If you're really listening, then you'll say: "We get it. You don't like Beta. So, we're going to commit to allowing you to keep classic if that's the site you are loyal to."
You've been working on Beta for a long time. We've been aware of that. We're not responding to trying something new. We're responding to this bit from the message you retracted: > "The new site is a work in progress so Classic Slashdot will be available from the footer for several more months."
We're responding to the implication that the functional site we love will be fully replaced with the awful beta; no takesies back. This very slim time frame of several months makes it clear that in your eyes, the new "slashdot" is nearly complete. The problem is, the real reason Beta sucks is because it's a different paradigm all together. It's not something you can fix by listening to feedback and tweaking over the next few months. It's a concept that needs to be scrapped.
I think I speak for many when I say the issue goes beyond ugliness. It's a frame of mind. It's what this site represents that you're changing. We are nerds. You really need to understand nerds better if we are your intended audience anymore. We like this site because it's functional and doesn't get in the way of OUR discussion. You're turning the site into buzzfeed. Save that crap for Slashdot BI.
That will soon change to "as our audience migrates away". This needs more attention outside of the moderators' control. Continue over at reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/social...
It will soon change to: "as our audience migrates". Keep up the discussion outside of their moderation power over on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/social...
There are readers and contributors. Slashdot acknowledges some people as meaningful contributors by allowing them to disable ads. So, yes. We contributors ARE paying to use the site by offering our content. We're not giving the content for free, we get compensated in the form of a site that lives up to our high standards. So, when the compensation fails to be adequate, we must be vocal. We understand that we can stop using the "free" site at any time. We become vocal in hopes it doesn't have to come to that.
The design of their security. They should redesign it by committe. Here are some suggestions for your Target Security Beta:
* More whitespace. Credit card thieves hate whitespace. * Big goofy graphic before they can steal your credit card info * Force a lot of scrolling, this will definitely send attackers away * Make the store look like Buzzfeed. This will send them screaming.
I think sometimes posts get lost because of that awful "preview comment" functionality that makes it look like the post went through, when it's waiting for you to click the yellow button.
Yep. How long before they come fed up with these protests and start deleting comments, or moderating them into oblivion? Please continue the fight, and also, pleace comment outside of their control here on reddit (where I may soon be moving to if classic goes away): http://www.reddit.com/r/social...
Sometimes they evolve organically. Often, some interested party steps in, and turns it all upside down and ruins it. When this happens, the standard is often likely to fail because it didn't meet the needs of the users (the real stakeholders).
This is sort of what is about to happen to slashdot with the introduction of Beta. Some interested party with power steps in, and flips it upside down. What they fail to realize is that Slashdot isn't a website. It's the users. And Slashdot users are a very special class of curmudgeons... take your Beta off my lawn and shove it.
You'll pry classic from my cold dead hands. I am keeping their message at the top of the home page as a reminder of its impending demise. I'm happy to burn my karma spewing off-topic posts in protest. Meanwhile, please bring this fight over to reddit where the Slashdot moderators have no influence:
Backlash at Slashdot Beta needs attention outside of the control of Slashdot moderators. Please comment over on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/social...
I think this needs more attention outside of the control of slashdot moderators. Please help by voicing your thoughts over at reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/social...
It's usually obvious to the users. For instance, look at Slashdot's beta design... No normal webmaster who knows this site and its users would ever let garbage see the light of day. Slashdot Beta is obviously Government-Sponsored malware.
That's OK. What made slashdot great is the people who love it, leaving insightful comments. Since they are currently only leaving comments related to beta... if you mod those down, there won't be much of a discussion left.
If they do manage to suppress the beta "noise", just bring it to their facebook page.
OK. I've been on here forever... but looking at your id.. damn. Forever and a few years. I really hope beta bites it. Send all the people who like it over to http://slashdot.org/topic/bi/
And it would be nice if they didn't try to force me to use it on my ipad. I stay away from this site on mobile devices.
Yeah. Shows how out of touch the people in charge of the site have become. They don't understand what keeps people here. I imagine they don't care. I imagine it's about getting new people in and traffic numbers up. There's some project manager who is under pressure to get these numbers. Beta is their baby. I feel bad that they have to keep an optimistic face, and pretend they like the monster that they created... all while knowing they've cock punched their oldest fan base. More of us old-fogeys with 1,000,000 user ids need to speak up.
Slashdot Mirror
Why? Give me those domains.. I want to go ahead and manually visit them. I'm curious. And I don't even use Steam.
What ratings system? What do you mean by "routing"? I know. RTFA. But come on, a summary should at least... well you know summarize.
If you're really listening, then you'll say:
"We get it. You don't like Beta. So, we're going to commit to allowing you to keep classic if that's the site you are loyal to."
You've been working on Beta for a long time. We've been aware of that. We're not responding to trying something new. We're responding to this bit from the message you retracted:
> "The new site is a work in progress so Classic Slashdot will be available from the footer for several more months."
We're responding to the implication that the functional site we love will be fully replaced with the awful beta; no takesies back. This very slim time frame of several months makes it clear that in your eyes, the new "slashdot" is nearly complete. The problem is, the real reason Beta sucks is because it's a different paradigm all together. It's not something you can fix by listening to feedback and tweaking over the next few months. It's a concept that needs to be scrapped.
I think I speak for many when I say the issue goes beyond ugliness. It's a frame of mind. It's what this site represents that you're changing. We are nerds. You really need to understand nerds better if we are your intended audience anymore. We like this site because it's functional and doesn't get in the way of OUR discussion. You're turning the site into buzzfeed. Save that crap for Slashdot BI.
These copy paste posts are ok, but people will soon gloss over them. Try to work hate for the beta in with an on-topic comment.
"Major Internet Site Passed By Turkeys"
That will soon change to "as our audience migrates away". This needs more attention outside of the moderators' control. Continue over at reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/social...
It will soon change to: "as our audience migrates". Keep up the discussion outside of their moderation power over on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/social...
There are readers and contributors. Slashdot acknowledges some people as meaningful contributors by allowing them to disable ads. So, yes. We contributors ARE paying to use the site by offering our content. We're not giving the content for free, we get compensated in the form of a site that lives up to our high standards. So, when the compensation fails to be adequate, we must be vocal. We understand that we can stop using the "free" site at any time. We become vocal in hopes it doesn't have to come to that.
The design of their security. They should redesign it by committe. Here are some suggestions for your Target Security Beta:
* More whitespace. Credit card thieves hate whitespace.
* Big goofy graphic before they can steal your credit card info
* Force a lot of scrolling, this will definitely send attackers away
* Make the store look like Buzzfeed. This will send them screaming.
I think sometimes posts get lost because of that awful "preview comment" functionality that makes it look like the post went through, when it's waiting for you to click the yellow button.
Yep. How long before they come fed up with these protests and start deleting comments, or moderating them into oblivion? Please continue the fight, and also, pleace comment outside of their control here on reddit (where I may soon be moving to if classic goes away): http://www.reddit.com/r/social...
Oh sweet sweet Karma. Farewell. We had a good run of it, didn't we?
Sometimes they evolve organically. Often, some interested party steps in, and turns it all upside down and ruins it. When this happens, the standard is often likely to fail because it didn't meet the needs of the users (the real stakeholders).
This is sort of what is about to happen to slashdot with the introduction of Beta. Some interested party with power steps in, and flips it upside down. What they fail to realize is that Slashdot isn't a website. It's the users. And Slashdot users are a very special class of curmudgeons... take your Beta off my lawn and shove it.
Please discuss!
http://www.reddit.com/r/social...
You'll pry classic from my cold dead hands. I am keeping their message at the top of the home page as a reminder of its impending demise. I'm happy to burn my karma spewing off-topic posts in protest. Meanwhile, please bring this fight over to reddit where the Slashdot moderators have no influence:
http://www.reddit.com/r/social...
Backlash at Slashdot Beta needs attention outside of the control of Slashdot moderators. Please comment over on reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/social...
I think this needs more attention outside of the control of slashdot moderators. Please help by voicing your thoughts over at reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/social...
Don't forget to comment on reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/social...
It's usually obvious to the users. For instance, look at Slashdot's beta design... No normal webmaster who knows this site and its users would ever let garbage see the light of day. Slashdot Beta is obviously Government-Sponsored malware.
That's OK. What made slashdot great is the people who love it, leaving insightful comments. Since they are currently only leaving comments related to beta... if you mod those down, there won't be much of a discussion left.
If they do manage to suppress the beta "noise", just bring it to their facebook page.
More posts like this. Protest beta with on-topic posts. (bonus points if title is on topic too).
OK. I've been on here forever... but looking at your id.. damn. Forever and a few years. I really hope beta bites it. Send all the people who like it over to http://slashdot.org/topic/bi/
And it would be nice if they didn't try to force me to use it on my ipad. I stay away from this site on mobile devices.
*I* am Sparticus.
Yeah. Shows how out of touch the people in charge of the site have become. They don't understand what keeps people here. I imagine they don't care. I imagine it's about getting new people in and traffic numbers up. There's some project manager who is under pressure to get these numbers. Beta is their baby. I feel bad that they have to keep an optimistic face, and pretend they like the monster that they created. .. all while knowing they've cock punched their oldest fan base. More of us old-fogeys with 1,000,000 user ids need to speak up.
As I offer to give my left foot to keep Slashdot Beta away.
And in a last ditch effort to save the classic site, all my mod points will be burnt promoting these off topic protest posts.