...and go talk to them. I got my start when I was 16 at a small business that built systems and networks. I was able to gain a great foundation there, and would recommend it to anyone wanting to get a taste.
If you have to, volunteer to work for cheap. When I think back, I'm pretty sure I was making just above minimum wage at my first job. Of course, I was billing at over $125 / hour to the company's clients... but hey, you gotta start somewhere.
Anyway, just be enthusiastic, and show them that you do your homework. Get a feel for what the company does, and show them that you at least know the basics.
I think the key is community. Find a place that has and attracts those that you are looking for, and submit your job posting to them.
I frequent the Joel on Software discussion boards (http://www.joelonsoftware.com), and they recently launched a job site (http://job.joelonsoftware.com). Might want to check that out.
Certainly there would be a logging facility to capture that sort of event. Yeah, it might not blow up the machine, but a bouncing driver *should* make a lot of noise.
Everything is so new that this hasn't been fully addressed. I am working on a new web app, and have decided to fully redesign it to be non-Ajax specifically for this reason.
My target audience could very well include those with screen readers, or even geeks w/ lynx. Since I'm more interested in reaching the largest audience as possible, Ajax will have to wait for me.
Maybe within the next two years we'll see a different take, but for now I'm sad to say I've got to stay away from it.
Most of the posts in this discussion are heated looks as to why the bombing were justified or were not. I think it's time to start questioning why this war happened in the first place.
No, don't worry - this isn't some strange Nazi appologetic post.
Consider WWI and WWII as the same war, just with a 20 year break in it. Things become much different when we see it.
When the United States joined WWI (for whatever reason), we helped bring it all to an end. The Treaty of Versai came into play, which severley crippled Germany.
Rather than just strike out against the German State, we punished all citizens. The left them in a state of despiration, one in which radicalism thrives in. Thus, we have the election of one of histories craiziest bastards, Hitler.
Had the United States not joined in on WWI, or had we not chosen to punish the German populace, WWII would have most likey never been. No holocost; no nukes.
Go back to the Washington days of non-invterventionalism.
"I would be for leaving the MBA's and asskissers to thier own profit driven world."
It wouldn't be much of a world without the progress the mentioned have brought. Let's not turn this into a 'screw the capitalists' thread, as it won't go anywhere.
The missing piece is that all of us contribute to open source for something. Whether it's cash, items from an Amazon wishlist, or just looking to feel good, it's still economics.
Mr. Fleury needs to realize that; economics goes well beyond currency.
I think his point is that if you are doing it for money, there's a good chance that you're more commited to the project as it is very possible that your lifestyle depends on the success. This isn't true for all people, but I think it applies to most.
But how do you guarentee quality when the government owns the network?
What if one company needs more bandwidth than is available, or wishes to offer services over the network that don't mesh well with the government's infrastructure?
Is it the tax payer's responsibility to support their needs?
For all of those that want to knock this product, check it out first. Just head to http://www.rubyonrails.com/ and view the video on the front page to see how easy it is to build a basic web application.
I have been developing with the Rails framework for a little over a month and have been far more productive than I ever was in PHP or J2EE.
Rails will make you love Ruby, or at least respect it.
I've worked for a number of "C*O"'s, and while they irritated the hell out of me, they made shit happen. Labor is absolutely important, but the truth is more people could be laborers than could be executives. It takes a special person to manage well.
Should the government also force magazines or other publications to carry your story if they don't want to? Freedom of speech, right? Should the government ensure that all citizens have equal rights to loudspeakers or T-3 lines?
Voted in or not, I don't see how any of it is justified. To support a subsidy on a luxury is just asking for trouble and is stealing from the rest of the public that doesn't use the service.
"They won't offer it if they can't get the price they want. The demand is there. It's good to see the elected officials filling in where "economics" fail the people."
Pointing guns at people at forcing the money out of their pocket to subsidize a luxory doesn't sound 'good' to me.
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...and go talk to them. I got my start when I was 16 at a small business that built systems and networks. I was able to gain a great foundation there, and would recommend it to anyone wanting to get a taste.
If you have to, volunteer to work for cheap. When I think back, I'm pretty sure I was making just above minimum wage at my first job. Of course, I was billing at over $125 / hour to the company's clients... but hey, you gotta start somewhere.
Anyway, just be enthusiastic, and show them that you do your homework. Get a feel for what the company does, and show them that you at least know the basics.
I think the key is community. Find a place that has and attracts those that you are looking for, and submit your job posting to them.
I frequent the Joel on Software discussion boards (http://www.joelonsoftware.com), and they recently launched a job site (http://job.joelonsoftware.com). Might want to check that out.
Anyone know how this framework matches up with Ruby on Rails in terms of development speed?
I believe this paper is trying to address a real world problem: security in a monolithic kernel environment.
Isn't OS X using a hybrid? This has to at least give some weight to the argument.
Certainly there would be a logging facility to capture that sort of event. Yeah, it might not blow up the machine, but a bouncing driver *should* make a lot of noise.
I know that the movies these days suck, but every generation had them.
According to September's FastCompany, all reviewed theateres (4 within a metro) sucked. Who wants to go see a mediocre film in a shitty theater?
I just noticed that I'm now able to send email out with addresses other than my gmail account.
VERY cool from a business standpoint.
Everything is so new that this hasn't been fully addressed. I am working on a new web app, and have decided to fully redesign it to be non-Ajax specifically for this reason.
My target audience could very well include those with screen readers, or even geeks w/ lynx. Since I'm more interested in reaching the largest audience as possible, Ajax will have to wait for me.
Maybe within the next two years we'll see a different take, but for now I'm sad to say I've got to stay away from it.
I wish he (or she) didn't post as an anonymous coward, but the post is dead on.
Markets do work; it's government intervention that causes the failure. You can see it everywhere, from the airlines to the environment.
Most of the posts in this discussion are heated looks as to why the bombing were justified or were not. I think it's time to start questioning why this war happened in the first place.
No, don't worry - this isn't some strange Nazi appologetic post.
Consider WWI and WWII as the same war, just with a 20 year break in it. Things become much different when we see it.
When the United States joined WWI (for whatever reason), we helped bring it all to an end. The Treaty of Versai came into play, which severley crippled Germany.
Rather than just strike out against the German State, we punished all citizens. The left them in a state of despiration, one in which radicalism thrives in. Thus, we have the election of one of histories craiziest bastards, Hitler.
Had the United States not joined in on WWI, or had we not chosen to punish the German populace, WWII would have most likey never been. No holocost; no nukes.
Go back to the Washington days of non-invterventionalism.
hehe, ok - this pyramid scheme is looking very attractive right now.
Any success?
Yes. Due to the limited market for the pure 64-bit chip, they decided to go along with added the EM64T extensions instead.
32-bit processors are shipping with 64-bit extension which allow them to break the 4GB memory limit.
This was main reason people wanted to see 64 bit chips, and since it has been resolved cheeply, there isn't nearly the market for it.
"I would be for leaving the MBA's and asskissers to thier own profit driven world."
It wouldn't be much of a world without the progress the mentioned have brought. Let's not turn this into a 'screw the capitalists' thread, as it won't go anywhere.
The missing piece is that all of us contribute to open source for something. Whether it's cash, items from an Amazon wishlist, or just looking to feel good, it's still economics.
Mr. Fleury needs to realize that; economics goes well beyond currency.
I think his point is that if you are doing it for money, there's a good chance that you're more commited to the project as it is very possible that your lifestyle depends on the success. This isn't true for all people, but I think it applies to most.
Why can't a private provider offer access to their infrastructure if they so choose?
I don't understand why this should be shouldered by the tax payer, or can't be handled by private providers.
>Now, how do you guarantee quality when the network is controlled by a closed boardroom at one corporation?
If you don't like the quality you recieve, you get your services elsewhere. Go dish network. Go DSL. Whatever.
Those other options exist because of competition.
But how do you guarentee quality when the government owns the network?
What if one company needs more bandwidth than is available, or wishes to offer services over the network that don't mesh well with the government's infrastructure?
Is it the tax payer's responsibility to support their needs?
There is absolutely no reason for it to be taken under public ownership: the cable companies built their infrastructure, so let them operate it.
If you wish to build such a massive infrastructure yourself, feel free to do it.
For all of those that want to knock this product, check it out first. Just head to http://www.rubyonrails.com/ and view the video on the front page to see how easy it is to build a basic web application.
I have been developing with the Rails framework for a little over a month and have been far more productive than I ever was in PHP or J2EE.
Rails will make you love Ruby, or at least respect it.
I always talk sense!
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Well said. Before we do things that are 'cool', you have to always ask "at what cost". Don't just look at the immediate, but look longterm.
I've worked for a number of "C*O"'s, and while they irritated the hell out of me, they made shit happen. Labor is absolutely important, but the truth is more people could be laborers than could be executives. It takes a special person to manage well.
I agree with your first statement.
But for the second:
Should the government also force magazines or other publications to carry your story if they don't want to? Freedom of speech, right? Should the government ensure that all citizens have equal rights to loudspeakers or T-3 lines?
Voted in or not, I don't see how any of it is justified. To support a subsidy on a luxury is just asking for trouble and is stealing from the rest of the public that doesn't use the service.
"They won't offer it if they can't get the price they want. The demand is there. It's good to see the elected officials filling in where "economics" fail the people."
Pointing guns at people at forcing the money out of their pocket to subsidize a luxory doesn't sound 'good' to me.