I do think the stories of miracles don't contradict "physics" and they are comparable to a lot of stuff the science fiction writers like to imagine folk doing.
The egyptian reconciling of egpytian archeology with current calendars was still strongly debated last time I looked, and nothing was conclusive then.
Jesus certainly was not the son of Joseph and as you point out, has his ancestry of David through his mother, I suspect you don't want to go into this, but I am satisified that the geneology holds up. A quick google shows enough backing for those who are interested.
We may argue about which way the bible has been corrupted (lets not, on second thoughts) but I insist that foreknowledge of the mission of Christ has been shoehorned OUT of scripture; however the NT claims that not only Christ was ressurected but so were many who were seen by many. I'm happy for you not to accept this, but I can't let it pass that what is left of the divinity of Christ in scripture has been trivially retrofitted.
For sure there has been a head on collision and what was left of the Christian church was very pliable after the loss of the apostles.
As for Pilate and the death of Christ, it was pilates view that he was not a direct danger to the authority of Rome, nor a tax resister, he was sentenced in order to placate a Jewish rebellion which ironically would have been less likely had he been a tax resister!
Anyway, so much (disgareement) is obvious; we do agree on the corruptions introduced into the bible, and deliberately and in my view only some times by good intention, however... to find what was so will be going on for years and I look forward to new discovery- I don't have time to keep up to date on everything, which is nearly the same as dismissing it, so it's good to talk from time to time.
The "Irish" hated the "English" because it was the english who caused them so much trouble in Ireland. In England, the english poor didn't hate themselves, but more specifically hated the "idle [english] rich" (the "english" being redundant there). Same bunch of people, different appellations and also connotations.
I see how you are wary of christian [fundamentalists]; calling myself a christian I am afraid of "mad freakers", but I think its the same bunch of people we are both looking at; or folk very like them.
No, there isn't. Not in this life. Well, unless he felt like actually showing himself to the world,...
which was, incidentally, my point.
If he's a god, it's within his power to provide proof that will satisfy everybody.
Yes, but within the contraints of the purpose of this brief life, the answer is "only to those who seek him." Sure he could just show himself right now to the whole world in one go, but it would be a waste of the purpose of life.
The question remains; are all those people who say they have come to know God (tried the experiemt) making it up? Deceived?
Yes.
Your may forgive them for thinking that the evidence on which you base that claim is less than the evidence they have for that claim. It seems strange to claim that millions of people are deceived on the grounds that you have no experience of what the claim to be the origin of their conviction.
The vast majority never had the opportunity to make a free choice since they were told from birth that it's the absolute truth and anybody who says otherwise is evil and will burn. Very sad, but true nonetheless.
I insist that this is factually incorrect; I don;t know ANYONE who says or any religion that teaches that those who have not accepted god are evil, or will burn. Now, this is different for those who REJECT god.
I happen to know their is a God who loves me but the knowedge didn't come from any pure reason that I can manage, or for free.
No, you happen to believe that.
beg pardon; you happen to believe that I only believe but don't know, on the other hand I have the advantage of being able to check:-)
If it makes you happy, then more power to you. I have no problems with that whatsoever. My only problem is when people think their beliefs give them the right to force them on others.
I would agree with you there, and suggest that force is contrary to the nature of God, hence the need to seek him in this life.
Please note that I'm not accusing you of any such thing.
Thanks for being civil in this discussion, I'm often afraid that my attitude is brusque and hope things don't become a flamefest.
I respect your position and intend only to say "I don't see myself how most anti-religionists see me, and I hate the parts of so-called religion that they hate"
err.... "look at where I said: In the way you mean"; I may have to disagree with you on whether or not "day" meant 24 hours.
However I am in agreement about "evolution" being incompatable with the bible; as you say evolution indicates death was always present and I agree that Adam was created as immortal.
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It's good that you address these points; so do I
Wow, have you even opened the damn book? I mean, without your bible study group to cherry pick the passages and explain away all the glaring inconsistencies? The bible is not consistent with history,
neither is history
archeology,
neither is archeology
anthropology,
neither is history or archeology. I don't think you are getting anywhere with such vague assertions. I wonder if you include "biblical" "history" "archeology" and "anthropology", as it clearly has real and historical authorship
physics,
I'd like to see what you have, here
any coherent system of ethics,
I think you shot yourself with "any", but I contest the point without that word
or even with itself! #lameness filter lint
It's about as self-consistent as most anthropoligical, archealogical or historical sources of similar size and date whichever way you slice it; which isn't bad considering it went through some editing work during its lifetime.
There are two completely different versions of the creation myth
different stories of Jesus' death and resurrection, while Paul never mentions the resurrection once--probably
this must be some special use of the world probably, I would say that "possibily" that in the writings we actually have of Paul (yes we know some are missing) he didn't attempt to give an account. It's not like he was there at the time, or like he was trying to do a historical report like Luke, is it?
because the myth of the resurrection was not widely adopted till after his death.
The "myth" was prophesied long before his birth.
In fact, the original sources
there are no "original sources" unless you found a stash recently
for the gospels consist of aphorisms, he-said they-said...without a word about what Jesus did or about what happened to him. Look up the Gospel of Thomas if you want to see the original format of the gospels.
I guess that be a copy of something claiming to be the Gospel of Thomas and not any other original copies of any other gospels at all? How is a not-really-original copy of Thomas gospel even nearly equivalent to "the original sources">
The story of his life was filled in later, #lameness filter lint
The gospels weren't written till decades after they occurred, yes.
and in the grand tradition of hellenistic heroes, he was made the son of a god.
Are you trying to make out that this wasn't one of the reasons he was crucified, for blasphemously claiming to be the Son of God?
Of the four gospels the sermon on the mount is the only part that everyone agrees is probably accurate.
I may have to call on you to exband on this word "everyone", and also "accurate". I suspect that for "accurate" you mean without dispute over the documented event, what is more interesting is what is disuputed; we expect disputes over historical records.
There is a proof in God, but if you want to experience the proof, you have to work it out for yourself. Like most experiments, you are part of the apparatus and the experiemtn may change your nature.
If God will manifest himself to you, then you have proof. If he does not, you still have no proof.
The question remains; are all those people who say they have come to know God (tried the experiemt) making it up? Deceived? Or have they found something really really worth knowing. They are some experiments to try THAT question, the answer (if successful) is usually "hmmmmm.... I'm listening" leading on to the main experiment.
The minor experiment is to ask from time to time about people: "Does their life incline me to think that perhaps their might be a God worth knowing after all?" When your answer is hard to give its time to try out the main experiment. Rinse and repeat till you find it.
I happen to know their is a God who loves me but the knowedge didn't come from any pure reason that I can manage, or for free.
Exodus does NOT teach a literal six day creation in the way you mean, especially seen as the dividing the light from the dark into day and night was one of the creative acts.
However, if it gives you comfort to think that most Christians and Jews believe that and have closed their own eyes in the face of being so foolishly wrong, so be it. You will just be closing your eyes in the face of being so foolishly wrong.
There MAY be problems with Christianity or Judiasm, but do you reeeellly think none of the Christians or Jews have looked at that before? Find the state-of-the-philosophy first and then start picking holes.
I should have guessed that the supplied mains charger DIDN'T do any USB negotiation so that it should be possible also to spoof it on my car/usb adaptor.
I have slowly destoryed a P800 and P900 by charging with non-approved USB charger cables.
I'm now on an Orange SPV C550 which is designed to charge via US, but unlike previous smartphones, this seems to do some USB neogitation before it starts to charge. My PC needs to be booted, and my 12V car-lighter:USB adaptor wont charge it.
There is no social stigma to "rich" hackers having one.
Folk will get one and then claim to be a software developer for the project and vastly increase their sex appeal from the mere geek-world to include all the NGO's and aid-agency volunteers too!
Yay!
There may be a social stigma to 3rd world people having one.
Of course, you know the answer... because they don't really care.
Most people shop on price and get indignant and surprised when it turns out to be recycled reject dogmeat from Carolina while the slaughterhouse down the road that hires their next door neighbour goes out of business.
Of couse they "would" buy on quality if someone else will tell them for sure where to get it cheaply.
The same people who rely on a computer icon to tell them that a message is trusted, and an email.sig to tell them it is virus free.
Sadly, you are right... could... but don't.
One of the reasons is: too busy long hours overtaxed tired Another is: idle bum do it for me I know my rights
Interesting that it takes religion to motivate "people" to take some responsibility for their temporal salvation. (Yes, or the great philanthropic reformers)
Keep opening/closing braces on their own line. - Yet another readability issue.
also one of dispite; I prefer it the other way:
if (blah) {
something(); } else {
somethingElse(); }
However, without getting into a holy war over it, the less information each source line contains, the bigger your diff context needs to be when patching, or the more likely you are to run into patch ambiguities later,
How much bigger the diff context needs to be is left as an excercise for information theory students.
While copying from open source programs instead of closed source programs does not as such make anything a paragon of innovation, perl and apache are both paragons of innovation both in themselves and through hosting so much innovation.
I went for an interview at a large ISp based in Sheffield. I'd been to an open day a few days before and received a very mixed message of: "We're cool and reward you well" to "We make you work long long hours, but you don't have to really if you don't want to, but we just all do"
To me the message was mixed because one of the main rewards I want is to get to go home at a sane hour and have some time apart from work and sleep..
The company gave you breakfast if you were there at 7.00am and a cookied dinner at your desk if you were there at 6.00pm (or some such hour).
I liked the company and the ethos, or so I thought, I just needed to get them to say "9 till 5 is OK ! REALLY!"
For me, coding is a highly creative thing and productivity can't be squeezed out of me, I just end up wasting time; when its time to go, I need to go, and think about it on the way home, in the shower, during the blessing on the dinner etc. and I'm all the quicker the next day.
In order to show me how flexible they were they told me a story which went something like this: A coder came in at 3.00am cos he needed to do something important and by around 3.pm he said to the manager that his head was a bit cooked since he'd been in since 3.00am. The point of the story was to show me how generous mangement were when they said "Thats ok, go and drive around for half an hour to clear you head" !!
I asked "What if he'd said: "My head is cooked, I've been in since 3.00am can I go home?" HR in the inteview said "That would be OK, if it didn't keep happening" !! Darn right it would! I'd not come in at that time if I still had to work till end of play!
So I got the idea that they wanted all my time. Some of the "rewards" like karting or paintball you had to do in your own time too. *I* don't have much "your own time" it all belongs to my company or my family, then church and various community groups.
That, combined with the fact that they mislead the agency over the salary really closed it for me.
I since got a much nicer job only 10 minutes walk from home with an excellent boss and colleagues, all of whom have a life outside work.
Another thing my current boss offers candidates is a chance to call one of us so they can get our opinion of the place.
[12] 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - = [13] Q F W P G J L U Y K [ ] \ [10] A S R T D H N E I O [10] Z X C V B ; M , . /
is ALMOST congruent with my UK keyboard layout, BUT having a different number of keys on each row, being: (ignoring special keys like backspace, enter, tab, shift etc)
[13] ` 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - = [12] Q W E R T Y U I O P [ ] [12] A S D F G H J K L ; ' # [11] \ Z X C V B N M , . /
A test re-mapping comes to
[13] ` 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - = [12] Q F W P G J L U Y K [ ] (Dropped \ to last row) [12] A S R T D H N E I O ' # [11] \ Z X C V B ; M , . /
I may give it a go.... I have enough usb and wireless keyboards at home (including with build in mouse-joystick and tray-like handles) that I can just swap keyboards if I need to.
heh; I wasn't mocking you, I was speaking literally.
I'm not prepared to put up with gnome hell on the grounds that a lucky few will be happy most of the time, and a lucky some will be happy some of the time.
I want gnome to do things my way, but right now its too stunted and obscure. ^L and ^H indeed!
I don't know how the gnome save dialog ended up like that; it looks kack and is too hard to use. Some kind gnome contributor had to tell me about the secret ^L keystroke so I could paste a path into a file dialog. WTH?
I like the outlook save dialog (not the new office save dialogs).
If you want to type or paste a whole path though, you have to press ^L first. Let somebody guess that if they can.
I have to agree with Linus here, gnome looks nicest and I use it, but I hate it. It makes it too hard or impossible to do some things, and is simple to the point of idiocy.
KDE looks kack on the other hand and is a dog to program in with its compiler compiler; so I won't touch it.
Aye; the trouble is haing the game publishers recognize the difference between a second hand sale and the kid buying his own new shiney computer when he leaves home.
I've noticed charity shops (thrift stores) in the UK making similar mistakes and most are now charging quite a high price for their stuff, with books going for up to 2 pounds (4 dollars) instead of 20p (~50 cents).
I've only got so much money in my pocket to spend when I pop into a charity shop, I don't magically get more money because the prices have gone up. Instead I start to compare prices with publishers outlets and things and end up spending less money in the charity shop - I don't know whether or not the strategy works out well for the shop overall.
I'm not "complaining" just pointing out that charity shops hardly get any of my money these days. (For me charity shops are a purely commercial experience, I don't like to mix charity giving with buying from charity shops)
As for ganes, I'm short on time. Battlefield2 goes for around 25 UKP, I hae a copy a friend gave me (he didn't have the time to play it), and having played it I can see that I would want to buy it, and at that price I would linge at the boundary for a log time, so I am glad it was given to me.
I still only have time to play battlefield2 for a couple of hours a month and thats what makes modern games hard to value, the time it takes to get your moneys worth.
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I do think the stories of miracles don't contradict "physics" and they are comparable to a lot of stuff the science fiction writers like to imagine folk doing.
The egyptian reconciling of egpytian archeology with current calendars was still strongly debated last time I looked, and nothing was conclusive then.
Jesus certainly was not the son of Joseph and as you point out, has his ancestry of David through his mother, I suspect you don't want to go into this, but I am satisified that the geneology holds up. A quick google shows enough backing for those who are interested.
We may argue about which way the bible has been corrupted (lets not, on second thoughts) but I insist that foreknowledge of the mission of Christ has been shoehorned OUT of scripture; however the NT claims that not only Christ was ressurected but so were many who were seen by many. I'm happy for you not to accept this, but I can't let it pass that what is left of the divinity of Christ in scripture has been trivially retrofitted.
For sure there has been a head on collision and what was left of the Christian church was very pliable after the loss of the apostles.
As for Pilate and the death of Christ, it was pilates view that he was not a direct danger to the authority of Rome, nor a tax resister, he was sentenced in order to placate a Jewish rebellion which ironically would have been less likely had he been a tax resister!
Anyway, so much (disgareement) is obvious; we do agree on the corruptions introduced into the bible, and deliberately and in my view only some times by good intention, however... to find what was so will be going on for years and I look forward to new discovery- I don't have time to keep up to date on everything, which is nearly the same as dismissing it, so it's good to talk from time to time.
thanks for the discussion
Sam
I think our differences come down to this:
The "Irish" hated the "English" because it was the english who caused them so much trouble in Ireland.
In England, the english poor didn't hate themselves, but more specifically hated the "idle [english] rich" (the "english" being redundant there).
Same bunch of people, different appellations and also connotations.
I see how you are wary of christian [fundamentalists]; calling myself a christian I am afraid of "mad freakers", but I think its the same bunch of people we are both looking at; or folk very like them.
Sam
which was, incidentally, my point.
Yes, but within the contraints of the purpose of this brief life, the answer is "only to those who seek him." Sure he could just show himself right now to the whole world in one go, but it would be a waste of the purpose of life.
Your may forgive them for thinking that the evidence on which you base that claim is less than the evidence they have for that claim.
It seems strange to claim that millions of people are deceived on the grounds that you have no experience of what the claim to be the origin of their conviction.
I insist that this is factually incorrect; I don;t know ANYONE who says or any religion that teaches that those who have not accepted god are evil, or will burn. Now, this is different for those who REJECT god.
beg pardon; you happen to believe that I only believe but don't know, on the other hand I have the advantage of being able to check
I would agree with you there, and suggest that force is contrary to the nature of God, hence the need to seek him in this life.
Thanks for being civil in this discussion, I'm often afraid that my attitude is brusque and hope things don't become a flamefest.
I respect your position and intend only to say "I don't see myself how most anti-religionists see me, and I hate the parts of so-called religion that they hate"
cheers
Sam
err.... "look at where I said: In the way you mean"; I may have to disagree with you on whether or not "day" meant 24 hours.
However I am in agreement about "evolution" being incompatable with the bible; as you say evolution indicates death was always present and I agree that Adam was created as immortal.
Sam
It's good that you address these points; so do I
neither is history
neither is archeology
neither is history or archeology. I don't think you are getting anywhere with such vague assertions. I wonder if you include "biblical" "history" "archeology" and "anthropology", as it clearly has real and historical authorship
I'd like to see what you have, here
I think you shot yourself with "any", but I contest the point without that word
It's about as self-consistent as most anthropoligical, archealogical or historical sources of similar size and date whichever way you slice it; which isn't bad considering it went through some editing work during its lifetime.
The mormons have even more accounts, however...
Or even three
not wildly, about as much as many sources
this must be some special use of the world probably, I would say that "possibily" that in the writings we actually have of Paul (yes we know some are missing) he didn't attempt to give an account. It's not like he was there at the time, or like he was trying to do a historical report like Luke, is it?
The "myth" was prophesied long before his birth.
there are no "original sources" unless you found a stash recently
I guess that be a copy of something claiming to be the Gospel of Thomas and not any other original copies of any other gospels at all? How is a not-really-original copy of Thomas gospel even nearly equivalent to "the original sources">
The gospels weren't written till decades after they occurred, yes.
Are you trying to make out that this wasn't one of the reasons he was crucified, for blasphemously claiming to be the Son of God?
I may have to call on you to exband on this word "everyone", and also "accurate". I suspect that for "accurate" you mean without dispute over the documented event, what is more interesting is what is disuputed; we expect disputes over historical records.
There is a proof in God, but if you want to experience the proof, you have to work it out for yourself. Like most experiments, you are part of the apparatus and the experiemtn may change your nature.
If God will manifest himself to you, then you have proof. If he does not, you still have no proof.
The question remains; are all those people who say they have come to know God (tried the experiemt) making it up? Deceived? Or have they found something really really worth knowing. They are some experiments to try THAT question, the answer (if successful) is usually "hmmmmm.... I'm listening" leading on to the main experiment.
The minor experiment is to ask from time to time about people: "Does their life incline me to think that perhaps their might be a God worth knowing after all?" When your answer is hard to give its time to try out the main experiment. Rinse and repeat till you find it.
I happen to know their is a God who loves me but the knowedge didn't come from any pure reason that I can manage, or for free.
Sam
Exodus does NOT teach a literal six day creation in the way you mean, especially seen as the dividing the light from the dark into day and night was one of the creative acts.
However, if it gives you comfort to think that most Christians and Jews believe that and have closed their own eyes in the face of being so foolishly wrong, so be it. You will just be closing your eyes in the face of being so foolishly wrong.
There MAY be problems with Christianity or Judiasm, but do you reeeellly think none of the Christians or Jews have looked at that before? Find the state-of-the-philosophy first and then start picking holes.
Sam
Don't deep link, merely post the text of the URL you WOULD have linked to.
*cough*
And take advertising from companies offering browser plugins that automatically turn URLs back to links.
Can this even be done with alternate style sheets?
Sam
Ah top tip; thanks.
I should have guessed that the supplied mains charger DIDN'T do any USB negotiation so that it should be possible also to spoof it on my car/usb adaptor.
I'll check modaco, thanks.
Sam
I have slowly destoryed a P800 and P900 by charging with non-approved USB charger cables.
I'm now on an Orange SPV C550 which is designed to charge via US, but unlike previous smartphones, this seems to do some USB neogitation before it starts to charge. My PC needs to be booted, and my 12V car-lighter:USB adaptor wont charge it.
Sam
There is no social stigma to "rich" hackers having one.
Folk will get one and then claim to be a software developer for the project and vastly increase their sex appeal from the mere geek-world to include all the NGO's and aid-agency volunteers too!
Yay!
There may be a social stigma to 3rd world people having one.
As Nelson would say: "Ha ha! You're poor!"
Sam
why can't the other 99.5%?
.sig to tell them it is virus free.
Of course, you know the answer... because they don't really care.
Most people shop on price and get indignant and surprised when it turns out to be recycled reject dogmeat from Carolina while the slaughterhouse down the road that hires their next door neighbour goes out of business.
Of couse they "would" buy on quality if someone else will tell them for sure where to get it cheaply.
The same people who rely on a computer icon to tell them that a message is trusted, and an email
Sadly, you are right... could... but don't.
One of the reasons is: too busy long hours overtaxed tired
Another is: idle bum do it for me I know my rights
Interesting that it takes religion to motivate "people" to take some responsibility for their temporal salvation.
(Yes, or the great philanthropic reformers)
Sam
Keep opening/closing braces on their own line. - Yet another readability issue.
also one of dispite; I prefer it the other way:
if (blah) {
something();
} else {
somethingElse();
}
However, without getting into a holy war over it, the less information each source line contains, the bigger your diff context needs to be when patching, or the more likely you are to run into patch ambiguities later,
How much bigger the diff context needs to be is left as an excercise for information theory students.
Sam
I think its more of:
"You're very funny... thats the first time I heard that joke... - TODAY"
Sam
While copying from open source programs instead of closed source programs does not as such make anything a paragon of innovation, perl and apache are both paragons of innovation both in themselves and through hosting so much innovation.
Sam
I went for an interview at a large ISp based in Sheffield. I'd been to an open day a few days before and received a very mixed message of:
"We're cool and reward you well" to "We make you work long long hours, but you don't have to really if you don't want to, but we just all do"
To me the message was mixed because one of the main rewards I want is to get to go home at a sane hour and have some time apart from work and sleep..
The company gave you breakfast if you were there at 7.00am and a cookied dinner at your desk if you were there at 6.00pm (or some such hour).
I liked the company and the ethos, or so I thought, I just needed to get them to say "9 till 5 is OK ! REALLY!"
For me, coding is a highly creative thing and productivity can't be squeezed out of me, I just end up wasting time; when its time to go, I need to go, and think about it on the way home, in the shower, during the blessing on the dinner etc. and I'm all the quicker the next day.
In order to show me how flexible they were they told me a story which went something like this: A coder came in at 3.00am cos he needed to do something important and by around 3.pm he said to the manager that his head was a bit cooked since he'd been in since 3.00am. The point of the story was to show me how generous mangement were when they said "Thats ok, go and drive around for half an hour to clear you head" !!
I asked "What if he'd said: "My head is cooked, I've been in since 3.00am can I go home?" HR in the inteview said "That would be OK, if it didn't keep happening" !! Darn right it would! I'd not come in at that time if I still had to work till end of play!
So I got the idea that they wanted all my time. Some of the "rewards" like karting or paintball you had to do in your own time too. *I* don't have much "your own time" it all belongs to my company or my family, then church and various community groups.
That, combined with the fact that they mislead the agency over the salary really closed it for me.
I since got a much nicer job only 10 minutes walk from home with an excellent boss and colleagues, all of whom have a life outside work.
Another thing my current boss offers candidates is a chance to call one of us so they can get our opinion of the place.
Sam
the colmak layout:
[12] 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - =
[13] Q F W P G J L U Y K [ ] \
[10] A S R T D H N E I O
[10] Z X C V B ; M , . /
is ALMOST congruent with my UK keyboard layout, BUT having a different number of keys on each row, being:
(ignoring special keys like backspace, enter, tab, shift etc)
[13] ` 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - =
[12] Q W E R T Y U I O P [ ]
[12] A S D F G H J K L ; ' #
[11] \ Z X C V B N M , . /
A test re-mapping comes to
[13] ` 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - =
[12] Q F W P G J L U Y K [ ] (Dropped \ to last row)
[12] A S R T D H N E I O ' #
[11] \ Z X C V B ; M , . /
I may give it a go.... I have enough usb and wireless keyboards at home (including with build in mouse-joystick and tray-like handles) that I can just swap keyboards if I need to.
Sam
heh; I wasn't mocking you, I was speaking literally.
I'm not prepared to put up with gnome hell on the grounds that a lucky few will be happy most of the time, and a lucky some will be happy some of the time.
I want gnome to do things my way, but right now its too stunted and obscure. ^L and ^H indeed!
Sam
I agree, more than one way is a horrible udea... ...as long as the one way is MY way...
Sam
Linus is nearly irrelevant. A from-scratch kernel could be implemented in two years or less.
Would that we could all have 2 years of global relevance ahead of us...
I don't know how the gnome save dialog ended up like that; it looks kack and is too hard to use.
Some kind gnome contributor had to tell me about the secret ^L keystroke so I could paste a path into a file dialog. WTH?
I like the outlook save dialog (not the new office save dialogs).
Sam
You are right.
I use gnome and I absolutely hate it
KDE is slick like a spiv and a used car salesman.
Gnome is nice, but like an old WW2 veteran.
So I use gnome... (idiots)
Sam
If you want to type or paste a whole path though, you have to press ^L first. Let somebody guess that if they can.
I have to agree with Linus here, gnome looks nicest and I use it, but I hate it.
It makes it too hard or impossible to do some things, and is simple to the point of idiocy.
KDE looks kack on the other hand and is a dog to program in with its compiler compiler; so I won't touch it.
Sam
Aye; the trouble is haing the game publishers recognize the difference between a second hand sale and the kid buying his own new shiney computer when he leaves home.
Sam
I've noticed charity shops (thrift stores) in the UK making similar mistakes and most are now charging quite a high price for their stuff, with books going for up to 2 pounds (4 dollars) instead of 20p (~50 cents).
I've only got so much money in my pocket to spend when I pop into a charity shop, I don't magically get more money because the prices have gone up. Instead I start to compare prices with publishers outlets and things and end up spending less money in the charity shop - I don't know whether or not the strategy works out well for the shop overall.
I'm not "complaining" just pointing out that charity shops hardly get any of my money these days.
(For me charity shops are a purely commercial experience, I don't like to mix charity giving with buying from charity shops)
As for ganes, I'm short on time. Battlefield2 goes for around 25 UKP, I hae a copy a friend gave me (he didn't have the time to play it), and having played it I can see that I would want to buy it, and at that price I would linge at the boundary for a log time, so I am glad it was given to me.
I still only have time to play battlefield2 for a couple of hours a month and thats what makes modern games hard to value, the time it takes to get your moneys worth.
Sam