Look, I haven't been preaching any dogma in this discussion, I only pointed out what I thought the real question was that was being hidden:
"In some cases telling a woman what she can do to someone else [the baby/foetus] is abridgment of her freedom."
However, if the euphamistically called "pro-choice" group have to hide that fact and phrase it as:
"Telling a woman what she can do to herself is abridgment of freedom"
then it indicates that this fact is something they want to hide and is something they are ashamed of or embarrassed about.
If the pro-choice group think having an abortion is fine, then why hide what it is? That's my point and my only point in this discussion today and it's hardly any kind of dogma, its a question.
I haven't said if it is a good thing or a bad thing, I've just said what it really is, and it's a question of when killing is acceptable and acknowledgement that it is someone elses body being chopped up. To stifle the _question_ because of a womans rights is curious.
I don't intend to get into a long discussion right now that has been done to death elsewhere I thought to add something new which is to question why the pro-choice try to veil what abortion really is as they try to make it acceptable, as if they thihnk plain language makes it look bad.
I don't say that debaters never should choose their language carefully, of course they should, but the choice of langauge also reveals what is being hidden, hency my question:
if abortion is OK, why try to hide what it is? Why pretend it is only about the choice of of what a woman does with her own body as if the doctor isn't chopping up and removing another body from hers?
If you support abortion, just don't be ashamed of the facts, admit it for what it is. Thats all I'm saying.
I don't support it is a general practice which is perhaps why I'm able to see this anomoly more clearly.
Perhaps accidentally you are hiding behind biased language; why not start out by saying:
In some cases telling a woman what she can do to someone else is abridgment of her freedom.
The statement " Telling a woman what she can do to herself is abridgment of freedom" is true, but minimizes the fact that the abortion is done to someone else, not herself.
I'mn trying not to read your opinion into this, I just don't want to disguise what the issue is really about: I would rather kill this baby than carry it. Let the world discuss it, but let the world also admit the question for what it is; the freedom of what to do with someone elses body as well as her own.
Use, web, weave and tangle, the famous tools behind Knuth's literate programming mindset.
Instead of writing code and not commenting it, you write a book on what you want your code to do, littered with examples of how it works and justifying why, and the tools somehow produces the C files and compile the library for you.
At least its something like that, the weave documentation didn't seem clear enough at the time for me to get it to do anything useful. *cough* I needed instructions not why's and because's
Yeah, line was cool. It was never going to "work" with many linux apps for the same reason that debian/cygwin failed.
The windows file system semantics are too kack and too much software is written with unix-style sematics assumed, i.e. case-sensitive, delete or rename in-use files, etc.
I got really excited when I first saw it but it is plain why they stopped after proof of concept.
but unless your app is heavily CPU bound it will probably stick to its home node.
If the app does much io, like say, processing batches postscript files, it will probably stay in its home node maybe unless you manage to get global block devices working to convince mosix that the io is as good from anynode.
Mosix sounds good because you don't have to "do" anything special but most apps won't benefit from it.
It will be hard to craft some exploit code using only the - character.
It may DOS and cause instability; as for those "but, open source should be proof against this" nay-sayers, I'm pretty certain from the advisory that this could only be properly discovered because the source was available.
hmmmm, maybe if you can trick users to click on bad links a few times it might cause heap corruption and crashing; maybe if you get them to download the right page a few times to pre-load the heap, and then a few ----- might cause the browser to execute from the heap,
A look at the soucre will show the consequences of this and show what sort of pathway there is to arbitrary code execution. I guess it could be exploitable...
He should have put up a paypal page to get people to pay $1 to play the game if they came from the Fud.
What an opportunity wasted for a developer.
He could have sold branded exhanced versions of the game to fudruckers to put on their own side, with burger discounts for folk who reach new high scores etc.
He sure missed the (3) ??? and therefore the (4) profit.
Shame! He shoulda read slashdot more often, then he would have known what to do.
$120K may not be the price of a "possibloe" loss of life, but if there are two pools in town, and one has the system and one doesn't, the other pool may need to buy one to save their business.
For public pools, if citizens want one, they get it and pay for it. Maybe the next mayor or councillor will promise it just before election to show that they care more than the current bunch in power.
When I worked at a media company that was bought by a mobile phone network, the suppliers of football photographs declared that although we had rights to the images for internet use we did not have rights for "mobile" use, despite the fact that the mobile phones were merely accessing a website over the internet, using GSM or GPRS.
Its what happens when lawers don't understand technology. Or... perhaps playing dumb can be profitable.
I studied part time over 8 years and got a degree in computing with the open university (www.open.ac.uk. OK, I knew the stuff I was doing anyway (mostly) I just wanted the paper to prove it.
Why did I drop out? I should have done computing instead of Physical Electronics (I made a diode), but as I was not a quitter I kept at it until it was too late to switch without losing my grant, and I couldn't afford to stay on.
I worked my way up from PCB assembly until I was writing key software for the Orange/Microsoft flagship smartphones AFTER which I finally completed my degree.
I now work on bandwidth management products for a new-ish company that I hope you will all hear about one day.
May need to get a Washington PO box for all I know.... to spoof the system
I got some of my best new music from there including Them Eastport Oyster Boys, Debi Smith and David A Alberding (all in the "Folk" section, but its not the folk my parents knew), also Meleket a cool Reggae group.
OK, its not the ENTIRE solution but your next big problem would have been how to get folk to your website, well the Washington Post website already hads tonnes of visitors, who won't be looking for your music but may try it anyway.
i.e. one of the layers is the eletrical signal in the wires, with things such as voiltage levels, cable impedance etc, how 1 and 0 will be represented etc.
The other layer is the logical interpretation, meaning the packet/frame structure of the digital that signal encoded onto the wires, i.e. the 1's and 0's
Slashdot Mirror
Look, I haven't been preaching any dogma in this discussion, I only pointed out what I thought the real question was that was being hidden:
"In some cases telling a woman what she can do to someone else [the baby/foetus] is abridgment of her freedom."
However, if the euphamistically called "pro-choice" group have to hide that fact and phrase it as:
"Telling a woman what she can do to herself is abridgment of freedom"
then it indicates that this fact is something they want to hide and is something they are ashamed of or embarrassed about.
If the pro-choice group think having an abortion is fine, then why hide what it is? That's my point and my only point in this discussion today and it's hardly any kind of dogma, its a question.
I haven't said if it is a good thing or a bad thing, I've just said what it really is, and it's a question of when killing is acceptable and acknowledgement that it is someone elses body being chopped up. To stifle the _question_ because of a womans rights is curious.
I don't intend to get into a long discussion right now that has been done to death elsewhere I thought to add something new which is to question why the pro-choice try to veil what abortion really is as they try to make it acceptable, as if they thihnk plain language makes it look bad.
I don't say that debaters never should choose their language carefully, of course they should, but the choice of langauge also reveals what is being hidden, hency my question:
if abortion is OK, why try to hide what it is? Why pretend it is only about the choice of of what a woman does with her own body as if the doctor isn't chopping up and removing another body from hers?
If you support abortion, just don't be ashamed of the facts, admit it for what it is. Thats all I'm saying.
I don't support it is a general practice which is perhaps why I'm able to see this anomoly more clearly.
Sam
"*You* just made the issue about the baby. I was talking about..."
I know, I just wanted to respond to the subject rather than your position.
I guess I'm "pro-life" and I think its sad if it has to be legislated by the government.
Sam
Perhaps accidentally you are hiding behind biased language; why not start out by saying:
In some cases telling a woman what she can do to someone else is abridgment of her freedom.
The statement " Telling a woman what she can do to herself is abridgment of freedom" is true, but minimizes the fact that the abortion is done to someone else, not herself.
I'mn trying not to read your opinion into this, I just don't want to disguise what the issue is really about: I would rather kill this baby than carry it. Let the world discuss it, but let the world also admit the question for what it is; the freedom of what to do with someone elses body as well as her own.
Sam
sha1 creaky at the edges, which, AFAIK is used by GIT.
Perhaps SCO will get their source code into the kernel by financing SHA1 collisions?
Sam
Use, web, weave and tangle, the famous tools behind Knuth's literate programming mindset.
Instead of writing code and not commenting it, you write a book on what you want your code to do, littered with examples of how it works and justifying why, and the tools somehow produces the C files and compile the library for you.
At least its something like that, the weave documentation didn't seem clear enough at the time for me to get it to do anything useful. *cough* I needed instructions not why's and because's
However it looks like folk are doing something useful with it: http://www.ox.compsoc.net/~gemini/simons/webperl/
Yeah, line was cool.
It was never going to "work" with many linux apps for the same reason that debian/cygwin failed.
The windows file system semantics are too kack and too much software is written with unix-style sematics assumed, i.e. case-sensitive, delete or rename in-use files, etc.
I got really excited when I first saw it but it is plain why they stopped after proof of concept.
Sam
Someones job has been replaced by a small PHP script.
:-)
Shell script to follow
Sam
This is true;
but unless your app is heavily CPU bound it will probably stick to its home node.
If the app does much io, like say, processing batches postscript files, it will probably stay in its home node maybe unless you manage to get global block devices working to convince mosix that the io is as good from anynode.
Mosix sounds good because you don't have to "do" anything special but most apps won't benefit from it.
Perhaps your PSU is bad? Boot up and then apply a voltmeter to the outputs and see what you get.
San
As IE and Firefox are still subject to new releases we get A and B
Each bug is before the next release and after the previous releases.
I think you were trying to say "at least mozilla folk fix it in the next release"
Sam
Cos you don't want them to know that they've been exploited?
Sam
The bug depended on the host name being all ---
It will be hard to craft some exploit code using only the - character.
It may DOS and cause instability; as for those "but, open source should be proof against this" nay-sayers, I'm pretty certain from the advisory that this could only be properly discovered because the source was available.
hmmmm, maybe if you can trick users to click on bad links a few times it might cause heap corruption and crashing; maybe if you get them to download the right page a few times to pre-load the heap, and then a few ----- might cause the browser to execute from the heap,
A look at the soucre will show the consequences of this and show what sort of pathway there is to arbitrary code execution. I guess it could be exploitable...
Sam
Thats an excellent revenge!
Thanks for the tip!
Sam
So donate regularly to the EFF so they can take up your case for you.
I do.
Sam
SEQL was the precursor to SQL, it stood for Standard English Query Language.
If you call S-Q-L sequel, people will be expecting you to talk about C+ or even C- in your next breath.
OK, I am being unfair, but it always makes me cringe when people call SQL sequel.
Sam
No, profit! He didn't know that ??? should lead to profit.
Sam
He should have put up a paypal page to get people to pay $1 to play the game if they came from the Fud.
What an opportunity wasted for a developer.
He could have sold branded exhanced versions of the game to fudruckers to put on their own side, with burger discounts for folk who reach new high scores etc.
He sure missed the (3) ??? and therefore the (4) profit.
Shame! He shoulda read slashdot more often, then he would have known what to do.
Sam
$120K may not be the price of a "possibloe" loss of life, but if there are two pools in town, and one has the system and one doesn't, the other pool may need to buy one to save their business.
For public pools, if citizens want one, they get it and pay for it. Maybe the next mayor or councillor will promise it just before election to show that they care more than the current bunch in power.
The saying is: "worth every penny"
Sam
For text-based systems you can try and capture the printer output.
Serial is simplest, you would need some trickery to capture the parallel port.
Then some perl to decode the printer escape codes and re-apply formatting.
OK, its not ideal, but it may have the most certain "finish time" of all the options, if you can do it with a serial port.
Sam
When I worked at a media company that was bought by a mobile phone network, the suppliers of football photographs declared that although we had rights to the images for internet use we did not have rights for "mobile" use, despite the fact that the mobile phones were merely accessing a website over the internet, using GSM or GPRS.
Its what happens when lawers don't understand technology. Or... perhaps playing dumb can be profitable.
Sam
Hey!
Don't knock it, I'm a drop-out with a degree.
I studied part time over 8 years and got a degree in computing with the open university (www.open.ac.uk. OK, I knew the stuff I was doing anyway (mostly) I just wanted the paper to prove it.
Why did I drop out? I should have done computing instead of Physical Electronics (I made a diode), but as I was not a quitter I kept at it until it was too late to switch without losing my grant, and I couldn't afford to stay on.
I worked my way up from PCB assembly until I was writing key software for the Orange/Microsoft flagship smartphones AFTER which I finally completed my degree.
I now work on bandwidth management products for a new-ish company that I hope you will all hear about one day.
Sam
Put in your own recruitment ads using your team-building budget, but don't mention the company name.
Interview them, and if they pass, re-write their application and resume so that HR will hire.
Its more work than you should have to do, but it gets the results you want.
Sam
mp3.washingtonpost.com
May need to get a Washington PO box for all I know.... to spoof the system
I got some of my best new music from there including Them Eastport Oyster Boys, Debi Smith and David A Alberding (all in the "Folk" section, but its not the folk my parents knew), also Meleket a cool Reggae group.
OK, its not the ENTIRE solution but your next big problem would have been how to get folk to your website, well the Washington Post website already hads tonnes of visitors, who won't be looking for your music but may try it anyway.
Sam
i.e. one of the layers is the eletrical signal in the wires, with things such as voiltage levels, cable impedance etc, how 1 and 0 will be represented etc.
The other layer is the logical interpretation, meaning the packet/frame structure of the digital that signal encoded onto the wires, i.e. the 1's and 0's
Sam