (who isn't logged in. deal :)

    4. Re:ripping by IceFox · · Score: 1

      What can you do with a decrippted vob file??? In its current state there really isn't much that you can do with it. The only player that will play a decrippted vob is mpeg2player. You can't copy it to a new DVD cause then it will try to get the title-key again. useless

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    5. Re:ripping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

      How do you mean?

      DVD's have a few forms of protection in CSS authentication and encryption, but both have been cracked for a while now although only recently has some source code been made available to the public.

      programs like DeCSS and DOD SpeedRipper (both windows proggies) have been able to extract the .VOB files (Video OBject -- mpeg2 streams) from dvds for a while and from there it's not a difficult process to convert to MPEG1 for the vcd "scene" .. as is evident by the number of DVD ripped movies available on the net ..

      I guess what i'm saying is this; the law has been flaunted for a while now, it's just that finally people who have a legitimate and legal right to view their own dvd's will finally be able to do so under linux.

      What i really can't wait for is for one or two big hardware decoder manufacturers to release some programming specs so we can have hardware assisted playback .. software decoding is soo slow.

      -Iain Wade

    6. Re:ripping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you only need to decrypt them off the original dvd's .. once you have them decrypted, if you have a DVD-RAM or something there's nothing to stop you just writing them to that .. in their unencrypted form.

      Any DVD/MPEG-2 playing software should play .VOB files.

      What more do you want to do with you decrypted VOB files? previously we haven't even been able to play them under linux.

    7. Re:ripping by IceFox · · Score: 1

      true, but still you do not get any of the extra functionality of the dvd. That is in the IFO, which isn't figured out yet.

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    8. Re:ripping by IceFox · · Score: 1

      OK quick thought. DVD-ROM's are how much each? $25 A DVD cost less then that. Simple math gives me what I am looking for.


      Again you can raw play the MPEG2, but you don't get any of the funtionality that DVD extras have to offer.

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    9. Re:ripping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well, mostly i don't care. i'm in it for the movie, not the trailers and stuff..

      of the 17 or so dvd's i own, only a few have even got any enhancements worth watching.

      in Australia (where i'm @) we're in region 4 and most of the locally availble titles are shit. very low quality overall "packages".

      this isn't to say that the movies suck (though they're a little old) - it's just that we haven't started to see the movie companies really use DVD technology to the fullest extent.

      however, the couple of region 1 dvd's i ordered from www.dvdexpress.com (matrix .. and some others) are actually very nice ..

    10. Re:ripping by IceFox · · Score: 1

      I'm talking about things like simple letterbox or TV. Even that isn't there.

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  43. Re:Whoa boy... by debrain · · Score: 1
    Someone put it like this:
    Is it theft, if I steal it and you have nothing less?

    I believe that the good movies are not there to make money, and the satisfaction that their movies are appreciated would justify their work.

    This says nothing about movies produced to make money, however.

  44. Actually, you can... by Ryandav · · Score: 4

    use video and sound simultaneously. It just requires a higher end machine or dual processor config...

    This is just because the code at this point is not optimized. It will be soon, since a large chunk of the interested geek communities (sound & video geeks + computer nerds) overlap...

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  45. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Foogle · · Score: 1
    That's life? That's life? You're answer to putting an industry out of business is "That's life"? Yeah, that's really good. What a wonderfully dillusional world you must live in, where everything revolves around you.

    Why should payment be viewed as a donation? In what way is paying someone for their product any type of an option? And even stranger, why should it be legal? What legal ground is there for allowing copyright infringement??

    Why is IP such an abomination? If you had your way, people would never get compensated for their effort. That's completely bogus -- In such a world where IP doesn't exist, what motivation is there for producing content?

    Your suggestion that the entire industry disappear is just plain ignorant. You obviously enjoy what the industry creates, otherwise you wouldn't even bother pirating it. What you proposing would wipe out an entire artform that you yourself find appealing. All because you had to be selfish.

    Imagine if that happened in the art world. Art is one of the most cherished and fundamental expressions of our culture. Artwork is considered intellectual property. By your statements, it would be okay with you if the entire industry of art disappeared, all because they weren't willing to give away their property for free.

    Grow up. You can't have everything for free. There are time when payment is due - people work hard and deserve to be compensated for their time.

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  46. min. specs by 47Ronin · · Score: 1

    let's see. minimum 233 MHz G3. either a dvd-decoding device or mpeg-video decoder or software-based dvd-decoder. dvd drive. a pudgy iMac can push dvd movies using its built-in dvd software-based decoder. actually, any mac with a dvd-drive can play movies. the dvd software comes with every mac (not to mention a very cool control interface).

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    1. Re:min. specs by IceFox · · Score: 2

      This is very early software, not optimized at all. Software solutions for linux will be able to play with 300Mhz eventually. This is a major leap that wasn't expected to occur untill much later.

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    2. Re:min. specs by iMoron · · Score: 2

      The DV iMacs (the ones with DVD drives) are 400 MHz G3's and from what I've heard, the audio and video often get out of sync. For smooth decoding, either a hardware decoder or a really fast CPU is required.

  47. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you expect great food at the prices you are paying at McDonalds you really are a *cheap* ass. God I'd hate to be the girl who'd have to go on a date with you.

  48. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by seeken · · Score: 1

    Comparing IP to physical property doesn't make sense.

    Any ethical arguement for IP can be dismissed as easily as an ethical arguement against it; the same applies to any ethical arguement for following an unjust law.


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  49. Re:Project list by tietokone-olmi · · Score: 3
    Well, this is all good and great, but we have a lot of data streams we have to break still :)
    -Quick time came up a few weeks ago on slashdot.

    I seem to recall that a QT/AVI player on the Amiga had a radius cinepak decoder and a CYUV decoder, in source. Although the formats that people would most desire are still the intel indeos... Yes, there are the xanim linkable files, but reverse engineering ain't fun.

    -We need to come up with a good GPLed VCD player (I can't find any, youknow of one?)

    I'd hack the SDLmpeg code myself to do this, if I knew something about the VCD format :-) After all, it's all in the headers, right? MpegTV (an evil capitalist piece of proprietary chicken poo) does this just by parsing the headers and separating the audio/video stream, IIRC.

    -console based Real-Audio receiver that can save to .wav or .mp3 or something

    Uhh... Realaudio sucks, compared to an equal bitrate (equal hz, too) LAME-encoded mp3 stream. IMO of course.

  50. THE MODERATORS ARE OUT OF CONTROL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why was that article moderated down!?! It is 100% the truth! Linux isn't going to last long on the desktop if it doesn't have DVD and USB support. Remember, not everyone is satisifed running their primary desktop on a 5 year old computer with hardware that Linux supports. They want the newest stuff that ONLY Win98 supports these days. Take it as flamebait if you will (and I am sure you will) but it is the truth and you know it. Linux is just NOT a desktop OS.

  51. Sonic Foundry and the One Microsoft Way by acb · · Score: 2

    Good luck. Sonic Foundry are in bed with Microsoft in a big way (they did much of the work behind the Windows Media format, for example). As such, their software is written around Microsoft's proprietary APIs and they don't even have Macintosh ports. (A sore point with me, as I have a Mac I run Cubase on, and would like to try ACiD on it.)

    Not sure whether MS owns a large chunk of Sonic Foundry, though I'd say it's not unlikely. This does look rather like an offensive to make Windows systems required equipment for music, much in the same way that Avid's dumping of QuickTime (under coercion by Microsoft) was designed to capture the video editing market.

  52. Re:HDTV DVDs - The next problem in 4~6 years... by Quickening · · Score: 5

    quite right that current dvd doesn't support hdtv resolutions. But it's just a scaling problem. DVD's are usually encoded at 480p (480x640 frames @ 30 fps). Highest HDTV is 1080x1920 progressive or about 19.3 Mbps or 2.4 MBps (Most broadcasts will be in 720p which is only 8.8 Mbps) By comparison, my 10x DVD-ROM does 13MBps.

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  53. Cut & Paste does not "work great" by Mawbid · · Score: 4
    I have to disagree with you on the cut and paste thing. I'm on google.com and my search didn't pan out too well. Ok, I'll try altavista. I select the text in the search field, go to altavista in the same window, middle click in the search field and what happens? The same thing that was in the box in Kentucky Fried Movie: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Oh well, I can just type in the same text all over again.

    Now, I've finally found a working url to q3test 1.08. I've used "copy link location" in Netscape's rmb menu to get the url into the clipboard and I'm going to paste it into a wget command line. Now, I'm going to be doing some X development and I'm afraid I'm going to crash X so I'll need to run wget under nohup in an xterm or in the console. I want to watch the download progress so I'll do it in the console. CTRL-ALT-F3, type "wget ", middle click. What happens? Some shit I selected in the console earlier and contains a load of newlines is pasted, causing wget to try download some garbage and the string "rm -rf /" (that happened to be leftmost on the screen in the garbage I had pasted earlier (presumably a copy of some haX0r digest)) to be executed as a command.

    Fortunately I'm not one of those lesser beings that do everything as root.

    Incidentally, the reason I'd selected that block of text is that I wanted to paste it into jed, running in another console. Guess what. That didn't work either!

    BTW, what are the universal cut, copy, and paste keypresses that work in almost all programs, X or console? What is the ubiquitous method of selecting text with the keyboard?

    "Cut and paste works great here w/ all apps... select w/ left mouse button and paste w/ the middle one" is an example of what we pride ourselves of not doing: sweeping problems under the rug instead of fixing them.
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  54. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    May I offer a little logic refresher?

    The reductio ad absurdum is an argument form which works backward from an absurd conclusion to show that a premise of the argument must be false. For example:

    1. Nothing can do what is physically impossible.

    2. It is physically impossible for bumblebees to fly.

    3. Therefore, bumblebees cannot fly.

    However,

    1. Bumblebees do in fact fly.

    2. Therefore, either premise one or two must be false (in this case, premise 2).

    It's a perfectly valid form of argument.

    To the first replier, I think the reductio in the original post went something like this:

    1. I shouldn't have to pay for a product I didn't like.

    2. I didn't like this movie. Therefore,

    3. I shouldn't have to pay for it.

    The reductio attempted to argue that the conclusion is not valid, say, in the case of a restaurant, and thus one of the premises must be wrong.

    Personally, I'm not sure the reductio argument succeeded, but not because the attempt was invalid.

    It is true that we can complain, and will often get our money back, if we didn't enjoy a good or a service. This can include restaurants. The question remains - did I get my money back because I have a right not to pay, or simply because the business is interested in maintaining good customer relations?

    A restaurant could certainly argue that it had an investment in the commodity - the raw materials and the preparation - which was done at the customer's request. Therefore, the customer has some obligation towards reimbursement.

    On the other hand, the customer could argue he didn't receive a good or service promised. If a restaurant promises an enjoyable meal, and you didn't enjoy it, the customer may have a legitimate complaint.

    Hypothetical:

    I rent a car, signing a contract whereby I agree to pay a certain fee in exchange for the use of the agency's car.

    However, I soon discover the air conditioning doesn't work, the tires are bald, the radio's broken, and the engine keeps breaking down.

    I could probably argue with some validity that I'm not obligated to pay for the services rendered despite having signed a contract.

    On the other hand, how valid would the same argument be if the only problem was the dome light was burnt out?

    If you go to a movie and find it not at all entertaining, complain to the management and ask for your money back. You have every right to do so. But is the theatre obligated to refund it?

  55. That STILL defeats the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why should some paranoid filmmakers be allowed to dictate their terms to the rest of the world? Should I be required to sign an NDA before I watch TV, wipe my ass, mow the lawn, drive a car? Sure, people tape TV shows, occasionally people leave the toilet unflushed, there are horribly overgrown lawns, and people drive cars drunk. But the point is, bad things happen there, and no one proposes being the Soup Nazi of those activities to keep trouble to a minimum. Geez, what kind of jerks run Hollywood anyways? (Jack Valenti, Private Dick-wad)

  56. Re:Hardware Decoders... by SheldonYoung · · Score: 5

    Unless DVD decoders get very cheap ($5-10) it's better to use the CPU to do it. For several reasons:

    1- Take that $50 you'll spend on a decoder and put it towards a faster CPU. It'll not only let you do DVD with less of a strain on the system, it'll speed up everything else.

    2- Software decoders can be free.

    3- Software decoders can be upgraded.

    4- Software decoders can be portable across platforms.

    5- Hardware takes up space, even a single chip is precious in the land of tiny laptops.

    The only reason hardware decoders exist now is because CPU's weren't *quite* able to keep up. Now they are.

    Some things need to have special-purpose hardware, like 3D video cards. DVDs do not. The frame rate won't ever need to increase. The resolution will stay the same.



  57. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    12. Visio 13. Half-Life 14. 30,000 other games 15. Shockwave 16. Internet Explorer 17. Microsoft Office 2000 (nothing like it on Linux)

  58. Problem with GetASF by gregstoll · · Score: 1

    I followed the instructions in the HOWTO and got to the tstdvd step, but when I run it, it tells me: GetASF failed N/A, invalidating: Invalid argument N/A, invalidating: Invalid argument N/A, invalidating: Invalid argument Request AGID[1]... Request AGID[2]... Request AGID[3]... Cannot get AGID Is anyone else having this problem, and if so, found a way around it?

    1. Re:Problem with GetASF by gregstoll · · Score: 1

      Nevermind - using the other patch fixed it...

    2. Re:Problem with GetASF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am basically getting the same problem.. even though I used the right patch... not Authenticated N/A, invalidating: Input/output error Request AGID [1]... Request AGID [2]... AGID 3 Host sending challenge: 09 08 07 06 05 04 03 02 01 00 Send challenge to LU failed If anyone knows a solution... please post it here.

    3. Re:Problem with GetASF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am also having problems. I used the kernel patch from http://www.kernel.dk/

      I am unable to perform a disc authorization using the CSS tool at http://www.eyrie.demon.co.uk/derek/dvd/css. I get output such as this:

      #tstdvd /dev/dvdrom
      not Authenticated
      Request AGID [1]... AGID 3
      Host sending challenge: 09 08 07 06 05 04 03 02 01 00
      Send challenge to LU failed

      dvdinfo reports this:
      not Authenticated
      Layer 0[1]
      Book Version: 1
      Book Type: 0
      Min Rate: 2
      Disk Size: 0
      Layer Type: 1
      Track Path: 0
      Num Layers: 0
      Track Density: 0
      Linear Density: 0
      BCA: 0
      Start Sector 0
      End Sector 0x89
      End Sector L0 0
      Copyright: CPST=1, RMI=0xfe

      The drive is a first-gen Toshiba ATAPI. If anyone has any insight into this it would be greatly appreciated!

  59. I read about it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

    I just read how DTCP works... Potentially hazardous, except one thing. If the CA private key is compromised to a small group of people before a new CA key can be distributed, the the entire system would be lost to that group of people if they found means to transmit a new CA public key to the rest of the boxen. At that point every box would be at the hands of people of unknown intent, who might redesign the system or (worse) destroy the entire sysem by contaminating it with massive "Certificate Revocations". Immediately at that point, millions of lawsuits would force the manufacturers to repair the damage, would force the DTLA out of business, and inevitably destroy any future chance for "Content Protection" systems to be developed and implemented due to the incredible consumer outrage and economic disaster for the technology companies employing it. This will forever be a danger of a CA system, which is only secure for the limited time it takes to break the CA key. When the CA key size is takes small enough time to break before a new CA key is issued.. Trouble.

  60. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 1
    That's life? That's life? You're answer to putting an industry out of business is "That's life"? Yeah, that's really good. What a wonderfully dillusional world you must live in, where everything revolves around you.
    Our species is responsible for the death of a third of the genetic diversity on this planet. I don't think putting the movie industry out of business will really change any life.
    Grow up. You can't have everything for free. There are time when payment is due - people work hard and deserve to be compensated for their time.
    Precisely my point, my dear boy, precisely my point. Except I would apply it to the producers of overpriced movies.
  61. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    if you expect great food at the prices you are paying at McDonalds you really are a *cheap* ass.

    I understand that in America, McDonald's is considered inexpensive. Here (Taiwan) it's one of the most expensive places to eat. A meal at McDonald's would set me back the equivalent of 3 or 4 US dollars. I can get a better meal at a local restaurant for half that price.

    Heck, for just a little more than the price of McD's I can get a full steak dinner.

    So yes, for the prices I'm paying at McDonald's I do expect great food.

  62. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Burnon · · Score: 1

    "If I buy a license to get a movie, I should not have to pay until after I have seen the movie. Entertainment is not guaranteed, so why should my money be guaranteed?"

    I would think because the terms of the contract offered to you permit no other interpretation, should you choose to accept those terms. If you would like to pay after seeing the movie, you have the freedom to negotiate with the service provider for such a contract. The service provider has the right to reject your terms, and may not take money from you illegally.

  63. Hey, we're just trying to view purchaced movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4

    It is wrong that the movie industry was preventing me from playing my copy of a movie how/where I wanted to.

    I wish the record/movie industry would learn.
    COPY PROTECTION IS ONLY ANNOYING.

    Dual cassette recorders didn't kill music.
    Two VCR's didn't kill movies.
    MP3's won't kill CD's(yet).

    Though all these probably do serve to keep the industry more honest in pricing.

    And BTW, I do have unencrypted DVD's. I'm not copying those or posting them on the web either.
    There's more issuses that prevent this:
    Download/upload time, HD space
    Honesty

  64. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 1
    Hey, you're the one that gave the same "that's life" defense in regards to paying $20 for a CD.

    Either way, it's a threadbare argument. I'll continue downloading MP3s and VCDs though, if you don't mind. Or even if you do mind. I don't particularly care. That's life too, isn't it?

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  65. Re:DVD in Linux by Mawbid · · Score: 1
    What exactly would be needed to a) make unencrypted dvd's and b) make encrypted dvd's? Isn't a) achievable without god's help?

    Anyway, what I really want is a realtime mpeg1/2 encoding solution that works in linux so that I can make my own TiVo-type thing.
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  66. Re:HDTV DVDs - The next problem in 4~6 years... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, this could be a problem.

    These new 30-200 Gig UV discs could likely replace
    DVD's.

    And after seeing how DVD's were cracked, they could get really crazy with encryption.

    But, Linux may be "the" OS by then, and who knows,
    open software may even be popular.

    Of course if there are software viewer, it can eventually be cracked.

    And while you are waiting, you could just buy cheap used DVD's. Just think how many movies you could fit on a UV disc.

  67. Beta DVD Player Software by Apollo · · Score: 1
    Actually, this is more an issue of Apple releasing beta DVD software than it is of hardware performance. DVD Player 2.0b2 ships with iMac DV models, and its lack of optimization shows when it drops syncronization after about 20 minutes. Apple has said that it will post a final release shortly to solve the sync problem. The G3/400 itself is able to play DVDs via software decoding without any problems, but only if nearly all system resources are used.

    For those Mac users with hardware decoders, I believe DVD Player 2.0 will not be supported. Instead, Apple has released version 1.3 with Mac OS 9, which performs just as well, if not better, than 2.0 final will on the iMac DV's.

  68. Moore's law will popularize DVD by Nailer · · Score: 1

    Specialist hardware will always outperform software, however, inevitably this ends up being negligible.

    When ultra-low quality MPEG movies first came to PC in the earlky days of 486. Hardware decoders were mandatory. Thanks to Moore's law, these days the same movies can be played nowadays with CPU usage below five percent.

    Ultimately this will likely be of benefit to DVD - CPU speeds increase and come down in price, vendors don't have to worry about added prices for hardware decoders, CD-ROM / DVD-ROM price difference is small. The bar to entry is lowered, and the Rest of us can enjoy the technology.

    If MP3's still took up forty-five percent of your CPU-usage, they wouldn't have the popularity [or controversy] that surrounds them today either.

    Ironically, Moore's law also popularisez media in another way. Encryption schemes such as the DVD zone information are inevitable cracked and wholesale ignored by the general public, as a long-forgotten nuisance.

  69. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Burnon · · Score: 1

    If you want to pay 2 dollars, you have the freedom to attempt to negotiate that price. The theatre owner also has the right to reject your price and offer you another. Capitalism works, and it protects the consumer by providing choice. Anarchy (i.e., indiscriminate theft) works against all, and the average consumer in particular.

  70. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Trade secrets DO have some protection, however it is far out of the scope of what happened here. The trade secret protection protects from a direct leak (someone entrusted with the information divulging it to a third party). This is the case of someone disassembling a widely availible product to discover how it works (a protected activity, as revealed by the SEGA case) and re-implementing it to the extent it needs to be for interoperability. The courts have ruled on this kind of activity in favor of it. However, you are 100% correct about the Dolby Digital element. It would be necessary to provide a non-free audio decoder to play back the audio on discs using that encoding. I would propose the option of (A) routing such output to the S/PDIF output on a sound card to be diverted to an external decoder or (B) providing the means to play back uncompressed audio as some discs allow. The possibility (but not probability) exists of a license with Dolby for the distribution of the decoder in binary form ("non-free") or else a license for (the far less likely) playback code for Dolby Digital to be released in source code form under an open source license. I really don't know what the future could hold, but since Warner and Disney probably pay Dolby Bill Gates' Ransom in licensing every year, I doubt they're gonna budge on something that the studios balk at. Just an AC's $.02

  71. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 1
    You know, we haven't really looked at the issue of practicality. If we did, then the moral arguments are largely irrelevent. :)

    In terms of contract negotiation, I have the ace in that I can copy the movie with no degradation of the product. The morality of employing that ace is not in question. The reality is that I have it, and without guarantee of service, I can readily employ it. Thus those with whom I negotiate are in a position where they might want to negotiate, whereas before they could remain steadfast without fear of any sort of reprisal.

  72. Re:DVD = Damned Video Decoding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    > The Matrix DVD isn't buggy, rather the players > themselves arn't up to spec

    This is untrue. It is a plain and simple fact that the Matrix is incorrectly authored - it does not comply to the DVD-Video specification.

    The reason different players work differently (or not at all) is simply because they are different! Depending on the memory representations of the DVD's data structures that a player uses, the amount it verifies that the data on the DVD conforms to spec and the amount of work done by the player to work around broken discs such as the Matrix are what make the players behave differently.

    After all - just look at HTML. One single broken HTML page will display differently in different browsers - this isn't because the browsers are broken, but just because they react differently to the broken HTML. (The fact that they also react differently to non-broken HTML is beside the point here:-) This principle is exactly the same with broken DVDs such as The Matrix.

    P.S. I work for a DVD player company. Our players didn't always play The Matrix quite right, so we had to put hacks into our code to work around the DVD authoring bugs.

    A colleague of mine once attended a DVD show where the CEO/similar of the authoring house in question was saying how amazing they were and how they tested with every player known to man. It's pretty obvious he's full of sh*t - just look at all the problems The Matrix has! He didn't get quite such a good reception at a recent conference he talked at after this fiasco!

  73. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    when the cost of the CD takes a large percentage of my money for a low prospective entertainment value

    The obvious recourse is go elsewhere for your entertainment.

    Your argument sounds to me like, "since I can't have your service at the price I want to pay, I'm going to take it anyway an not pay anything for it."

    What's to stop me, with that kind of logic, from deciding that every entertainment I want is overpriced?

  74. AC3 Bitstream is buggy by Baggio · · Score: 1

    Actually WB admitted that there is a flaw in the AC3 bitstream at some points in the movie that do cause a sound drop on some systems. The Hollywood Plus drivers had some problems with this at first, but the latest drivers correct this flaw. Other players still have a problem with this stream.
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  75. Re:Hardware Decoders... by Shadow+Knight · · Score: 2

    You are leaving out several important things. By far the most important is this: ultra-high quality SVideo out! Yeah, yeah, your TNT2 Ultra can do that, right? NO! Not the resolution and quality of a hardware decoder card, which is just a consumer DVD player-on-a-card. Another thing: AC-3 out, so I can use my $500 receiver for that instead of an unshielded sound card (eg, SBLive!). Another thing: software decoding would kill my distributed.net keyrate! Or kill the compile I might be wanting to do at the same time I watch a movie. The reason I bought a DVD drive was because at the time, a drive+decoder was $100s cheaper than a commercial player, I didn't buy it to watch movies on my computer!

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  76. Re:DVD = Damned Video Decoding by Duds · · Score: 1

    Actually I've been playing my VCD mpeg Matrix under KDE for some months. The moral being that there is always a way round things. Actually being able to do this from DVD will be great though.

  77. Oxford explains it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The Linux crowd is always late to the show.
    And this time it has lost its innocence, too.
    Reverse enginnering a Windows DVD player may
    be legal, but it shows what the "next"
    development model for "some things" will
    look like.

    I hope xfree4 will speed up video, else
    you will have jerky and skipping AC3 audio,
    unless I'm stupid (or my p2-450 too slow).

    1. Re:Oxford explains it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I ment jerky _video_ and skipping audio of course (because of lack of CPU time)

    2. Re:Oxford explains it by hadron · · Score: 1
      Well, if the people pushing DVD weren't such jerks, refusing to co-operate, we wouldn't have been forced into doing this.

      Remember, this isn't about piracy, this is about watching DVDs!

    3. Re:Oxford explains it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, fell free to moderate me for it, but Linux is behind in everything. I have to goand spend money on a new HDD for the easy way to get Linux (1024 cyl), cant use an ATA66 HD without patching the kernel, Sound never worked on my old PC for me without OSS. my P2450 in windows does DVD beatufully. I dont have linux on this PC to test it, but...

    4. Re:Oxford explains it by nufan · · Score: 1

      In the win32 world NDA's are signed and software is developed with full specs, with the help of the hardware manufacturers themselves. Often not so in the world of free software. Linux may be "behind" in certain areas but how you could possibly expect it to be ahead? It is free software and often developed completely without the help of hardware manufacturers.

    5. Re:Oxford explains it by astral · · Score: 1

      yes, your 450 is too slow. the test machine ran at that speed. an oc'ed celeron at 540 worked remarkably better. (and if you're curious, i was
      around for most of icefox's experimentation.)

      its not that the linux crowd is 'late', it is that we arent given the opportunity to take advantage of the information.

  78. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry that you're sick of hearing that "theft" of digital media is completely different than physical theft, because you're going to be hearing it a lot more in the future.

    People, intellectual "property" is, at best, an interesting concept. Don't take it for granted. It is not a right. It is a legal fiction we have come up with, originally with the purpose of promoting creative works.

    I think the concept of IP has lost its usefulness. We need to slowly start decimating the whole idea. You already see this happening with free software and to a certain extent, music. Hopefully one day the human race will look back on the era of IP as an interesting, but brief phase of their history. You are already seeing immense, bloated legal structures being erected to try to deal with the paradoxes inherent in viewing IP as a natural right. From lawsuits when people merely _link_ to copyrighted content on the web, to lobbyists promoting IP protection for databases, we can hope that whole system will eventually collapse under its own weight.

    Now I'm under no illusions that this will happen quickly, or easily. After all, our economic structures have been built on these ideas for hundreds of years. The Disneys and Microsofts of the world have a foundation of IP. So it won't be easy, and will probably take 100-200 years before we're rid of the concept altogether. But still, we have to start somewhere.

    To those who argue that a world without IP "won't work", use your imagination. We have already seen that if all software was free software, programmers would still get paid. I'm sure we will realize that arts will still be paid for without IP as well. Don't assume that our current society is the only "natural" one. Look at the history of the human race, then think of the next 10,000 years.

  79. Not so. by Squeeze+Truck · · Score: 2

    The filmmaker need not entertain me to get my money. He just needs to make the movie appear entertaining enough in a 30 second TV spot to get me to pay for the ticket. Before I see ANY movie anymore, I watch the first 5-10 minutes from an .ASF off IRC. Some movies have been good enough that I paid the money to see them in the theatre (Thomas Crowne, Mystery Men). The rest is, frankly, crap.

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  80. Pioneer 10x are hardware region locked by ahornby · · Score: 2

    The pioneer 114 and 104S 10x are currently region locked players. Unless a firmware patch of hidden jumper is discovered, the recommendation is to stick with the older 6x model. See http://www.dvdutils.com/

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  81. Re:Probably illegal what these kids are doing by superlame · · Score: 2

    Uhm, usually the patents only apply to encryption, not decryption. In the case of MP3 (which is relevent here because MP3 is part of the mpeg 2 standard, which DVDs use), despite some initial threats from Fraunhoffer and Thompson, there wasn't anything they could do to people writing the decoding software, since their patents had to do with the psycho accoustic models used for compression, and de-compression didn't need to know anything about those models. To my understanding, decode/decryption/decompresion only is interfered with by patents when there is only one algorithm to decode something, and that algorithm is covered by the patent. However, in many (if not most) cases, there are multiple ways to decode things.

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  82. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 1

    In 4 years I get to watch Disney's Steamboat Willy. lol.

  83. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Squeeze+Truck · · Score: 1
    Ah, but the capitalist does not use money as a medium of exchange, but rather the commodity. You & I use money to trade corn for iron or some such thing. The capitalist uses the iron (or film, or whatever) as the intermediary to trade money for more money, the money being the end desired.


    Thus the function of the capitalist (or filmmaker) is only to siphon cash out of circulation.


    Capital by Karl Marx. Read it.

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  84. You're making the same mistake. by Convergence · · Score: 5

    When will people realize that JUST because its always been done that way in the past means it CANNOT BE DONE DIFFERENTLY IN THE FUTURE.

    The telephone obsoleted the telegraph. Many people lost their jobs, many telegraph companies lost their only source of money. Do we still lament their passing?

    JUST BECAUSE the current distribution methods of media won't give the CURRENT POWERS their money in the future. doesn't mean that there won't be alternatives in the future.

    So what if the era 100-million-dollar movie ends? So what if the era of MGM or Paramount or Disney as film companies ends? So what if the era of the railroads ended? So what if the era of the Telegraph ended? As long as there is demand, there will be a replacement. Its safe to say that there will always be a demand for entertainment.

    ``I propose that to save the critically important telegraph industry we must make it illegal to transmit voice electronically over any wire.''

    Or how about:

    ``I propose that to save the critically important post office, we must make it illegal to transmit any message electronically over a wire domestically.''

    ``I propose that we immediately discount that new foolish idea that some legistlators are proposing, called 'copyright', as it will let tyrannical authors prevent bookmakers from making books.''

    Or, what was that one about british candlemakers protesting about how the Sun was screwing up their business?

    The future is different from the past, just because its the past doesn't make it better, doesn't make it the only way that works.

    1. Re:You're making the same mistake. by kaphka · · Score: 2
      When will people realize that JUST because its always been done that way in the past means it CANNOT BE DONE DIFFERENTLY IN THE FUTURE.
      In the future, movies will still cost money to make. Maybe not as much as they cost today, but undoubtedly a hefty chunk of cash nonetheless.

      That's the difference between "free movies" and Free Software, which I know is what most of you guys have in the back of your mind right now. Free software can be made for free (on donated time.) And it can even be profitable, if you sell services associated with your software, or maybe printed manuals.

      But you have to put money in to get a movie out, and that money has to come from somewhere. And you can't really use them as a loss-leader, anyway. (Well, George Lucas could probably have given away The Phantom Menace for free and subsisted on the merchandising money, but that's an unusual situation. Besides, do we want our movies to literally be two hour long commercials?)

      I understand the general animosity towards restricted IP on /., but I'm just trying to point out that movies are different. They're not just ideas, they're massive investments.
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    2. Re:You're making the same mistake. by Convergence · · Score: 1

      Again, you're still making the same mistake.. So what if the era of the 100-million movie ends.

      The movie industry has already gone through many era's, the silent movie, the musical movie.. Do you curse and scream at their passing, or do you realize that they are the past, history, obsolete, and enjoy the product of later era's?

      Maybe in 20 year's we'll have weak copyright laws and movies will all be $500,000 to make so that they make profit on them. Maybe things will equalize at some other price-profit point.

      AS LONG AS THERE IS A DEMAND, MONEY CAN BE MADE.

      (and IMO, just because the time is donated doesn't mean its free, it means that people donated it.)

    3. Re:You're making the same mistake. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      When anti-competitive trends threaten business, the government usually makes a ruling based on a free market with legal competition.

      "Intellectual Property" may be desirable; it may be a good thing; it may even be necessary.

      But one thing it is not is anything having to do with a free market.

      In a free market, I buy a movie on DVD, and I am free to do whatever I want with it, whether that be to watch it, crush it, or duplicate it.

      I'm not sure what the current state of affairs is, but I am quite certain that it is not a "free market."

    4. Re:You're making the same mistake. by Burnon · · Score: 1

      Maybe. If the market demands the end of the big movie, great. I don't think anyone will argue that point.

      If the market moves that way fairly, then it makes sense. But I'd be surprised if the market moves that way due to theft or "copyright infringement". When anti-competitive trends threaten business, the government usually makes a ruling based on a free market with legal competition. I believe this to be a good thing - do you?

      Theft is not ethical, even though it is possible.

  85. Re:Lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And yet hear you go whining about author's bogus entitlements to payment for their "intellectual property"...

  86. Re:Nodody *needs* red pumps by Money__ · · Score: 1
    And we all need entertainment.

    This is where the foundation of your argument starts to woble a bit. Nobody needs entertainment. I'm sorry if this comes as a shock, but you don't.

    My Girlfriend wanted to go shopping this past weekend, saying she needed some red pumps. It's imporant to clarify, red pumps are not a need, they are a want. She wanted the latest design from the best designer, she needed a stylish and functional pair of shoes. Are these the same things? Not at all, and it's important to clarify the differance.

  87. recomendation to the industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    My recomendation to the industry if they don't want everything to go out in the open real quick would be to get some software decoder out for linux for FREE real real fast. Otherwise it will be cracked [soon] and with the big drives (200GB anyone) coming real quick there is no issue to talk about.

    my 2cents

  88. Re:Remember the GUS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember the GUS. In fact. I've got one in my computer right now. Its a GUS-MAX, and it plays MP3s much nicer than my SB16. The codec is much better than the crappy one on the SB. The output is much crisper, and the bass is deeper. Plus, its a full length, RED isa card!!!! :)

  89. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Copying digital media is not theft. Copying digital media is not theft. Say it a hundred times until you get it right. (You've already said it was theft about a hundred time in this forum).

  90. Probably illegal what these kids are doing by heroine · · Score: 1

    Well as far as we know the AC3 and MPEG-2 codecs contain zillions of patents. Eventually someone from Fraunhoffer or Thompson is going to get up in the morning wanting more money and he's going to take down all our DVD projects. I don't believe DVD decoding is a CS major's cup of tea just like operating system selection isn't an EE's cup of tea. That why we don't see any of it. The problem is getting the EEs who are interested in multimedia to get interested in the operating system they use and getting the CS majors who are interested in the operating system to get interested in multimedia. There's a constant rift there.

    1. Re:Probably illegal what these kids are doing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The DVD encyption stuff was never patented to begin with, so that isn't a problem.

      Watching DVDs involves MPEG decryption, which is a whole other story and isn't unique to DVDs in the first place.
      I would assume that any MPEG projects can just be done in Sweden or somewhere else where these patents are not recognized as valid.

    2. Re:Probably illegal what these kids are doing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Uhm, usually the patents only apply to encryption, not decryption.

      No, not at all. The MPEG LA claims that the 40+ patents they have cover compression, decompression *and* the MPEG-2 streams themselves. You have to pay clear-cut royalties, see www.mpegla.com

      espite some initial threats from Fraunhoffer and Thompson, there wasn't anything they could do to people writing the decoding software, since their patents had to do with the psycho accoustic models used for compression, and de-compression didn't need to know anything about those models.

      Maybe their patents did not cover decompression, or maybe they didn't want to kill all their business. Forbidding free MP3 decoders would have instantly killed MP3.

      To my understanding, decode/decryption/decompresion only is interfered with by patents when there is only one algorithm to decode something, and that algorithm is covered by the patent. However, in many (if not most) cases, there are multiple ways to decode things

      Usually there is only one way to decode and many to encode.

  91. HDTV DVDs - The next problem in 4~6 years... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

    In a few years, aren't DVDs & players going to be replaced by HDTV versions of the same thing?

    If so, what's keeping the them from working out a scheme that's exponentially more difficult to break?

    If I'm missing something, let me know...

    1. Re:HDTV DVDs - The next problem in 4~6 years... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If so, what's keeping the them from working out a scheme that's exponentially more difficult to break?
      stupidity and ignorance most likely. the undying belief that security through obscurity works, even in the face of countless failures, including CSS. they'll think about it, they'll investigate the possibilities and they'll conclude that a good scheme costs too much and that this time it'll really stay secret.

  92. If people could make and publish their own movies by Rares+Marian · · Score: 1

    And not have to pass through a million or so filters to get published, mp3 pirating and movie pirating would either disappear or better become a medium for people to get new ideas and possibly be swallowed up in an open media movement.

    So what happens when someone can see the effects of purely going after supply and demand. Somewhere it gets to be a pointless transfer of money. People want automation of purchases. Then they automate their process of choosing products. Next we will be automating our enjoyment. And intentionally or unintentionally the flow of money at any moment in time gets to be so high it excludes larger and larger groups of people, which is ridiculous in our age beccause money just goes in circles. Value is something very vague these days. Otherwise you wouldn't see things like domain name squatting.

    Frankly, I think it's time some of these companies got used to the idea of change. It isn't so difficult to adapt to a world of piracy and make billions using the piracy vehicle as free advertising. Some companies already do this.

    (Okay maybe I just want television stations to die, but supply and demand demands a very large supply of ignorant unconscious organic machines. Some of us feel we're being forced out of the fucking loop.)

    Personally, if I have to have a lawyer tell me why something is valuable to me-- other than those things which protect what I already consider valuable-- than I have to say that item is probably not really valuable to me in the first place. Sorry but no lawyer is using me as a get rich quick scheme.

    "Computers should be ... tools... (siglim 120 chars)" Like cars... to the office no more no less.

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  93. Re:FreeBSD by IceFox · · Score: 1

    recompile

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  94. i would by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i've got 100's of movies here, i download them all the time, and there are 1000's of people that do too, it's alot cheaper to spend $1 on 2cdr's and burn them in vcd format and buy a dvd player that supports vcd's and play them on that than to go watch at a theater or rent/buy them

  95. Doublespeak, by Convergence · · Score: 1

    BTW, have you noticed that the way they get people to talk about these issues is fascinatingly doublespeak.

    Freedom is Slavery, Duplication is Theft, Words are Property.

    Tell me this isn't EXACTLY the meaning of what you're saying?

    You are literally calling ``duplication'' ``theft'', ``words'' ``property''.

    Do you know when you will be calling ``freedom'' as ``slavery''?

    Perhaps because being free makes you a slave, unable to access any of the modern world's (life+70year copyright term) modern data. You would be a slave to the past where such notions as ``freedom to think'' are considered good.

  96. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Zico · · Score: 1

    In reality, how does someone know that they've made a horrible movie when they rake in the money. I don't know.

    They know it because they see a huge dropoff in sales after the opening weekend. They know it because their video rental sales stink. And you might not believe it, but the people who make expensive movies that show those characteristics get dealt with very harshly in the industry these days, no matter how much the movie was hyped or how well it did in the first weekend.

    Cheers,
    ZicoKnows@hotmail.com

  97. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Burnon · · Score: 1

    Absolutely. Let's stick to Moral arguments, or at least to Ethics.

    Your proposed bargaining position is akin to that of a ransomer. Whether you choose to ransom people, goods, or IP is irrelevant. Ethically, you are not bargaining from a position of good faith. Certainly, from a practical perspective, an anonymous ransomer has a strong position, but certainly the position is not ethical.

  98. Re:What a loser by debrain · · Score: 1
    offtopic warning :)
    Translation: "I don't have a lot of money, don't expect to ever have a lot of money, and feel a deep resentment at people who do, and who thus expose my deep feelings of avarice and inadequacy."
    How do you suppose that? You have no gauge of my financial situation, and if you want to kid yourself that someone who sticks up for poor people must themselves be poor, you're quite distraught. My reasons for defending the rights of individuals is that I've worked with the Red Cross and Amnesty International, refugees of Yugoslavia and Kosovo and Ukraine and Nigeria, and have come to the conclusion that centralizing perpetual greed fundamentally wrongs people.

    I grew up in a poor town in the poorest province in Canada (Newfoundland), and have spent my whole life dealing with people who are unable to defend their rights against capitalism and centralized governments. My father was a doctor, and I grew up being one of the select few well off in the community from which I came.

    My monetary stability is quite secure, and I'm quite certain that it'll get even better with age and experience, but that does not change my arguments. They are universal, attacking a problem. You have attacked me, obviously without knowing anything true, based on assumptions, leading me to believe that you are a genuine asshole.

  99. Re:DVD = Damned Video Decoding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Must have 16-bit color (no more no less). then run mpegplayer2 -vob -f filename on the decoded file...

  100. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by treke · · Score: 1

    The ext2 files system has this limit, not Linux. I believe DVD disks have their own format that is used on the disk.
    treke

  101. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > Capital by Karl Marx. Read it. Good book. Animal Farm by George Orwell. Better book. Read it.

  102. Re:Anyone else getting no output from css-cat?? by gregstoll · · Score: 1

    That happened to me - fixed it by using the -v flag...

  103. Re:To repeat again. The doublespeak quote: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Duplication is theft? Maybe I'm just not sure what you're talking about, but I don't think that line was in 1984.

  104. Re:HAHAHAHA Why AC is cool by NovaX · · Score: 1

    hehe... back to a 1.. where it should have been (not worth karma gaining or losing karma). Thanks to whoever fixed that. :-)

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  105. Doesn't work with 2.2.12 and the ata66 patch... by smash_phase · · Score: 1

    :-(, tried it first with 2.2.13 standard kernel and it validates (but my hd will run in PIO mode and very slow..) Tried with the 2.2.12 and the Hedrick ata66 patch, results in the error: 'GETASF failed' 'invalidating: Invalid argument' 'can not get AGID'... Anyone an idea or kernel patch for 2.2.12 or 13?

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    1. Re:Doesn't work with 2.2.12 and the ata66 patch... by axboe · · Score: 1

      Andre Hedrick included a somewhat mangled patch
      in his IDE patch set. Get a patch for 2.2.13
      at my page: http://www.kernel.dk

    2. Re:Doesn't work with 2.2.12 and the ata66 patch... by smash_phase · · Score: 1

      Okay, just to be clear, I spoke with Jens Axboe about it, but this thing still won't work with Andre Hedrick's ata66 patches... I emailed Andre also about it, but I think they are both to busy with 2.4 or something, to fix it...

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  106. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by TummyX · · Score: 1


    Componentisation with ActiveX and COM? So they are the end-all, be-all of component technology, using something else is not an option?

    You always have an option, but the default the standard is set, and it's COM....since COM is language neutral (can use C/++, Java, VB, Delphi etc) it's also very much part of windows now. That way many APIs can easily be accessed thru dual interface COM objects - making it very easy to do thru VB and Java (Look at DirectX).
    I prefer Visual Studio to other IDEs for one reason - the editor. It has HUGE advantages over text based ones - intellisense. It's so useful I refuse to use any other IDE now :)...hate having to switch to and from documentation to figure out simply the method names!
    The addition of inteliisense to VC++ 6 is what led me to C++ over VB, then the arrival of VJ++ 6 with intellisense shortly after led me from VC++ to VJ++ :).


    And IMHO registries are needed. Not just for the massive GUID registries in need today for COM/CORBA - but it's a standard fast mechanism for storage of information. I'm betting that in the future as windows COMponentises even more - there will be object store registries - where you can serialize objects into the registry....it's all about a standard way (for windows apps) to store information - and it's all indexed etc etc...just like storing a database the way Oracle does it - or in a text file.

  107. Re:VideoCD player for Linux by znark · · Score: 1
    We need to come up with a good GPLed VCD player (I can't find any, you know of one?
    I'd hack the SDLmpeg code myself to do this, if I knew something about the VCD format :-) After all, it's all in the headers, right? MpegTV (an evil capitalist piece of proprietary chicken poo) does this just by parsing the headers and separating the audio/video stream, IIRC.

    You would also need to support still images, menus, remote control functions, playlists, CD-DA tracks & other Video CD 2.0 (White Book) features. VCD is not just about MPEG files.

  108. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Foogle · · Score: 1
    Good logic. What exactly are movie-makers expecting to get for free? Your money? Hardly. They spend enormous amounts of their own money in the production of those films. Sometimes it pays off (Titanic) and sometimes it doesn't (Waterworld). But because they're trying to maxmize their own profits, you think they're being greedy.

    Well fine, maybe they are being greedy, but to be honest, the market doesn't agree with you. They're obviously not charging more than most people are willing to spend, or they wouldn't be making sales -- that's the beauty of a free market; it maintains itself as long as there's not a monopoly. And there's no monopoly on movie production, either; Indy films get funding all the time from private and personal investors.

    How many times do I have to say it: If you don't like what they're charging then vote with your feet. Watch a different movie. Watch paint dry. Don't watch anything at all. I don't care - but just because you think the industry is overpriced does not give you warrant to violate their rights.

    I'm done repeating myself. Pirate movies if you want to. Be a thief. Convince yourself it's justifiable. People like you make me sick.


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  109. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Burnon · · Score: 1

    But ethically! Isn't that it's own reward? :)

  110. Re:Nodody *needs* red pumps by CrayDrygu · · Score: 1
    Nobody needs entertainment. I'm sorry if this comes as a shock, but you don't.

    That has to be the least truthful thing I've heard in quite some time.

    We all need entertainment. We may not need it in the form of multi-million dollar movies or overpriced CDs, but everybody needs some things in their life to distract them from the daily grind. Plays, poetry, concerts, operas, board games, Bingo night, or playing Quake with Rob Zombie's latest blasting out your eardrums... whatever you choose, you need something in your life to entertain you, or you'll go crazy.

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  111. Re:Nodody *needs* red pumps by CrayDrygu · · Score: 2
    I would put forth that you've allowled your feeling to WANT to be entertained to overwelm you. I've got a news flash, you won't go nuts of you don't have Q3 arena, You won't go crazy is you don't have the absolute latest and greatest thing.

    I would put forth that any psychologist worth their weight would disagree with you.

    Food, shelter, and clothing are physical necessities, though depending on the climate and such clothing may not rank as highly. However, you have emotional needs which go above and beyond that. Everybody, for example, needs to feel loved. Do you die if you don't feel loved? Of course not. But you don't develop healthily (or, if you prefer, normally) if that's the case. The same with entertainment. I'm sure you've heard the phrase "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy." You're right, you *don't* need Q3Arena. You can just as easily get by with a deck of cards, or socializing with friends. But if you never take some time to yourself, to do things that you enjoy doing... then, well, something's wrong.

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  112. Linux DVD patch confusion by axboe · · Score: 5
    After having read the many comments here, it's apparent that there is some confusion with regards to what patch you need for what kernel and what type of drives it works on. Let me attempt to clarify that a bit.

    The original DVD patch was done by Andrew T. Veliath and this is the patch linked on the HOWTO page. While it only worked on ATAPI drives, his interface and structure was good and I decided to integrate this in the standard Linux kernel but in a bus independent way. Current 2.3 kernels contain this code and it works equally well on ATAPI as well as SCSI drives (which is an important point, IMO).

    In summary, if you are running a recent 2.3 kernel you are all set and there is no need to patch your kernel. If you are on a 2.2 kernel, get the patch from my page to get support for both ATAPI and SCSI drives.

    http://www.kernel.dk

  113. Re:Why would you want to? by Compuser · · Score: 1

    Couldn't you fool an OS into thinking
    that a DVD partition is a DVD hardware
    device? This is possible for CDs,
    so why not for DVDs. Granted, your OS
    would have to be able to support up to
    17 Gb per file, but you could then do
    a bit/bit copy and avoid those stupid
    decoded rips. What am I missing?

  114. Re:Nodody *needs* red pumps by Money__ · · Score: 1
    Thank you for clarifying this for everyone. :)

    I agree totaly with your previous post.

  115. Re:DVD = Damned Video Decoding by Rolozo · · Score: 1

    I saw this behavior with The Terminator, but then I went to www.kernel.dk and applied the patch supplied there, and now I see video. I haven't been able to get audio yet (with or without video). mpeg2audio reports "unknown layer identifier found!" so I won't chalk up the problem to system limitations yet (dual P3/450). But everything looks promising. High fives to the developers.

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  116. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Musc · · Score: 1

    Industries to not have a right to exist. If they can only exist through extortion, they should not exist at all.

    I think art existed before intellectual property laws.

    Motivation for creating content is not as important as my freedom to use a cd burner in the privacy of my home. It is exactly the same as child sex and recreational drugs. The part about motivation and payment is completely irrelevant.

    WHat legal ground is there for copyright infringement? This isn't about law, i know copyright law does indeed exist. The issue is morals. Copyright law is immoral. Nothing can take away my right to copy things freely, and nothing can force me to part with my money in exchange for a movie company to part with nothing.

    Lets see, I pay 5 bucks for the right to view a movie. I lose 5 dollars. What does the movie company lose? They still have their movie. They did not work harder so I could have it. I have given them something, they have kept everything. THat is extortion. Payment of course should not be optional for all cases, such as a physical product, or a service.
    You are quite foolish if you think you can have a guaranteed income when you sell a product for which payment is optional, as it is with all intellectual "property".

    Payment is optional because the producers don't give up anything. If you don't give me something, I shouldn't have to pay anything, even if I enjoy a benefit you created.

    The right for your preferred business model to be valid is NOT a given. The right to not submit to extortion, and basic freedom within my home is most certainly a given.

    --
    Hamsters are at least as feathery as penguins. HamLix
  117. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Money__ · · Score: 1
    You say we should just do without. How does this benefit anyone? How does my not seeing a movie help anyone more than if i choose to see it without paying? What's the difference?

    It's the contract of the offer that you're violating. Allow me to put forth one little example to make my point.

    Lets say I'm the Producer of "The Matrix" and I line up financing to make a great movie and I want to sell it. There are many ways to try and sell the movie.

    1) Stand on the street corner yelling "get your Matrix here".

    Your Price? $1.00

    2) Sell volume copies to video stores and take out some adds to create demand in those stores.

    Your Price? $3.00

    3) Sell copies to movie theaters and buy advertising to create demand in those theaters.

    Your Price? $6.00

    The decision for how I want to distro *my* movie is *my decision* not yours. It's an offer. It's a contract. It's speculation and risk managment that leads me to a decision for how to best recoup investment, and make some profit for the risk *I* am taking. If you like the offer, you pay what I demand. It's that simple.

    If I'm making a movie, and piracy has closed down distrobution chanels 2 and 3 (making them finacialy a higher risk), I'll be forced to stand on a street corner and sell the movie myself for a buck. This means that The Matrix would never get made.

    And another thing, many people are talking about how they need to see a movie and I find this quite laughable. Your demand is purchased. Your demand is payed for. Your demand is a fixed cost of distro channels 2 and 3. Like so many sheep to the sheerer.

  118. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Fizgig · · Score: 1

    95 years now. You'll be dead.

  119. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by Bryan_K · · Score: 1

    The registry is an absolutely horrible idea IMHO. Think about it, you have one huge file that stores almost all of your settings. If something should corrupt that file, you are pretty screwed. On the other hand, haveing a bunch of separate config files reduces the chances of this. Sure you may lose a few things, but the chances of everything dying are pretty slim.

  120. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Musc · · Score: 1

    People like you make me vomit, then shoot liquid brown foul smelling fluids out of a nether pore.

    You say we should just do without. How does this benefit anyone? How does my not seeing a movie help anyone more than if i choose to see it without paying? Whats the difference?

    --
    Hamsters are at least as feathery as penguins. HamLix
  121. Re:Hardware Decoders... by jeremy+f · · Score: 1

    Right, which is one of the main reasons I use my DXR. That and it also has either an AC3 output, which standard sound cards just don't have these days :)

  122. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    When I go to the theatre, I want to pay money to be entertained. I don't want to have to think and plan what movie I want to see.

    Nope. You'd rather spend your time "thinking and planning" which movies you're going to steal.

    The truth is you're just a lazy bastard who gets peeved when he actually has to put a little effort into his own entertainment.

    Do you apply the same logic to selecting a restaurant? "Hey, Mr. Chef! Feed me - and I'd damn well better like it!" Should I start refusing to pay for my Happy Meals just because McDonalds' french fries suck?

    When I say I don't have the time and energy to put into watching a bad movie, I mean I'd rather put my time and energy into something rewarding or satisfying.

    Tautology. Of course we all would rather put our time and energy into something rewarding or satisfying. Guess what? This usually requires a little "thinking and planning." Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

    But as was already pointed out this is a red herring. You waste time and energy watching a bad movie regardless of whether you paid for it or ripped it off.

    In any case, I'm willing to bet my last dime that you only pirate the movies you like. Which is to say, even by your logic, the ones you should have paid for.

    I pay for the big screen and popcorn and nice trailers and big theatre sound. That's what I pay for.

    Hey, genius. Have you noticed you don't get popcorn when you pirate a DVD? If you're really paying for the environment, not the movie, then you got what you paid for regardless of whether you personally found the movie "entertaining" and you have no grounds for complaint.

    And sometimes, it's nice to go to a movie.

    Fine. Then pay for it.

  123. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Burnon · · Score: 1

    Of course you'd be willing to copy a movie that you'd see only once. You're willing to eschew ethics in the absence of law enforcement. And of course, MP3's would be horribly off-topic! ;)

  124. Re:Project list by Xtacy · · Score: 2

    yup that's it, lets just leave the dvd/vcd/games to windows, so that way we never have to add any functionality to linux. What kind of mentality is that?

    Linux is striving to be a better OS. We have code freezes to get bugs worked out, but after that, more functionality enters. That is the beauty of this system. It is nowhere near reaching its limits and I don't think just buying another machine to run windows is a way to solve this problem.

    You mention that you have a linux router/dialup box. Hmm last I checked they have that for windows too, so why do you use linux for it? Stability perhaps?

    This is why I love linux, sure you might have to wait for some functionality, but once its there, it gets improved upon. If it has bugs they get fixed, not covered up. and yes, i have two machines, guess what, they both run linux, cuz it does what i want and will do what i need to later.

    Patience is a virtue

  125. css-cat.c by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    /* * css-cat.c * * Copyright 1999 Derek Fawcus. * * Released under version 2 of the GPL. * * Decode selected sector types from a CSS encoded DVD to stdout. Use as a * filter on the input to mpeg2player or ac3dec. * */ #include #include #if defined(__linux__) # include #endif /* __linux__ */ #include #include #include #include "css-descramble.h" static struct playkey pkey1a1 = {0x36b, {0x51,0x67,0x67,0xc5,0xe0}}; static struct playkey pkey2a1 = {0x762, {0x2c,0xb2,0xc1,0x09,0xee}}; static struct playkey pkey1b1 = {0x36b, {0x90,0xc1,0xd7,0x84,0x48}}; static struct playkey pkey1a2 = {0x2f3, {0x51,0x67,0x67,0xc5,0xe0}}; static struct playkey pkey2a2 = {0x730, {0x2c,0xb2,0xc1,0x09,0xee}}; static struct playkey pkey1b2 = {0x2f3, {0x90,0xc1,0xd7,0x84,0x48}}; static struct playkey pkey1a3 = {0x235, {0x51,0x67,0x67,0xc5,0xe0}}; static struct playkey pkey1b3 = {0x235, {0x90,0xc1,0xd7,0x84,0x48}}; static struct playkey pkey3a1 = {0x249, {0xb7,0x3f,0xd4,0xaa,0x14}}; /* DVD specific ? */ static struct playkey pkey4a1 = {0x028, {0x53,0xd4,0xf7,0xd9,0x8f}}; /* DVD specific ? */ static struct playkey *playkeys[] = { &pkey1a1, &pkey2a1, &pkey1b1, &pkey1a2, &pkey2a2, &pkey1b2, &pkey1a3, &pkey1b3, &pkey3a1, &pkey4a1, NULL}; static unsigned char disk_key[2048]; static unsigned char title_key[5]; static unsigned char sector[2048]; unsigned long sectors = 0; unsigned long crypted = 0; unsigned long skipped = 0; int do_all = 0; int do_video = 0; int do_ac3 = 0; int do_mpg = 0; int verbose = 0; int keep_pack = 0; int keep_pes = -1; #define STCODE(p,a,b,c,d) ((p)[0] == a && (p)[1] == b && (p)[2] == c && (p)[3] == d) static void un_css(int fdi, int fdo) { unsigned char *sp, *pes; int writen, wr, peslen, hdrlen; while (read(fdi, sector, 2048) == 2048) { ++sectors; if (!STCODE(sector,0x00,0x00,0x01,0xba)) { fputs("Not Pack start code\n", stderr); ++skipped; continue; } if (do_all) goto write_it; pes = sector + 14 + (sector[13] & 0x07); if (STCODE(pes,0x00,0x00,0x01,0xbb)) {/* System Header Pack Layer */ peslen = (pes[0x04] 0 && writen 32) usage_exit(); ++keep_pes; break; case '1': case '2': case '3': case '4': case '5': case '6': case '7': case '8': do_ac3 = c - '0'; ++keep_pes; break; case EOF: goto got_args; default: usage_exit(); break; } got_args: keep_pes = (keep_pes > 0) ? 1 : 0; return optind; } int main(int ac, char **av) { int ai, fd; char titlef[12]; if ((fd = open("disk-key", O_RDONLY)) == -1) { perror("can't open disk-key"); exit(1); } if (read(fd, disk_key, 2048) != 2048) { perror("can't read disk-key"); close(fd); exit(1); } close(fd); if ((ai = parse_args(ac, av)) >= ac) usage_exit(); strcpy(titlef, "title"); strcat(titlef, title); strcat(titlef, "-key"); if ((fd = open(titlef, O_RDONLY)) == -1) { perror("can't open title-key"); exit(1); } if (read(fd, title_key, 5) != 5) { perror("can't read title-key"); close(fd); exit(1); } close(fd); if (strcmp(av[ai], "-") == 0) fd = 0; else if ((fd = open(av[ai], O_RDONLY)) == -1) { fputs("can't open VOB file ", stderr); fputs(av[ai], stderr); perror(""); exit(1); } if (!css_decrypttitlekey(title_key, disk_key, playkeys)) { close(fd); return 3; } un_css(fd, 1); fprintf(stderr, "Total %lu, skipped %lu, crvid %lu\n", sectors, skipped, crypted); close(fd); return 0; }

  126. css-cat.c by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    /*
    * css-cat.c
    *
    * Copyright 1999 Derek Fawcus.
    *
    * Released under version 2 of the GPL.
    *
    * Decode selected sector types from a CSS encoded DVD to stdout. Use as a
    * filter on the input to mpeg2player or ac3dec.
    *
    */

    #include
    #include
    #if defined(__linux__)
    # include
    #endif /* __linux__ */
    #include
    #include
    #include

    #include "css-descramble.h"

    static struct playkey pkey1a1 = {0x36b, {0x51,0x67,0x67,0xc5,0xe0}};
    static struct playkey pkey2a1 = {0x762, {0x2c,0xb2,0xc1,0x09,0xee}};
    static struct playkey pkey1b1 = {0x36b, {0x90,0xc1,0xd7,0x84,0x48}};

    static struct playkey pkey1a2 = {0x2f3, {0x51,0x67,0x67,0xc5,0xe0}};
    static struct playkey pkey2a2 = {0x730, {0x2c,0xb2,0xc1,0x09,0xee}};
    static struct playkey pkey1b2 = {0x2f3, {0x90,0xc1,0xd7,0x84,0x48}};

    static struct playkey pkey1a3 = {0x235, {0x51,0x67,0x67,0xc5,0xe0}};
    static struct playkey pkey1b3 = {0x235, {0x90,0xc1,0xd7,0x84,0x48}};

    static struct playkey pkey3a1 = {0x249, {0xb7,0x3f,0xd4,0xaa,0x14}}; /* DVD specific ? */
    static struct playkey pkey4a1 = {0x028, {0x53,0xd4,0xf7,0xd9,0x8f}}; /* DVD specific ? */


    static struct playkey *playkeys[] = {
    &pkey1a1, &pkey2a1, &pkey1b1,
    &pkey1a2, &pkey2a2, &pkey1b2,
    &pkey1a3, &pkey1b3,
    &pkey3a1, &pkey4a1,
    NULL};

    static unsigned char disk_key[2048];
    static unsigned char title_key[5];

    static unsigned char sector[2048];

    unsigned long sectors = 0;
    unsigned long crypted = 0;
    unsigned long skipped = 0;

    int do_all = 0;
    int do_video = 0;
    int do_ac3 = 0;
    int do_mpg = 0;
    int verbose = 0;
    int keep_pack = 0;
    int keep_pes = -1;

    #define STCODE(p,a,b,c,d) ((p)[0] == a && (p)[1] == b && (p)[2] == c && (p)[3] == d)

    static void un_css(int fdi, int fdo)
    {
    unsigned char *sp, *pes;
    int writen, wr, peslen, hdrlen;

    while (read(fdi, sector, 2048) == 2048) {
    ++sectors;
    if (!STCODE(sector,0x00,0x00,0x01,0xba)) {
    fputs("Not Pack start code\n", stderr);
    ++skipped; continue;
    }

    if (do_all)
    goto write_it;

    pes = sector + 14 + (sector[13] & 0x07);
    if (STCODE(pes,0x00,0x00,0x01,0xbb)) {/* System Header Pack Layer */
    peslen = (pes[0x04] 0 && writen 32)
    usage_exit();
    ++keep_pes;
    break;
    case '1': case '2': case '3': case '4':
    case '5': case '6': case '7': case '8':
    do_ac3 = c - '0';
    ++keep_pes;
    break;
    case EOF:
    goto got_args;
    default:
    usage_exit();
    break;
    }

    got_args:
    keep_pes = (keep_pes > 0) ? 1 : 0;

    return optind;
    }

    int main(int ac, char **av)
    {
    int ai, fd;
    char titlef[12];

    if ((fd = open("disk-key", O_RDONLY)) == -1) {
    perror("can't open disk-key");
    exit(1);
    }
    if (read(fd, disk_key, 2048) != 2048) {
    perror("can't read disk-key");
    close(fd);
    exit(1);
    }
    close(fd);

    if ((ai = parse_args(ac, av)) >= ac)
    usage_exit();

    strcpy(titlef, "title");
    strcat(titlef, title);
    strcat(titlef, "-key");

    if ((fd = open(titlef, O_RDONLY)) == -1) {
    perror("can't open title-key");
    exit(1);
    }
    if (read(fd, title_key, 5) != 5) {
    perror("can't read title-key");
    close(fd);
    exit(1);
    }
    close(fd);

    if (strcmp(av[ai], "-") == 0)
    fd = 0;
    else if ((fd = open(av[ai], O_RDONLY)) == -1) {
    fputs("can't open VOB file ", stderr);
    fputs(av[ai], stderr);
    perror("");
    exit(1);
    }

    if (!css_decrypttitlekey(title_key, disk_key, playkeys)) {
    close(fd);
    return 3;
    }

    un_css(fd, 1);

    fprintf(stderr, "Total %lu, skipped %lu, crvid %lu\n",
    sectors, skipped, crypted);

    close(fd);

    return 0;
    }

  127. css-descramble.c by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    /*
    * css_descramble.c
    *
    * Released under the version 2 of the GPL.
    *
    * Copyright 1999 Derek Fawcus
    *
    * This file contains functions to descramble CSS encrypted DVD content
    *
    */

    /*
    * Still in progress: Remove the use of the bit_reverse[] table by recoding
    * the generation of LFSR1. Finish combining this with
    * the css authentication code.
    *
    */

    #include
    #include
    #include "css-descramble.h"

    typedef unsigned char byte;

    /*
    *
    * some tables used for descrambling sectors and/or decrypting title keys
    *
    */

    static byte csstab1[256]=
    {
    0x33,0x73,0x3b,0x26,0x63,0x23,0x6b,0x76,0x3e,0x7e, 0x36,0x2b,0x6e,0x2e,0x66,0x7b,
    0xd3,0x93,0xdb,0x06,0x43,0x03,0x4b,0x96,0xde,0x9e, 0xd6,0x0b,0x4e,0x0e,0x46,0x9b,
    0x57,0x17,0x5f,0x82,0xc7,0x87,0xcf,0x12,0x5a,0x1a, 0x52,0x8f,0xca,0x8a,0xc2,0x1f,
    0xd9,0x99,0xd1,0x00,0x49,0x09,0x41,0x90,0xd8,0x98, 0xd0,0x01,0x48,0x08,0x40,0x91,
    0x3d,0x7d,0x35,0x24,0x6d,0x2d,0x65,0x74,0x3c,0x7c, 0x34,0x25,0x6c,0x2c,0x64,0x75,
    0xdd,0x9d,0xd5,0x04,0x4d,0x0d,0x45,0x94,0xdc,0x9c, 0xd4,0x05,0x4c,0x0c,0x44,0x95,
    0x59,0x19,0x51,0x80,0xc9,0x89,0xc1,0x10,0x58,0x18, 0x50,0x81,0xc8,0x88,0xc0,0x11,
    0xd7,0x97,0xdf,0x02,0x47,0x07,0x4f,0x92,0xda,0x9a, 0xd2,0x0f,0x4a,0x0a,0x42,0x9f,
    0x53,0x13,0x5b,0x86,0xc3,0x83,0xcb,0x16,0x5e,0x1e, 0x56,0x8b,0xce,0x8e,0xc6,0x1b,
    0xb3,0xf3,0xbb,0xa6,0xe3,0xa3,0xeb,0xf6,0xbe,0xfe, 0xb6,0xab,0xee,0xae,0xe6,0xfb,
    0x37,0x77,0x3f,0x22,0x67,0x27,0x6f,0x72,0x3a,0x7a, 0x32,0x2f,0x6a,0x2a,0x62,0x7f,
    0xb9,0xf9,0xb1,0xa0,0xe9,0xa9,0xe1,0xf0,0xb8,0xf8, 0xb0,0xa1,0xe8,0xa8,0xe0,0xf1,
    0x5d,0x1d,0x55,0x84,0xcd,0x8d,0xc5,0x14,0x5c,0x1c, 0x54,0x85,0xcc,0x8c,0xc4,0x15,
    0xbd,0xfd,0xb5,0xa4,0xed,0xad,0xe5,0xf4,0xbc,0xfc, 0xb4,0xa5,0xec,0xac,0xe4,0xf5,
    0x39,0x79,0x31,0x20,0x69,0x29,0x61,0x70,0x38,0x78, 0x30,0x21,0x68,0x28,0x60,0x71,
    0xb7,0xf7,0xbf,0xa2,0xe7,0xa7,0xef,0xf2,0xba,0xfa, 0xb2,0xaf,0xea,0xaa,0xe2,0xff
    };

    static byte lfsr1_bits0[256]=
    {
    0x00,0x01,0x02,0x03,0x04,0x05,0x06,0x07,0x09,0x08, 0x0b,0x0a,0x0d,0x0c,0x0f,0x0e,
    0x12,0x13,0x10,0x11,0x16,0x17,0x14,0x15,0x1b,0x1a, 0x19,0x18,0x1f,0x1e,0x1d,0x1c,
    0x24,0x25,0x26,0x27,0x20,0x21,0x22,0x23,0x2d,0x2c, 0x2f,0x2e,0x29,0x28,0x2b,0x2a,
    0x36,0x37,0x34,0x35,0x32,0x33,0x30,0x31,0x3f,0x3e, 0x3d,0x3c,0x3b,0x3a,0x39,0x38,
    0x49,0x48,0x4b,0x4a,0x4d,0x4c,0x4f,0x4e,0x40,0x41, 0x42,0x43,0x44,0x45,0x46,0x47,
    0x5b,0x5a,0x59,0x58,0x5f,0x5e,0x5d,0x5c,0x52,0x53, 0x50,0x51,0x56,0x57,0x54,0x55,
    0x6d,0x6c,0x6f,0x6e,0x69,0x68,0x6b,0x6a,0x64,0x65, 0x66,0x67,0x60,0x61,0x62,0x63,
    0x7f,0x7e,0x7d,0x7c,0x7b,0x7a,0x79,0x78,0x76,0x77, 0x74,0x75,0x72,0x73,0x70,0x71,
    0x92,0x93,0x90,0x91,0x96,0x97,0x94,0x95,0x9b,0x9a, 0x99,0x98,0x9f,0x9e,0x9d,0x9c,
    0x80,0x81,0x82,0x83,0x84,0x85,0x86,0x87,0x89,0x88, 0x8b,0x8a,0x8d,0x8c,0x8f,0x8e,
    0xb6,0xb7,0xb4,0xb5,0xb2,0xb3,0xb0,0xb1,0xbf,0xbe, 0xbd,0xbc,0xbb,0xba,0xb9,0xb8,
    0xa4,0xa5,0xa6,0xa7,0xa0,0xa1,0xa2,0xa3,0xad,0xac, 0xaf,0xae,0xa9,0xa8,0xab,0xaa,
    0xdb,0xda,0xd9,0xd8,0xdf,0xde,0xdd,0xdc,0xd2,0xd3, 0xd0,0xd1,0xd6,0xd7,0xd4,0xd5,
    0xc9,0xc8,0xcb,0xca,0xcd,0xcc,0xcf,0xce,0xc0,0xc1, 0xc2,0xc3,0xc4,0xc5,0xc6,0xc7,
    0xff,0xfe,0xfd,0xfc,0xfb,0xfa,0xf9,0xf8,0xf6,0xf7, 0xf4,0xf5,0xf2,0xf3,0xf0,0xf1,
    0xed,0xec,0xef,0xee,0xe9,0xe8,0xeb,0xea,0xe4,0xe5, 0xe6,0xe7,0xe0,0xe1,0xe2,0xe3
    };

    static byte lfsr1_bits1[512]=
    {
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,
    0x00,0x24,0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff,0x00,0x24, 0x49,0x6d,0x92,0xb6,0xdb,0xff
    };

    /* Reverse the order of the bits within a byte.
    */
    static byte bit_reverse[256]=
    {
    0x00,0x80,0x40,0xc0,0x20,0xa0,0x60,0xe0,0x10,0x90, 0x50,0xd0,0x30,0xb0,0x70,0xf0,
    0x08,0x88,0x48,0xc8,0x28,0xa8,0x68,0xe8,0x18,0x98, 0x58,0xd8,0x38,0xb8,0x78,0xf8,
    0x04,0x84,0x44,0xc4,0x24,0xa4,0x64,0xe4,0x14,0x94, 0x54,0xd4,0x34,0xb4,0x74,0xf4,
    0x0c,0x8c,0x4c,0xcc,0x2c,0xac,0x6c,0xec,0x1c,0x9c, 0x5c,0xdc,0x3c,0xbc,0x7c,0xfc,
    0x02,0x82,0x42,0xc2,0x22,0xa2,0x62,0xe2,0x12,0x92, 0x52,0xd2,0x32,0xb2,0x72,0xf2,
    0x0a,0x8a,0x4a,0xca,0x2a,0xaa,0x6a,0xea,0x1a,0x9a, 0x5a,0xda,0x3a,0xba,0x7a,0xfa,
    0x06,0x86,0x46,0xc6,0x26,0xa6,0x66,0xe6,0x16,0x96, 0x56,0xd6,0x36,0xb6,0x76,0xf6,
    0x0e,0x8e,0x4e,0xce,0x2e,0xae,0x6e,0xee,0x1e,0x9e, 0x5e,0xde,0x3e,0xbe,0x7e,0xfe,
    0x01,0x81,0x41,0xc1,0x21,0xa1,0x61,0xe1,0x11,0x91, 0x51,0xd1,0x31,0xb1,0x71,0xf1,
    0x09,0x89,0x49,0xc9,0x29,0xa9,0x69,0xe9,0x19,0x99, 0x59,0xd9,0x39,0xb9,0x79,0xf9,
    0x05,0x85,0x45,0xc5,0x25,0xa5,0x65,0xe5,0x15,0x95, 0x55,0xd5,0x35,0xb5,0x75,0xf5,
    0x0d,0x8d,0x4d,0xcd,0x2d,0xad,0x6d,0xed,0x1d,0x9d, 0x5d,0xdd,0x3d,0xbd,0x7d,0xfd,
    0x03,0x83,0x43,0xc3,0x23,0xa3,0x63,0xe3,0x13,0x93, 0x53,0xd3,0x33,0xb3,0x73,0xf3,
    0x0b,0x8b,0x4b,0xcb,0x2b,0xab,0x6b,0xeb,0x1b,0x9b, 0x5b,0xdb,0x3b,0xbb,0x7b,0xfb,
    0x07,0x87,0x47,0xc7,0x27,0xa7,0x67,0xe7,0x17,0x97, 0x57,0xd7,0x37,0xb7,0x77,0xf7,
    0x0f,0x8f,0x4f,0xcf,0x2f,0xaf,0x6f,0xef,0x1f,0x9f, 0x5f,0xdf,0x3f,0xbf,0x7f,0xff
    };

    /*
    *
    * this function is only used internally when decrypting title key
    *
    */
    static void css_titlekey(byte *key, byte *im, byte invert)
    {
    unsigned int lfsr1_lo,lfsr1_hi,lfsr0,combined;
    byte o_lfsr0, o_lfsr1;
    byte k[5];
    int i;

    lfsr1_lo = im[0] | 0x100;
    lfsr1_hi = im[1];

    lfsr0 = ((im[4] >8)&0xff] >16)&0xff]>24)&0xff];

    combined = 0;
    for (i = 0; i >1;
    lfsr1_lo = ((lfsr1_lo&1)>7)^(lfsr0>>10)^(lfsr0>>11)^(lfsr0>>1 9);*/
    o_lfsr0 = (((((((lfsr0>>8)^lfsr0)>>1)^lfsr0)>>3)^lfsr0)>>7);
    lfsr0 = (lfsr0>>8)|(o_lfsr0>= 8;
    }

    key[4]=k[4]^csstab1[key[4]]^key[3];
    key[3]=k[3]^csstab1[key[3]]^key[2];
    key[2]=k[2]^csstab1[key[2]]^key[1];
    key[1]=k[1]^csstab1[key[1]]^key[0];
    key[0]=k[0]^csstab1[key[0]]^key[4];

    key[4]=k[4]^csstab1[key[4]]^key[3];
    key[3]=k[3]^csstab1[key[3]]^key[2];
    key[2]=k[2]^csstab1[key[2]]^key[1];
    key[1]=k[1]^csstab1[key[1]]^key[0];
    key[0]=k[0]^csstab1[key[0]];
    }

    /*
    *
    * this function decrypts a title key with the specified disk key
    *
    * tkey: the unobfuscated title key (XORed with BusKey)
    * dkey: the unobfuscated disk key (XORed with BusKey)
    * 2048 bytes in length (though only 5 bytes are needed, see below)
    * pkey: array of pointers to player keys and disk key offsets
    *
    *
    * use the result returned in tkey with css_descramble
    *
    */

    int css_decrypttitlekey(byte *tkey, byte *dkey, struct playkey **pkey)
    {
    byte test[5], pretkey[5];
    int i = 0;

    for (; *pkey; ++pkey, ++i) {
    memcpy(pretkey, dkey + (*pkey)->offset, 5);
    css_titlekey(pretkey, (*pkey)->key, 0);

    memcpy(test, dkey, 5);
    css_titlekey(test, pretkey, 0);

    if (memcmp(test, pretkey, 5) == 0) {
    fprintf(stderr, "Using Key %d\n", i+1);
    break;
    }
    }

    if (!*pkey) {
    fprintf(stderr, "Shit - Need Key %d\n", i+1);
    return 0;
    }

    css_titlekey(tkey, pretkey, 0xff);

    return 1;
    }

    /*
    *
    * this function does the actual descrambling
    *
    * sec: encrypted sector (2048 bytes)
    * key: decrypted title key obtained from css_decrypttitlekey
    *
    */
    void css_descramble(byte *sec,byte *key)
    {
    unsigned int lfsr1_lo,lfsr1_hi,lfsr0,combined;
    unsigned char o_lfsr0, o_lfsr1;
    unsigned char *end = sec + 0x800;
    #define SALTED(i) (key[i] ^ sec[0x54 + (i)])

    lfsr1_lo = SALTED(0) | 0x100;
    lfsr1_hi = SALTED(1);

    lfsr0 = ((SALTED(4) >8)&0xff] >16)&0xff]>24)&0xff];

    sec+=0x80;
    combined = 0;
    while (sec != end) {
    o_lfsr1 = lfsr1_bits0[lfsr1_hi] ^ lfsr1_bits1[lfsr1_lo];
    lfsr1_hi = lfsr1_lo>>1;
    lfsr1_lo = ((lfsr1_lo&1)>7)^(lfsr0>>10)^(lfsr0>>11)^(lfsr0>>1 9);*/
    o_lfsr0 = (((((((lfsr0>>8)^lfsr0)>>1)^lfsr0)>>3)^lfsr0)>>7);
    lfsr0 = (lfsr0>>8)|(o_lfsr0>= 8;
    }
    }

  128. css-descamble.h by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #ifndef __css_descramble_h_
    #define __css_descramble_h_

    struct playkey {
    int offset;
    unsigned char key[5];
    };

    extern int css_decrypttitlekey(unsigned char *tkey, unsigned char *dkey, struct playkey **pkey);
    extern void css_descramble(unsigned char *sec,unsigned char *key);

    #endif

  129. Problems with viewing output.vob with mpeg2player by gregstoll · · Score: 1

    Anyone else having this problem? I used css-cat with -v, and it appeared to work (got a huge output.vob), but when I do mpeg2player -vob -na -f output.vob, it just prints some data out and pops open a window that remains blank. It says something about "requires 16 bit display" - anyone have an idea what's happening?

  130. dvdinfo.c by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    /*
    * A noddy program for getting and printing some info from the
    * DVD-ROM drive.
    */

    #include
    #include
    #if defined(__OpenBSD__)
    # include
    #elif defined(__linux__)
    # include
    #else
    # error "Need the DVD ioctls"
    #endif
    #include
    #include

    #define DVD "/dev/cdrom"

    int GetASF(int fd)
    {
    dvd_authinfo ai;

    ai.type = DVD_LU_SEND_ASF;
    ai.lsasf.agid = 0;
    ai.lsasf.asf = 0;

    if (ioctl(fd, DVD_AUTH, &ai)) {
    printf("GetASF failed\n");
    return 0;
    }

    printf("%sAuthenticated\n", (ai.lsasf.asf) ? "" : "not ");

    return 1;
    }

    int GetPhysical(int fd)
    {
    dvd_struct d;
    int layer = 0, layers = 4;

    d.physical.type = DVD_STRUCT_PHYSICAL;
    while (layer 1)
    device = av[1];

    fd = open(device, O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK);

    if (fd 0) {
    printf("unable to open dvd drive (%s).\n", device);
    return 1;
    }

    GetASF(fd);

    GetPhysical(fd);
    GetCopyright(fd);

    return 0;
    }

  131. Something useful.. by penguinboy · · Score: 3

    ..would be a multimedia-oriented linux distro. Good stuff to include would be MP3 players/encoders, WAV players/recorers, MIDI sequencers, various video players, and of course a fully functional DVD player. It would not be necessary to include most of the various server programs and such, since it would be oriented towards MM and the idea would be to have the system do the best it could.

  132. Makefile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    headers = css-auth.h
    tstdvd_objs = tstdvd.o css-auth.o
    validate_objs = validate.o css-auth.o
    cat_objs = css-cat.o css-descramble.o

    all: tstdvd reset dvdinfo css-cat

    tstdvd: $(tstdvd_objs) $(headers)
    gcc $(tstdvd_objs) -o $@

    css-cat: $(cat_objs) css-descramble.h
    gcc $(cat_objs) -o $@

    validate: $(validate_objs) $(headers)
    gcc $(validate_objs) -o $@

    clean:
    -rm -f *.o tstdvd validate reset dvdinfo

    dist-files = css-auth/COPYING css-auth/README css-auth/Makefile \
    css-auth/css-auth.h css-auth/css-auth.c \
    css-auth/tstdvd.c css-auth/dvdinfo.c css-auth/reset.c \
    css-auth/css-cat.c css-auth/css-descramble.c \
    css-auth/css-descramble.h

    dist:
    (cd ..;tar cvf css-auth.tar $(dist-files) )

  133. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 1
    What's to stop me, with that kind of logic, from deciding that every entertainment I want is overpriced?
    The ratios I used were the intuitive threshold, for me, that would decide whether or not I would pay for something. Skew the ratio, it being subjective and all, and every entertainment form could be overpriced. But reasonable people keep this ratio in check.
  134. Readme by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This source package does two things.

    a) It contains code to perform the css authentication protocol,
    allowing locked sectors on the DVD disc to be accessed.

    This also allows us to read the disc key and title keys.

    b) It contains an implementation of the css decryption algorithm,
    so that we can watch DVD's.

    Also included are some test programs to wrarp around the above code
    blocks so that something usefule can be performed.

    The programs included are tstdvd, reset, dvdinfo and css-cat.

    tstdvd can be used to unlock the disc (saving the disk key) and
    to extract the title keys. usage is:

    reset /path/to/dvd/device

    This will reset all AGIDs that the drive has given out. This
    can sometimes be useful when something goes wrong.

    tstdvd /path/to/dvd/device

    This will authenticate the device and save the disk key into
    a file in the current directory called "disk-key".

    (mount the dvd somewhere)

    tstdvd /path/to/dvd/device /mount/path/video_ts/vts_01_1.vob

    This will reauthenticate and then read the title key for
    the chosen vob file, saving it in a file in the current
    directoy called "title-key".

    Do the above title key extraction for each title on the disc,
    renaming the title-key files to title1-key, title2-key etc.

    dvdinfo /path/to/dvd/device

    Displays some info from the physical and copyright pages. This
    includes the region limits on the disc, its encryption status,
    and the authentication status.

    css-cat [-t title-no] [-m mpeg-audio-no ] [-vPpm12345678] vob_file

    This will decrypt the selected vob file and send to stdout. It
    needs the files "disk-key" and "titleX-key" to be in the current
    directory. The default title-no is one, so by default it will look
    for "title1-key".

    The options select what will be sent to stdout. By default, nothing
    will. The m option is not yet coded, the v option selects video, the
    numbers select the appropriate AC3 stream.
    It will normally extract the selected stream from the enclosing
    Program stream, thus giving an elemental stream. However if the K option
    (or more than one stream) is selected then the data will be left inside
    the PES packets, allowing a subsequent demux program to determine the
    data type.

    I tend to use:

    cat /dvd/video_ts/vts_01_[1-9].vob|css-cat -v1P -|mpeg2player -vob -f -

    NOTE: To use the above you need to have a kernel which incorporates the
    DVD ioctls. This can either be the original patch by Andrew Veliath
    or Jens Axboe's patches. If using Andrews versio of the patches,
    you'll have to change the use of .key in the sources to .key1/.key2
    (the places are quite easy to find).

    Jens site is www.kernel.dk

    Changes:
    Patches have been applied to use the OpenBSD headers, so maybe it'll
    work.

    There a some more keys included. It should now be able to decrypt
    all titles currently on the market. I think the last two keys can
    be removed. Someone with 'The Matrix' please test and get back to
    me.

    Mpeg audio streams should now be extractable when filtering, this is
    untested.

    It now copes with System headers in the Pack layer (those 0x000001bb
    start codes).

    The command line options have changed between the last version and
    this one - pay attention.

    DF 1999/11/05

  135. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by TummyX · · Score: 1

    That is a valid point. However, things like XF86Config get large enough once you add font paths..and some extra config. (ok it's not huge...but you get the idea).
    Your argument sounds like an argument for floppies.

    "Why would we ever want harddisk - having everything on one drive rather than just 1000 floppies! It's safer!"


    You're right that if the registry corrupts - you lose a lot. But then I don't think that really should stop you from doing it 'the best way IMHO' (I'm a fan of centralized & common standard storage of information) - and then solve the problems by backups. It's harder to backup all settings if they are in small files spread out everywhere.

    I think basically the registry acts as a simple database. Think how much safer over a text file a transactional settings database (sitting on a JFS) would be? That's the registry :)
    There are many things that need to be stored - most of the windows registry actually involveds storing COM object GUIDs,IIDs etc....splitting that over several files would be silly :)
    The registry in Win32 has other features like in memory settings (they go away when the user logs off) etc.

    Say you had a 20MB of work... Would you split it up into ~1MB bits ...or keep it together and back it all up?

  136. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Money__ · · Score: 1
    Motivation for creating content is not as important as my freedom to use a cd burner in the privacy of my home. It is exactly the same as child sex and recreational drugs. The part about motivation and payment is completely irrelevant. [snip].... The issue is morals.

    I hope this was a typo. I really do. and if it isn't a typo, you have absolutly no right what so ever to use the word Morals as you obviously don't have the first clue as to it's meaning.

    I hope that was a typo.

  137. DVD in Linux by NeuralAbyss · · Score: 1

    Woohoo! Now let's have the DVD Encoding software available for linux... IMO that should be the next (wonderful) step!

    1. Re:DVD in Linux by IceFox · · Score: 1

      That would take a act of god.

      --
      Do you changes clothes while making the "chee-chee-cha-cha-choh" transformation sound?
    2. Re:DVD in Linux by QuMa · · Score: 1

      Ok, I'll see if I can get roud to it :-)

  138. reset.c by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    /* * A noddy program which tries to reset all AGID's on the DVD-ROM drive. */ #include #include #if defined(__OpenBSD__) # include #elif defined(__linux__) # include #else # error "Need the DVD ioctls" #endif #include #include static int fd; #define DVD "/dev/cdrom" int main(int ac, char **av) { dvd_authinfo ai; char *device = DVD; int i; if (ac > 1) device = av[1]; fd = open(device, O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK); if (fd 0) { printf("unable to open dvd drive (%s).\n", device); return 1; } for (i = 0; i 4; i++) { memset(&ai, 0, sizeof(ai)); ai.type = DVD_INVALIDATE_AGID; ai.lsa.agid = i; ioctl(fd, DVD_AUTH, &ai); } return 0; }

  139. Re:What a loser by roystgnr · · Score: 1

    Translation: "I don't have a lot of money, don't expect to ever have a lot of money, and feel a deep resentment at people who do, and who thus expose my deep feelings of avarice and inadequacy."


    How do you suppose that?

    Because I defined "a lot of money" as "the amount of money past which debrain thinks money is immoral". Should have made that more clear, but I figured you'd get it from context. So do you have (or ever expect to have) "a lot of money" by that definition? If so, it would be hypocrisy, and if not, then the first two clauses above were right.

    The "deep resentment" was my interpretation of your generalizing statements such as "perpetual greed", "exploited", and "money eater". Maybe "deep" was a stretched guess, but you do seem to have a bone to pick with people who do nothing but make movies and offer (not force, mind you, just offer) to let you see them for a small price.

    "Avarice" was a reference to the penny-pinching, pathetic greed it takes to publicly, proudly claim apathy toward producers risking million dollar losses, while you whine about losing a couple dollars because you didn't read the right reviews before going to see a bad movie.

    My reasons for defending the rights of individuals is that I've worked with the Red Cross and Amnesty International, refugees of Yugoslavia and Kosovo and Ukraine and Nigeria

    You're comparing Hollywood producers to genocidal tyrants and armed warlords, and you're calling me an asshole? Do you really not see the difference between putting a gun to someones head so you can take their livelihood vs. putting a commercial on the air to promote your movie? One action shreds the rights of individuals, one action doesn't impinge upon anyone's rights.

    leading me to believe that you are a genuine asshole

    Well, it's not my day job, but whatever, it's no worse than a couple of the assumptions I made about you. I take back "inadequacy", to start. I'll apologize for "loser" too; the Red Cross & Amnesty International service more than makes up for a couple muddy socialist inclinations.

    But honestly, look at yourself - you really started out defending individuals' rights to freedom from totalitarian governments, and ended up defending individuals' rights to free copies of blockbuster movies? That's kind of a sad progression. At least most socialist activists talk about collectivist farming or factories first, and worry about how to entertain couch potatoes later.
  140. reset.c by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    /*
    * A noddy program which tries to reset all AGID's on the DVD-ROM drive.
    */

    #include
    #include
    #if defined(__OpenBSD__)
    # include
    #elif defined(__linux__)
    # include
    #else
    # error "Need the DVD ioctls"
    #endif
    #include
    #include

    static int fd;

    #define DVD "/dev/cdrom"

    int main(int ac, char **av)
    {
    dvd_authinfo ai;
    char *device = DVD;
    int i;

    if (ac > 1)
    device = av[1];

    fd = open(device, O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK);

    if (fd 0) {
    printf("unable to open dvd drive (%s).\n", device);
    return 1;
    }

    for (i = 0; i 4; i++) {
    memset(&ai, 0, sizeof(ai));
    ai.type = DVD_INVALIDATE_AGID;
    ai.lsa.agid = i;
    ioctl(fd, DVD_AUTH, &ai);
    }

    return 0;
    }

  141. Re:I know I am Offtopic... by El+Volio · · Score: 1

    They went out of business. Belly up. And good thing, too -- DVD is much better, since no one is going to know how much I watch, or even what I watch. If I want to buy a DVD, then I want to own it.

    ObOnTopic: I'm interested how many folks actually watch DVD's on their computer vs. how many watch it on a regular TV as part of their entertainment system. I'm in the second category. Anybody else?

    --

    "You can never have too many elephants on your team."

  142. tstdvd.c by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    /*
    * tstdvd.c
    *
    * Example program showing usage of DVD CSS ioctls
    *
    * Copyright (C) 1999 Andrew T. Veliath
    * See http://www.rpi.edu/~veliaa/linux-dvd for more info.
    */

    /* Hacked about by Derek Fawcus such that
    * it can be used as a simple program to authenticate the
    * computer with the DVD-ROM drive.
    *
    * If supplied with one parameter it gets the disk key and
    * saves it to a file. If supplied with a second parameter
    * (a LBA) then it gets the title key for the supplied LBA.
    *
    * When getting the disk key, only the first 10 bytes of it
    * are printed. The whole key is written to the file.
    */

    #include
    #include
    #include
    #include
    #include
    #include
    #include
    #include
    #include
    #include
    #include
    #if defined(__OpenBSD__)
    # include
    #elif defined(__linux__)
    # include
    #else
    # error "Need the DVD ioctls"
    #endif
    #include "css-auth.h"

    byte Challenge[10];
    struct block Key1;
    struct block Key2;
    struct block KeyCheck;
    byte DiscKey[10];
    int varient = -1;

    void print_challenge(const byte *chal)
    {
    int i;

    for (i = 0; i type) {
    /* Host data receive (host changes state) */
    case DVD_LU_SEND_AGID:
    printf("AGID %d\n", ai->lsa.agid);
    ai->type = DVD_HOST_SEND_CHALLENGE;
    break;

    case DVD_LU_SEND_KEY1:
    printf("LU sent key1: "); print_key(ai->lsk.key); printf("\n");
    if (!authenticate_drive(ai->lsk.key)) {
    ai->type = DVD_AUTH_FAILURE;
    return -EINVAL;
    }
    ai->type = DVD_LU_SEND_CHALLENGE;
    break;

    case DVD_LU_SEND_CHALLENGE:
    for (i = 0; i hsc.chal[9-i];
    printf("LU sent challenge: "); print_challenge(Challenge); printf("\n");
    CryptKey2(varient, Challenge, &Key2);
    ai->type = DVD_HOST_SEND_KEY2;
    break;

    /* Host data send */
    case DVD_HOST_SEND_CHALLENGE:
    for (i = 0; i hsc.chal[9-i] = Challenge[i];
    printf("Host sending challenge: "); print_challenge(Challenge); printf("\n");
    /* Returning data, let LU change state */
    break;

    case DVD_HOST_SEND_KEY2:
    for (i = 0; i hsk.key[4-i] = Key2.b[i];
    printf("Host sending key 2: "); print_key(Key2.b); printf("\n");
    /* Returning data, let LU change state */
    break;

    default:
    printf("Got invalid state %d\n", ai->type);
    return -EINVAL;
    }

    return 0;
    }

    int authenticate(int fd, int title, int lba)
    {
    dvd_authinfo ai;
    dvd_struct dvds;
    int i, rv, tries, agid;

    memset(&ai, 0, sizeof (ai));
    memset(&dvds, 0, sizeof (dvds));

    GetASF(fd);

    /* Init sequence, request AGID */
    for (tries = 1, rv = -1; rv == -1 && tries [title_path]\n");
    exit (1);
    }
    device = av[1];
    fd = open(device, O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK);
    if (fd 0) {
    perror(device);
    exit(1);
    }
    if (ac == 3) {
    lba = path_to_lba(av[2]);
    title = 1;
    }
    authenticate(fd, title, lba);
    close(fd);

    return 0;
    }

  143. Re:Problems with viewing output.vob with mpeg2play by voidptr · · Score: 1

    You need to run X in 16 bit mode for the time being. (Once hardware YUV->RGB & Overlay is in , it should fix that). Kill X, and do startx -- -bpp 16

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  144. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Foogle · · Score: 1
    Okay, this is my last post, because it's late and, like I said, I really don't care anymore and I'd rather not take this to the level of name-calling. You can reply if you'd like Musc, and maybe someone else will pick up the debate.

    Look at what I said earlier. You not seeing a movie doesn't help anyone (obviously). But if everyone pirated the movie, as you suggest, instead of paying for it, then the producer doesn't get any money. If the producers don't get any money then they can't make any more movies and so the industry dies out. Since you obviously enjoy watching movies, it seems to me that the death of the movie-creating industry would strike you as being a bad thing.

    Moreover, there are plenty of other ways to see a movie that do not involve violating IP laws and ethical consideration in general. If you really want to see if for free, then wait for it to be on one of the Networks or pay a marginal fee to HBO (or another movie channel) so you can hear all the original swearing.

    Anyway, like I said: I don't care. Do what you want, I can't stop you. It's late and I'm going to bed.

    -----------

    "You can't shake the Devil's hand and say you're only kidding."

  145. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by TummyX · · Score: 1


    As far as GUIs crashing, I have far more Windows Explorer crashes than I ever get from XFree.


    I was refering to GDI rather than Explorer...explorer isn't the GUI engine...it's more like a Window Manager in X terms....well sortta - a better comparision would be something like KDE's file manager.



    Microsoft IE 5 is the best web browser currently available. But it also is a bloated pig in terms of system resources and does not fully adhere to standards, and I'd bet in the not too distant future will be surpassed by Mozilla. In the meantime Netscape is quite 'decent' thank you

    Yes it is, but bloated like a pig in terms of systems resources? I have yet to find a browser (graphical) that takes less resources...it's fast, and takes very little memory...even over mozilla. especially over hotjava and netscape.

    netscape isn't quite decent by my standards...i don't want to be afraid to resize the browser window (netscape likes to reload off the server if you do that) or have the entire process lock up while it does a DNS lookup. I wonder if Netscape even uses threads.


    Also, CORBA isn't doing the same jobs as COM - COM is far more popular than CORBA. CORBA is more popular than DCOM however. You don't see very many ActiveX or COM components out there using CORBA - it's too slow (that's why KDE developed KOM....mozilla developed xpCOM).

    And read my other post for the reasons on a registry - basically the same reason to have a database and file per table like the old 198x databases. It has *some* disadvantages (like having a harddisk over floppies) but has many advantages.

  146. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by mattreilly · · Score: 1

    I have a serious qualm with thieving the money of artists. I have no qualm, however, with taking money from the
    industry that holds the artists down, that represents itself as if it were the artists themselves. I'm speaking of distributers.


    Then don't buy the artists' CD at Walmart or Tower or where ever. Go to see them live and buy it from them there, then all the money goes to them. If you're talking about huge major labels acts on the other hand, there is not a lot you can do to give them your money, they sold their souls long ago.

    cheers,

    matthew reilly

  147. To repeat again. The doublespeak quote: by Convergence · · Score: 1

    Freedom is Slavery, Duplication is Theft, Words are Property.

    The RIAA, and whatever other representives are doing pretty good, they're already accomplished two of the three in the public's mind. Want to take bets on how long until they accomplish the third?



  148. Why would you want to? by xpurple · · Score: 2

    Even if you could copy them, and post them, who would want to, do you realize how much bandwith it would take up to upload an 'entire' movie? The only reason that mp3 piracy is a problem, is the average mp3 is only 5 megs, and what's that, couple min download with a decent modem? But, you get up to a couple hundred megs (actualy more) for a DVD film, yer talking some serious d/l time here. It's just not worth the trouble (unless of course your on a lan (like in a collage), but even then, the only other people who would have easy access are few)

    Not much of a threat

    --
    http://www.xpurple.com
    1. Re:Why would you want to? by IceFox · · Score: 4

      A raw DVD can be 9GB That is way to much for the average user, heck jsut about everyone. And with this program it is stupid to copy the raw data cause it wont work anyway. The only way to copy it would be with a DVD recorder and do bit/bit copy. Oh by the way thoughs are $17,000. Oh and your average DVD is $14.95

      --
      Do you changes clothes while making the "chee-chee-cha-cha-choh" transformation sound?
    2. Re:Why would you want to? by DragonHawk · · Score: 1

      Even if you could copy them, and post them, who would want to, do you realize how much bandwith it would take up to upload an 'entire' movie?

      Can you imagine downloading an MP3 at 300 baud?

      Can you imagine storing an MP3 on 5.25-inch floppy diskettes?

      The technology will improve. It is only a matter of time.

      --

      dragonhawk@iname.microsoft.com
      I do not like Microsoft. Remove them from my email address.
    3. Re:Why would you want to? by nufan · · Score: 1

      alt.binaries.multimeda

      Movies are pirated all the time and have been for a good while.

    4. Re:Why would you want to? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dvd's can be up to around 9 gig .. that's big .. i agree, but you then have a quality starting point to convert to an MPEG-1 stream for writing VCD's .. around 2cd's a movie, 650meg a cd.

      this is very manageable, especially for all the 'leet warez kiddies on cable modem's in the US.

      Alternatively, for those of you on less bandwidth trading seems to take place in microsofts ASF format.

      generally around 200meg a movie .. quality can be alright to downright shite.

      either way, you obviously have no idea of the wholesale piracy that goes on around you.

    5. Re:Why would you want to? by IceFox · · Score: 1

      I am very much aware of the priracy that goes on around me. I am in a college where I currently have access to just about any movie that I could want (well that is true of any collge). But like ou said the quality is shit and I can watch HBO if I wan that. I want DVD's for the quality duh

      --
      Do you changes clothes while making the "chee-chee-cha-cha-choh" transformation sound?
  149. Re:I know I am Offtopic... by crimsun · · Score: 0

    Hopefully...

    It's dead. :-)

  150. Re:DVD = Damned Video Decoding by DeathB · · Score: 1

    I hate to tell you this, but the Matrix is 7.8G... It is dual layered. (as an aside, it works just fine in my sony)

    --
    Would you do it for some scoobie crack?
  151. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Burnon · · Score: 1

    Word games are wonderful, are they not? I was convinced that upon copying a movie, you stole my ability to establish a contract with you on fair ground. Certainly, the stolen goods are not tangible, but then, neither is dignity. Ideas do have value - the question is, what value do you place on them?

  152. Woohoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's get cracking!

  153. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see (OT) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Note: This whole branch is off-topic.

    That's really fucking off the ball. In the coining of the misnomer "Intellectual Property" it seems to have been lost a simple fact:

    THERE IS NO SUCH BEAST.

    There never was such a thing as Intellectual Property, and never will be. What is intellectual is inherently not property, and never will be, and never could be. The coining of the term has confused the fact that indeed "Copyright", on the very face of it and beyond, is just that. A "Right". A "secured exclusive" right of "limited" times (Tho movie studios love to wipe their ass selectively close to the clause that gives them so much money, with the Sonny Bono law.). Mind you, that applies to the USA only.

    I doubt seriously that the men who drew up the constitution in the first place could agree on any kind of lengthy copyright term these days. In light of the fact that copyrighted information can be sold around the world at almost the same time, and pull in enormous returns in a YEAR, and go out of print on video within two years (Thank Disney (Studios - Eisner et al.) for the on-again-off-again marketing practice). How could you possibly justify a copyright term exceeding two years for movies? And computer software for the life of the author plus 70 years???? Give me a fucking break, the software is obsolete in far less than two, and the media tends to fail by then in cases of magnetics.

    The only bad thing about a 2 year copyright term would be that the GPL could not be enforced after that term, and by then the up-to-date code would be covered by later copyright anyways.

  154. Re:I know I am Offtopic... by IceFox · · Score: 1

    In December two companies are coming out with decoder cards that will allow you to push the DVD to the TV (and maybe monitor?)

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    Do you changes clothes while making the "chee-chee-cha-cha-choh" transformation sound?
  155. Some articles removed from list archives. by Paul+Crowley · · Score: 1

    The entire thread entitled "css" in the October archives is a 404. It looks like the list owners had to worry about export restrictions in those articles.

    If someone would be kind enough to mirror those articles somewhere, I'd be curious to read a technical description of the CSS algorithms.
    --

    1. Re:Some articles removed from list archives. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
      Argh... slashdot is munging the html. Here is 000578.html again. If any others show up missing let me know and I will post them.




      [Livid-dev] css






      [Livid-dev] css
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      nobody@replay.com

      Mon, 25 Oct 1999 07:01:58 +0200 (CEST)




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  156. Re:DVD = Damned Video Decoding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a dual-layered disc, that's over 8 gigs.

  157. Too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because with this CSS code, we could play DIVX disks!

  158. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Squeeze+Truck · · Score: 1

    I have it in front of me. Which section is the one that discusses economics? I forget.

    --

    "Reactionaries must be deprived of the right to voice their opinions; only the people have that right." - Mao

  159. Re:Whoa boy... by Burnon · · Score: 1

    Actually, my respect for Slashdot grows when I get a chance to see opinions like this. When I disagree, I can argue against them. It's better to know where people are coming from, even if you can't be sure of their sincerity, than to avoid their opinions altogether.

  160. Whoa, whoa, whoa by Zico · · Score: 1

    Last year, about 17,000 people were murdered or were the victims of nonnegligent manslaughter in the U.S. I think the peak year was 1994, when 21 or 22 thousand fell victim to same. It would take around 50 years of that to bring the total up to 1 million. Forget "crude," there is no comparison between this and the many tens of millions killed by 20th-century communism.

    Cheers,
    ZicoKnows@hotmail.com

  161. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fundametally, I agree with you. However, if I get a bad burger from MickyD's, I have recourse. Of course this ends in ligitation, but that is a whole different story.

  162. COPYING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

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  163. css-auth.c -- UPDATED! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    /*
    *
    * This code may be used under the terms of Version 2 of the GPL,
    * read the file COPYING for details.
    *
    */

    /*
    * These routines do some reordering of the supplied data before
    * calling engine() to do the main work.
    *
    * The reordering seems similar to that done by the initial stages of
    * the DES algorithm, in that it looks like it's just been done to
    * try and make software decoding slower. I'm not sure that it
    * actually adds anything to the security.
    *
    * The nature of the shuffling is that the bits of the supplied
    * parameter 'varient' are reorganised (and some inverted), and
    * the bytes of the parameter 'challenge' are reorganised.
    *
    * The reorganisation in each routine is different, and the first
    * (CryptKey1) does not bother of play with the 'varient' parameter.
    *
    * Since this code is only run once per disk change, I've made the
    * code table driven in order to improve readability.
    *
    * Since these routines are so similar to each other, one could even
    * abstract them all to one routine supplied a parameter determining
    * the nature of the reordering it has to do.
    */

    #include "css-auth.h"

    typedef unsigned long u32;

    static void engine(int varient, byte const *input, struct block *output);

    void CryptKey1(int varient, byte const *challenge, struct block *key)
    {
    static byte perm_challenge[] = {1,3,0,7,5, 2,9,6,4,8};

    byte scratch[10];
    int i;

    for (i = 9; i >= 0; --i)
    scratch[i] = challenge[perm_challenge[i]];

    engine(varient, scratch, key);
    }

    /* This shuffles the bits in varient to make perm_varient such that
    * 4 -> !3
    * 3 -> 4
    * varient bits: 2 -> 0 perm_varient bits
    * 1 -> 2
    * 0 -> !1
    */
    void CryptKey2(int varient, byte const *challenge, struct block *key)
    {
    static byte perm_challenge[] = {6,1,9,3,8, 5,7,4,0,2};

    static byte perm_varient[] = {
    0x0a, 0x08, 0x0e, 0x0c, 0x0b, 0x09, 0x0f, 0x0d,
    0x1a, 0x18, 0x1e, 0x1c, 0x1b, 0x19, 0x1f, 0x1d,
    0x02, 0x00, 0x06, 0x04, 0x03, 0x01, 0x07, 0x05,
    0x12, 0x10, 0x16, 0x14, 0x13, 0x11, 0x17, 0x15};

    byte scratch[10];
    int i;

    for (i = 9; i >= 0; --i)
    scratch[i] = challenge[perm_challenge[i]];

    engine(perm_varient[varient], scratch, key);
    }

    /* This shuffles the bits in varient to make perm_varient such that
    * 4 -> 0
    * 3 -> !1
    * varient bits: 2 -> !4 perm_varient bits
    * 1 -> 2
    * 0 -> 3
    */
    void CryptBusKey(int varient, byte const *challenge, struct block *key)
    {
    static byte perm_challenge[] = {4,0,3,5,7, 2,8,6,1,9};
    static byte perm_varient[] = {
    0x12, 0x1a, 0x16, 0x1e, 0x02, 0x0a, 0x06, 0x0e,
    0x10, 0x18, 0x14, 0x1c, 0x00, 0x08, 0x04, 0x0c,
    0x13, 0x1b, 0x17, 0x1f, 0x03, 0x0b, 0x07, 0x0f,
    0x11, 0x19, 0x15, 0x1d, 0x01, 0x09, 0x05, 0x0d};

    byte scratch[10];
    int i;

    for (i = 9; i >= 0; --i)
    scratch[i] = challenge[perm_challenge[i]];

    engine(perm_varient[varient], scratch, key);
    }

    /*
    * We use two LFSR's (seeded from some of the input data bytes) to
    * generate two streams of pseudo-random bits. These two bit streams
    * are then combined by simply adding with carry to generate a final
    * sequence of pseudo-random bits which is stored in the buffer that
    * 'output' points to the end of - len is the size of this buffer.
    *
    * The first LFSR is of degree 25, and has a polynomial of:
    * x^13 + x^5 + x^4 + x^1 + 1
    *
    * The second LSFR is of degree 17, and has a (primitive) polynomial of:
    * x^15 + x^1 + 1
    *
    * I don't know if these polynomials are primitive modulo 2, and thus
    * represent maximal-period LFSR's.
    *
    *
    * Note that we take the output of each LFSR from the new shifted in
    * bit, not the old shifted out bit. Thus for ease of use the LFSR's
    * are implemented in bit reversed order.
    *
    */
    static void generate_bits(byte *output, int len, struct block const *s)
    {
    u32 lfsr0, lfsr1;
    byte carry;

    /* In order to ensure that the LFSR works we need to ensure that the
    * initial values are non-zero. Thus when we initialise them from
    * the seed, we ensure that a bit is set.
    */
    lfsr0 = (s->b[0] b[1] b[2] & ~7) b[2] & 7);
    lfsr1 = (s->b[3] b[4];

    ++output;

    carry = 0;
    do {
    int bit;
    byte val;

    for (bit = 0, val = 0; bit > 24) ^ (lfsr0 >> 21) ^ (lfsr0 >> 20) ^ (lfsr0 >> 12)) & 1;
    lfsr0 = (lfsr0 > 16) ^ (lfsr1 >> 2)) & 1;
    lfsr1 = (lfsr1 > 1) & 1)

    combined = !o_lfsr1 + carry + !o_lfsr0;
    carry = BIT1(combined);
    val |= BIT0(combined) 0);
    }

    static byte Secret[];
    static byte Varients[];
    static byte Table0[];
    static byte Table1[];
    static byte Table2[];
    static byte Table3[];

    /*
    * This encryption engine implements one of 32 variations
    * one the same theme depending upon the choice in the
    * varient parameter (0 - 31).
    *
    * The algorithm itself manipulates a 40 bit input into
    * a 40 bit output.
    * The parameter 'input' is 80 bits. It consists of
    * the 40 bit input value that is to be encrypted followed
    * by a 40 bit seed value for the pseudo random number
    * generators.
    */
    static void engine(int varient, byte const *input, struct block *output)
    {
    byte cse, term, index;
    struct block temp1;
    struct block temp2;
    byte bits[30];

    int i;

    /* Feed the secret into the input values such that
    * we alter the seed to the LFSR's used above, then
    * generate the bits to play with.
    */
    for (i = 5; --i >= 0; )
    temp1.b[i] = input[5 + i] ^ Secret[i] ^ Table2[i];

    generate_bits(&bits[29], sizeof bits, &temp1);

    /* This term is used throughout the following to
    * select one of 32 different variations on the
    * algorithm.
    */
    cse = Varients[varient] ^ Table2[varient];

    /* Now the actual blocks doing the encryption. Each
    * of these works on 40 bits at a time and are quite
    * similar.
    */
    for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = input[i]) {
    index = bits[25 + i] ^ input[i];
    index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse;

    temp1.b[i] = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term;
    }
    temp1.b[4] ^= temp1.b[0];

    for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp1.b[i]) {
    index = bits[20 + i] ^ temp1.b[i];
    index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse;

    temp2.b[i] = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term;
    }
    temp2.b[4] ^= temp2.b[0];

    for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp2.b[i]) {
    index = bits[15 + i] ^ temp2.b[i];
    index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse;
    index = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term;

    temp1.b[i] = Table0[index] ^ Table2[index];
    }
    temp1.b[4] ^= temp1.b[0];

    for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp1.b[i]) {
    index = bits[10 + i] ^ temp1.b[i];
    index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse;

    index = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term;

    temp2.b[i] = Table0[index] ^ Table2[index];
    }
    temp2.b[4] ^= temp2.b[0];

    for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp2.b[i]) {
    index = bits[5 + i] ^ temp2.b[i];
    index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse;

    temp1.b[i] = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term;
    }
    temp1.b[4] ^= temp1.b[0];

    for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp1.b[i]) {
    index = bits[i] ^ temp1.b[i];
    index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse;

    output->b[i] = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term;
    }
    }

    static byte Varients[] = {
    0xB7, 0x74, 0x85, 0xD0, 0xCC, 0xDB, 0xCA, 0x73,
    0x03, 0xFE, 0x31, 0x03, 0x52, 0xE0, 0xB7, 0x42,
    0x63, 0x16, 0xF2, 0x2A, 0x79, 0x52, 0xFF, 0x1B,
    0x7A, 0x11, 0xCA, 0x1A, 0x9B, 0x40, 0xAD, 0x01};

    static byte Secret[] = {0x55, 0xD6, 0xC4, 0xC5, 0x28};

    static byte Table0[] = {
    0xB7, 0xF4, 0x82, 0x57, 0xDA, 0x4D, 0xDB, 0xE2,
    0x2F, 0x52, 0x1A, 0xA8, 0x68, 0x5A, 0x8A, 0xFF,
    0xFB, 0x0E, 0x6D, 0x35, 0xF7, 0x5C, 0x76, 0x12,
    0xCE, 0x25, 0x79, 0x29, 0x39, 0x62, 0x08, 0x24,
    0xA5, 0x85, 0x7B, 0x56, 0x01, 0x23, 0x68, 0xCF,
    0x0A, 0xE2, 0x5A, 0xED, 0x3D, 0x59, 0xB0, 0xA9,
    0xB0, 0x2C, 0xF2, 0xB8, 0xEF, 0x32, 0xA9, 0x40,
    0x80, 0x71, 0xAF, 0x1E, 0xDE, 0x8F, 0x58, 0x88,
    0xB8, 0x3A, 0xD0, 0xFC, 0xC4, 0x1E, 0xB5, 0xA0,
    0xBB, 0x3B, 0x0F, 0x01, 0x7E, 0x1F, 0x9F, 0xD9,
    0xAA, 0xB8, 0x3D, 0x9D, 0x74, 0x1E, 0x25, 0xDB,
    0x37, 0x56, 0x8F, 0x16, 0xBA, 0x49, 0x2B, 0xAC,
    0xD0, 0xBD, 0x95, 0x20, 0xBE, 0x7A, 0x28, 0xD0,
    0x51, 0x64, 0x63, 0x1C, 0x7F, 0x66, 0x10, 0xBB,
    0xC4, 0x56, 0x1A, 0x04, 0x6E, 0x0A, 0xEC, 0x9C,
    0xD6, 0xE8, 0x9A, 0x7A, 0xCF, 0x8C, 0xDB, 0xB1,
    0xEF, 0x71, 0xDE, 0x31, 0xFF, 0x54, 0x3E, 0x5E,
    0x07, 0x69, 0x96, 0xB0, 0xCF, 0xDD, 0x9E, 0x47,
    0xC7, 0x96, 0x8F, 0xE4, 0x2B, 0x59, 0xC6, 0xEE,
    0xB9, 0x86, 0x9A, 0x64, 0x84, 0x72, 0xE2, 0x5B,
    0xA2, 0x96, 0x58, 0x99, 0x50, 0x03, 0xF5, 0x38,
    0x4D, 0x02, 0x7D, 0xE7, 0x7D, 0x75, 0xA7, 0xB8,
    0x67, 0x87, 0x84, 0x3F, 0x1D, 0x11, 0xE5, 0xFC,
    0x1E, 0xD3, 0x83, 0x16, 0xA5, 0x29, 0xF6, 0xC7,
    0x15, 0x61, 0x29, 0x1A, 0x43, 0x4F, 0x9B, 0xAF,
    0xC5, 0x87, 0x34, 0x6C, 0x0F, 0x3B, 0xA8, 0x1D,
    0x45, 0x58, 0x25, 0xDC, 0xA8, 0xA3, 0x3B, 0xD1,
    0x79, 0x1B, 0x48, 0xF2, 0xE9, 0x93, 0x1F, 0xFC,
    0xDB, 0x2A, 0x90, 0xA9, 0x8A, 0x3D, 0x39, 0x18,
    0xA3, 0x8E, 0x58, 0x6C, 0xE0, 0x12, 0xBB, 0x25,
    0xCD, 0x71, 0x22, 0xA2, 0x64, 0xC6, 0xE7, 0xFB,
    0xAD, 0x94, 0x77, 0x04, 0x9A, 0x39, 0xCF, 0x7C};

    static byte Table1[] = {
    0x8C, 0x47, 0xB0, 0xE1, 0xEB, 0xFC, 0xEB, 0x56,
    0x10, 0xE5, 0x2C, 0x1A, 0x5D, 0xEF, 0xBE, 0x4F,
    0x08, 0x75, 0x97, 0x4B, 0x0E, 0x25, 0x8E, 0x6E,
    0x39, 0x5A, 0x87, 0x53, 0xC4, 0x1F, 0xF4, 0x5C,
    0x4E, 0xE6, 0x99, 0x30, 0xE0, 0x42, 0x88, 0xAB,
    0xE5, 0x85, 0xBC, 0x8F, 0xD8, 0x3C, 0x54, 0xC9,
    0x53, 0x47, 0x18, 0xD6, 0x06, 0x5B, 0x41, 0x2C,
    0x67, 0x1E, 0x41, 0x74, 0x33, 0xE2, 0xB4, 0xE0,
    0x23, 0x29, 0x42, 0xEA, 0x55, 0x0F, 0x25, 0xB4,
    0x24, 0x2C, 0x99, 0x13, 0xEB, 0x0A, 0x0B, 0xC9,
    0xF9, 0x63, 0x67, 0x43, 0x2D, 0xC7, 0x7D, 0x07,
    0x60, 0x89, 0xD1, 0xCC, 0xE7, 0x94, 0x77, 0x74,
    0x9B, 0x7E, 0xD7, 0xE6, 0xFF, 0xBB, 0x68, 0x14,
    0x1E, 0xA3, 0x25, 0xDE, 0x3A, 0xA3, 0x54, 0x7B,
    0x87, 0x9D, 0x50, 0xCA, 0x27, 0xC3, 0xA4, 0x50,
    0x91, 0x27, 0xD4, 0xB0, 0x82, 0x41, 0x97, 0x79,
    0x94, 0x82, 0xAC, 0xC7, 0x8E, 0xA5, 0x4E, 0xAA,
    0x78, 0x9E, 0xE0, 0x42, 0xBA, 0x28, 0xEA, 0xB7,
    0x74, 0xAD, 0x35, 0xDA, 0x92, 0x60, 0x7E, 0xD2,
    0x0E, 0xB9, 0x24, 0x5E, 0x39, 0x4F, 0x5E, 0x63,
    0x09, 0xB5, 0xFA, 0xBF, 0xF1, 0x22, 0x55, 0x1C,
    0xE2, 0x25, 0xDB, 0xC5, 0xD8, 0x50, 0x03, 0x98,
    0xC4, 0xAC, 0x2E, 0x11, 0xB4, 0x38, 0x4D, 0xD0,
    0xB9, 0xFC, 0x2D, 0x3C, 0x08, 0x04, 0x5A, 0xEF,
    0xCE, 0x32, 0xFB, 0x4C, 0x92, 0x1E, 0x4B, 0xFB,
    0x1A, 0xD0, 0xE2, 0x3E, 0xDA, 0x6E, 0x7C, 0x4D,
    0x56, 0xC3, 0x3F, 0x42, 0xB1, 0x3A, 0x23, 0x4D,
    0x6E, 0x84, 0x56, 0x68, 0xF4, 0x0E, 0x03, 0x64,
    0xD0, 0xA9, 0x92, 0x2F, 0x8B, 0xBC, 0x39, 0x9C,
    0xAC, 0x09, 0x5E, 0xEE, 0xE5, 0x97, 0xBF, 0xA5,
    0xCE, 0xFA, 0x28, 0x2C, 0x6D, 0x4F, 0xEF, 0x77,
    0xAA, 0x1B, 0x79, 0x8E, 0x97, 0xB4, 0xC3, 0xF4};

    static byte Table2[] = {
    0xB7, 0x75, 0x81, 0xD5, 0xDC, 0xCA, 0xDE, 0x66,
    0x23, 0xDF, 0x15, 0x26, 0x62, 0xD1, 0x83, 0x77,
    0xE3, 0x97, 0x76, 0xAF, 0xE9, 0xC3, 0x6B, 0x8E,
    0xDA, 0xB0, 0x6E, 0xBF, 0x2B, 0xF1, 0x19, 0xB4,
    0x95, 0x34, 0x48, 0xE4, 0x37, 0x94, 0x5D, 0x7B,
    0x36, 0x5F, 0x65, 0x53, 0x07, 0xE2, 0x89, 0x11,
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    0xCD, 0x2E, 0xFF, 0xC4, 0x5B, 0xA0, 0xAE, 0xCC,
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    0x29, 0x91, 0xF0, 0x02, 0x18, 0x3A, 0x4E, 0x7C};

    static byte Table3[] = {
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  164. Readme -- UPDATED! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This source package does two things.

    a) It contains code to perform the css authentication protocol,
    allowing locked sectors on the DVD disc to be accessed.

    This also allows us to read the disc key and title keys.

    b) It contains an implementation of the css decryption algorithm,
    so that we can watch DVD's.

    Also included are some test programs to wrarp around the above code
    blocks so that something usefule can be performed.

    The programs included are tstdvd, reset, dvdinfo and css-cat.

    tstdvd can be used to unlock the disc (saving the disk key) and
    to extract the title keys. usage is:

    reset /path/to/dvd/device

    This will reset all AGIDs that the drive has given out. This
    can sometimes be useful when something goes wrong.

    tstdvd /path/to/dvd/device

    This will authenticate the device and save the disk key into
    a file in the current directory called "disk-key".

    (mount the dvd somewhere)

    tstdvd /path/to/dvd/device /mount/path/video_ts/vts_01_1.vob

    This will reauthenticate and then read the title key for
    the chosen vob file, saving it in a file in the current
    directoy called "title-key".

    Do the above title key extraction for each title on the disc,
    renaming the title-key files to title1-key, title2-key etc.

    dvdinfo /path/to/dvd/device

    Displays some info from the physical and copyright pages. This
    includes the region limits on the disc, its encryption status,
    and the authentication status.

    css-cat [-t title-no] [-m mpeg-audio-no ] [-vPpm12345678] vob_file

    This will decrypt the selected vob file and send to stdout. It
    needs the files "disk-key" and "titleX-key" to be in the current
    directory. The default title-no is one, so by default it will look
    for "title1-key".

    The options select what will be sent to stdout. By default, nothing
    will. The m option is not yet coded, the v option selects video, the
    numbers select the appropriate AC3 stream.
    It will normally extract the selected stream from the enclosing
    Program stream, thus giving an elemental stream. However if the K option
    (or more than one stream) is selected then the data will be left inside
    the PES packets, allowing a subsequent demux program to determine the
    data type.

    I tend to use:

    cat /dvd/video_ts/vts_01_[1-9].vob|css-cat -v1P -|mpeg2player -vob -f -

    NOTE: To use the above you need to have a kernel which incorporates the
    DVD ioctls. This can either be the original patch by Andrew Veliath
    or Jens Axboe's patches. If using Andrews versio of the patches,
    you'll have to change the use of .key in the sources to .key1/.key2
    (the places are quite easy to find).

    Jens site is www.kernel.dk

    Changes:
    Patches have been applied to use the OpenBSD headers, so maybe it'll
    work.

    There a some more keys included. It should now be able to decrypt
    all titles currently on the market. I think the last two keys can
    be removed. Someone with 'The Matrix' please test and get back to
    me.

    Mpeg audio streams should now be extractable when filtering, this is
    untested.

    It now copes with System headers in the Pack layer (those 0x000001bb
    start codes).

    The command line options have changed between the last version and
    this one - pay attention.

  165. tstdvd.c -- UPDATED! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    /*
    * tstdvd.c
    *
    * Example program showing usage of DVD CSS ioctls
    *
    * Copyright (C) 1999 Andrew T. Veliath
    * See http://www.rpi.edu/~veliaa/linux-dvd for more info.
    */

    /*
    * If supplied with one parameter it gets the disk key and
    * saves it to a file. If supplied with a second parameter
    * (a LBA) then it gets the title key for the supplied LBA.
    *
    * When getting the disk key, only the first 10 bytes of it
    * are printed. The whole key is written to the file.
    */

    #include
    #include
    #include
    #include
    #include
    #include
    #include
    #include
    #include
    #include
    #include
    #if defined(__OpenBSD__)
    # include
    #elif defined(__linux__)
    # include
    #else
    # error "Need the DVD ioctls"
    #endif
    #include "css-auth.h"

    byte Challenge[10];
    struct block Key1;
    struct block Key2;
    struct block KeyCheck;
    byte DiscKey[10];
    int varient = -1;

    void print_challenge(const byte *chal)
    {
    int i;

    for (i = 0; i type) {
    /* Host data receive (host changes state) */
    case DVD_LU_SEND_AGID:
    printf("AGID %d\n", ai->lsa.agid);
    ai->type = DVD_HOST_SEND_CHALLENGE;
    break;

    case DVD_LU_SEND_KEY1:
    printf("LU sent key1: "); print_key(ai->lsk.key); printf("\n");
    if (!authenticate_drive(ai->lsk.key)) {
    ai->type = DVD_AUTH_FAILURE;
    return -EINVAL;
    }
    ai->type = DVD_LU_SEND_CHALLENGE;
    break;

    case DVD_LU_SEND_CHALLENGE:
    for (i = 0; i hsc.chal[9-i];
    printf("LU sent challenge: "); print_challenge(Challenge); printf("\n");
    CryptKey2(varient, Challenge, &Key2);
    ai->type = DVD_HOST_SEND_KEY2;
    break;

    /* Host data send */
    case DVD_HOST_SEND_CHALLENGE:
    for (i = 0; i hsc.chal[9-i] = Challenge[i];
    printf("Host sending challenge: "); print_challenge(Challenge); printf("\n");
    /* Returning data, let LU change state */
    break;

    case DVD_HOST_SEND_KEY2:
    for (i = 0; i hsk.key[4-i] = Key2.b[i];
    printf("Host sending key 2: "); print_key(Key2.b); printf("\n");
    /* Returning data, let LU change state */
    break;

    default:
    printf("Got invalid state %d\n", ai->type);
    return -EINVAL;
    }

    return 0;
    }

    int authenticate(int fd, int title, int lba)
    {
    dvd_authinfo ai;
    dvd_struct dvds;
    int i, rv, tries, agid;

    memset(&ai, 0, sizeof (ai));
    memset(&dvds, 0, sizeof (dvds));

    GetASF(fd);

    /* Init sequence, request AGID */
    for (tries = 1, rv = -1; rv == -1 && tries [title_path]\n");
    exit (1);
    }
    device = av[1];
    fd = open(device, O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK);
    if (fd 0) {
    perror(device);
    exit(1);
    }
    if (ac == 3) {
    lba = path_to_lba(av[2]);
    title = 1;
    }
    authenticate(fd, title, lba);
    close(fd);

    return 0;
    }

  166. Re:Legality of the software? by logicTrAp · · Score: 2

    As I understand it, however, much of the code in the "Linux DVD" codebase has been generated by disassembling Windows code and converting to C. This is pretty shady at best from a legal perspective. Anyone care to clear this up?

  167. mirrors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The software (source as well as binaries) offered on this site can be freely redistributed. It was written by authors who expressly permitted and encourage the redistribution of this software and information. The purpose of this software is not, I repeat not illegal copying of DVD disks. It is meant to provide information neccesary to be able to program a DVD player for Linux. To do this, the CSS system needs to be incorporated in the player. Recently the (very weak) content scrambling system was deciphered, freeing the way for a Linux DVD player. The CSS system is not a copy protection system, since it does not prevent copying of the disk. Writing information about the way a certain protection scheme functions is completely legal. The source code and binaries on this site are completely legal too, since they contain no code from the DVD consortium or one of its members. The sources and programs on this site are purely written by 3rd parties using clean-room reverse engineering methods, which is, again, completely legal. This software and information below make it possible for people who legally obtained their DVD movies to view them on their Linux systems.

    Attention

    www.rhythm.cx was hosting a list of mirrors for these files. That list of mirrors has been replaced with a page reading "This site has been taken down for legal reasons." Here's what the maintainer put on the site the day it was shut down:

    NOTE (Thu, Nov 11, 12:17pm EST): I've recently been informed that a law firm which is likely to be one that would try get these mirrors taken down has been visiting this mirror site as well as others. With that said, there is a possibility that I may have to remove this site in the near future because like everyone else, I can't afford to go to court to fight it. Luckly, it seems fairly unlikely that any law firm will ever be able to get rid of all these mirrors at this point (there are currently 41 in 8 different countries and this list is growing every day). However, I have only seen very few mirror _lists_ like this one anyplace. If anyone has the resources, it might be wise to mirror this list of mirrors as well so that the right people will still know that these mirrors exist.

    UPDATE: Here is a 2600 story with more details on how rhythm.cx was shut down.

    I have taken it upon myself to mirror the mirrors. So until such time as the hounds of hell come a-knocking at my door, I present for you this list:


    Page last updated: Sat, Nov 13, 4:50pm EST

    Current Mirrors
    (Numbers are only for the maintainer's convenience)

    1. http://www.humpin.org/decss/DeCSS.zip and http://www.humpin.org/decss/decss.tar.gz

    2. http://home.worldonline.dk/~ andersa/download/DeCSS.zip
    3. http://douglas.min.net/~drw/css-auth/
    4. http://www.devzero.org/freecss.html
    5. http://home.t-online.de/home/skinn er01/decss.zip
    6. http://www.chello.nl/~f .vanwaveren/css-auth/css-auth.tar.gz
    7. http://www.geociti es.com/ResearchTriangle/Campus/8877/index.html
    8. http://www.angelfire.com/mt/popefelix/
    9. http://www.vexed.net/CSS
    10. http://members.brabant.chello.nl/~j.vr eeken/
    11. http://gullii.stu.rpi.edu/dvd/files/D eCSS.zip and http://gullii.stu.rpi.edu/dvd/f iles/css-auth.tar.gz
    12. http://www.dvd.eavy.de/css-auth.tar.gz and http://www.dvd.eavy.de/DeCSS.zip
    13. http://www.eavy.net/stuff/dvd/css-aut h.tar.gz and http://www.eavy.net/stuff/dvd/DeCSS.zip
    14. http://www.dynamsol.com/satanix/DeCSS.zip
    15. http://frozenlinux.com/civ/decss/
    16. http://www.unitycode.org/
    17. http://dirtass.beyatch.net/decss.zip
    18. http://sharedlib.org/decss.zip
    19. http://decss.tripod.com/index.html
    20. http://www.free-dvd.org.lu/
    21. http://www.angelfire.com/in2/mirror/
    22. http://mclaughlin.orange.ca.us/~andrew/
    23. http://www.dynamsol.com/satanix/css -auth.tar.gz
    24. http://batman.jytol.fi/~vuori/dvd/
    25. http://www.zpok.demon.co.uk/deCSS/CSS.ht ml
    26. http://plato.nebulanet.net:88/css/
    27. ftp://alma.dhs.org/pub/DVD/
    28. http://www.d.umn.edu/~dchan/css/
    29. http://www.logorrhea.com/main.html
    30. http://people.delphi.com/salfter/LiVi d.tar.gz
    31. http://www.theresistance.net/files.html
    32. ftp://193.219.56.32/pub/dvd/LiVi d.CVS-11.06.tar.gz and ftp://193.219.56. 32/pub/dvd/LiVid.CVS-11.06.css-stuff-only.tar.gz
    33. http://merlin.keble.ox.ac.uk/~a drian/css/index.html
    34. http://www.dvd-copy.com/
    35. http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/dvd/css /css-auth.tar.gz and http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/dvd/css/DeCSS .zip
    36. http://www.sent.freeserve.co.uk/css -auth.tar.gz and http://www.sent.freeserve.co.uk/DeCSS.zip
    37. http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/jvz/
    38. http://joe.to/storage/files/decss.zip
    39. ftp://ftp.firehead.org/pub/
    40. http://www.lemuria.org/DeCSS/
    41. http://members.theglobe.com/avoiderm an/dvd.htm
    42. http://remco.xgov.net/dvd/
    43. http://www.able-towers.com/~flow/
    44. ftp://dvd:dvd@206.98.63.136
    45. http://www.twistedlogic.com/htm l/tl_archive_map.htm
    46. ftp://mikpos.dyndns.org/pub/cssdvd.zip
    47. http://mu nitions.vipul.net/software/algorithms/streamcipher s/decss.tar.gz
    48. http:/ /munitions.polkaroo.net/software/algorithms/stream ciphers/decss.tar.gz
    49. http://muni tions.dyn.org/software/algorithms/streamciphers/de css.tar.gz
    50. http://mun itions.cifs.org/software/algorithms/streamciphers/ decss.tar.gz
    51. http://uk1. munitions.net/software/algorithms/streamciphers/de css.tar.gz

    This site contains some good technical documentation as well as more source code that the DVD consorium's lawyers would rather you not see:
    http://crypto.gq.nu/


    Semi-broken Mirrors
    (These mirrors sometimes work and sometimes don't)
    ftp://134.173.94.44/

    Broken Mirrors
    (These are listed here for the notification of the people who run them)
    http://members.theglobe.com/avoiderman/css-auth.ta r.gz

    Mirrors shut down by The Man
    (A moment of silence, please.)
    http://www.rhythm.cx/dvd/css-auth.tar.gz and http://www.rhythm.cx/dvd/DeCSS.zip
    http://dvdcracked.tvheaven.com/index.html
  168. 000578.html by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    [Livid-dev] css Anonymous nobody@replay.com
    Mon, 25 Oct 1999 07:01:58 +0200 (CEST)

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  169. Mirrors 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.humpin.org/decss/DeCSS.zip and http://www.humpin.org/decss/decss.tar.gz

    http://home.worldonline.dk/~ andersa/download/DeCSS.zip

    http://douglas.min.net/~drw/css-auth/

    http://www.devzero.org/freecss.html

    http://home.t-online.de/home/skinn er01/decss.zip

    http://www.chello.nl/~f .vanwaveren/css-auth/css-auth.tar.gz

    http://www.geociti es.com/ResearchTriangle/Campus/8877/index.html

    http://www.angelfire.com/mt/popefelix/

    http://www.vexed.net/CSS

    http://members.brabant.chello.nl/~j.vr eeken/

    http://gullii.stu.rpi.edu/dvd/files/D eCSS.zip and http://gullii.stu.rpi.edu/dvd/f iles/css-auth.tar.gz

    http://www.dvd.eavy.de/css-auth.tar.gz and http://www.dvd.eavy.de/DeCSS.zip

    http://www.eavy.net/stuff/dvd/css-aut h.tar.gz and http://www.eavy.net/stuff/dvd/DeCSS.zip

    http://www.dynamsol.com/satanix/DeCSS.zip

    http://frozenlinux.com/civ/decss/

    http://www.unitycode.org/

    http://dirtass.beyatch.net/decss.zip

    http://sharedlib.org/decss.zip

    http://decss.tripod.com/index.html

    http://www.free-dvd.org.lu/

    http://www.angelfire.com/in2/mirror/

    http://mclaughlin.orange.ca.us/~andrew/

    http://www.dynamsol.com/satanix/css -auth.tar.gz

    http://batman.jytol.fi/~vuori/dvd/

    http://www.zpok.demon.co.uk/deCSS/CSS.ht ml

    http://plato.nebulanet.net:88/css/

    ftp://alma.dhs.org/pub/DVD/

    http://www.d.umn.edu/~dchan/css/

    http://www.logorrhea.com/main.html

    http://people.delphi.com/salfter/LiVi d.tar.gz

    http://www.theresistance.net/files.html

    ftp://193.219.56.32/pub/dvd/LiVi d.CVS-11.06.tar.gz and ftp://193.219.56. 32/pub/dvd/LiVid.CVS-11.06.css-stuff-only.tar.gz

    http://merlin.keble.ox.ac.uk/~a drian/css/index.html

    http://www.dvd-copy.com/

    http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/dvd/css /css-auth.tar.gz and http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/dvd/css/DeCSS .zip

    http://www.sent.freeserve.co.uk/css -auth.tar.gz and http://www.sent.freeserve.co.uk/DeCSS.zip

    http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/jvz/

    http://joe.to/storage/files/decss.zip

    ftp://ftp.firehead.org/pub/

    http://www.lemuria.org/DeCSS/

    http://members.theglobe.com/avoiderm an/dvd.htm

    http://remco.xgov.net/dvd/

    http://www.able-towers.com/~flow/

    ftp://dvd:dvd@206.98.63.136

    http://www.twistedlogic.com/htm l/tl_archive_map.htm

    ftp://mikpos.dyndns.org/pub/cssdvd.zip

    http://mu nitions.vipul.net/software/algorithms/streamcipher s/decss.tar.gz

    http:/ /munitions.polkaroo.net/software/algorithms/stream ciphers/decss.tar.gz

    http://muni tions.dyn.org/software/algorithms/streamciphers/de css.tar.gz

    http://mun itions.cifs.org/software/algorithms/streamciphers/ decss.tar.gz

    http://uk1. munitions.net/software/algorithms/streamciphers/de css.tar.gz

    This site contains some good technical documentation as well as more source code that the DVD consorium's lawyers would rather you not see:
    http://crypto.gq.nu/


    Semi-broken Mirrors
    (These mirrors sometimes work and sometimes don't)
    ftp://134.173.94.44/

    Broken Mirrors
    (These are listed here for the notification of the people who run them)
    http://members.theglobe.com/avoiderman/css-auth.ta r.gz

    Mirrors shut down by The Man
    (A moment of silence, please.)
    http://www.rhythm.cx/dvd/css-auth.tar.gz and http://www.rhythm.cx/dvd/DeCSS.zip
    http://dvdcracked.tvheaven.com/index.html

  170. 000579.html by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    [Livid-dev] css Adam Pennington adamp+@andrew.cmu.edu
    25 Oct 1999 03:52:26 -0400

    If this is what I think this is, cool! Everything is now out in the open to build a DVD player... At least one without menus... If I can find the time, I will attempt the Linux port. adam

  171. Which DVD Drive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Excellent! Now that I can watch dvd in linux, I'm all set to buy a dvd drive. Now my question, which drive should I buy? Will any drive work, or do I need specific drives that have linux drivers? Also, which ones are good value for money, and which ones suck? thx for the clues!

    1. Re:Which DVD Drive? by IceFox · · Score: 3

      The HiVal ones that suck int he disk are good. :) Just about any drive will work. As long as it can be seen as a normal drive it will work fine (i.e. you should ahve no problems with a perticular DVD drive)

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    2. Re:Which DVD Drive? by Paul+Jakma · · Score: 1

      what about SCSI DVD drives? Do they exist? And if so, do they work with linux, and which would you recommend?

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      I use Friend/Foe + mod-point modifiers as a karma/reputation system.
    3. Re:Which DVD Drive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I have a 6x Pioneer DVD drive that works pretty well. I especially like the slot loading mechanism (like the ones they have on car cd players). They also have them in the usual tray variety. I had a few problems where it would lock up when I tried to rip cds, but a firmware update seems to have cleared that up. They have a 10x drive out now, and i think i saw it running for around $100 at some places. You should definitely consider it, or the 6x if you want something a little less expensive.

      Unless you have a win/linux dual boot though, you might want to hold off a bit longer. This doesn't sound like it's ready for prime time just yet. This is definitely coming though, so you won't be tied to microsquish for all time just to watch movies. Here's hoping I won't have to reboot just to watch my Matrix DVD anymore very soon. Now if they'd just finish up XFree86 4, I could get some decent framerates in q3test on my tnt :)

  172. Mirrors 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.angelfire.com/mt/popefelix/

    http://www.vexed.net/CSS

    http://members.brabant.chello.nl/~j.vr eeken/

    http://gullii.stu.rpi.edu/dvd/files/D eCSS.zip and http://gullii.stu.rpi.edu/dvd/f iles/css-auth.tar.gz

    http://www.dvd.eavy.de/css-auth.tar.gz and http://www.dvd.eavy.de/DeCSS.zip

    http://www.eavy.net/stuff/dvd/css-aut h.tar.gz and http://www.eavy.net/stuff/dvd/DeCSS.zip

    http://www.dynamsol.com/satanix/DeCSS.zip

    http://frozenlinux.com/civ/decss/

    http://www.unitycode.org/

    http://dirtass.beyatch.net/decss.zip

    http://sharedlib.org/decss.zip

    http://decss.tripod.com/index.html

    http://www.free-dvd.org.lu/

    http://www.angelfire.com/in2/mirror/

    http://mclaughlin.orange.ca.us/~andrew/

    http://www.dynamsol.com/satanix/css -auth.tar.gz

    http://batman.jytol.fi/~vuori/dvd/

    http://www.zpok.demon.co.uk/deCSS/CSS.ht ml

    http://plato.nebulanet.net:88/css/

    ftp://alma.dhs.org/pub/DVD/

    http://www.d.umn.edu/~dchan/css/

    http://www.logorrhea.com/main.html

    http://people.delphi.com/salfter/LiVi d.tar.gz

    http://www.theresistance.net/files.html

    ftp://193.219.56.32/pub/dvd/LiVi d.CVS-11.06.tar.gz and ftp://193.219.56. 32/pub/dvd/LiVid.CVS-11.06.css-stuff-only.tar.gz

    http://merlin.keble.ox.ac.uk/~a drian/css/index.html

    http://www.dvd-copy.com/

    http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/dvd/css /css-auth.tar.gz and http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/dvd/css/DeCSS .zip

    http://www.sent.freeserve.co.uk/css -auth.tar.gz and http://www.sent.freeserve.co.uk/DeCSS.zip

    http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/jvz/

    http://joe.to/storage/files/decss.zip

    ftp://ftp.firehead.org/pub/

    http://www.lemuria.org/DeCSS/

    http://members.theglobe.com/avoiderm an/dvd.htm

    http://remco.xgov.net/dvd/

    http://www.able-towers.com/~flow/

    ftp://dvd:dvd@206.98.63.136

    http://www.twistedlogic.com/htm l/tl_archive_map.htm

    ftp://mikpos.dyndns.org/pub/cssdvd.zip

    http://mu nitions.vipul.net/software/algorithms/streamcipher s/decss.tar.gz

    http:/ /munitions.polkaroo.net/software/algorithms/stream ciphers/decss.tar.gz

    http://muni tions.dyn.org/software/algorithms/streamciphers/de css.tar.gz

    http://mun itions.cifs.org/software/algorithms/streamciphers/ decss.tar.gz

    http://uk1. munitions.net/software/algorithms/streamciphers/de css.tar.gz

    This site contains some good technical documentation as well as more source code that the DVD consorium's lawyers would rather you not see:
    http://crypto.gq.nu/


    Semi-broken Mirrors
    (These mirrors sometimes work and sometimes don't)
    ftp://134.173.94.44/

    Broken Mirrors
    (These are listed here for the notification of the people who run them)
    http://members.theglobe.com/avoiderman/css-auth.ta r.gz

    Mirrors shut down by The Man
    (A moment of silence, please.)
    http://www.rhythm.cx/dvd/css-auth.tar.gz and http://www.rhythm.cx/dvd/DeCSS.zip
    http://dvdcracked.tvheaven.com/index.html

  173. 000580.html by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    [Livid-dev] css Dave dave@pakled.clubnet.org
    Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:08:28 -0700 (PWT)

    I hate to be a party-pooper, but any dimwit can tell this came from NT, on VC++.. does the open source community have the right to use this code? And more importantly, even if we did, to bring up -another- old issue, is creating an open-sourced CSS cracking algorithm a wise idea? Those pesky moral issues aside, I must say, this is damn cool. :) Dave Houston "There's a spoon in this chili!" On 25 Oct 1999, Adam Pennington wrote: > If this is what I think this is, cool! Everything is now out in the > open to build a DVD player... At least one without menus... If I can > find the time, I will attempt the Linux port. >>> adam >>>> _______________________________________________ > Livid-dev maillist - Livid-dev@livid.on.openprojects.net > http://livid.on.openpro jects.net/mailman/listinfo/livid-dev >

  174. mpeg2player by Squeeze+Truck · · Score: 1
    The mpeg2player that the docs talk about is conspicuously missing. I got mpeg2play from mpeg.org, but it doesn't recognize the outputted .vob file as a data stream. Also, the arguments are different, so I suspect they're probably different programs.


    BTW, Dark City cracked, Akira Kurosawa's "Ran" did not.

    --

    "Reactionaries must be deprived of the right to voice their opinions; only the people have that right." - Mao

    1. Re:mpeg2player by voidptr · · Score: 4

      The actual name of the package is nist. It's here or in the LIVID cvs server. I recommend the binary version from the web page, it's a bit difficult to compile right now.

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      This .sig for unofficial government use only. Official use subject to $500 fine.
  175. 000581.html by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    [Livid-dev] css Derek Fawcus derek@spider.com
    Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:35:54 +0100

    --8GpibOaaTibBMecb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 01:08:28AM -0700, Dave wrote: >=20 > I hate to be a party-pooper, but any dimwit can tell this came from NT, on > VC++.. does the open source community have the right to use this code? Actually this looks a lot like the source to DeCSS. Have a look at CSSauth.cpp and compare it to my css-auth package. You'll see it's basically my code, as such this whole source package has to be considered as being under the GPL. The code in css/CSSscramble.cpp is the stream decrypting code. I guessed my slow speed wrt to releasing the source for the decrypt code would result in someone else posting the code. So enjoy it. This is an old version and won't decrypt certain W.B. titles. However there is a valid key key and offset included in that code (the offset is hidden in css/CSSkeysNt.cpp:CSSgetdiskkey() and has the value of 0x235 and as such can be used to brute force the other valid keys from a disk. If you examine the two algorithms (auth and decryt) you'll see that they are both basically the same: LFSR1 -> [switchable invert] --\ \ + (Adder) -> Pseudo random bit stream / LFSR2 -> [switchable invert] --/ The two LFSR's are (I belive) the same for both algorithms, but have a different initialiser. This bit stream is then used in different ways in the two sets of code. There are 4 routines which use the above core algorithm, and each one uses a different setting for the switchable inverts. The hashing stages at the end of the two title key decryption stages are very similar (maybe identical) to the rounds in the authentication routine. i.e. there are two stages to the key decryption here each using two rounds, whereas the authentication code uses 6 rounds. At the moment I'm working at combining the two code blocks and eliminating some look ups. I've already removed one table lookup in the stream decryt code - another may follow. One other thing to note - the code posted is valid on little endian machines only. DF --=20 Derek Fawcus derek@spide= r.com Spider Software Ltd. +44 (0) 131 475= 7034 PGP/GnuPG Keys available --8GpibOaaTibBMecb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE4FFy1Lssaiz6NyS8RAmYLAJ9houNFExXEXHwtGLLv0+ B1NoVzhACdGsIg rqHHtoRlrd0JshUgux+W0d0= =Oxuj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8GpibOaaTibBMecb--

  176. Re:Sound and Video by IceFox · · Score: 1

    yah just make sure to read the comments on the bottom.

    --
    Do you changes clothes while making the "chee-chee-cha-cha-choh" transformation sound?
  177. Re:Whoa boy... by Money__ · · Score: 1
    Someone put it like this: Is it theft, if I steal it and you have nothing less?

    A: Yes. It's the law. You may choose to not follow it and that's ok. Just as long as you're willing to suffer the ramifications. If you don't agree with the law, lobby your Congressman and ask to have it changed. Untill then, shut up and sit down.

    I believe that the good movies are not there to make money, and the satisfaction that their movies are appreciated would justify their work. This says nothing about movies produced to make money, however.

    They are ALL MADE TO RECOUP THE MONEY SPENT!

    And with a little luck make a little money to compensate the risk taken in making it in the first place. Under current IP law, thay have the right to recoup there investment in a fair marketplace. Nobody is in the industry of making films "for the love of the art form" and if they're telling you that, they are just trying to sell you on there property.

  178. DVD on computer vs on TV by Robotech_Master · · Score: 1

    I do both! I run a line out of my DVD decoder card in the back of my computer to my TV set. At the moment, I can only do this when I'm in Windows mode, but I'm hoping that'll change soon. I'll swap out my Hollywood Plus for a Linux-compatible card when one becomes available.

    --
    Editor Emeritus and Senior Writer, TeleRead.org
  179. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by Mawbid · · Score: 1
    • It crashes a lot for a lot of people (yeah, I know it runs ok for some people; that's not enough)
    • The back button usually doesn't take you to the right part of the page. This has caused me to develop a strange browsing style that relies heavily on "open link in new window".
    • After selecting from a drop-down box, it won't accept keystrokes until you focus on another window and then on netscape again.
    These are real problems and I consider them big ones because they annoy the hell out of me. There are other annoyances, but they're minor. If these three things were cleared up, I'd consider netscape a decent browser. I define a decent product as one that doesn't necessarily impress me, but does what it claims to without annoying me.
    --
    --
    Fuck the system? Nah, you might catch something.
  180. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by perky · · Score: 2

    IBM have not ported Viavoice to Linux. They have the engine binaries and an SDK available. it is not supported, and since linux sound support is so bad, even if you did manage to build a working task, and managed to get it to talk to the engine, and managed to make a front end, you'd be lucky to get it working on anything apart from a particular spec of machine. Typing is, however, still faster.

    --
    "The new wave is not value-added; it's garbage-subtracted" - Esther Dyson, Dec 1994
  181. Congratulations! by gregstoll · · Score: 1

    Way to go, guys! Haven't actually tried it yet, but based on the comments above, it looks good! Now maybe I can finally convince my roommates that Linux is better than Windoze!

    1. Re:Congratulations! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Ha! That's funny. "Now that Linux can do something that Windows did a looong time ago, Linux is better". Of course it doesn't take a 600mhz machine in Windows to actually watch AND listen to a DVD so I guess Linux STILL comes up short.

  182. Re:We pay too much to be entertained by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The problem is not that people make money off of music and movies. The problem is that we pay them too much money to entertain us. And we give them too many awards and recognition.

    Is there a more cash rich, self awarding culture, than music and movies/tv? Now only do we reward an actor by seeing their movies and making sure they get paid 8mill a film, we also give them numerous awards for that film.

    We pay pro football, basketball, and baseball players too much. All to be entertained. Would I be any less entertained if every player on a bench only made 100k a year? No, because that's damn good money and they should all be happy for it.

    Would I be less entertained if Tom Hanks got paid 50k for his next movie? He's still a good actor. But, if that money isn't enough for him, I'm sure there are a 1000 other male actors who would do just as good a job (just not have the face recognition. They are probably wonderful actors, just have not gotten that one big break. Well, I say the studios should spread around their top roles a bit more and let the unknown get more chances. They will be rewarded with lower payrolls to the actors, and hopefully, as a consumer, I'll get rewarded with lower ticket prices and more diversified actors/actresses.

    I've only watched 2 movies at the theatre this year, The Matrix, and Phantom Menance. I loved the first, tolerated the second. There is too much crap out there. I plan on watching the Sixth Sense at a dollar show. The Blair Witch Project is not really the type of film I enjoy so I did not see it at the theatre.

    Everything is either boom or bust in the industry. My suggestion is, start casting newer people and give them the chance to be great actors. Pay them less money. Have lower budgets. Charges less for the tickets. Heck, it would be great if tickets for movies were more based upon demand. Let expensive movies have $12 tickets, and lower budget ones have $3.

    Take the Blair Witch Project. Cast of unknowns, low budget, unique style. A real winner at the box office. A movie like this should not come around once a decade. There should be several every year.

    We vote with our dollars as all of you know. I'd rather be able to vote more often, with fewer dollars per vote. I'd rather an athelte or an actor make good money, and get recognized for their talent with awards and championships, not million dollar payoffs.

    I get nearly as much entertainment watching a Batman, Dragonball Z, or Pokemon cartoon as I do watching a movie (I'm 27). I'm sure Bruce Wayne isn't a billionaire because I watch him whenever I can.

  183. Legality of the software? by Burnon · · Score: 1

    I noticed that the author mentioned that some of the DVD formats had to be cracked. Does this mean that the software is infringing on someone's IP?

    1. Re:Legality of the software? by Burnon · · Score: 1

      I guess I should follow this up with another question: Can anyone elaborate on the licensing required for DVD?

    2. Re:Legality of the software? by IceFox · · Score: 4

      The stuff is trade secret and not patented. This is where the fuzzy line comes into play. It doesn't need to be cracked then technicly, just figured out.

      --
      Do you changes clothes while making the "chee-chee-cha-cha-choh" transformation sound?
    3. Re:Legality of the software? by Burnon · · Score: 1

      Cool. I guess it's time to read up on 3DNow! and see if I can hack on this code a little. My K6-2 266 badly wants to play DVD!

  184. Re:VideoCD player for Linux by tietokone-olmi · · Score: 1
    I'd hack the SDLmpeg code myself to do this, if I knew something about the VCD format :-) After all, it's all in the headers, right? MpegTV (an evil capitalist piece of proprietary chicken poo) does this just by parsing the headers and separating the audio/video stream, IIRC.
    You would also need to support still images, menus, remote control functions, playlists, CD-DA tracks & other Video CD 2.0 (White Book) features. VCD is not just about MPEG files.

    Ah, I should be more careful with what I write. I meant to say "if I knew enough about the format of the MPEG data on the VCD".
    But the main function that most users want is the ability to watch low-resolution, low-bitrate pirated movies downloaded from w4r3z ftps. At least, if "most users" is limited to myself :-)

    Most of the "typical" VCD interactive content is like the stuff found on a DVD, IIUnderstoodC. Besides, even MpegTV only plays the MPEG video / audio data.

    Whatever. This looks like it could be an interesting project. Now if I could just find the time to do this kind of stuff...

  185. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 1

    Reductio ad absurdum is not a valid form of argument. Name calling and hand waving doesn't work either.

  186. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 2

    The main reason not to use Linux is that your company IS department is cramming Windows down your throat and your only choice is to not use a computer at all. Side reasons are specialized applications like SAS JMP or lack of drivers for hardware like ComputerBoards A/D stuff and Camille. I don't think your other reasons are very persuasive.

    CORBA, according to a lot of surveys is more widely used than COM. RAD in the form of Py/Tk/C is very slick, and there still isn't an editor anywhere that can do what Emacs can. Central registries are interesting in theory but the fact is that in real life they get corrupted by poorly written software leading to the help desk advising people "reinstall to fix any bugs you may have" or a system upgrade resulting in having to reinstall all applications as well. To me a the central registry in Windows leads to massive long term system instability and is one of the best reasons to run Linux.

    As far as GUIs crashing, I have far more Windows Explorer crashes than I ever get from XFree.

    Microsoft IE 5 is the best web browser currently available. But it also is a bloated pig in terms of system resources and does not fully adhere to standards, and I'd bet in the not too distant future will be surpassed by Mozilla. In the meantime Netscape is quite 'decent' thank you.

  187. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 1
    There seem to be two arguments of anticapitalism here. The most prominent is the copyright infringement inherent to various forms of duplication where the author is not paid. The other is the strict monopolization by distributors who overcharge to make profits. Both of these are fundamentally wrong, and by way of MP3's and digital movies, the people have been given the personal technology to avoid paying for things that are overpriced.

    ie. With 2,000% profit per CD in a single one-hit wonder CD, the incentive to compete does not exist, mostly because the recording industry has not only a monopoly on the distribution of music, but on the productions of the artists themselves. Why support SDMI? Because it will reduce copyright infringement? No -- because it can be used to scare artists into believing it's necessity, wherein the recording industry can sign off the artist's rights.

    On the flip side, at $20 a CD, the incentive to purchase that CD is lowered due to the ratio comparing the amount of money I have to the amount of money it costs, in comparison to the prospective entertainment value of that particular CD. Thus allowing morally justifiable (not necessarily legally justifiable) copyright infringement when the cost of the CD takes a large percentage of my money for a low prospective entertainment value, in comparison to the ratio profit over cost of the CD produced.

    (ps. the number of people defending monopolies here is really creepy!:))

  188. Re:What a bind by debrain · · Score: 1
    lol. I'm quite a jolly fellow, usually, but I do have a serious bone to pick with some people, yes. In this particular case, I've a bone to pick with bad movies that make a lot of money and people who defend those people on the grounds that's life, or more precisely, that's capitalism. I believe that if the Hollywood blockbuster wasn't guaranteed money, then more effort would be put into making good movies, rather than blockbusters.

    Copyright infringement is one way to not reward those making movies. But, then, people only really copy good movies. On the other hand, there are movies for which I'm not willing to pay for, but I am willing to watch. It's a fine line to draw. I believe that if I want to watch a movie, I don't think someone really has the right to keep me from watching one, or copying it. But the authors should also be rewarded for their work. But if it's in the grey area where I'm not willing to pay, but am still willing to watch, can the producer justify keeping it from me, wherein his forwards have been for nothing if I don't get to watch it. Catch 22. Muddy, yes. Valid, maybe.

    After a certain point, when I have "enough" money, I plan on giving the rest to charitable causes. In my (humble but loud) opinion, one should not be able to live off the interest of their own money -- I think people have some obligation to contribute positively to society. It's difficult to describe "too much" money; I see your clausal resolution:
    1) a lot of money is the point at which it is immoral 2) I expect to have a sufficient amount of money 3) one cannot draw the conclusion that I would have an immoral amount of money; there is richness in giving, more than richness in having, money aside. So it doesn't follow precisely.

    When I think about multimillionaire producers risking millions on a movie production, I try to keep in mind that this is just like me buying a car, at one extreme, me buying different fancy of ice cream at another extreme, in relative terms of value.

    There isn't as much comparison between the actions of the dictators and the exploitation of people by producers, so much as there is the same mentality. When you cannot be punished you tend not to care. This applies to those that commit copyright infringment as well, but the difference is that copyright infringement deprives the producer of the material of monetary awards. Taking money from multitudes, dumb enough to pay for it or not, and providing them a disservice by misleading them through hyped advertisements, or just overpricing art for the sake of profit, has some issues, as well.

    I'm glad that you responded casually, becoming more sensible than the prior response to that. Most debates start off the other way, regressing into asshole and loser namecalling. ;) In turn, I retract "asshole" -- I'm glad you followed up. Between almost every argument, there's middle ground. Usually grey ground, though, and often external to the initial statements. The area I'm arguing is gray in itself -- the arguments are not clear cut because there is no model to reflect it, and we balance the rights of the individuals, rights of the movie maker, abilities of individuals, morality of the individuals, morality of the profiteers, and the color of brown mud.

    Being positivist, I'd be inclined to argue towards what will be, rationalizing or not, and attempt to not only justify what will be, but find some solutions to the problems that are inherent with that. Most of the arguments I've seen have been along the lines of "you're wrong.", not looking at what will be, and how we will deal with it. A lot of the traditionalists stagnate the argument with issues of "what is" and "deserves in our current model". Society is pushing technology into the hands of people, and technology is providing people with choice, and in turn choice takes power away from the people I like least. :)

    Regards.

  189. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Money__ · · Score: 1
    Thus allowing morally justifiable (not necessarily legally justifiable) copyright infringement when the cost of the CD takes a large percentage of my money for a low prospective entertainment value, in comparison to the ratio profit over cost of the CD produced.

    Sorry kid, no free lunch.

    If you don't like the existing law, lobby your congressman to change them.

    Untill Then, shut up and sit down.

  190. Encryption=Slow?? by Vryl · · Score: 1
    Is it the case the strong encryption will make the decoders too slow? I know these things need fairly constant bitrates, and after reading Schniers interview, I think the 'best' algorithm he knew required 18clock cycles for a decrypt, is this likely to impact on how much encryption they can put on a stream?

    This is prolly not an issue for hardware decoders, but may be for software, can anyone comment?

    -- Reverend Vryl

  191. Re:Hardware Decoders... by Robotech_Master · · Score: 1
    I like my hardware decoder, even though it's Windows-only at the moment.
    • It puts less strain on my system--even though my 450 MHz/192 meg system can take it, I'm not terribly sanguine about how Windows will react while it's doing it. I like to do multiple things on my computer while I'm watching DVDs.
    • It lets me stream out to my TV, which is sitting right next to my monitor, so I can watch stuff and still noodle around on the Internet and Web and so forth without losing the screen real-estate. (It also lets me defeat Macrovision with Remote Selector and tape the movies off onto VHS to share with my folks.)
    • It lets me stream MPEG movies out to my TV set for viewing, too--I get each episode of Beast Machines a couple of days early that way.
    Software players simply can't give me that sort of functionality.

    Which isn't to say I wouldn't mind having a functional one in Linux, given that it would let me view movies without rebooting to Windows, but I plan to upgrade to a Linux-compatible player card as soon as one becomes available, and consign this Hollywood+ to Ebay.
    --
    Editor Emeritus and Senior Writer, TeleRead.org
  192. What the DVD How-To says by miracle69 · · Score: 4

    Since it took me several tries to get through - /. effect and all, I took the liberty of copying the howto from the aforementioned page.

    linuxdvd.webjump.com/"

    ************************************************ **
    This comes from the URL listed above and is not my
    own personal work.
    ************************************************ **
    To watch a DVD film in Linux you should follow the following steps (to complete the hack, as in challenge, not crack!).

    1) Get the DVD encryption kernel patch from http://atv.ne.mediaone.net/linux-dvd/ It is the file "linux-dvd-2.2.12.1.diff.gz"
    LOCAL MIRROR
    Insert it into the 2.2.13 kernel with the command "patch output.vob

    10) Play the Movie.
    mpeg2player -vob -f output.vob
    (use the option -na for no sound)
    (use the option -nv for no video)

    11) You can use ac3dec to just play the sound if you want.

    /*********************************************** ****************/

    Comments:

    You will not be able to play both video and sound in the current configuration unless you have some sort of a high end system. Min
    requirements would have to be a 350Mhz for just sound or Video. (At least 128MB mem) Min Req for both sound and video would have to
    be somewhere around a 600Mhz. The highest I have tested it on is a 450. The reasoning behind this is that the code is very very new and
    hasn't yet been optimized at all. I have no clue as to dual system.

    There is only one button, so to say. That is PLAY. Once you start a film you have to quit the program to end it! Even then, you have to
    have the vob files lined up. You could stream them from the cd-rom to the decoder to the player, but that would require a insane system.
    And mpeg2player doesn't do streaming yet ( | ), but we would all appreciate it if someone would simply submit a patch to the author that
    would allow it.

    There is no Menu functionality whatsoever. You can only view it in DVD size 769*239 (something like that). That is how big it is on the
    screen. You can't get Subtitles or any of the other fun stuff. You can't grab any or the sub picture or handle the navigation at all.

    At some point shortly (MAYBE) a lot of this will be merged together to form a software backend for the Linux DVD API. [link]. Thus
    you will be able to use a player (any player) to play the movie without having to do all of this. But that is a long way down the road to have
    this software work in full. The Linux-DVD API is being developed by the DVD hardware group who will be releasing hardware decoders
    around Christmas that support that API. And then you will not need this software at all. Other groups will also be coming out with a fully
    functional (and much faster compared to todays hack) software decoder within the turn of the millenium , that will support everything that a
    DVD does.

    Full screen does not work, nor can you resize the window.

    Please do not post silly comments to the mailing list. When this gets on slashdot please use the feedback on slashdot to handle any
    minor issues that you will have. Please do not badger the authors to make bug fixes or to do something. These people have been working
    at it for a long time and will do it when they see fit. PLEASE debate the ethical side of this on slashdot and NOT on the newsgroup.
    Thanks.

    For all those out there that thinks that this is a wonderful chance to copy the DVD, think again. Yes, you do have full access to the drive
    and you would be able just copy the files somewhere else. The only thing is that you need somewhere to copy it too. The only place to put
    it is on a DVD-RAM. And that is around $25 for a disk. The real DVD is $15 to $20. So it is quite silly to copy it to DVD-RAM. Also
    you simply copy the decrypted files you won't be able to run it as a DVD at ALL. You get funny video, or really weird shit, but none of the
    DVD features at all. This hack was NOT meant as a DVD-RIPPER. And it is almost the exact opposite of that. There are windows
    programs that are designed for that and those are the people that you should be yelling at about this.

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  193. To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 3
    It's quite inevitable that, as the exponentially exploding storage devices become suitable to encompass full motion video, and bandwidth opens enough to exploit isosyncronous transfers, the film industry will be in the place of the recording industry. Where would MP3's be just ten years ago when 3-4 of them filled a hard drive; is that not the ratios of movies now?

    And truth be told, this bothers me none. The multimillion dollar movie does not help my world at all -- rather the contrary, instead of promoting my health, education, or well being in any way, shape, or form, the Hollywood giants get bigger, the recording industry expands, the money eater eats money, and someone whose daddy was rich, gets richer. And what good are patents, when they directly inhibit a healthy economy by promoting stagnation and monopolies. What good are copyright laws that prevent modern Disney films from being referenced in a text book from which I wish to learn.

    What good is music I cannot listen to. And why must the recording industry insist on making people famous, despite their obvious lack of talent, and thereby truncating any forwards my society has fought for local, true, non-mass entertained culture. I say let MP3's thrive, and so will our choice in music, and let true popularity be shown.

    And of movies? Movies make money from commercials, food companies, advertising agencies, theatres, rental outlets, and royalties. How much money do they need? Good movies make good money, as they should. But I have been to countless bad movies, whereby my spent money has left me with only the return of bitterness or exhaustion, frustration or sadness. Whomever made the movie, makes their, in my opinion of the movie, undeserved dollar. Is this fair? No.

    Then what would be fair? I say let me copy DVD's, let me copy MP3's, let me have that moment of entertainment, without worrying about some rich person's pocket money. I have enough issues with money not to have to think about someone else's whenever I seek to be entertained.

    At some point of earning money, I conclude, the possession of more money is fundamentally wrong.

    1. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Fizgig · · Score: 1

      by way of MP3's and digital movies, the people have been given the personal technology to avoid paying for things that are overpriced

      You misunderstand. The way these help liberate people is because they can be their own distributors, not so you can distribute their wares without their permission. Big difference.

      And there are no monopolies on music and movie distrubution. Oligopolies maybe, but the barriers to entry aren't that great. Otherwise there wouldn't be any independent films or artists. But there are---hence no monopolies. You need to sit down with an econ textbook for a few hours and come back when you're done. I think a lot of this stuff would be a lot clearer. Or have you actually used this argument to convince a rational, educated adult of your viewpoint who didn't already agree with you?

    2. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 1
      Or have you actually used this argument to convince a rational, educated adult of your viewpoint who didn't already agree with you?
      Well, it's more difficult than fist anticipated to get the full extent of my position across, thoroughly and accurately, via Slashdot. But yes, I've sat down with a think tank and brought this issue up, and our conclusions have been posted. That's not to say that it was ubiquitous opinion; all posted alternative viewpoints were mentioned in discussion, but we found sufficient ground to support the position I gave. When it comes down to it, the precise answer you gave was the better solution to the norm:
      The way these help liberate people is because they can be their own distributors, not so you can distribute their wares without their permission. Big difference.
      The distribution model, and moral obligations of the consumer, are far better when there is no mass distributer with alterior incentives, such as shareholders. Not to say that this is the best solution; there are ramifications to direct distribution, but it does not generally fall into the category of industrial-sized problems. The key is in individual freedoms, consumer and producer wise, putting the distributor aside.

      Direct distribution models also promote community, and are somewhat buffered against many immoral interpretations by virtue of community. But then, morality is contextual, cultural generally, and there are issues therein that I won't get into.

      As for monopolies on music and movie distribution, they exist, especially in terms of actors who sign with a particular company, and thereafter they are monopolized by that company.

      I'm sorry that when I mentioned the fact that, people have been given the personal technology to avoid paying for things that are overpriced , I failed to mention the implications and potentials available to the producers of music and movies and want not. You could have made your statements without disagreeing with me. Mine was a normative statement (what is), yours is positive statement (what should be), mixing them does not work well, except in elegant solutions where they agree.

    3. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Fizgig · · Score: 1

      FYI, they succeeded. Copyrights now last 95 years.

    4. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 1
      Your proposed bargaining position is akin to that of a ransomer. Whether you choose to ransom people, goods, or IP is irrelevant. Ethically, you are not bargaining from a position of good faith. Certainly, from a practical perspective, an anonymous ransomer has a strong position, but certainly the position is not ethical.
      But isn't a distributor in a position of ransom when they say I can only view their media if and only if I pay the price they demand? I obviously have some value attached to the product, but what if my values do not extend to the price that it is being offered for. Some would say that I should forsake this entirely.

      Positive: I should be given the option to bargain. I have the "ace" in that I can copy a movie that is not fairly bargained. That encourages fair bargaining on their part, but leaves the onus on me to attend to the morality of the bargain. Not good.

      Normative: If I like a movie and do not want to pay the given predetermined highest margin by the distributor, I have the option to copy it. This (according to other posts) does not decrease the price of the movie. Thus, despite the fact that my monetary reward does not go to the distributor, indicative of my distaste with current prices, the prices do not change.

      The prices of bad movies do go down, I've noticed. Mostly due to lack of demand. But the price of good movies remain stagnant, largely.

      There is a difference between goods and IP, in that the distribution of IP is generally a good thing. Take education, libraries, engineering designs, photographs, etc., that enshrine our world with (relatively) good things. Would not the distribution of free entertainment benefit everyone? Without equal distribution, we provide artificial, albeit generally temporal, segregation. Equal treatment, or equal rights. Egalitarian or equalitarian. Do I have the right to see a movie, despite not being able to afford it? I have equal access to knowledge. I can use that knowledge to make money. What if I don't have the capacity to reap the benefits of knowledge. Am I to be segregated, and not able to see the movie? Normative: yes.

      Cultural standards would indicate that entertainment is exempt from the free distribution of beneficial IP. Because someone can make money off of it. I'm not so sure this is a good thing.

    5. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by IceFox · · Score: 1

      Just to clarify, you can't really copy the DVD using this, You can technicly copy the fiels, but after that you can't do much with them. The dedicated windows copiers are what do it.

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    6. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you apply the same logic to selecting a restaurant? "Hey, Mr. Chef! Feed me - and I'd damn well better like it!" Should I start refusing to pay for my Happy Meals just because McDonalds' french fries suck? Yes! I go to McDonalds, and buy a happy meal, k? I eat it, the fries suck, so I go bitch. I get my money back! Makes sense? Yes.

    7. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by nufan · · Score: 1

      I agree with you. However, if everyone agreed with you, then there would be no movies in the future since they cost so much to make. Music is a different story, and perhaps movies will be in the future (computers).

    8. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Reductio ad absurdum is not a valid form of argument.

      I for one can find no reductio in the post to which you were replying. I think the poster (leaving his vitriole aside for the moment) made several valid points, all of which you failed to address.

    9. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by seeken · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but copyright protection is already longer than 80 years.. I don't know where the 40 year number came from, I don't think it's ever been 40 exactly. I believe that it is 95 years for corporate copyrights now. Personal copyrigths are a certian amount of time after the death of the holder- I think it's 70 years. I think it was originaly 14 with an extension of 7...

      Mickey was to be freed in 2003, IIRC. They've extended his sentence another 20 years (recently- 1997 or 98, I think)

      Free Mickey!!

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    10. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 1
      40 years came from Discovery Channel -- was probably contextually Canadian. Yeesh -- yes, personal copyrights are long lived.

      As for Mickey, it's US $110 per second, as I recall.

    11. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Burnon · · Score: 1

      So what's the incentive for a film maker to produce a movie that's entertaining to you? Your good will? What's the incentive for big business to develop DVD technology if nobody chooses to pay for the media?

      If you kid yourself into believing otherwise, you're just a thief rationalizing away your crime because your not likely to be punished. Sure, some rich man is making big money off of a movie, but a horde of average Joes out there are being paid to work on the production, all the way down to the people who package and distribute the discs. You're stealing from those people too. Try rationalizing that away.

    12. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Woodblock · · Score: 1

      Stalin and his thugs killed as many in one winter on 'volunteer' work duty building subways for the 'public good' than are killed in an entire in the states by their neighbour. There is still no comparison. I would wager that more people died of simple lack of food, not state autorized starvation, in a year under Lenin than die each year of industrial accidents in the U.S.
      However, I digress. This is not the thread for this disscussion.

    13. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Foogle · · Score: 5
      Well that's horribly selfish way to look at it. When you say "Let MP3s thrive", I'm assuming you mean the pirating of MP3s because you also seem to want to be able to copy them (and DVDs) to your hearts desire, regardless of the wishes of the people who produced them.

      I don't really care if you have to spend more money than you'd like to, to get a CD you want. That's life. Yes, major labels have hideously overpriced the cost of CDs, but it's still your choice whether or not to buy them. Look, I'm all for the MP3 format, and I love to see artists distribute their content over the internet. What I can't stand, however, is when people decide that it's okay for them to pirate music that wasn't distributed by it's creators for free.

      It's theft, plain and simple. I know that everyone thinks of the industry as being the big bad guy, and maybe they are. That doesn't make it okay for you to steal from them though. If you do, then you're just as bad as they are. Just because you don't like a musician or a company doesn't make it okay for you to violate their right to intellectual property. They can charge whatever they damn-well like for their products.

      Look, it's not like music/movies are something you HAVE to have. If you don't want to pay their price then vote with your feet: take you business elsewhere. But don't reduce yourself to the level of a theif by pirating their material. It's unacceptable in any media: music, movies, software, or whatever.

      If pirating movies and music becomes a wide-spread practice (right now MP3s aren't quite as ubiquitous as they could be) then the movie and music industries will have to hike their rates for people who actually have a conscience. And if those people can't pay the price then said industry will be shut down. Period. If people aren't willing to pay for movie, then no one is going to spend 100 million on special effects to create it.

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    14. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because at least then you are not stealing. At least you have some sense of *ethics* and Integrity then. Do your know what those are? Just because someone is an asshole doesn't make it right for you to steal from him. Try looking up Integrity.

    15. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by FigWig · · Score: 1

      I think your complaints are kind of lame. If you don't like the record companies and the artists they promote, don't listen to them or spend your money on them. No one is stopping you from going to a local club and supporting the bands there.

      If you don't like movies, don't see them. If you feel that you society puts such pressure to see these movies that you HAVE to see them go rent it with a few friends and have everyone put in 33 cents.

      You can't have it both ways you know - embracing the benefits of mainstream media (glitzy special effects, wide promotion of artists) - without the drawbacks (paying whatever they ask for it).

      Try listening to public or college radio and reading a book instead.

      Even though I too have my share of illegal MP3s I find a lot of the "reasons" behind it hypocritical.

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    16. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by FigWig · · Score: 1

      In Hong Kong the movie industry is suffering greatly because often pirated VCDs of movies are available before the movie is even released in theatres.

      Even with computers it will always take money and talent to make a good movie.

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    17. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      But isn't a distributor in a position of ransom when they say I can only view their media if and only if I pay the price they demand?

      No. The two parties to the bargain (you and the distributor) are not in equal positions. The fact is you can obtain his property (the movie) with or without his approval. He would only be in an equivalent position if, say, he had access to your bank account and could take your money without your approval.

      This is why you are not bargaining from a position of good faith, because you know that, regardless of the outcome of the bargaining, you will still get what you want, and so you have no good-faith motive to bargain. This puts the distributor at disadvantage and puts you, not he, in the position of ransomer.

      Cultural standards would indicate that entertainment is exempt from the free distribution of beneficial IP.

      In fact, the vast majority of entertainment in our culture is freely distributed. Most music, television, literature, and even movies, are in the public domain. The bit we're arguing over is only a small portion of the aggregate entertainment available to anyone of us, and thus it makes no sense for you to argue that you are being deprived of entertainment just because some distributor wants to you to pay for a particular movie or CD.

      If you don't want to pay for Titanic, go watch Casablanca. If you don't like the $20 price tag on Reba McIntyre's CD, then buy the $3 Brahms one instead. If you think $25 for the latest Stephen King tome is a rip-off, then you can (legally!) download Shakespeare from the net.

      If you want to argue that you can only be entertained by copyrighted material, then I suggest your world is too small. Broaden your horizons.

    18. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Arandir · · Score: 1

      "At some point of earning money, I conclude, the possession of more money is fundamentally wrong."

      And what point is that? $1,000? $10,000? $1,000,000? $1,000,001? How do you decide?

      I would agree that move moguls make too much and teacher not enough. But do you tax the moguls or put the teachers on subsidy?

      Of course, if you were the emperor of the known universe you could arbitrarily decide that everyone who makes one dollar more than you is wrong. But you're not the emperor, king or even mayor or anything. Thank goodness for small favors.

      If no one was coerced or defrauded in its earning, then it is of no concern of yours how much money someone makes.

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    19. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      personaly, i go out of my way to pay money for whatever pirated material i think is worth paying for.

      if i download an mp3, and i like it, i'll order the cd ..

      if i download a VCD of a particularly good movie. you guessed it, i'll buy it!

      the thing about sharing these files is that you get more variety than you otherwise would.

      for instance, i've become a huge fan of foreign music which i wouldn't have even heard if it wasn't for mp3's, i simply wouldn't have know where to look.

    20. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Or have you actually used this argument to convince a rational, educated adult ... ?

      it's more difficult than fist anticipated to get ... my position across

      Translation: No one's buying it.

    21. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Bilestoad · · Score: 1

      The only thing wrong with your argument is that

      art != IP
      product != IP

      Music, film, television is PRODUCT or at best ART.

      If you apply what you wrote to something like OLGA, where anyone can get the IP that defines how to play a song, fine. However, an individual recording of a song is more than just knowledge.

      Now, Jubal Harshaw (via Robert Heinlen) said that a government-funded artist is an unprincipled whore! I'm inclined to agree. But do you REALLY think you'll see anything like The Matrix again if there is no money in it for the studio? Wake up!

    22. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 1
      In this particular instance, there is no song that I'd really want to listen to for which I wouldn't be willing to pay the artist $2. I would have gladly given Elton John hundreds of dollars, instead of his distributor.

      As for Waterworld sucking, I am not satisfied to have paid to see it in the first place. As for Judgement at Nuremburg (note: ironic that the authors of which are mostly dead by now, but the copyright still holds), I'm quite happy to give my money for it.

      At 80% off, however, I'd be more likely to buy it than at full price. Take Windows for example? It isn't installed ubiquitous because everyone bought a copy. It's ubiquitous because it was copied all to hell. If enforcement of piracy laws were in effect, Windows would be less popular. Why? Because many of the people using it could not afford it, no matter how much they desired to use it.

      As for stooping low: Entertainment is entirely subjective. There is no objective pricing of entertainment. If I say it is worth $2 to me, then who can argue with that? I'm willing to pay what something is worth to me, but if I am to be punished for providing myself with entertainment, I'm just as happy to do without it. But when the option to bargain doesn't even exist, and I know I am being exploited, I feel no moral objection to piracy.

    23. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 2
      I have a serious qualm with thieving the money of artists. I have no qualm, however, with taking money from the industry that holds the artists down, that represents itself as if it were the artists themselves. I'm speaking of distributers.

      All music that I enjoy, I wish I could give the artists money, but from what I have seen, the $1 that an average artists makes on a CD just doesn't justify the $20 I'm going to pay for it, especially when I know that the majority of the manufacturing cost is in the jewel case!

      Movies are a more complex, but the problem still exists that a costly movie does not indicate a good movie! See Waterworld. Whereas many cheap movies have been great, see Judgement at Nuremburg. My experience has lead me to believe that the more a movie costs, the more effort has been put into the development of the movie to cover up for lack of acting, or plot, or overall richness of content. But that's subjective, and completely dependent on the genre as well. (Sci-fi benefits from the cash injections.)

      My qualm with movies is that Hollywood consistently releases movies I do not enjoy. They still get my money. There is no "pay if you like it", scenario. You do not "get what you pay for", you simply "take it or leave it". However, if I walked out of Fight Club for example, I'd have gladly given $10 for the entertainment value, intellectual stimulation, and overall relaxation induced by taking me away from reality for a few hours. That kind of thing is priceless.

      In reality, however, with such high margins, what incentive does a producer have to make a good movie? It's more likely that the movie was brought up to schedule against the desires of the cast, crew, and producer to make a good movie, in an effort to meet a movie season peak.

      With less margin, the incentive exists to provide better movies. I see fit to vindicate these wrongs by not paying.

      And I fear no reprisal from law enforcement: any law that undermines the morals of the people is of null and void effect. What decent person would punish someone for copying a movie? The producer of the movie comes to mind, but then, if it was a Hollywood movie, they'd likely not care because they have sufficient money. And if the movie bombed, and they made little money in the theatres, advertisements, fast food endorsements, and so on and so forth? I say that it is unlikely that this is a movie I would want to copy, and were it a movie I desired to possess, I would gladly pay a reasonable amount for it.

      My time becomes more precious with age, and my interests with mass-produced entertainment dwindle. If anything, the producers of movies will eventually have to pay me to spend my precious time to sit and watch their movie. If the advertisements in the beginning of the movie incite me to spend money on particular products, then everyone is happy.

      I am not sure how this comes across as selfish. This is my attitude towards a selfish world. My $20 is not worth a 2 hour movie I'd watch three times in my lifetime. My $20 is not worth a single track on a single CD that I enjoy a severely finite number of times. If they want my money, let them barter for it. I'd gladly give $2 for the single track I want to listen to, but cut the crap and give me the things I want at the prices that meets both of our needs. I do not feel the need to be exploited, and will go to great lengths to engage those that attempt it!

    24. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Foogle · · Score: 1
      No, you couldn't copy the movie using this software, but a modified version could easily be made to write the descrambled video stream to disk. Once that's been done, it's basically the same as pushing around a REALLY REALLY BIG mpg files.

      It's important to note that the software we're talking about is probably completely illegal. Unless these guys paid for the license to the descrambling algorithm, they're breaking the law. It doesn't matter how they got that algorithm, it's still not their intellectual property. It would be nice if a big-name Linux company like Redhat or Caldera spent the money on a real license and released it as freeware (GPL would not be an option).

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    25. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wonderful idea!
      I warn you though, that I don't think that you "need" the computer you used to write that message, listen to your music, and watch your movies. I suppose then I should show up at your house with my guns and steal that, too.
      What you advocate is theft. A sale requires the consent of both the consumer and the producer. It is just your sort of thinking that was extended to kill off hundreds of millions of people under communism without any substantial benefit. Has anyone ever died from watching "Cabin Boy", doubtful.

      --Read Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged

    26. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Fizgig · · Score: 5

      There is no objective pricing of entertainment. If I say it is worth $2 to me, then who can argue with that?

      The studios and me. That was my point. Bargaining works like this:

      A) Widgets! Get your widgets right here! Only $100!
      B) I'll pay $2
      A) $50
      B) $2
      A) $25
      B) $2
      A) Screw you. I'll taking my widget and going home.

      You removed the studios' ability to say the last part. It would be one thing if you said "I'm not willing to pay $18 for that album" and sucked it up and went without. But when you say "I'm not willing to pay $18 for that album; I'm stealing it instead", what incentive does the studio have to lower the price? Sure, a FEW people might buy it instead (you claim you would, but are you sure?), but most would not and they would lose more money (I suspect they could lower it some and gain more from people who abstain, not pirates).

      When you say "It's worth $2 to me" that means you're willing to pay $2 and if it costs more you won't have it. It does not mean that you will give the person $2 for the item. A subtle difference, but consider. How much is fetchmail worth to me? I'd say $25, maybe a little more. Does that mean that's how much I pay for it? No. Likewise, the album/movie may be "worth $2" to you, but the studio has no evidence that you won't just steal it anyway, so they won't sell it for $2.

    27. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 2
      Extortion has to be the biggest stretch of the imagination. No one needs movies. You don't have to pay their price, but don't expect to get something for free, just because you don't think it's reasonable.
      Is it a stretch of the imagination that someone making millions of dollars would leave prices high such that they might make margins where no alternative exists to their form of entertainment? And is entertainment really unnecessary? Never before in my life have I seen a society so deprived of real connections between people. In fact, I believe there is a need to see movies, listen to music, watch tv. Because the natural social bonds are slowly break down after years of exposure to mass media.
      If you don't pay for a movie, then the producers don't get a return on their investment. If they don't get their money back, they won't sink money into another film. Unless you're satisfied with a thousand films a year that all look like "Blair Witch", then someone needs to shell out a couple million.
      Again, this is the flip side of a coin that isn't recognized here. If a producer make a horrible movie, still makes his millions, because I and millions of others paid to see his film, is that not an attrocity? The producer did it to all the innocent, unknowing people that paid to see the crappy movie that was produced. And what incentive does that give him? Produce shitty movies. People will go see them anyway, I still make the mint, and don't have to put the effort into producing something of entertainment value.

      I don't feel like gambling my money on the entertainment prospect of a movie every time I go to the theatre. I don't have the time, the money, the energy, or the incentive.

      The real issue: Will years of mind-bogglingly bad movies produce a state where one cannot recognize the true value of a film, such as Blair Witch project, wherein we have been spoiled or brainwashed, by Hollywood marketing.

    28. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the point was, no company could legally open source the authentication and decryption routines .. it would go against the NDA's and stuff you'd have to sign to see the specs.

    29. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Foogle · · Score: 1
      What if you don't think it's worth paying for? Do you keep it? Do you delete it? What makes it okay for you to be the judge of whether or not someone else get's paid?

      Don't get me wrong - your philosophy is better than the original posters, but it's still a blatent violation of intellectual property laws. It's the same thing as if I stole a movie from Sam Goody's and only paid for it after I decided it was decent. Even if it was bad and I return it, I just got a free rental. That's what I like to call "Selfish", not to mention theft.

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    30. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 1
      From what I know about producer/crew relationships, they are generally paid during the production of the movie. They get their money either way.

      From where we stand, I can see your argument's clarity. But then we look at a good film maker's real incentive: to entertain. The movie industry is a money making machine, with monetary incentives, not entertainment incentives. The film makers that succeed today are not the film makers that seek to entertain. The film makers of today are those that bring return on the producer's investment.

      This is the problem. The solution, at 1:46 in the morning, eludes me. :)

      Cheers!

    31. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Fizgig · · Score: 1

      But what kind of a bargaining position do you leave them in if you say "Give it to me for $2 or I'll steal it". You ruin your position when you stoop that low. Much like the people saying they're using "civil disobedience" with MP3s (I know, not you). That's ridiculous, since it's only effective when you make a personal sacrifice in the process.

      Also, you seem to be taking things out on possibly the wrong individuals. If Waterworld sucked, you shouldn't steal Judgement at Nuremburg. That should not give you any satisfaction.

      The main problem is that suppose the studios did give in and say "Ok, we charged too much. Movies are now 80% off" do you think the pirates of the world (not the few moral pirates, of which I'm sure you count yourself) would go back to buying the product after they've tasted the fruit? I doubt it. The studios therefore have no reason to bother.

    32. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 1

      Not in Hollywood. A "big budget" and good marketing campaign is enough to get your return on an investment.

    33. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Burnon · · Score: 1

      Luckily for me, it's only 10:15PM local. There's more to making and selling media than the original production crew.

      While producers and skilled crew get paid irrespective of volume, people who package, transport, and sell the media get paid based on individual sales. Every theft of media means that there is less need of people in this chain, and accumulated theft has a cost measured in warehouse workers' jobs and wages.

      Everything has a cost. You can waste time lamenting that fact, or get on with the business of being productive. The economy works because people buy and sell. People who steal bypass the economy, and that hurts real people. It even hurts normal people who work normal jobs and make normal wages.

      By the way, your definition of a "good" film maker is a little egalitarian. Even the "good" film makers, who make so-called art-house and other small films, need to pay the bills. I believe that a film maker can desire to entertain and desire to make a livlihood, or even get stinking rich if the opportunity presents itself. Those are real concerns that real people have. I prefer these motivations to people (like you and me) guessing what the proper motivations should be.

      In any case, if you propose to steal media from any producer, big or small, it's still theft. If a film maker chooses to license his work for free, that's his choice. Not yours nor mine, however. Pay for what you use. If you don't want to pay, don't use.

    34. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Another+MacHack · · Score: 1
      Unless these guys paid for the license to the descrambling algorithm, they're breaking the law. It doesn't matter how they got that algorithm, it's still not their intellectual property.

      Why? If they just copied the decoding software they'd be violating the copyright, but if they recreated it from a specification someone else got by reverse engineering it, then how are they at fault? I seriously doubt the alrogrithm itself was patented, since that would mean it would have to have been disclosed to the public.

    35. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Burnon · · Score: 1

      The thing is, people are entertained by big budget, overly marketed fiascos. It seems to me that you'd have even less incentive to want to pirate these films - because they aren't "good films". A desire to pirate them would be hypocritical, wouldn't it?

    36. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Musc · · Score: 2

      It does not help your credibility that you repeatedly attempt to justify intellectual property through analogies with physical property. If I steal a car, the dealer no longer has a car. If i pirate a movie, i have created another copy, the stores all have just as many as they used to. There are valid arguments for IP, but not through analogies with physical property. So that deflates half your argument.

      As far as no more movies being made...
      If enough people want to pay for movies, as you apparently do, then the movies will get made. How will it help anyone if I go without instead of pirating? If nobody but me can ever possibly know, how can anyone but me possibly be hurt? If we all choose to not watch movies, it has the same effect as everybody pirating them. Why should one be preferable to the producers than the other?

      The only reason I can come up with is a vague notion of injustice based on the idea that it is immoral to recieve any benefit without paying the creator of the benefit. It seems that it is maybe rude to not pay, but how is this rudeness anywhere near as bad as theft?

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    37. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 1
      It is as difficult to decide the line between coercion and exploitation, as it is from enough money to too much.

      I see validity in my concerns in that the hoarding of money results in the stagnation of capitalism and the promotion of single points of failure in the competitive market by creating "big moneys" that can collude, olgopolize or monopolize easily.

      Any prescriptions lately? Do you think medicine really cost that much? Not according to the pharmacutical companies that just submitted to charges of collusion.

    38. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Musc · · Score: 3

      I agree completely. What right does anybody have to expect money just because you viewed a copy of their movie/software/music? What does the fact that you look at/copy it have to do with how much effort they put into it, how much it cost to make, and how much money they ought to make? If they make a movie, spending billions of dollars, and nobody pays to see it, well then they should have thought of that before making the movie. It is just like software. If the movie producers want to get rich making their movies, they must find a way to be paid for making them, NOT for viewing them. Just like software, movies are less valuable if fewer people can see them.

      You are completely justified in 'pirating' a movie rather than submitting to extortion. Think about it, how much more does it cost the movie producers when you view their movie? How much more work do they have to do when you give 1000 copies away? ZERO!! Asking to pay for copying is demanding something for nothing, which is most certainly wrong. Some people claim that viewing a movie without paying is getting something for nothing, and therefore stealing. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Viewing a movie gratis is getting nothing for nothing. You aren't getting anything, except the right to do something no one has the right to deny you.

      If this causes the movie industry to crumble and die, as is happening any time now with software and music, then so be it. Musicians will still write music, they have for years before copyright. Software will still be written, it is necessary for many aspects of life and business. If movies don't get made it is because nobody wants to pay. If nobody wants to pay, then obviously no one would care if they stop being made.

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    39. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think capitalism. If a movie maker doesn't entertain, he will not make money. A desire to make money is incentive to make entertaining movies.

    40. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by tialaramex · · Score: 5

      You're way off :)

      The CSS stuff (which is where this breakthrough was) is NOT PATENTED
      If they had PATENTED it, we would have had working (but illegal) stuff last year. Instead, they kept it a TRADE SECRET. That has no legal protection, but it means it took an extra 12 months or so to get free code which works.

      For the player, no-one can legally make a FREE (as in Beer or as in Speech) player. You have to pay per-copy fees for at least some of the component technologies (AC3 comes to mind) in a player.

      However, just because it is ILLEGAL to make a free player, doesn't mean no-one has :)
      Anyway, the key breakthrough (CSS) means there's no major difference between "DVD Video on Linux" and "MPEG 2 on Linux", except a few silly add-on features. I can live without subtitles if I have to.

    41. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Another+MacHack · · Score: 1
      Don't get me wrong - your philosophy is better than the original posters, but it's still a blatent violation of intellectual property laws. It's the same thing as if I stole a movie from Sam Goody's and only paid for it after I decided it was decent. Even if it was bad and I return it, I just got a free rental.

      The difference here is that while you were in posession of the physical manifestation of the movie which you removed from the premises of the store, the store couldn't sell it to someone else.

      If I make a copy of something of yours, you still have it.

      Your ability to make money by artificially creating scarcity is removed. Because of this, you may not choose to continue to create. My actions may be illegal, they may even be immoral, but to call it theft ignores the obvious fact that you still have that which I supposedly stole from you, and at no point did you not have it!

    42. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Foogle · · Score: 1
      Look, I completely understand that it sucks to pay good money to see a shitty movie. I can't tell you how many times I've left a theatre thinking, "Did I really just pay $7.50 for that crap?" But that's the risk you take when you go see a movie. And unless you feel like putting those theatres out of business (which pirating movies certainly would do) it's a risk you'll just have to take. Read a movie review, for crying out loud. A lot of the reviewers are idiots, but there are a few good ones out there.

      I can't believe you wrote that you "don't have the time ... [and] the energy " to watch a bad movie. How does time or energy factor into this? You'll spend the same amount of time on a film whether you steal it or pay for it legitimately. Besides, if you don't have the time or energy, maybe there are more pressing issues to deal with than entertainment

      Which brings me to another point: The fact that our society is filled with movie-lovers does not make movies a necessity. I know dozens of people who do not regularly go to the movies. I know a few people who NEVER go to the movies and, in fact, they live quite normal lives. Yes, social bonds are breaking down, but how does going to see a movie fix that?? If anything, it just makes it worse? To anyone who must see movies to function as a normal person, I have only this to say: Get a friggin life. Read a book. Talk to a friend (GASP) in person. There is life beyond the mind-numbing drone of force-fed media. You can live a heathly existance without advertisements and cheap plotlines. Don't use your unnatural dependencies as an excuse for crime, though -- it doesn't cut it.

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    43. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Foogle · · Score: 3
      Look at what you're saying! Do you think that music and movies are some kind of god-given right? I don't care how inflated you think the prices are, that doesn't give you warrant to steal them.

      Extortion has to be the biggest stretch of the imagination. No one needs movies. You don't have to pay their price, but don't expect to get something for free, just because you don't think it's reasonable. I don't think it's reasonable to pay $35,000 for a car. I happen to know that cars do not cost that much to build. That, however, does not give me the right to walk into a Nissan dealership and drive off in a new Maxima without paying for it.

      If you don't pay for a movie, then the producers don't get a return on their investment. If they don't get their money back, they won't sink money into another film. Unless you're satisfied with a thousand films a year that all look like "Blair Witch", then someone needs to shell out a couple million.

      From your last comment, though, it seems like you wouldn't mind if the entire movie industry disappeared. Fine. Go fsck yourself because the rest of us enjoy it. People like you are nothing but theives. Go ahead and justify it by telling yourself that they are the one's who're extorting you. Its dillusional and no moral person would have any part in it.

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    44. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Ok. You're a moron. Learn to interpret, and think, rather than recite interesting tidbits that have no bearing on the argument.

      Me thinks you know much less about communism than you know about capitalism, of which you seem to lack any real meritable knowledge.

    45. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Woodblock · · Score: 1

      Really? How many people did Stalin starve? Or Mao? How many dissidents have died in chinese jails? How many millions were starved in africa in order to force them onto state owned farms.
      It is a FACT that this type of argument, the "people who produce things have too much money and are evil" is what led to communism, and ultimately the death of millions of people. Learn to crack open a history book and imagine what it means for 40 millions people to die of starvation.

    46. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 1
      That's a good point. (It's been stated a couple of times, but that's the clearest.)

      Of course, I don't have any pirated films that I've never paid money for in the first place. In fact, I don't have any pirated films ... possibly because I have no real method to copy them. Speculating, I'd have to say that any movie worth having, I'd pay for myself. But, if I could get a movie for free, perhaps one that I'd only watch once in my life, I'd not be willing to pay for it, but more than willing to copy it.

      We won't get into music and MP3's. :)

    47. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Foogle · · Score: 2
      I can't begin to tell you how sick I am of people saying that theft of digital media is completely differnt than theft of physical media. Yes, it does have different ramifications, but the principle is the same.

      While digital media is certainly much easier to duplicate then the physical, it still costs money to produce. People have to be paid for their work, without which, that digital media would not exist. The costs of producing ANY media are defrayed (and turned into profit) by selling the product. No matter what it is, if you get it for free then you're obviously not paying the pricetag, and therefore not defraying the producers overhead.

      You (along with many others) make the argument that it doesn't make a difference whether you pirate it, because you wouldn't buy it in the first place. This is true in some ways, but it's on very shaky ground. If one person did what you suggest (pirates instead of going without) then there really is no difference.

      Imagine though, if everyone did that. Now nobody is paying for the content and the producer isn't seeing a penny to compensate for his work/investment. Suddenly the market for his product has no value for him and he will, unless he doesn't care about losing money, discontinue production of newer media.

      Here's the real issue: You're using something that a person just like you spent time and hard work to create. By not paying them, it's a slap in their face. If you don't respect them enough to pay their price, then don't use their product. I don't care what it is - Music, Video, Software, whatever.

      I guess you're right though: It's not theft in the traditional sense of the word. You aren't actually stealing anything, just copying it. But it is theft by the legal definition. You are violating another persons right to profit off of the use of their intellectual property. You're also causing the destruction of a market that you obviously enjoy to some extent. Have a little foresight and do the right thing. If the price is too high then vote with your feet -- don't use the product.

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    48. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Musc · · Score: 1

      How do you have a right for whatever twisted contract you may dream up to be negotiable on fair ground? Signing away your freedom to copy, in exchange for nothing, is a fully one sided agreement in which only the delusional would sign. on fair ground. Copyright gives intellectual property producers, such as hollywood and microsoft, unfair power over their customers.

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    49. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Burnon · · Score: 1

      What power? I choose not to purchase goods from Microsoft? I avoid watching/licensing movies that I do not want to see. We all have choices - nothing has been taken away from us.

      You have no freedom to copy, at least neither legally nor ethically. You've signed away nothing. You may copy, but you violate laws and the ethics on which the laws are based.

      If you disagree with the ethics, you have the freedom to attempt to change the law. But until the law changes, copying is theft.

    50. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 1
      lol. talk about dragged out. :)
      And unless you feel like putting those theatres out of business (which pirating movies certainly would do) it's a risk you'll just have to take. Read a movie review, for crying out loud. A lot of the reviewers are idiots, but there are a few good ones out there.
      When I go to the theatre, I want to pay money to be entertained. I don't want to have to think and plan what movie I want to see. There should be something there along the line of what I want to see, and I pay for the big screen and popcorn and nice trailers and big theatre sound. That's what I pay for.
      I can't believe you wrote that you "don't have the time ... [and] the energy " to watch a bad movie. How does time or energy factor into this? You'll spend the same amount of time on a film whether you steal it or pay for it legitimately. Besides, if you don't have the time or energy, maybe there are more pressing issues to deal with than entertainment
      When I say I don't have the time and energy to put into watching a bad movie, I mean I'd rather put my time and energy into something rewarding or satisfying. If I enjoy it, then it's worth paying for. If not, then it's just a pure sacrifice, and I have a chip on my shoulder for the fellow that gets my money.

      And we all need entertainment. Even the most stoic of us. And sometimes, it's nice to go to a movie. My wish would be that when I go to a movie, if I enjoy it, I pay double, if I don't, I get my money back. I'd like to be able to vote with my dollar, for the next person, at least.

      In reality, how does someone know that they've made a horrible movie when they rake in the money. I don't know. :)

    51. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Burnon · · Score: 1

      Alternatives do exist. There are small budget films. You can wait for films to end up in the bargain bin. You can rent a film with a group of friends to split the costs to a reasonable level.

      You can choose other forms of entertainment. You can go to a club and listen to live musicians. You can listen to a radio, you can play your own music. People got by just fine before the wonders of electronics gave entertainers the ability to record performances.

      How is the license to watch a film fundamentally different from a burger purchased at McDonald's, when you talk about the rights of the owner? Any time you purchase food at a restaurant, you're taking a risk on the quality of the food. That does not justify the theft of the food, however. Instead, you have the right to not purchase it if eating it is too risky a propostion. You can limit risk by choosing the restaurant, perhaps by avoiding McDonald's altogether.

      The thing is, you are likely to be punished for stealing food. People may choose to give it to you for free if you are hungry, as some people recognize your right to avoid hunger. The same can be said of entertainment. But when license is not given freely, you must rely on the charity of others. To do otherwise is to be a parasite, a.k.a. a thief.

    52. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You bring up a really good point. It's personal empowerment. You and I can do today what others never could; we can choose. I don't endorse either side of the fence, but I really like the choices. -R

    53. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Burnon · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, an impartial society can't pass judgement on the intangible benefits of what is legally a one-sided exchange, since one party does not consent to it. Money is everthing, at least legally, if that is the coin that the owner chooses to accept.

    54. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by debrain · · Score: 1
      Actually, it's neither theft nor stealing, it's copyright infringement. :)

      And after 40 years it no longer applies.

      Just thought I'd convolute the argument even more.

    55. Re:To be MP3, are the movies we see by Musc · · Score: 1

      Your words fit exactly. It is a slap in the face, nothing more.

      Why am I obligated to not copy their product just because I don't respect them enough to pay for it?
      I am violating another persons righ to profit off hte use of hteir intellectual property? Well that is exactly my point, intellectual property is an abomination.

      Yes, it takes much effort and money to make a movie. If everybody did what I did, the costs would not be reimbursed and the movie company would go out of business. Whats the problem here? thats life.

      Just because you put great effort into creating a benefit does not entitle you to any reward whatsoever for those who enjoy the benefit. Any payment IS a donation, and ought to be legally viewed as such.

      Your argument seems to be that if i get a benefit, the creator deserves a reward. I don't see this deservement is strong enough to warrant enforcement by force.

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  194. Where I watch DVD's by FireReaper · · Score: 1

    On my entertainment setup(lousy, but usable).

    I've thought of doing it on the computer, but that
    would mean WinCroak. So I'm patient and will wait
    for better DVD code. (Keep up the good work!)


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  195. Re:How long? by C.Lee · · Score: 1

    >Well DVD came out in what, 1994....

    And only started showing up in places like Kmart in late 1998 or so....

  196. Flamboient??? by NovaX · · Score: 2

    How is this a flame. I merely said Linux was not for servers as the poster claimed. That does not mean it cannot raise to a server OS, it means that the origional goal was not for a server machine, and was an offshoot. Many also want linux to be a desktop OS, an imbedded OS, etc. That means Linux is many things, and not one. Calling that a flame of Linux is absurd.

    The rest would be too if considered a flame. Linus has said he considered himself the best programmer in the world when he began Linux, and that's ego, whether he was or was not. That's good, or else he may not have taken the task. He wasn't happy with Minux, which is why he created Linux, and Xenix was popular (many people liked Xenix, because it was functional and had support).

    The rest was 'what OSes have their goal for servers?' FreeBSD is a good x86 OS designed for servers, which means its better at some tasks while worse at others. Don't kid me by claiming AIX and Solaris are not server class OSes, because both are well respected and powerful unix OSes on their platforms.

    Linux is superior to all of these in various ways, but each are superior to linux, and each other, in various ways. Pretending nothing else except Linux exists and is useful is pure ignorance. Take my karma away, fine (who cares?), but don't be so thick headed as to claim anything that does not flaim a different, non-Linux based OS is thereby a flaim towards Linux. Linux is modelled after UNIX, so there has to e some good things to UNIX, and as there are other UNIX OSes, there must be some good things about them too. Its mere logic.

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  197. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by Quickening · · Score: 1

    I notice on the WINE application DB, that Sound Forge works completely under linux. Has anyone else tried it?

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  198. Registry rot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... is one of the biggest causes (IMHO) of the stability problems in windows. The registry was a neat idea in theory but a nightmare in implementation. Either that or the registry design in windows was just an exceptionally poor one...

    1. Re:Registry rot... by TummyX · · Score: 1

      I don't think so. I did have corupt registries back in 95/96 when 95 first came out. But been running Win98 and Windows 2000 since then with absolutely no registry dramas.


      It's worse to try to write to a static text file - no indexing or tabling.
      What if you want to insert a setting? The only choice is to rewrite the entire file...erk. yuck yuck. I'll have a database over a text file any day.

  199. Project list by cdlu · · Score: 3

    Well, this is all good and great, but we have a lot of data streams we have to break still :)
    -Quick time came up a few weeks ago on slashdot.
    -We need to come up with a good GPLed VCD player (I can't find any, youknow of one?)
    -console based Real-Audio receiver that can save to .wav or .mp3 or something
    So while we have a way of watching dvds now, we still have a lot more work that needs doing before we can do everything other OSs can.

    1. Re:Project list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      Except for the VCD (isn't that just MPEG on a CD?) these are codec problems, not stream problems. The stream for Quicktime is open. The codecs (e.g. Sorensen) are not. Thus if you have a QT file that uses mpeg, you can view it. It's a LOT harder (I would imagine; never tried) reversing a codec when all you know is what it's supposed to look like than reversing a file system when you know what the data should vaguely look like.

  200. Re:If people could make and publish their own movi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You completely missed the author's point. He is saying that although copying drugs costs virtually nothing, the development process costs a fortune! The only way the pharmecuitical companies can remake the amount they spent on the drug is to charge way more than the production cost (e.g. the include the development cost). In case you didn't know, for everyone successful drug that is developed, many unsuccessful ones are produced. They also have to make up for this. In the same way, the entertainment business has to make up for *production and development* costs. Those movies cost a hundred million dollars to develop. SOMEONE has to pay for that. And just like the pharmecuitical companies, they have to factor in movies that 'failed'.

  201. It's a conspiracy! by Greyfox · · Score: 1
    It's a conspiracy between Microsoft and the hardware manufacturers, that's what it is! Microsoft knows that desktop video is a killer app, and they don't want the only real competition to come along in 15 years to have it too. We're seeing a lot of win* hardware now for the same reason -- if MS can't win on techncial merits, they'll just shut Linux users out of the market.

    This is all just a theory on my part, of course. How much evidence would it take to prove Conspiracy? Everything I've got right now is circumstantial...

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  202. Re:Hardware Decoders... by Chaostrophy · · Score: 3

    1- But I don't want to replace my system, dual PPro 150's, 128MB RAM, nice case, PC Power & Cooling power supply, none of it will work in a new system, and I am happy enough with it now.

    1a-a hardware decoder will always be less of a strain on the system than doing it in software. DMA from the drive to the card, and from the card to your video card. Shouldn't eat more than a few % of your cpu.

    2-I cannot argue with that, IF you have a fast enough cpu. In a GPL sense, not as long as there are patents on any part of it, and I expect there are.

    3&4-well, yeah.

    5-hey, and they don't take a PCI slot anyways. But I'm not replacing my Libretto any time soon either. And I bet hardware is easier on your battery. If you have the space, why not use hardware?

    There is a place for hardware decoders, yeah, next summer, when I upgrade to a dual 1ghz Athlon system, software will be great, but until I get around to it (and it may be longer than that), hardware is the only way for me to watch it. Well, when it finally works under Linux.

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  203. Re:Ok Mr-thinks-hes-an-economist READ THIS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does it really matter if the solution is perpetual or not? If the solution wasn't perpetual (e.g. one time), the companies would just charge more. My general understanding of biology suggests that perpetual solutions (e.g. drugs that counteract the effects of a certain disesase or prohibit it) are much easier to develop than those that are one-time (or X amount of time).

  204. Re:Nodody *needs* red pumps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well you said it yourself, you don't need it to survive, which is what is really important. Much of the population on earth still has to deal with that problem believe it or not. As for entertainment, really a secondary or tertiary concern, their are many alternatives which are affordable to almost anyone. IF that isn't enough entertainment for you, then perhaps you should spend some less time entertaining yourself and some more time working so you can legally acquire things that will entertain you.

  205. Re:Nodody *needs* red pumps by Money__ · · Score: 1
    First of all, it's obvious that we share common words (need/want) that have different interpretations. This is ok.

    My hope is to shed some light on why a person needs to prioritize and categorize things in life as either a want or a need.

    At the risk of over simplfying the issue, let's talk about the basics:

    Food. Shelter. Clothing. These items, and the means necessary to attaining them are NEEDS. One common solution to attaining the basic needs is finding a good or service that someone else will pay you money for (a job). In return for that payment, you can obtain your Food, Shelter, and Clothing. These are needs. So often in our culture the word 'Need' is thrown out there and never challanged. It is in the context of this debate (movies/disrobution/piracy/stealing) that many put forth "the service offered by the movie industry is a NEED".

    For example you stated:..you need something in your life to entertain you, or you'll go crazy.

    I would put forth that you've allowled your feeling to WANT to be entertained to overwelm you. I've got a news flash, you won't go nuts of you don't have Q3 arena, You won't go crazy is you don't have the absolute latest and greatest thing. Try is sometime, and you'll see.

  206. Re:Whoa boy... by debrain · · Score: 1
    A: Yes. It's the law. You may choose to not follow it and that's ok. Just as long as you're willing to suffer the ramifications. If you don't agree with the law, lobby your Congressman and ask to have it changed. Untill then, shut up and sit down.
    Foremost, I don't have a congressman, although I have lobbied several congressmen, senators, presidents, priests, kings, and almighty rulers about many things. For everything I might lobby for as a person, there is a hired employee of a company lobbying against me, with dedicated tasks as a full time day job, compared to my part time excursions into the politic.

    Secondly, making it law doesn't make it right. In fact, in Canada, if a law undermines intelligence, morality, the UDHR, it is of null and void effect.

    They are ALL MADE TO RECOUP THE MONEY SPENT! And with a little luck make a little money to compensate the risk taken in making it in the first place. Under current IP law, thay have the right to recoup there investment in a fair marketplace.
    I've noticed a trend between big spending movies, and bad movies. They are all too often one and the same. Money invested has no bearing in real value. Compare Windows with Linux. Prefer Windows, would you? But no, this isn't about Linux, or free speech, or free beer, or freedom of expression, or rights of individuals, or the rights of companies to make money. I say it is about the segregation of the rich and the poor.

    But I won't argue that any more. Some people see it, some people don't.

    And as an art form, people who truely admire works of art, admire the works of art created by those who are proud of their creations, who enjoy their work. People recognize and adomnish the money makers.

  207. Re:Anyone else getting no output from css-cat?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    -vK0 seems enough to get video AND audio in English.

  208. Re:Ok Mr-thinks-hes-an-economist READ THIS by debrain · · Score: 1
    This is *really* off topic, but anyway.

    Yes, perpetual drugs are easier to create. Not necessarily easier to manufacture, but easier to create, and significantly less expensive to research. But the rewards are also much greater and as such the incentives for a cure decreases, given perpetual income.

    Take insulin for diabetics. It's a billion dollar worldwide industry. Will it go away? Probably not in the current economic model. Is there a cure? Likely, but whoever created the cure was likely killed, or his rights to it were bought and boxed.

  209. SAME QUALITY?? by grossdog · · Score: 1

    With DVDs, we certainly do not have the same quality video at home as a film would afford in a theater. The sound may be getting closer (although still not there. most home audio systems are crap. up until maybe this year or last home theater audio was a joke. dolby pro logic? please stop kidding me. And the people who do spend $500 on a decoder and 5 speakers are getting incredibly ripped off on patent audio technical mumbo jumbo. anyway...)
    Film is just much higher resolution that your television. much much much higher. NTSC is something like 480 X600 (i kow I'm wrong, but in that ballpark) and DVD can do that without ghosting, blurring, or any of the other problems of VHS. But to say that it's just like 35 mm film is just wrong. I'd guess that film resolution is several orders of magnitude higher than DVD. Look at how big a film is on a big screen. do you see lines and pixels? definitely not, unless, of course, the director intended them.
    Further, telecining film, digitising it for special effects, etc, requires a tremendous amount of storage, beyond the size of a DVD for as little as a minute's worth.
    I'm not knocking DVD, it's definitely a step up from VHS (maybe even from laserdisk, but I'm a bit hesitant on that), but in o way can it compete with film in terms of image quality.

    (the above comments were made by someone who until recently had a screening room in his house with a film projector and TV projector. His parents recently added an NAD THX six amplifier system with dolby 5.1 (?) to said screening room, finally bringing it up to the level of "not bad" for movies on laser/DVD)

    --Andrew Grossman
    grossdog@dartmouth.edu

    1. Re:SAME QUALITY?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ermm... slight factual flaw in your argument. Using a Faroudja line-quadrupler on either a DLP or a high-end CRT front-projector (properly calibrated, of course) onto a 135"+ screen with DTS DVDs on a high-end audio system (Meridian Digital Speakers, etc.) WILL approach the theater experience. The DTS data rate on DVDs is identical to the data rate in the theaters (1536kbps), and a system with very low THD @ 75 W/ch (85W LFE) (reference level) will definitely rival theatrical sound. 35mm would still look better (marginally), but the lack of specks, scratches, and horrible degradation more than makes up for a minimal difference in resolution, IMHO. The Star Wars DLP projection was in 1920x1080p resolution, and test audiences remarked that the preferred it to traditional film - even though 35mm is still considerably higher resolution, its errors (dust, tears, etc.) are much easier perceived by the human visual system than *minor* aliasing problems. And yes, DVD does look better than LD.

  210. DVD = Damned Video Decoding by IanCarlson · · Score: 4

    Ohmigod, Ohmigod, Ohmigod!!!

    Can you tell I'm excited? Here's the fourm to say what I need to say. FUCK YOUR ENCRYPTION! Does anyone remember when we thought this was impossible, and that even if it weren't, it would need a hardware decoder? Well, the Linux-DVD team has proven them all wrong.

    Oh, and any posts about the "ethics" of this are pointless to say the least. When you pay for a DVD, you pay for the right to watch it, and enjoy it. Should you be penalized if you aren't using Windows to view it?

    I love you Tux, I love you Linux-DVD team, I love you Slashdot.

    By the way, I heard about people using their DVD drives under Linux (for data DVDs) back in Janurary. I never thought I would see the Matrix playing in an X-Window.

    --
    aÍÍ©ÍÌÍ£Ì'̽ͩÌÍzÍYÌÍÌY
    1. Re:DVD = Damned Video Decoding by IceFox · · Score: 5

      Oh by the way the Matrix has a differnt code that isn't int he source yet.

      Here is the number:
      {0x28, {0x53, 0xd4, 0xf7, 0xd9, 0x8f}};


      or for the codeers:
      struct player_key player_key = {0x28, {0x53, 0xd4, 0xf7, 0xd9, 0x8f}};

      --
      Do you changes clothes while making the "chee-chee-cha-cha-choh" transformation sound?
    2. Re:DVD = Damned Video Decoding by Mark+F.+Komarinski · · Score: 1

      JVC 501 is okay as well. -Mark

      --
      -- Ever notice that fast-burning fuse looks exactly the same as slow-burning fuse? I didn't... (Edgar Montrose)
    3. Re:DVD = Damned Video Decoding by IanCarlson · · Score: 1

      Thanks a heap, IceFox.

      I never liked this DVD stuff anyway...

      /me goes off to cry in his basement.

      ((Hey IceFox, want some damn good karma waves? Explain how one movie vs. another could have a different code.))

      --
      aÍÍ©ÍÌÍ£Ì'̽ͩÌÍzÍYÌÍÌY
    4. Re:DVD = Damned Video Decoding by Keeper · · Score: 1

      Whoops, my bad... 2x 4.3g

    5. Re:DVD = Damned Video Decoding by bgdarnel · · Score: 2

      This key is in version 0.8 of the css package, available from the site linked to in the howto. The Matrix seems to decrypt OK, but when I try to pass the resulting .vob file to mpeg2player, it says "can't read first packet", creates a small white window, and sits there indefinitely. The Matrix is the only DVD I have to test with currently, so I'm not sure if it's a problem with that disc or with my setup.

    6. Re:DVD = Damned Video Decoding by IceFox · · Score: 1

      The matrix is put out by Warner Brothers. They have a differnt key.....

      --
      Do you changes clothes while making the "chee-chee-cha-cha-choh" transformation sound?
    7. Re:DVD = Damned Video Decoding by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      The pressing of the Matrix that's out has a jillion bugs, and this has been causing problems all over the place. On my Mac, I have to mount it as an ISO-9660 disk and not UDF or it won't work. Even some home DVD players have been having trouble with it. I'd suggest you try a different disk. (Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels is a good choice ;)

      --
      -- This and all my posts are in the public domain. I am a lawyer. I am not your lawyer, and this is not legal advice.
    8. Re:DVD = Damned Video Decoding by IceFox · · Score: 1

      same things here. I don't have any WB titles

      --
      Do you changes clothes while making the "chee-chee-cha-cha-choh" transformation sound?
  211. Anyone else getting no output from css-cat?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    css-cat "just sits there" for a long time then
    gives me a zero len file.

    Am I supposed to use the -v flag?

  212. Learn from LAME by harmonica · · Score: 1

    How about an approach similar to the LAME project? Take some ISO reference code for an MPEG-2 decoder and offer just patches to that code instead of a complete application. You could include decryption, assembly optimization of time-critical parts like IDCT etc. AFAIK, distributing patches is not against the law anywhere, it seems to work for LAME. Then again, IANAL.

    1. Re:Learn from LAME by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      AFAIK, distributing patches is not against the law anywhere, it seems to work for LAME.

      I doubt it. It is a crystal clear attempt to circumvent the law, it is not clear at all if it is legal to distribute and use the MPEG-2 reference decoders, and sooner or later you'll have to optimize patented stuff.

    2. Re:Learn from LAME by harmonica · · Score: 1

      ..., it is not clear at all if it is legal to distribute and use the MPEG-2 reference decoders,

      But the reference decoders would not have to be distributed, they're available already. The LAME project is merely a huge patch. A user would of course need to get the reference decoder, the patch, apply the patch and compile everything. This would certainly shrink down the number of potential users because it's not simply point and click installation.

      and sooner or later you'll have to optimize patented stuff.

      Yes, that is questionable indeed - is it allowed? In what countries? Time-critical parts like the IDCT are not covered by patents (they're indeed used in JPEG already), so a good knowledge of the internals of MPEG-2 is required to answer the question about patented and time-critical parts of the decoder. You lost me here! ;-) Anyone?!

  213. Re:Problems with viewing output.vob with mpeg2play by gregstoll · · Score: 1

    Thanks for the info! Tried it, but it says "Fatal server error: No "Display" subsection for -bpp depth 16" Any idea what file this is coming from, or how to fix it?

  214. Re:I know I am Offtopic... by IceFox · · Score: 1

    http://www.sigmadesigns.com/

    http://www.linuxtv.org/

    They are the ones selling the Hardware later this year.

    --
    Do you changes clothes while making the "chee-chee-cha-cha-choh" transformation sound?
  215. All I care about is the folly of "regional DVDs" by Sir_Winston · · Score: 3

    I'm glad of these breakthroughs mostly because, as it stands, a DVD I buy in France can't be played with an American DVD player. If the addage is true that information should be free (as in freedom), then this is a terrible thing. It's especially bad since many films are not available outside their own regions--for example, there's a "director's cut" of the movie called in America *The Professional*, which is called *Leon: version integrale" which is only available in Europe. The American version of the film is fluff, but the French version is beautiful--they won't ever release it in the U.S. because 13-yr.-old Natalie Portman (Queen Amidala in her latest role) asks Leon to sleep with her, and though he refuses he does take her out to help him in his job as a hitman and teach her the ropes. None of that happens in the U.S. censored version. That's just one version. Now we're closer to breaking down the barriers of film-industry censorship, and that's a great thing. Thanks to the hackers and code-breakers who did this work. Thanks a lot.

    --


    "The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws."--Tacitus, *The Annals*
  216. Re:VideoCD player for Linux by demon · · Score: 1

    Ok. So do you know how hard it is to get the White Book? (I think that's the question we all want answered...)

    --

    Sam: "That was needlessly cryptic."
    Max: "I'd be peeing my pants if I wore any!"
  217. Re: Linux sound support by cduffy · · Score: 1

    "Lucky to get it working on anything apart from a particular spec of machine"?

    If you've got a sound app working in one place using the standard OSSLite subsystem, it should work everywhere (including on the systems of those enlightened folks using ALSA, which is a far better system, for their sound). Look at Speak Freely -- I can't see ViaVoice requiring many sound system features it doesn't support, and it works quite well.

  218. Re:Funny by IceFox · · Score: 1

    Please read the comments

    --
    Do you changes clothes while making the "chee-chee-cha-cha-choh" transformation sound?
  219. Well, okay, then: by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 1
    integrity In*teg"ri*ty, n. [L. integritas: cf. F. int['e]grit['e]. See Integer, and cf. Entirety.] Moral soundness; honesty; freedom from corrupting influence or motive; -- used especially with reference to the fulfillment of contracts, the discharge of agencies, trusts, and the like; uprightness; rectitude.

    Hey, the previous poster was honest about his desire to "pirate" movies and watch them without paying for them. As for moral soundness: morality is subjective. Perhaps he feels that what he's doing is correct. Who are you to argue his morals are wrong? I personally find him to be a man of integrity. Don't you?

    For our next lesson, class, we'll be looking up "corporate lapdog".

    - A.P.
    --


    "One World, one Web, one Program" - Microsoft promotional ad

    --
    "Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
  220. Times are changing (as always) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Art forms (music, movies, etc.) that can be easily copied digitally is destined to be free whether the artists and trillions of dollars of a few super rich and many shareholders like it or not.

    Money will, once again, be made off the service (live performances, a good theater, etc); not the item. Cell phones and Computers are other current examples of this trend.

    Service will always sell skill is not something you can merely get for yourself. (unless you "live" in the Matrix) The creation of art will either be done out of sheer desire to create, or under commission (once again: a service).

  221. Do I care? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, I don't enjoy movies because of their budget. Some really thriving DVD pirates would just get rid of those abnormal budgets and get the movie industry back to basics, ie telling a story worth to see. What I hope for is that the technology needed to make movies becomes more inexpensive so we get more quality 0-budget films. I just saw the first PC firewire card for reasonable prices and when you can drop a pair of DVD-rams at your local Kodak store and get a DVD pressed it's almost reality.

  222. You misunderstand... by kaphka · · Score: 1

    I doubt anyone is still reading this, but a lot of people have criticized my comment, so I feel that I should defend it.

    I didn't say that I lost respect for /. when I saw that comment. Nor did I imply at all that I didn't want to hear debrain's opinion. I specifically said that when I see a comment like that marked "Insightful", I lose respect for Slashdot.

    I figure that for every +1 of moderation, there must be at least a few thousand Slashdot readers who agree with it. (Not counting the past few hours... it's moderation armageddon!) Selfish and ill-conceived opinions are not dangerous in and of themselves. Selfish and ill-conceived opinions that are shared by a lot of people worry me.

    I don't really think that many /. readers agree that "At some point of earning money... the possession of more money is fundamentally wrong." I think that the positive reaction to debrain's rant is just the result of the knee-jerk "information must be free" attitudes that prevail around here. But that's exactly why it dissappointed me... I know that /. readers on the whole are very, very smart people. It's disturbing to see that they only apply that intelligence selectively.

    Of course, that's just my opinion.

    --

    MSK

  223. Try css-cat -v -K by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not quite sure how all these people got it to work without these arguments.

    This is the only way it worked for me.

  224. Re:Why? by Madoc · · Score: 1
    The Linux community has earned a reputation of not being willing to pay for anything.

    The Linux community has earned a reputation for paying for distribution CD's, or games from Loki, or things that follow the moral imperitive behind the Free Software movement (that is, software that isn't treated as chairs) depending on the person.

    The Linux market for things like this is sufficiently small that the companies figure that it's not worth spending the money to make sure that it works under Linux.

    The market for things like this is several million of the geekiest people on the earth. People nearly guaranteed to buy this stuff up (as long as it meets their requirements ethically as well as practically). In terms of hardware, it is always in the best interests of those "companies" you speak of to make sure that it works under a range of Operating Systems.

    They don't sit around and say, "Yeah! Let's shut out all those Linux/Amiga/Etc. users, we don't want them watching our movies," they just don't yet see a business advantage in doing so.

    They most likely don't actively attempt to hurt us. But they also don't actively help us (even with a lot of pleading). Which can be almost as frustrating.

    --
    Anonymous Cowards: Proving daily that human beings are innately jerks.
  225. Yes: Pioneer DVD303S by sainsworth · · Score: 1

    Pioneer makes a SCSI version of their 6X DVD drive. It is available as a Hi-Val model. Buy.com has it here. I have been considering buying it. Has anyone used one of these? Do you like it?

  226. DVD crypto evilness: mfrs can be locked out! by Paul+Crowley · · Score: 5

    Read the description in NTK of how the crypto on a DVD is organised: the whole disk is encrypted with a single random key, then the key is itself encrypted several times, once for each DVD manufacturer. Your DVD player will have only one of these manufacturer master keys built in, so the corresponding encrypted key needs to be on the disk for you to read it.

    The nasty bit is this: the idea was that if a given key is leaked, they simply stop using it on newly pressed disks. Bang: the key in *your* brand of DVD player was leaked, so now neither you nor anyone else with a player from that manufacturer can play new disks. This threat has never been carried out.

    Fortunately, they screwed up the crypto: master keys can be brute forced in a few days. Basically DVD locking is dead; they'd have to come up with a forward-and-backward incompatible "DVD Plus" format to rescue things now.

    However, this is so far the industry's best effort at a universal copy-resistant format; as the tide turns our way, it might hopefully be their last.
    --

    1. Re:DVD crypto evilness: mfrs can be locked out! by IceFox · · Score: 2

      I found a bunch of random numbers lying about, they are good for seeding
      poker programs and such:

      $ cat *.keys | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | cut -f1 | uniq -c:

      75 6
      160 5
      75 4
      61 3
      24 2
      673 1

      $ cat *.keys | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr (skipping the last 673
      uninteresting numbers):

      6 {0x7d5, {0x4c,0xbb,0xf5,0x5b,0x23}}
      6 {0x7b7, {0xab,0x36,0xe3,0xeb,0x76}}
      6 {0x7ad, {0xec,0xa0,0xcf,0xb3,0xff}}
      6 {0x78f, {0xbf,0x92,0xc3,0xb0,0xe2}}
      6 {0x762, {0x2c,0xb2,0xc1,0x09,0xee}}
      6 {0x73f, {0x26,0xec,0xc4,0xa7,0x4e}}
      6 {0x730, {0x2c,0xb2,0xc1,0x09,0xee}}
      6 {0x71c, {0x26,0xec,0xc4,0xa7,0x4e}}
      6 {0x717, {0xec,0xa0,0xcf,0xb3,0xff}}
      6 {0x6f4, {0xb1,0xb8,0xf9,0x38,0x03}}
      6 {0x6c2, {0xcf,0x1a,0xb2,0xf8,0x0a}}
      6 {0x6b8, {0x2c,0xb2,0xc1,0x09,0xee}}
      6 {0x6ae, {0x2c,0xb2,0xc1,0x09,0xee}}
      6 {0x68b, {0x45,0xed,0x28,0xeb,0xd3}}
      6 {0x67c, {0x4c,0xbb,0xf5,0x5b,0x23}}
      6 {0x672, {0xab,0x36,0xe3,0xeb,0x76}}
      6 {0x64a, {0x26,0xec,0xc4,0xa7,0x4e}}
      6 {0x622, {0xb1,0xb8,0xf9,0x38,0x03}}
      6 {0x61d, {0x45,0xed,0x28,0xeb,0xd3}}
      6 {0x618, {0xb1,0xb8,0xf9,0x38,0x03}}
      6 {0x604, {0xec,0xa0,0xcf,0xb3,0xff}}
      6 {0x5be, {0xec,0xa0,0xcf,0xb3,0xff}}
      6 {0x591, {0xbf,0x92,0xc3,0xb0,0xe2}}
      6 {0x58c, {0x2f,0x25,0x9e,0x96,0xdd}}
      6 {0x573, {0xcf,0x1a,0xb2,0xf8,0x0a}}
      6 {0x564, {0xcf,0x1a,0xb2,0xf8,0x0a}}
      6 {0x550, {0x26,0xec,0xc4,0xa7,0x4e}}
      6 {0x537, {0xec,0xa0,0xcf,0xb3,0xff}}
      6 {0x532, {0xbf,0x92,0xc3,0xb0,0xe2}}
      6 {0x519, {0xab,0x36,0xe3,0xeb,0x76}}
      6 {0x4c4, {0x4c,0xbb,0xf5,0x5b,0x23}}
      6 {0x4a6, {0x45,0xed,0x28,0xeb,0xd3}}
      6 {0x4a1, {0xcf,0x1a,0xb2,0xf8,0x0a}}
      6 {0x433, {0x51,0x67,0x67,0xc5,0xe0}}
      6 {0x410, {0x2f,0x25,0x9e,0x96,0xdd}}
      6 {0x40b, {0xbf,0x92,0xc3,0xb0,0xe2}}
      6 {0x3c0, {0x2c,0xb2,0xc1,0x09,0xee}}
      6 {0x3bb, {0x26,0xec,0xc4,0xa7,0x4e}}
      6 {0x38e, {0x2c,0xb2,0xc1,0x09,0xee}}
      6 {0x36b, {0x51,0x67,0x67,0xc5,0xe0}}
      6 {0x366, {0xab,0x36,0xe3,0xeb,0x76}}
      6 {0x361, {0x45,0xed,0x28,0xeb,0xd3}}
      6 {0x357, {0xb1,0xb8,0xf9,0x38,0x03}}
      6 {0x352, {0xbf,0x92,0xc3,0xb0,0xe2}}
      6 {0x339, {0xb1,0xb8,0xf9,0x38,0x03}}
      6 {0x320, {0xb1,0xb8,0xf9,0x38,0x03}}
      6 {0x2f3, {0x51,0x67,0x67,0xc5,0xe0}}
      6 {0x2bc, {0x2c,0xb2,0xc1,0x09,0xee}}
      6 {0x2a8, {0x2f,0x25,0x9e,0x96,0xdd}}
      6 {0x29e, {0xbf,0x92,0xc3,0xb0,0xe2}}
      6 {0x28f, {0x51,0x67,0x67,0xc5,0xe0}}
      6 {0x28a, {0xcf,0x1a,0xb2,0xf8,0x0a}}
      6 {0x27b, {0x51,0x67,0x67,0xc5,0xe0}}
      6 {0x258, {0x2f,0x25,0x9e,0x96,0xdd}}
      6 {0x221, {0xec,0xa0,0xcf,0xb3,0xff}}
      6 {0x1fe, {0x45,0xed,0x28,0xeb,0xd3}}
      6 {0x1f9, {0x51,0x67,0x67,0xc5,0xe0}}
      6 {0x18b, {0x2c,0xb2,0xc1,0x09,0xee}}
      6 {0x177, {0x51,0x67,0x67,0xc5,0xe0}}
      6 {0x154, {0x51,0x67,0x67,0xc5,0xe0}}
      6 {0x14a, {0x4c,0xbb,0xf5,0x5b,0x23}}
      6 {0x145, {0xcf,0x1a,0xb2,0xf8,0x0a}}
      6 {0x13b, {0xab,0x36,0xe3,0xeb,0x76}}
      6 {0x131, {0x4c,0xbb,0xf5,0x5b,0x23}}
      6 {0x11d, {0x2f,0x25,0x9e,0x96,0xdd}}
      6 {0x0f5, {0x2f,0x25,0x9e,0x96,0xdd}}
      6 {0x0e6, {0x4c,0xbb,0xf5,0x5b,0x23}}
      6 {0x0d7, {0x2c,0xb2,0xc1,0x09,0xee}}
      6 {0x096, {0xbf,0x92,0xc3,0xb0,0xe2}}
      6 {0x050, {0x45,0xed,0x28,0xeb,0xd3}}
      6 {0x04b, {0x51,0x67,0x67,0xc5,0xe0}}
      6 {0x037, {0xec,0xa0,0xcf,0xb3,0xff}}
      6 {0x023, {0xcf,0x1a,0xb2,0xf8,0x0a}}
      6 {0x00a, {0xb1,0xb8,0xf9,0x38,0x03}}
      6 {0x005, {0x2f,0x25,0x9e,0x96,0xdd}}
      5 {0x7f3, {0x51,0x67,0x67,0xc5,0xe0}}
      5 {0x7ee, {0x2f,0x25,0x9e,0x96,0xdd}}
      5 {0x7da, {0x26,0xec,0xc4,0xa7,0x4e}}
      5 {0x7c6, {0x85,0xf3,0x85,0xa0,0xe0}}
      5 {0x7c1, {0xcf,0x1a,0xb2,0xf8,0x0a}}
      5 {0x7b2, {0x3b,0x31,0x34,0x0d,0x91}}
      5 {0x7a3, {0xb8,0x5d,0xd8,0x53,0xbd}}
      5 {0x79e, {0x14,0x0c,0x9e,0xd0,0x09}}
      5 {0x799, {0xb1,0xb8,0xf9,0x38,0x03}}
      5 {0x794, {0x12,0x11,0xca,0x04,0x3b}}
      5 {0x780, {0x7b,0x1e,0x5e,0x2b,0x57}}
      5 {0x77b, {0x2c,0xb2,0xc1,0x09,0xee}}
      5 {0x767, {0x12,0x11,0xca,0x04,0x3b}}
      5 {0x758, {0x63,0xdb,0x4c,0x5b,0x4a}}
      5 {0x749, {0x7b,0x1e,0x5e,0x2b,0x57}}
      5 {0x73a, {0xb1,0xb8,0xf9,0x38,0x03}}
      5 {0x70d, {0x63,0xdb,0x4c,0x5b,0x4a}}
      5 {0x703, {0x3b,0x31,0x34,0x0d,0x91}}
      5 {0x6fe, {0x85,0xf3,0x85,0xa0,0xe0}}
      5 {0x6ef, {0x48,0xb7,0x6c,0xce,0x69}}
      5 {0x6ea, {0xcf,0x1a,0xb2,0xf8,0x0a}}
      5 {0x6d6, {0xb8,0x5d,0xd8,0x53,0xbd}}
      5 {0x6c7, {0x85,0xf3,0x85,0xa0,0xe0}}
      5 {0x6a9, {0x85,0xf3,0x85,0xa0,0xe0}}
      5 {0x6a4, {0x26,0xec,0xc4,0xa7,0x4e}}
      5 {0x69a, {0xab,0x36,0xe3,0xeb,0x76}}
      5 {0x690, {0x2f,0x25,0x9e,0x96,0xdd}}
      5 {0x686, {0x48,0xb7,0x6c,0xce,0x69}}
      5 {0x66d, {0x26,0xec,0xc4,0xa7,0x4e}}
      5 {0x668, {0xfc,0x95,0xa9,0x87,0x35}}
      5 {0x65e, {0xec,0xa0,0xcf,0xb3,0xff}}
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      3 {0x172, {0x4b,0x65,0x0d,0xc1,0xee}}
      3 {0x168, {0x57,0x2c,0x8b,0x31,0xae}}
      3 {0x163, {0x14,0x71,0x35,0xba,0xe2}}
      3 {0x159, {0x53,0x94,0xe1,0x75,0xbf}}
      3 {0x104, {0x53,0x94,0xe1,0x75,0xbf}}
      3 {0x0eb, {0x33,0x2f,0x49,0x6c,0xe0}}
      3 {0x0c3, {0x33,0x2f,0x49,0x6c,0xe0}}
      3 {0x0aa, {0xab,0x1e,0xe7,0x7b,0x72}}
      3 {0x0a0, {0x33,0x2f,0x49,0x6c,0xe0}}
      3 {0x082, {0xab,0x1e,0xe7,0x7b,0x72}}
      3 {0x078, {0x14,0x71,0x35,0xba,0xe2}}
      3 {0x03c, {0x57,0x2c,0x8b,0x31,0xae}}
      2 {0x7e4, {0x36,0x67,0xb2,0xe3,0x85}}
      2 {0x78a, {0x4b,0x65,0x0d,0xc1,0xee}}
      2 {0x785, {0x57,0x2c,0x8b,0x31,0xae}}
      2 {0x753, {0x35,0x5b,0xc1,0x31,0x0f}}
      2 {0x712, {0x35,0x5b,0xc1,0x31,0x0f}}
      2 {0x631, {0x4b,0x65,0x0d,0xc1,0xee}}
      2 {0x5cd, {0x4b,0x65,0x0d,0xc1,0xee}}
      2 {0x5af, {0x4b,0x65,0x0d,0xc1,0xee}}
      2 {0x4dd, {0x57,0x2c,0x8b,0x31,0xae}}
      2 {0x3f2, {0x36,0x67,0xb2,0xe3,0x85}}
      2 {0x348, {0x4b,0x65,0x0d,0xc1,0xee}}
      2 {0x31b, {0x36,0x67,0xb2,0xe3,0x85}}
      2 {0x302, {0x35,0x5b,0xc1,0x31,0x0f}}
      2 {0x2ee, {0x35,0x5b,0xc1,0x31,0x0f}}
      2 {0x280, {0x57,0x2c,0x8b,0x31,0xae}}
      2 {0x21c, {0x57,0x2c,0x8b,0x31,0xae}}
      2 {0x190, {0x4b,0x65,0x0d,0xc1,0xee}}
      2 {0x15e, {0x36,0x67,0xb2,0xe3,0x85}}
      2 {0x14f, {0x36,0x67,0xb2,0xe3,0x85}}
      2 {0x113, {0x57,0x2c,0x8b,0x31,0xae}}
      2 {0x0d2, {0x4b,0x65,0x0d,0xc1,0xee}}
      2 {0x091, {0x4b,0x65,0x0d,0xc1,0xee}}
      2 {0x06e, {0x36,0x67,0xb2,0xe3,0x85}}
      2 {0x055, {0x35,0x5b,0xc1,0x31,0x0f}}

      takes about 30 minutes to generate

      ---
      credit goes to Mike on this post

      --
      Do you changes clothes while making the "chee-chee-cha-cha-choh" transformation sound?
  227. Lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, those movie and record companies are just so evil for forcing you to pay to see the movies and listen to the music that they spent money to produce.

    Grow up. We've already got enough people whining about bogus entitlements.

    Cheers,
    ZicoKnows@hotmail.com

    1. Re:Lame by IceFox · · Score: 0

      not anymore.

      --
      Do you changes clothes while making the "chee-chee-cha-cha-choh" transformation sound?
    2. Re:Lame by NovaX · · Score: 2

      Linux was never "for servers." Linux expanded to server, it was a desktop UNIX. Look at the history, Linus wanted a cheap, good UNIX on his desktop and wasn't happy with Minux, nor was going to pay for Xenix (SCO by that time?). He also had a big ego. :-)

      If you want a server OS unix, you have FreeBSD whose goal was a server-class BSD unix on x86 (IMHO, its done a good job), or various nice UNICES, such as AIX or Solaris. But.. umm... don't think you'd often be watching dvds (heh.. and even already most are porn) on your Power4.

      --

      "Open Source?" - Press any key to continue
  228. Not exaclty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Linux being able to do something that Windows has been able to do for a long time now doesn't make it "better". It just means it is acquiring functionality that it lacked before that Windows already had... much like like of games, multimedia support, USB, etc. Windows sucks as far as stability but you cannot deny if you want to do anything with graphics or 3D, DVD, sound, etc. you're stupid to use anything other than a Windows box... maybe a Mac G4 if you don't want to play games and just want graphics.

  229. Re:Funny by IceFox · · Score: 1

    I mean please read the comments in the HowTo

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    Do you changes clothes while making the "chee-chee-cha-cha-choh" transformation sound?
  230. Re:Thank You! This is a MAJOR step for linux... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Strange... when I originally posted this it was labeled "Flaimbait" with a score of -1 This morning I logon and notice that It has been changed to Score:1 I really didn't think my original post was flaimbait. I guess someone agreed. --Aaron

  231. You're right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is yet another example of the DVD industry being "Penny-wise and Pound-foolish!"

    DIVX died for this very same reason, and region coding is looking rather shaky. But these people seem to have very short - or selective - memories.

  232. Re: Linux sound support by perky · · Score: 1
    My apologies,

    I didn't make myself clear. My point was that speech reco is not commercially viable **at the moment** beacuse drivers are not available for the most recent sound cards (eg Soundblaster Live!). I am aware of Creative Labs' comments on releasing the specs etc, and hopefully they will offer proper support on non-wintel environments in the near future. It was more of a hardware support issue, rather than saying that the fantastic work on Linux sound was flawed. As you will know, it is impossible to develop good drivers without the technical details, which in many cases have not been released.

    --
    "The new wave is not value-added; it's garbage-subtracted" - Esther Dyson, Dec 1994
  233. Re: Linux sound support by cduffy · · Score: 1

    Ahh; I see where you're coming from, then.

    Actually, however, this has not been a particularly large problem in the area of sound. The ALSA project's blacklist (showing those cards for which vendors have refused to provide specs) has but two entries (the SB Live having just been removed), while the list of supported chipsets contains 25 entries -- many of these supporting as many as five cards each, and some even more!

  234. Why? by mduell · · Score: 1

    (Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I have to ask) Why dosent the DVD industry want Linux users to watch their movies? I would view all the users/geeks that use Linux as a great market. Could someone (possibly in the industry) please explain.

    mduell

    1. Re:Why? by Amon+Re · · Score: 1

      mpegtv does not play dvds

    2. Re:Why? by Zico · · Score: 4

      1. The Linux community has earned a reputation of not being willing to pay for anything.

      2. The Linux market for things like this is sufficiently small that the companies figure that it's not worth spending the money to make sure that it works under Linux.

      They don't sit around and say, "Yeah! Let's shut out all those Linux/Amiga/Etc. users, we don't want them watching our movies," they just don't yet see a business advantage in doing so.

      Cheers,
      ZicoKnows@hotmail.com

    3. Re:Why? by kaphka · · Score: 1

      It's not that they don't want DVD on Linux -- as a matter of fact, DVD has been available on Linux for a while, from MpegTV, and probably others.

      Rather, it's open source DVD decryption that's the problem. Security through obscurity... it's the usual story.

      --

      MSK

    4. Re:Why? by kaphka · · Score: 1

      Damn, I knew I should have checked that link before I posted.

      You're correct, of course. And as a matter of fact, it doesn't look like there are any commercial Linux DVD solutions after all.

      But I still think my explanation is correct. If someone wanted to invest the (considerable) money needed to license the DVD spec, they'd have no problem writing a DVD decoder for Linux. It's only "free" (either sense) decoders that have trouble.

      --

      MSK

  235. Re:Missing the point DVD's are better than film by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Err... I almost like Star Wars better on my old interlaced Laserdisc.
    Image is much more brighter and snappy and with better color. (The special edition 35mm film print had magenta/green crossover) and in the 3 theaters I saw it this time it was never perfectly focused. This decade's film presentation paled to the 70's 70mm film presentations.
    So in progressive DVD i'm gonna like it even better

    And before you say something about 35mm film having better resolution or contrast than digital video, the resolution advantage is true if the film is focused (up to 1500 x 3600 pixels (vert/horiz) for Panavision movies and 1400 x 2500 for US Widescreen movies), but it's almost never properly done in my experience. (I worked as projectionist for the biggest theater chain in my state and basically I was the only one who did focus properly).

    But:
    1st- Those "1500" are what we could call analog res, with resolving power being at near 5% contrast at that point (-12dB's or less) (film's frequency response is a diminishing slope)
    Digital pixels (or scanning lines) can have almost 100% contrast (0dB loss) (Digital's frequency response is more like a cliff)
    2nd- We're talking focused film in excellent quality proyector/lens combinations. Just a slight defocusing throws half (or more) of the res away.
    A Panavision (2.39 wide) movie on a 16:9 NTSC DVD can have a pixel res of 330 x 780 . On PAL DVD, about 370 x 860. US widescreen (1.85 wide) movies on 16:9 NTSC are 430 x 780, on 16:9 PAL, 470 x 860.
    Now take the 1400-1500 of film, defocus it to half (as it's common in many theaters) and take acount of the analog "frequency loss curve" of film and you'll find 700-750 pixels per picture height at 5% contrast versus the digital DVD's 330-470 at a 100% contrast.
    3rd- As for film having better dynamic range (or contrast ratio), that's a myth. The image in the film print itself might have a density range of 4000 to 1. But when you view that on the screen, lens flare and room flare reduce that to sometimes even less of 100 to 1. In going from 0 IRE to 100 IRE a CTR can produce blacker blacks and whiter whites, and purer colors. If you control your rooms ambient light conditions you can easily achieve contrast ratios of 400 or 700 to 1: More dinamic range.
    (Next time you go to a movie check the "black" when a scene fades out. Its' milky gray.Compare it to the "CRT looks off" black)

    Just remember that the guys at Pixar rendered A Bug's Life at 868 x 2048 (vert/horiz) for a Panavision print cus they knew anything more would be a waste of time.

    In a way, I prefer properly mastered DVD's now. And they have better sound than most theaters to boot. I love film. But digital video is catching up. Fast.

  236. Whoa boy... by kaphka · · Score: 4
    And truth be told, this bothers me none. The multimillion dollar movie [sic] does not help my world at all
    Maybe you don't care about the movie industry (which makes me wonder why you have such a strong opinion on it), but personally, I like to watch movies. Big budget ones, and little budget ones. I would be very displeased if they ceased to exist.

    That is what you're suggesting, right? Because of course, movies cost a hell of a lot of money to make. Movie companies aren't going to spend $100M+ on a movie like Titanic if they are forced to give away their movies for free. (Because they're "too rich"?) Sure, they could still charge people to see the film in theaters, but that will become increasingly irrelevant as home theater technology advances.

    That reason alone is plenty explanation for why you can't copy movies. But I can't let the many snide remarks about "rich" movie companies go by without comment. Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that Rupert Murdoch and Ted Turner and their peers really are completely selfish and amoral. When you steal movies from them, since they're already so rich anyway, do you think they're just going to smile and take a pay cut? Of course not. They'll close a studio, putting hundreds of minimum-wage workers out of a job... they'll cancel interesting or controversial projects, in favor of guaranteed money-makers like Big Daddy... they'll raise prices on whatever it is that they're still alowed to sell... and everyone else will be hurt.

    I must say, I lose a bit of respect for /. every time I see such a childish, selfish rant like this one marked as "Insightful".
    --

    MSK

    1. Re:Whoa boy... by debrain · · Score: 1
      I must say, I lose a bit of respect for /. every time I see such a childish, selfish rant like this one marked as "Insightful".
      I'm sure /. is deprived by the decrement of your respect in it. You might rely better on your ability to add to the community, rather than insult it.

      In a real industry competition prohibits failure. We have a stock market and investment firms abound from all over the world to provide just the capital we need to make a prospective movie a reality. In a monopolistic situation such as this, the incentive to produce good movies does not exist.

    2. Re:Whoa boy... by Woodblock · · Score: 1

      In a monopolistic situation such as this, the incentive to produce good movies does not exist.
      Why then are good movies ever produced? Why was Shindler's List produced, or Taxi Driver, or 2001? I'm certain Spielburg, and Scorsese, and Kubrick all would look down upon your views that you have a right to their property and wish to steal it, while they still manage to make money off excellent movies.

    3. Re:Whoa boy... by zantispam · · Score: 1

      "I must say, I lose a bit of respect for /. every time I see such a childish, selfish rant like this one marked as "Insightful". "

      Just remember that this is a different insight than yours. The fact that it is different does not necesarily make it wrong. That mode of thinking is dangerous...

      --

      censorship is a form of noise, which actively seeks to drown out content with silence - Crash Culligan
    4. Re:Whoa boy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it theft, if I steal it and you have nothing less?

      The short answer is Yes.

      The long answer is -- Yes.

      Any questions?

  237. Reasons not to use Linux by Shaheen · · Score: 4
    With one of the last few bastions of end-user Windows software being ported or made available on the Linux Operating System, there are fewer and fewer reasons to remain a faithful user of the Microsoft family of operating systems. However, I was able to come up with the following top 5 reasons to continue to use Microsoft Windows.

    1. The idea of using something primarily controlled by typing revolts you.
    2. You could never get the hang of the GIMP.
    3. You are an employee of Microsoft.
    4. Paperclips turn you on. Especially talking ones.
    5. You like the color blue
    --
    You should never take life too seriously - You'll never get out of it alive.
    1. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      On that note, one of the reasons I'm still stuck using Windows (and probably others like me who do music stuff) is that there aren't any neat digital-studio type music apps for Linux yet. I've already written to Sonic Foundry and told them they should port ACID Music and Sound Forge. Everyone else who cares should also do so!

    2. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by Eponymous,+Showered · · Score: 2

      6. Macromedia Dreamweaver
      7. Quicken
      8. Mastercook
      9. Greeting Card Workshop (no, really)
      10. Kodak DC40 connectivity
      11. SQL-Station

      I look forward to ports/equivalent apps for all of these someday.

    3. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by gregstoll · · Score: 1

      For Quicken, at least, try GnuCash - it claims to be able to read Quicken files and provide some of the same functionality. Can't help you with the rest, though...:-)

    4. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      12. Photoshop
      13. Real Office software
      14. A decent web browser, email client and news reader
      15. Games
      16. DVD (since it STILL doesn't work in Linux)
      17. USB devices
      18. Cohesive GUI - global cut/paste
      19. Decent install routines, 'tar -xvf file.tgz make install, make' blows, RPM marginally better
      20. Voice recognition, hell even OS/2 has this

    5. Re:Reasons not to use Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      speaking of sound, when will linux get decent-sounding midi playing? Whoever made those instruments is on crack.

  238. css-auth.c by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    /*
    * Copyright (C) 1999 Derek Fawcus
    *
    * This code may be used under the terms of Version 2 of the GPL,
    * read the file COPYING for details.
    *
    */

    /*
    * These routines do some reordering of the supplied data before
    * calling engine() to do the main work.
    *
    * The reordering seems similar to that done by the initial stages of
    * the DES algorithm, in that it looks like it's just been done to
    * try and make software decoding slower. I'm not sure that it
    * actually adds anything to the security.
    *
    * The nature of the shuffling is that the bits of the supplied
    * parameter 'varient' are reorganised (and some inverted), and
    * the bytes of the parameter 'challenge' are reorganised.
    *
    * The reorganisation in each routine is different, and the first
    * (CryptKey1) does not bother of play with the 'varient' parameter.
    *
    * Since this code is only run once per disk change, I've made the
    * code table driven in order to improve readability.
    *
    * Since these routines are so similar to each other, one could even
    * abstract them all to one routine supplied a parameter determining
    * the nature of the reordering it has to do.
    */

    #include "css-auth.h"

    typedef unsigned long u32;

    static void engine(int varient, byte const *input, struct block *output);

    void CryptKey1(int varient, byte const *challenge, struct block *key)
    {
    static byte perm_challenge[] = {1,3,0,7,5, 2,9,6,4,8};

    byte scratch[10];
    int i;

    for (i = 9; i >= 0; --i)
    scratch[i] = challenge[perm_challenge[i]];

    engine(varient, scratch, key);
    }

    /* This shuffles the bits in varient to make perm_varient such that
    * 4 -> !3
    * 3 -> 4
    * varient bits: 2 -> 0 perm_varient bits
    * 1 -> 2
    * 0 -> !1
    */
    void CryptKey2(int varient, byte const *challenge, struct block *key)
    {
    static byte perm_challenge[] = {6,1,9,3,8, 5,7,4,0,2};

    static byte perm_varient[] = {
    0x0a, 0x08, 0x0e, 0x0c, 0x0b, 0x09, 0x0f, 0x0d,
    0x1a, 0x18, 0x1e, 0x1c, 0x1b, 0x19, 0x1f, 0x1d,
    0x02, 0x00, 0x06, 0x04, 0x03, 0x01, 0x07, 0x05,
    0x12, 0x10, 0x16, 0x14, 0x13, 0x11, 0x17, 0x15};

    byte scratch[10];
    int i;

    for (i = 9; i >= 0; --i)
    scratch[i] = challenge[perm_challenge[i]];

    engine(perm_varient[varient], scratch, key);
    }

    /* This shuffles the bits in varient to make perm_varient such that
    * 4 -> 0
    * 3 -> !1
    * varient bits: 2 -> !4 perm_varient bits
    * 1 -> 2
    * 0 -> 3
    */
    void CryptBusKey(int varient, byte const *challenge, struct block *key)
    {
    static byte perm_challenge[] = {4,0,3,5,7, 2,8,6,1,9};
    static byte perm_varient[] = {
    0x12, 0x1a, 0x16, 0x1e, 0x02, 0x0a, 0x06, 0x0e,
    0x10, 0x18, 0x14, 0x1c, 0x00, 0x08, 0x04, 0x0c,
    0x13, 0x1b, 0x17, 0x1f, 0x03, 0x0b, 0x07, 0x0f,
    0x11, 0x19, 0x15, 0x1d, 0x01, 0x09, 0x05, 0x0d};

    byte scratch[10];
    int i;

    for (i = 9; i >= 0; --i)
    scratch[i] = challenge[perm_challenge[i]];

    engine(perm_varient[varient], scratch, key);
    }

    /*
    * We use two LFSR's (seeded from some of the input data bytes) to
    * generate two streams of pseudo-random bits. These two bit streams
    * are then combined by simply adding with carry to generate a final
    * sequence of pseudo-random bits which is stored in the buffer that
    * 'output' points to the end of - len is the size of this buffer.
    *
    * The first LFSR is of degree 25, and has a polynomial of:
    * x^13 + x^5 + x^4 + x^1 + 1
    *
    * The second LSFR is of degree 17, and has a (primitive) polynomial of:
    * x^15 + x^1 + 1
    *
    * I don't know if these polynomials are primitive modulo 2, and thus
    * represent maximal-period LFSR's.
    *
    *
    * Note that we take the output of each LFSR from the new shifted in
    * bit, not the old shifted out bit. Thus for ease of use the LFSR's
    * are implemented in bit reversed order.
    *
    */
    static void generate_bits(byte *output, int len, struct block const *s)
    {
    u32 lfsr0, lfsr1;
    byte carry;

    /* In order to ensure that the LFSR works we need to ensure that the
    * initial values are non-zero. Thus when we initialise them from
    * the seed, we ensure that a bit is set.
    */
    lfsr0 = (s->b[0] b[1] b[2] & ~7) b[2] & 7);
    lfsr1 = (s->b[3] b[4];

    ++output;

    carry = 0;
    do {
    int bit;
    byte val;

    for (bit = 0, val = 0; bit > 24) ^ (lfsr0 >> 21) ^ (lfsr0 >> 20) ^ (lfsr0 >> 12)) & 1;
    lfsr0 = (lfsr0 > 16) ^ (lfsr1 >> 2)) & 1;
    lfsr1 = (lfsr1 > 1) & 1)

    combined = !o_lfsr1 + carry + !o_lfsr0;
    carry = BIT1(combined);
    val |= BIT0(combined) 0);
    }

    static byte Secret[];
    static byte Varients[];
    static byte Table0[];
    static byte Table1[];
    static byte Table2[];
    static byte Table3[];

    /*
    * This encryption engine implements one of 32 variations
    * one the same theme depending upon the choice in the
    * varient parameter (0 - 31).
    *
    * The algorithm itself manipulates a 40 bit input into
    * a 40 bit output.
    * The parameter 'input' is 80 bits. It consists of
    * the 40 bit input value that is to be encrypted followed
    * by a 40 bit seed value for the pseudo random number
    * generators.
    */
    static void engine(int varient, byte const *input, struct block *output)
    {
    byte cse, term, index;
    struct block temp1;
    struct block temp2;
    byte bits[30];

    int i;

    /* Feed the secret into the input values such that
    * we alter the seed to the LFSR's used above, then
    * generate the bits to play with.
    */
    for (i = 5; --i >= 0; )
    temp1.b[i] = input[5 + i] ^ Secret[i] ^ Table2[i];

    generate_bits(&bits[29], sizeof bits, &temp1);

    /* This term is used throughout the following to
    * select one of 32 different variations on the
    * algorithm.
    */
    cse = Varients[varient] ^ Table2[varient];

    /* Now the actual blocks doing the encryption. Each
    * of these works on 40 bits at a time and are quite
    * similar.
    */
    for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = input[i]) {
    index = bits[25 + i] ^ input[i];
    index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse;

    temp1.b[i] = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term;
    }
    temp1.b[4] ^= temp1.b[0];

    for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp1.b[i]) {
    index = bits[20 + i] ^ temp1.b[i];
    index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse;

    temp2.b[i] = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term;
    }
    temp2.b[4] ^= temp2.b[0];

    for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp2.b[i]) {
    index = bits[15 + i] ^ temp2.b[i];
    index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse;
    index = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term;

    temp1.b[i] = Table0[index] ^ Table2[index];
    }
    temp1.b[4] ^= temp1.b[0];

    for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp1.b[i]) {
    index = bits[10 + i] ^ temp1.b[i];
    index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse;

    index = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term;

    temp2.b[i] = Table0[index] ^ Table2[index];
    }
    temp2.b[4] ^= temp2.b[0];

    for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp2.b[i]) {
    index = bits[5 + i] ^ temp2.b[i];
    index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse;

    temp1.b[i] = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term;
    }
    temp1.b[4] ^= temp1.b[0];

    for (i = 5, term = 0; --i >= 0; term = temp1.b[i]) {
    index = bits[i] ^ temp1.b[i];
    index = Table1[index] ^ ~Table2[index] ^ cse;

    output->b[i] = Table2[index] ^ Table3[index] ^ term;
    }
    }

    static byte Varients[] = {
    0xB7, 0x74, 0x85, 0xD0, 0xCC, 0xDB, 0xCA, 0x73,
    0x03, 0xFE, 0x31, 0x03, 0x52, 0xE0, 0xB7, 0x42,
    0x63, 0x16, 0xF2, 0x2A, 0x79, 0x52, 0xFF, 0x1B,
    0x7A, 0x11, 0xCA, 0x1A, 0x9B, 0x40, 0xAD, 0x01};

    static byte Secret[] = {0x55, 0xD6, 0xC4, 0xC5, 0x28};

    static byte Table0[] = {
    0xB7, 0xF4, 0x82, 0x57, 0xDA, 0x4D, 0xDB, 0xE2,
    0x2F, 0x52, 0x1A, 0xA8, 0x68, 0x5A, 0x8A, 0xFF,
    0xFB, 0x0E, 0x6D, 0x35, 0xF7, 0x5C, 0x76, 0x12,
    0xCE, 0x25, 0x79, 0x29, 0x39, 0x62, 0x08, 0x24,
    0xA5, 0x85, 0x7B, 0x56, 0x01, 0x23, 0x68, 0xCF,
    0x0A, 0xE2, 0x5A, 0xED, 0x3D, 0x59, 0xB0, 0xA9,
    0xB0, 0x2C, 0xF2, 0xB8, 0xEF, 0x32, 0xA9, 0x40,
    0x80, 0x71, 0xAF, 0x1E, 0xDE, 0x8F, 0x58, 0x88,
    0xB8, 0x3A, 0xD0, 0xFC, 0xC4, 0x1E, 0xB5, 0xA0,
    0xBB, 0x3B, 0x0F, 0x01, 0x7E, 0x1F, 0x9F, 0xD9,
    0xAA, 0xB8, 0x3D, 0x9D, 0x74, 0x1E, 0x25, 0xDB,
    0x37, 0x56, 0x8F, 0x16, 0xBA, 0x49, 0x2B, 0xAC,
    0xD0, 0xBD, 0x95, 0x20, 0xBE, 0x7A, 0x28, 0xD0,
    0x51, 0x64, 0x63, 0x1C, 0x7F, 0x66, 0x10, 0xBB,
    0xC4, 0x56, 0x1A, 0x04, 0x6E, 0x0A, 0xEC, 0x9C,
    0xD6, 0xE8, 0x9A, 0x7A, 0xCF, 0x8C, 0xDB, 0xB1,
    0xEF, 0x71, 0xDE, 0x31, 0xFF, 0x54, 0x3E, 0x5E,
    0x07, 0x69, 0x96, 0xB0, 0xCF, 0xDD, 0x9E, 0x47,
    0xC7, 0x96, 0x8F, 0xE4, 0x2B, 0x59, 0xC6, 0xEE,
    0xB9, 0x86, 0x9A, 0x64, 0x84, 0x72, 0xE2, 0x5B,
    0xA2, 0x96, 0x58, 0x99, 0x50, 0x03, 0xF5, 0x38,
    0x4D, 0x02, 0x7D, 0xE7, 0x7D, 0x75, 0xA7, 0xB8,
    0x67, 0x87, 0x84, 0x3F, 0x1D, 0x11, 0xE5, 0xFC,
    0x1E, 0xD3, 0x83, 0x16, 0xA5, 0x29, 0xF6, 0xC7,
    0x15, 0x61, 0x29, 0x1A, 0x43, 0x4F, 0x9B, 0xAF,
    0xC5, 0x87, 0x34, 0x6C, 0x0F, 0x3B, 0xA8, 0x1D,
    0x45, 0x58, 0x25, 0xDC, 0xA8, 0xA3, 0x3B, 0xD1,
    0x79, 0x1B, 0x48, 0xF2, 0xE9, 0x93, 0x1F, 0xFC,
    0xDB, 0x2A, 0x90, 0xA9, 0x8A, 0x3D, 0x39, 0x18,
    0xA3, 0x8E, 0x58, 0x6C, 0xE0, 0x12, 0xBB, 0x25,
    0xCD, 0x71, 0x22, 0xA2, 0x64, 0xC6, 0xE7, 0xFB,
    0xAD, 0x94, 0x77, 0x04, 0x9A, 0x39, 0xCF, 0x7C};

    static byte Table1[] = {
    0x8C, 0x47, 0xB0, 0xE1, 0xEB, 0xFC, 0xEB, 0x56,
    0x10, 0xE5, 0x2C, 0x1A, 0x5D, 0xEF, 0xBE, 0x4F,
    0x08, 0x75, 0x97, 0x4B, 0x0E, 0x25, 0x8E, 0x6E,
    0x39, 0x5A, 0x87, 0x53, 0xC4, 0x1F, 0xF4, 0x5C,
    0x4E, 0xE6, 0x99, 0x30, 0xE0, 0x42, 0x88, 0xAB,
    0xE5, 0x85, 0xBC, 0x8F, 0xD8, 0x3C, 0x54, 0xC9,
    0x53, 0x47, 0x18, 0xD6, 0x06, 0x5B, 0x41, 0x2C,
    0x67, 0x1E, 0x41, 0x74, 0x33, 0xE2, 0xB4, 0xE0,
    0x23, 0x29, 0x42, 0xEA, 0x55, 0x0F, 0x25, 0xB4,
    0x24, 0x2C, 0x99, 0x13, 0xEB, 0x0A, 0x0B, 0xC9,
    0xF9, 0x63, 0x67, 0x43, 0x2D, 0xC7, 0x7D, 0x07,
    0x60, 0x89, 0xD1, 0xCC, 0xE7, 0x94, 0x77, 0x74,
    0x9B, 0x7E, 0xD7, 0xE6, 0xFF, 0xBB, 0x68, 0x14,
    0x1E, 0xA3, 0x25, 0xDE, 0x3A, 0xA3, 0x54, 0x7B,
    0x87, 0x9D, 0x50, 0xCA, 0x27, 0xC3, 0xA4, 0x50,
    0x91, 0x27, 0xD4, 0xB0, 0x82, 0x41, 0x97, 0x79,
    0x94, 0x82, 0xAC, 0xC7, 0x8E, 0xA5, 0x4E, 0xAA,
    0x78, 0x9E, 0xE0, 0x42, 0xBA, 0x28, 0xEA, 0xB7,
    0x74, 0xAD, 0x35, 0xDA, 0x92, 0x60, 0x7E, 0xD2,
    0x0E, 0xB9, 0x24, 0x5E, 0x39, 0x4F, 0x5E, 0x63,
    0x09, 0xB5, 0xFA, 0xBF, 0xF1, 0x22, 0x55, 0x1C,
    0xE2, 0x25, 0xDB, 0xC5, 0xD8, 0x50, 0x03, 0x98,
    0xC4, 0xAC, 0x2E, 0x11, 0xB4, 0x38, 0x4D, 0xD0,
    0xB9, 0xFC, 0x2D, 0x3C, 0x08, 0x04, 0x5A, 0xEF,
    0xCE, 0x32, 0xFB, 0x4C, 0x92, 0x1E, 0x4B, 0xFB,
    0x1A, 0xD0, 0xE2, 0x3E, 0xDA, 0x6E, 0x7C, 0x4D,
    0x56, 0xC3, 0x3F, 0x42, 0xB1, 0x3A, 0x23, 0x4D,
    0x6E, 0x84, 0x56, 0x68, 0xF4, 0x0E, 0x03, 0x64,
    0xD0, 0xA9, 0x92, 0x2F, 0x8B, 0xBC, 0x39, 0x9C,
    0xAC, 0x09, 0x5E, 0xEE, 0xE5, 0x97, 0xBF, 0xA5,
    0xCE, 0xFA, 0x28, 0x2C, 0x6D, 0x4F, 0xEF, 0x77,
    0xAA, 0x1B, 0x79, 0x8E, 0x97, 0xB4, 0xC3, 0xF4};

    static byte Table2[] = {
    0xB7, 0x75, 0x81, 0xD5, 0xDC, 0xCA, 0xDE, 0x66,
    0x23, 0xDF, 0x15, 0x26, 0x62, 0xD1, 0x83, 0x77,
    0xE3, 0x97, 0x76, 0xAF, 0xE9, 0xC3, 0x6B, 0x8E,
    0xDA, 0xB0, 0x6E, 0xBF, 0x2B, 0xF1, 0x19, 0xB4,
    0x95, 0x34, 0x48, 0xE4, 0x37, 0x94, 0x5D, 0x7B,
    0x36, 0x5F, 0x65, 0x53, 0x07, 0xE2, 0x89, 0x11,
    0x98, 0x85, 0xD9, 0x12, 0xC1, 0x9D, 0x84, 0xEC,
    0xA4, 0xD4, 0x88, 0xB8, 0xFC, 0x2C, 0x79, 0x28,
    0xD8, 0xDB, 0xB3, 0x1E, 0xA2, 0xF9, 0xD0, 0x44,
    0xD7, 0xD6, 0x60, 0xEF, 0x14, 0xF4, 0xF6, 0x31,
    0xD2, 0x41, 0x46, 0x67, 0x0A, 0xE1, 0x58, 0x27,
    0x43, 0xA3, 0xF8, 0xE0, 0xC8, 0xBA, 0x5A, 0x5C,
    0x80, 0x6C, 0xC6, 0xF2, 0xE8, 0xAD, 0x7D, 0x04,
    0x0D, 0xB9, 0x3C, 0xC2, 0x25, 0xBD, 0x49, 0x63,
    0x8C, 0x9F, 0x51, 0xCE, 0x20, 0xC5, 0xA1, 0x50,
    0x92, 0x2D, 0xDD, 0xBC, 0x8D, 0x4F, 0x9A, 0x71,
    0x2F, 0x30, 0x1D, 0x73, 0x39, 0x13, 0xFB, 0x1A,
    0xCB, 0x24, 0x59, 0xFE, 0x05, 0x96, 0x57, 0x0F,
    0x1F, 0xCF, 0x54, 0xBE, 0xF5, 0x06, 0x1B, 0xB2,
    0x6D, 0xD3, 0x4D, 0x32, 0x56, 0x21, 0x33, 0x0B,
    0x52, 0xE7, 0xAB, 0xEB, 0xA6, 0x74, 0x00, 0x4C,
    0xB1, 0x7F, 0x82, 0x99, 0x87, 0x0E, 0x5E, 0xC0,
    0x8F, 0xEE, 0x6F, 0x55, 0xF3, 0x7E, 0x08, 0x90,
    0xFA, 0xB6, 0x64, 0x70, 0x47, 0x4A, 0x17, 0xA7,
    0xB5, 0x40, 0x8A, 0x38, 0xE5, 0x68, 0x3E, 0x8B,
    0x69, 0xAA, 0x9B, 0x42, 0xA5, 0x10, 0x01, 0x35,
    0xFD, 0x61, 0x9E, 0xE6, 0x16, 0x9C, 0x86, 0xED,
    0xCD, 0x2E, 0xFF, 0xC4, 0x5B, 0xA0, 0xAE, 0xCC,
    0x4B, 0x3B, 0x03, 0xBB, 0x1C, 0x2A, 0xAC, 0x0C,
    0x3F, 0x93, 0xC7, 0x72, 0x7A, 0x09, 0x22, 0x3D,
    0x45, 0x78, 0xA9, 0xA8, 0xEA, 0xC9, 0x6A, 0xF7,
    0x29, 0x91, 0xF0, 0x02, 0x18, 0x3A, 0x4E, 0x7C};

    static byte Table3[] = {
    0x73, 0x51, 0x95, 0xE1, 0x12, 0xE4, 0xC0, 0x58,
    0xEE, 0xF2, 0x08, 0x1B, 0xA9, 0xFA, 0x98, 0x4C,
    0xA7, 0x33, 0xE2, 0x1B, 0xA7, 0x6D, 0xF5, 0x30,
    0x97, 0x1D, 0xF3, 0x02, 0x60, 0x5A, 0x82, 0x0F,
    0x91, 0xD0, 0x9C, 0x10, 0x39, 0x7A, 0x83, 0x85,
    0x3B, 0xB2, 0xB8, 0xAE, 0x0C, 0x09, 0x52, 0xEA,
    0x1C, 0xE1, 0x8D, 0x66, 0x4F, 0xF3, 0xDA, 0x92,
    0x29, 0xB9, 0xD5, 0xC5, 0x77, 0x47, 0x22, 0x53,
    0x14, 0xF7, 0xAF, 0x22, 0x64, 0xDF, 0xC6, 0x72,
    0x12, 0xF3, 0x75, 0xDA, 0xD7, 0xD7, 0xE5, 0x02,
    0x9E, 0xED, 0xDA, 0xDB, 0x4C, 0x47, 0xCE, 0x91,
    0x06, 0x06, 0x6D, 0x55, 0x8B, 0x19, 0xC9, 0xEF,
    0x8C, 0x80, 0x1A, 0x0E, 0xEE, 0x4B, 0xAB, 0xF2,
    0x08, 0x5C, 0xE9, 0x37, 0x26, 0x5E, 0x9A, 0x90,
    0x00, 0xF3, 0x0D, 0xB2, 0xA6, 0xA3, 0xF7, 0x26,
    0x17, 0x48, 0x88, 0xC9, 0x0E, 0x2C, 0xC9, 0x02,
    0xE7, 0x18, 0x05, 0x4B, 0xF3, 0x39, 0xE1, 0x20,
    0x02, 0x0D, 0x40, 0xC7, 0xCA, 0xB9, 0x48, 0x30,
    0x57, 0x67, 0xCC, 0x06, 0xBF, 0xAC, 0x81, 0x08,
    0x24, 0x7A, 0xD4, 0x8B, 0x19, 0x8E, 0xAC, 0xB4,
    0x5A, 0x0F, 0x73, 0x13, 0xAC, 0x9E, 0xDA, 0xB6,
    0xB8, 0x96, 0x5B, 0x60, 0x88, 0xE1, 0x81, 0x3F,
    0x07, 0x86, 0x37, 0x2D, 0x79, 0x14, 0x52, 0xEA,
    0x73, 0xDF, 0x3D, 0x09, 0xC8, 0x25, 0x48, 0xD8,
    0x75, 0x60, 0x9A, 0x08, 0x27, 0x4A, 0x2C, 0xB9,
    0xA8, 0x8B, 0x8A, 0x73, 0x62, 0x37, 0x16, 0x02,
    0xBD, 0xC1, 0x0E, 0x56, 0x54, 0x3E, 0x14, 0x5F,
    0x8C, 0x8F, 0x6E, 0x75, 0x1C, 0x07, 0x39, 0x7B,
    0x4B, 0xDB, 0xD3, 0x4B, 0x1E, 0xC8, 0x7E, 0xFE,
    0x3E, 0x72, 0x16, 0x83, 0x7D, 0xEE, 0xF5, 0xCA,
    0xC5, 0x18, 0xF9, 0xD8, 0x68, 0xAB, 0x38, 0x85,
    0xA8, 0xF0, 0xA1, 0x73, 0x9F, 0x5D, 0x19, 0x0B,
    0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00,
    0x33, 0x72, 0x39, 0x25, 0x67, 0x26, 0x6D, 0x71,
    0x36, 0x77, 0x3C, 0x20, 0x62, 0x23, 0x68, 0x74,
    0xC3, 0x82, 0xC9, 0x15, 0x57, 0x16, 0x5D, 0x81};

  239. css-auth.h by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    typedef unsigned char byte;
    struct block {
    byte b[5];
    };

    extern void CryptKey1(int varient, byte const *challenge, struct block *key);
    extern void CryptKey2(int varient, byte const *challenge, struct block *key);
    extern void CryptBusKey(int varient, byte const *challenge, struct block *key);

  240. Re:Hardware Decoders... by IceFox · · Score: 5

    I accually have a player in the works that will be done by the end of next week. It works to the LinuxDVD API specs, so as soon as this is converted into the standard the player will be able to work :) Read above for the two companies that are releasing DVD hardware cards in December. Yes other companies need to too. HOPEFULLY they will use the API that is allready in place. I player is allready skinable etc. :) If any of you patition them or even inquire ask them to follow the API that is allready in place. standards standars!

    --
    Do you changes clothes while making the "chee-chee-cha-cha-choh" transformation sound?
  241. Ok Mr-thinks-hes-an-economist READ THIS by blach · · Score: 0

    Ok debrain not to pick a fight but REALLY NOW.

    I've seen quite a few posts by you under this thread and you are simply continuing to rationalize your theft of other people's creative material with ridiculous arguments.

    Let me preface this by saying I do not work for the pharmaceutical industry. No one in my family works in that industry. I am a POOR COLLEGE STUDENT. And now on with my way-too-long-retort.

    debrain said:
    > Any prescriptions lately? Do you think medicine really cost that much? Not according to the pharmacutical companies that just submitted to charges of collusion.

    And to that I say:
    Do you know WHY drug companies charge so much for their drugs? So they can fill their coffers. Oh how evil you say, to want to put money in the corporate bank account! But (admittedly unlike some other large corporations in other industries) do you know what drug companies *DO* with all this money they make from selling drugs at a very high price?

    R - E - S - E - A - R - C - H

    Researching, developing, testing, and getting drugs approved is a long, EXPENSIVE process. For every drug that makes it to the market, a drug company has test a dozen or more other candidates, at a large expense, both of time and capital (human and monetary).

    Please do not argue subjects about which you are not educated. Take a pharmacoeconomics course and then tell me that you don't think that "medicine really cost that much".

    Please note that I am not angry nor is this intended as a flame, sorry if I get worked up sometimes, but it bothers me to see people make statements regarding subjects on which they have not been educated (e.g. pharmaceutical industry, economics) but especially when they are trying to rationalize their disdain of anyone with more money than them (just in this thread you've expressed your dislike for both the movie industry and the pharmaceutical industry. I'm sure you feel you should be able to copy the "medicine" (drugs) freely just like you feel you should be able to copy Movies and like you currently illegally copy and distribute MP3s.

    I hope this post has been educational to you RE: the drug industry and that you have no hard feelings towards me. I understand that you have an opinion and, while I do not agree with it, I respect it, I hope you feel the same way about me.

    James

    1. Re:Ok Mr-thinks-hes-an-economist READ THIS by debrain · · Score: 0
      I understand where you are coming from. The argument wasn't that Pharmacutical companies making money was fundamentally wrong, but that they made it by exploiting through collusion.

      And indeed, it is a noble trend that they embark upon by providing research, but their research is generally geared towards providing perpetual solutions, and not cures. What reasonable pharmacutical company seeking money would make a cure, when they can have perpetual money for some half-antidote.

      How do I know they do this? Because I work at a University in the labs being used and rented by the pharmacutical companies.

      But back to movies, (I'm quite fine with pharmacutical company exploiting people, btw, because I think we need more research in medicine even at moral expense.), the money going into movies goes to no half-noble cause, and as such your arguments are somewhat ... obviated. And as for genetic patents, I'm still undecided. :)

      Your arguments were quite close to the flip-side. (There's always a flip-side to every argument, that is equally valid.) But it is inconsiderate to consider those arguments to which you are attempting to resolve as rationalizations. It would appear more that you don't like the arguments, then that you have valid counter-arguments. :)

      Cheers!

  242. How long? by leonids · · Score: 1

    Just curious how long did the cracking process take?

    1. Re:How long? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well DVD came out in what, 1994....

  243. Exactly, that's what I said. by Foogle · · Score: 1
    I said that GPL would not be an option. That doesn't stop them from releasing it as freeware though. As long as they don't give out the source, then it's A-OK.

    Actually, what they could do is write the decoder into a proprietary (freeware) library. That way they could OpenSource the viewer program so that people could customize the actual player (e.g. GTK or KDE or whatever). The player would have to be LGPL'ed to allow linking with a non-GPL library, but that's better than nothing.

    My point is this: I want Linux to get DVD (so that I don't have to boot to Windows to watch mine), but I want it done LEGALLY :)

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    "You can't shake the Devil's hand and say you're only kidding."

  244. Hardware Decoders... by jeremy+f · · Score: 5

    Let's face it. No matter how much we push the code, no matter how much we optimize the routines, no matter how fast our machine is, there is *no* way a software decoder, open source or not, will outperform & look better than a hardware decoder.

    After we get the Linux-DVD project on the road to completion (now that CSS & Data encryption have been cracked, and a makeshift player has been put together -- way to go IceFox, a "snowball" effect is almost sure to start...) Within a few months, we should see quality (hopefully) GPL'ed players emerge. But there's something that really irks me. We need to concentrate on the manufacturers of hardware decoders. Creative has given somewhere between a very poor to slightly poor effort to bring drivers for it's DXR series of decoder cards to *NIX systems. They've opened up the SB Live drivers, but what of the DXRs? We need to e-mail, petition, press (not harass, just make our voices heard) to open up the source for the hardware decoder drivers. Many of you (including me and my DXR3) have a $70-$150 card in our computers that if we were to delete Windows, which some of us have, would become worthless to us. This is a shame -- and should be our next challenge to overcome.

    Way to go on the software. Now we need to get the hardware.

    1. Re:Hardware Decoders... by Chirs · · Score: 1

      Actually, the potential exists for software decoders to be better than EXISTING hardware solutions. The vast majority of existing hardware decoders are based on analog passthrough technology, which degrades the signal to your monitor. Using a software decoder lets you ensure that you are getting the output that you should be getting. With the advent of SIMD instructions and with cpus pushing the GHz barrier, hardware DVD decoding is becoming less and less important. Now if only we could get the specs to the GeForce256 to get access to its DVD assistance to make it even easier on the cpu... Chris

  245. Thank You! This is a MAJOR step for linux... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Ive always said, linux needs full USB/DVD support if it ever hopes to take a big chunk of desktop market. Breaking milestones liks this makes it one step closer.... --Aaron

  246. Hmm by Foogle · · Score: 1
    Well if that is the case, then I stand corrected.
    Somebody moderate that piece up.

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    "You can't shake the Devil's hand and say you're only kidding."

  247. Remember the GUS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did anyone have a Gravis Ultrasound a while back? Its big feature was that it had audio processing hardware on board, rather than forcing the CPU to do the work. With the CPUs of the time, this made sense...but now, the only cards which do this are VERY high end (eg. $1000+) cards for multitrack digital audio. I see that the same thing could happen with software DVD: as processors become more powerful, the % of CPU power used will drop until no one bothers with hardware decoders any more. It will happen.

  248. What a loser by roystgnr · · Score: 1

    I mean that, literally. I notice someone already mentioned Atlas Shrugged below; I thought a lot of things in that book stretched plausibility, but the characterization of people like you is vicious and pretty stabbingly accurate.

    At some point of earning money, I conclude, the possession of more money is fundamentally wrong.

    Translation: "I don't have a lot of money, don't expect to ever have a lot of money, and feel a deep resentment at people who do, and who thus expose my deep feelings of avarice and inadequacy."

    Do you realize just how pathetic it is, whining that you have to pay a few bucks to rent a hundred million dollar movie? It's like listening to my cat whine that the can opener is opening his food too slowly, when both the can and the opener are completely beyond him. No, it's worse that: my cat can catch birds and could feed himself if necessary, whereas your plaintive message makes it clear that you lack the intelligence to keep yourself intertained without Hollywood-manufactured stimuli for as much as a year.

    Guess what? If you don't think it's "fair" to pay $7 to sit in a million dollar theater and watch a ten million dollar plane crash, then go to the library and check out a freaking book. There are 6 billion people in the world, and if you think the thousands who are making movies for you are being "unfair" then you don't have to buy their movies, you don't have to see their movies, you don't even have to acknowledge they exist.

    And lest you fail to grasp the broader applications of said theory:

    If you don't like the salaries that overpaid, steroid-enhanced athletes get (as I don't), then don't go to a stadium, and they won't get a penny of your money. Hell, they might even be *subsidizing* TV shows you get to watch on your couch for free. Lucky us.

    If you think Bill Gates got rich by taking money from a bunch of suckers (yeah, me too), then don't warez Microsoft Office (that would be admitting you were wrong, if you ever thought about it honestly), simply don't buy MS software and don't let him take your money.

  249. FreeBSD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Any chance this will be brought to FreeBSD and other xBSD's?

  250. Re:I know I am Offtopic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My dxr2 has a video out on it. I have a video cable going from that to the 52 inch tv. Therefore, I watch a dvd movie on both my monitor and tv at the same time.