Are you telling me you lack the basic ability to make moral judgements? In other words you could sit by and let someone kill a child because it was culturally exceptable for them? Rationalize it away because of your twisted moral relativism? Beat women and hang teenagers for sexual activity? I want to call you stupid but I am not sure that is appropriate. If you really believe that is right, you aren't only dumb, you are evil.
Haha. You retard. You are so fucked up you equate putting your parents into an old folks home with killing a baby. Not only that, you have the balls to call it perspective. Let me ask you, is belonging to a different culture justification for denying people rights we consider fundamental? I mean how far can we take this perspective thing? Kill people for speaking out against the government? Hang women for having sex out of wedlock? Kill and eat one and other? I mean, please, oh wise and cultured one, let me know when it stops being "cultural" and starts to be a fucking problem...
You are right of course. This is only one small step in that direction. "nutzo egalitarianism" will not happen. The reason it won't happen is people like yourself will transfer power, in it's name, to people that will take advantage of it. So in the name of equality, the children, the future, the sick, the weak, or whoever is weighing you down with some sort of guilt, you will cause the very corruption you seek to prevent. Egalitarianism will not happen because the path towards it is an illusion, leading to oppressive tyranny instead.
Sir, you may be an American, but you are an idiot. If you do not understand what this man is saying, you spit in the face of everything the founders of this country tried to impress upon you. Do you understand what a constitutionally limited form of government means?
Oooh Oooh, I have an idea. What if we put a huge wall around Washington and only let people randomly selected talk to their represenative? Equal access. If you get selected you have to take government provided transportation. Oh I almost forgot, since some people are smarter than other people you are given a handicap based on your IQ. It would be like your opinions are weighted see... if you are really, really, dumb your ideas are almost sure to get implemented! If you are really really smart though... well.. you can try... equally even.
Some laws, no matter how stupid they may seem to you, really are for your own good. This is sarcasm right?
I mean you wouldn't be so stupid as to justify laws in that fashion would you? Can you imagine laws forcing you to tie your shoes? Make your bed maybe? How about eat your breakfast, or exercise. I know, a law that says you shouldn't eat to many big macs, or drink soda.
This discussion started based on soon to be restrictions on political speech. Do you think some of the justification of those laws will be for our own good? I do. Do you know where the legislative branch can shove their laws abridging political discourse? Yeah, so do I.
See, people like this don't live in a fairy tale world. Fairy tales are softer, and make believe. What these people are talking about is hard, scary, and has been made real before. Prohibiting marketing is not a fairy tale, they truly believe in the jackboots, and the police state required to enforce their sick view of a population that needs to be controlled for it's own good.
Yeah, god forbid I want a treatment my doctor doesn't agree with. I mean really, we are all idiots, and need laws to prevent us all from abusing ourselves. I obviously have no ability to judge the reliability of information myself, and I am glad that I have a babysitter such as yourself looking out for my well being.
What is funny about the snakeoil thing, is that it is surely a response to the last battery improvement story someone posted. Remember? It was total bullshit about some sticker you put on your battery, and someone at slashdot bought into their PR.
Burned from the last time, they put "Snake oil?" in the heading, but this time it is something with some research behind it. Not saying it isn't possibly crap, but it looks _way_ more legit than the last thing.
Anyway, someone needs to seriously work on their bullshit detector.
$50/hour? Forget that. I know you have a $120,000 student loan hanging over your head, but the government says you get $25. Don't like it? Well screw you bucko because it's the only government in town. Maybe if we had a free country you could charge what you wanted. But you don't.
"Sure it can be abused. But we need a way to identify people"
Why? I mean really.. Why? The only reason you offer is identity theft... Maybe the people responsible for handing out credit like candy will realize that they need a bit more than a couple numbers before they hand someone 10 grand on plastic.
Other than that we should need a bit more evidence than a name attached to biometrics to arrest/track/search/harass someone. Think about really. What would it accomplish?
Driving is a right defined in the constitution. The right to liberty, defined in part by courts, as the right to move about using transportation methods of the time.
They can restrict this right, but they have the burden of proof.
I just looked over the FAIR site... I would not exactly call them fair... They look extremely left to me. No doubt fox is tilted right, but to look at a site like FAIR and say they have a history of misrepresenting the facts seems a little shallow.
Interacting with companies is like interacting with me. If I feel like it, I will tell whoever I damn well please what you said to me, etc... Big deal. I am not going to send a SWAT team to your house (or worse, the wrong house) and drag you to prison. Oddly enough... neither will the companies you deride.
CHRIST!! We have lost so much in this country. Let me say this simply. The constitution circumscribes the power of the government.
IT DOES NOT LIMIT THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE!
IT DOES NOT LIMIT THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE!
It is in place to limit the power of the state. God damnit... We do not need rights enumerated in the damn document. They stem from the ideals of liberty. The bill of rights was contested on these grounds. Because people were concerned that morons like you would see them as a list of the rights of the people. They simply exist to emphasize rights thought extremely important.
..."we are going to patent the human genome, and sell the information relating to human life, because it is our right to protect our intellectual property"...
So... You want the information for nothing? Or... Do you want nothing for information?
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Are you telling me you lack the basic ability to make moral judgements? In other words you could sit by and let someone kill a child because it was culturally exceptable for them? Rationalize it away because of your twisted moral relativism? Beat women and hang teenagers for sexual activity? I want to call you stupid but I am not sure that is appropriate. If you really believe that is right, you aren't only dumb, you are evil.
Haha. You retard. You are so fucked up you equate putting your parents into an old folks home with killing a baby. Not only that, you have the balls to call it perspective. Let me ask you, is belonging to a different culture justification for denying people rights we consider fundamental? I mean how far can we take this perspective thing? Kill people for speaking out against the government? Hang women for having sex out of wedlock? Kill and eat one and other? I mean, please, oh wise and cultured one, let me know when it stops being "cultural" and starts to be a fucking problem...
You are right of course. This is only one small step in that direction. "nutzo egalitarianism" will not happen. The reason it won't happen is people like yourself will transfer power, in it's name, to people that will take advantage of it. So in the name of equality, the children, the future, the sick, the weak, or whoever is weighing you down with some sort of guilt, you will cause the very corruption you seek to prevent. Egalitarianism will not happen because the path towards it is an illusion, leading to oppressive tyranny instead.
Sir, you may be an American, but you are an idiot. If you do not understand what this man is saying, you spit in the face of everything the founders of this country tried to impress upon you. Do you understand what a constitutionally limited form of government means?
Oooh Oooh, I have an idea. What if we put a huge wall around Washington and only let people randomly selected talk to their represenative? Equal access. If you get selected you have to take government provided transportation. Oh I almost forgot, since some people are smarter than other people you are given a handicap based on your IQ. It would be like your opinions are weighted see... if you are really, really, dumb your ideas are almost sure to get implemented! If you are really really smart though... well.. you can try... equally even.
I love equality! Equality rules! Yay!
Some laws, no matter how stupid they may seem to you, really are for your own good.
This is sarcasm right?
I mean you wouldn't be so stupid as to justify laws in that fashion would you? Can you imagine laws forcing you to tie your shoes? Make your bed maybe? How about eat your breakfast, or exercise. I know, a law that says you shouldn't eat to many big macs, or drink soda.
This discussion started based on soon to be restrictions on political speech. Do you think some of the justification of those laws will be for our own good? I do. Do you know where the legislative branch can shove their laws abridging political discourse? Yeah, so do I.
Do you know what the word freedom means?
See, people like this don't live in a fairy tale world. Fairy tales are softer, and make believe. What these people are talking about is hard, scary, and has been made real before. Prohibiting marketing is not a fairy tale, they truly believe in the jackboots, and the police state required to enforce their sick view of a population that needs to be controlled for it's own good.
Yeah, god forbid I want a treatment my doctor doesn't agree with. I mean really, we are all idiots, and need laws to prevent us all from abusing ourselves. I obviously have no ability to judge the reliability of information myself, and I am glad that I have a babysitter such as yourself looking out for my well being.
What is funny about the snakeoil thing, is that it is surely a response to the last battery improvement story someone posted. Remember? It was total bullshit about some sticker you put on your battery, and someone at slashdot bought into their PR.
Burned from the last time, they put "Snake oil?" in the heading, but this time it is something with some research behind it. Not saying it isn't possibly crap, but it looks _way_ more legit than the last thing.
Anyway, someone needs to seriously work on their bullshit detector.
Hello. I'm your new patient.
$50/hour? Forget that. I know you have a $120,000 student loan hanging over your head, but the government says you get $25. Don't like it? Well screw you bucko because it's the only government in town. Maybe if we had a free country you could charge what you wanted. But you don't.
"Sure it can be abused. But we need a way to identify people"
Why? I mean really.. Why? The only reason you offer is identity theft... Maybe the people responsible for handing out credit like candy will realize that they need a bit more than a couple numbers before they hand someone 10 grand on plastic.
Other than that we should need a bit more evidence than a name attached to biometrics to arrest/track/search/harass someone. Think about really. What would it accomplish?
Driving is a right defined in the constitution. The right to liberty, defined in part by courts, as the right to move about using transportation methods of the time.
They can restrict this right, but they have the burden of proof.
I just looked over the FAIR site... I would not exactly call them fair... They look extremely left to me. No doubt fox is tilted right, but to look at a site like FAIR and say they have a history of misrepresenting the facts seems a little shallow.
Give me a break.
Interacting with companies is like interacting with me. If I feel like it, I will tell whoever I damn well please what you said to me, etc... Big deal. I am not going to send a SWAT team to your house (or worse, the wrong house) and drag you to prison. Oddly enough... neither will the companies you deride.
Oh My God.
CHRIST!! We have lost so much in this country. Let me say this simply. The constitution circumscribes the power of the government.
IT DOES NOT LIMIT THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE!
IT DOES NOT LIMIT THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE!
It is in place to limit the power of the state. God damnit... We do not need rights enumerated in the damn document. They stem from the ideals of liberty. The bill of rights was contested on these grounds. Because people were concerned that morons like you would see them as a list of the rights of the people. They simply exist to emphasize rights thought extremely important.
..."we are going to patent the human genome, and sell the information relating to human life, because it is our right to protect our intellectual property"...
So... You want the information for nothing? Or... Do you want nothing for information?
Naaah.. MS just wanted to remind the gov. what kind of software they use to type up all of the justice dept. vs MS cases.
What I would like to see is MS auditing the entire justice dept.