Similar in scale to china's "great firewall", is the "PRiSM", the NSA's mass surviallence program, and counter-intellegence programs both public and private, to keep content favorable to the US government and member corporations, as well as harrass the fuck out of dissidents, as well as impose draconian copyright enforcement world wide.
The only diffrence between countries that censor the internet, and those who don't, is the ability or inability to do internet-wide intellegence/counter-intellegence operations.
I think its time to lay some fiber in cuba, and if the thaw is real, and has any perminance, run some undersea fiber between florida and cuba. If anything, that will help add perminance to the thaw.
Was he one of the 53 "political prisoners" released from jail right after the US opened their embassy? Do you even know his name?
Let's start with forcing the Cuban Government to take bi-polar meds first?
No, its a change of policy. We screamed for years about trying to get the Cuban government to change its policy to a more social libertarian one, and they finally start making moves in the direction, and we call them crazy. No sir.
This is a step in the right direction. No need for hostilities.
"Piracy" a pejorative meant to associate copyright infringement with theft
It just so happened, that just as the "piracy" debate was gaining traction, so was the cartoonized image of a "pirate" depicted in media in the "pirates vs ninjas", a send up over two hilariously carcatured media stereotypes about brigands from the past of two seperate civilizations. Both were seen as virtuous, and the "pirate" gained a fun, safe positive conotation.
before you insert race on this, know that red light cameras are basicly a tax that hits the city's poorest residents the hardest. Cops don't write nearly as many tickets as red light cameras, and your argument is bunk. Your basicly trying to use a race paradigm to prop up what is a broken law, that if anything, hurts the poor the most.
The problem is that these things issue tickets with impunity knowing that even if they are wrong, most people can't afford to fight the ticket, so they win by default.
Its another excuse to put cameras in public, controlled by the police.
The politically privledged class of the lawyer, of which all rules are bent to revolve around him. There is not "rule of law", rather "law is only meant to protect the lawyers", to include those in office. Everyone elses political status stems from how usefully we are to this lawyer aristocracy.
I think its more "actual terrorism" is more important issue than your silly little #gamergate debate.
There is nothing in #gamergate nearly as serious as an actual act of terrorism and death threats that are very specific, including very specific refrences to real weapons.
Thats actual terrorism. Whatever debate you were having on ethics is not nearly as important as terrorism.
is technically challenging to do as the internet can be anonymous.
not to people who are wiretapping the entire internet.:) All traffic everyone has sent for the last 10 years, is in one giant class cube in utah. If that is not good enough they can show up and demand data from ISPs, and put tapes on lines in datacenters, or install monitoring agent on the server of whatever computer whatever side is hosting #GG content.
unless its all on TOR or I2P, its being tracked.
Even if it wasn't, they can do word analysis to match potential authors, then look for details about a person's life and try and match that to the fairly accurate profiles they have on just about anyone, they've gotten from buying/stealing advertising data using shell companies.
Even if it wasn't, these people are no experts, and is still subject to traditional intellegence gathering/undercover police work.
Even if they can't, if they want to arrest people, they just need to find out who is part of gamergate, they can get from IP addresses of any servers hosting GG content, and then subopeneaning the ISP(which you will find out from a simple whois on the IP), into giving out subscriber information. Once they have names, they can find something to arrest them, and comb through everything until they can find charges that stick.
ironicly weev was just mysteriously let out of prison with all charges dropped, after comming out as a nazi with his new buddist(and not nazi) swastika.
Now the FBI is investigating, and it really is starting to look a whole lot like Weev is an asset of the federal government. This is beginning to look like a new Sabu/Anonymous all over again.
As for proof, you don't need proof in a witch hunt, especially with terrism charges.
I never supported #gamergate, but my concerns about an immediate overraction by the government are fairly real.
my dear boy, that is not how law enforcement actually works in this country. Start doing research on some actual criminal trials, especially those marked by 'undesirables', or people who don't get favorable opinions in the press for an independant investigation to be done. We'll start here.
Read, read, and read some more. But you are thinking to yourself, "these people are organized criminals, I'm not an organized criminal, I'l white middle class and upstanding", but you are now.
The FBI also is not going to waste time with an investigation without arresting anyone, and is not going to arrest anyone without a conviction, because that would make them look really silly if they did.
Why do you feel like "Gamergate" is worthy of additional mainstream news coverage?
because the FBI just got involved, being that the little lit mach in the corner harmlessly burning on concrete now has gasoline poured on it. We can be honest here, and this isn't really about sexism, or ethics in gaming journalism, its now about the system taking its fustration out on the people it sees as the biggest threat to its existance. This is going to be a gross over-reaction by the FBI, and its going to hit a dumb bunch of spoiled white kids who still think the FBI is there to protect them, and will exonerate them once they obviously see they are the upstanding half seriously concerned about ethics, and not the migogynistic terrorists.
The fuze on the drama-bomb is lit, and its going to go nuclear.
This stuff isnt newsworthy, its drama worthy of a GameFaqs messageboard or perhaps 4chan.
It wasn't until the FBI got involved. I didn't care about #gg until it got big enough that I had to take notice. Being old enough to remember the "goth panic" that resulted after the columbine shootings, I know that law enforcement, especially not the FBI isn't going to do any real investigations, and doesn't give two fucking shits about who's just a complainer, and who's a terrorist. We've recently proved that still matters with recent drone strikes. Their mentality is "let god sort 'em out", and if someone doesn't have the social capital for society to give them the benefit of the doubt instead of the FBI(which is mostly everyone, and people especially think of gamers as loosers), the FBI will just go hog wild and fuck their shit up. Like always this is going to turn into a witch-hunt.
This is really newsworthy, because if you're withing 2 or 3 degrees of seperation from gamergame, and you fit the horrid stereotype, or you're enough of a loner that don't have high status people to vouch for you, the FBI sees you as a victim to haul out in front of court to show the nation that "they got the bad guys". They seriously don't give a fuck about who did what, just as long as they have bodies, they can make up a narrative to satisfy the bloodlust. In their minds "you did someting anyway probably", and our justice system is horridly broken, and in federal cases the deck is horribly stacked against you, even more so.
Whats worse, is if you don't have groups like the EFF, or the ACLU do legal work to reveal the FBI's case, a lot of innocent people are going to get thrown in the mix, and what exactly happened won't even come out, until years later, if at all.
While I agree the people who made the death threats should be, and crossed a very real line between Free speech, and assault, put on trial; What your not going to see from this investigation is anything more than a witch-hunt.
I'm not worried, because I haven't done those things, nor have most other GG.
you should be worried because its the FBI, they have a lot of resources, and they don't give a fuck what you actually done. This is going to be a really good experiance for you on the effects class has with FBI investigations. You don't have to have done anything. They will find something to pin on you, and haul you before a court, and ruin your reputation, livelyhood and make you an outcast. Thats assuming you don't get charged with many of the guilty-by-association charges.
As far as "SJW"s, they are terrible people and massive hypocrits. Liberals true colors as capitalists show everytime this happens. Your ugly and your poor. the "SJW"s have connected organizations, and beautiful and rich celebrities. You are getting put on trial for being an outcast, nothing more.
I'd like to say its about misogyny, or women and minority rights, but sadly its not. Not a peep comes out of these liberals about the racism and sexism from either pop music, actors, or even hip hop. Even more grotesque is these are the same people they are using to dismiss your little movement.
Lets keep the attention on some loosers in the basement, because recent allegations of Bill Cosby raping little girls came back out, and Roman Polansky is looking to have his rape-of-a-13-year-old thrown out in court. Instead of any bit of outcry, you instead see rape apologists from people who should know better. We even have self-described socialists all hush hush about this bullshit too.
It seems in Capitalist America, morals are only relivant to how much status you have.
I think #gamergate is a gross over-reaction, but at the same time, its a bigger overreaction from the FBI, and stinks of a cover up.
He could have, but he didn't. Especially when defending what is traditionally viewed as a racist position.
Yes, it could be interpreted to be a racist statement too. Yet, the proper thing to do when something is ambiguous is to give people the benefit of doubt.
Is it now? Of course we'd all like to think so. But lets be honest, we are supposed to give some people and groups the benefit of the doubt, and other people and groups no benefit of the doubt, depending social bias. This bias is often erroniously generated from many sources, some intentional.
You didn't, you instead assumed the statement was racist and thus demonstrated nicely the propensity for flinging unsubstantiated accusations of racism around that several people have complained about.
You see what you want to see. I am guilty of not giving benefit of the doubt, where you wanted me to. This is one way prejudice works, being in where you give benefit of the doubt to things you favor.
I think the idea that the US is the sole evil force in the world, and all these other countries would be doing great if only we stopped messing with them, is romantic BS.
I think thats a strawman. No wait, it is a strawman, because thats not the point I made, its the point you wish I made.
Your concept of Freedom is. Well, hey, as long as there is a single other country on earth worse than us, we can do whatever we want and call it freedom, and then say everyone else "hates freedom".
Most people come here illegally because they are fleeing the problems caused either by US intervention abroad, or the effects of neo-liberal "free" trade, that destroyed their previous livelyhood, are more than willing to work for far less than both what Americans are, and less than min wage, and are made desperate enough not to care.
Congresscritters, at the behest of corporate intrests have legitimized a quasi-legal system where they are permitted to live here, but not afforded protection of labor laws, or any law, but exist in a grey legal area, big enough to profit off them by exploitment. Regardless of position, few if any people in congress are working towards a real solution to end the grey status of the millions of illegal workers.
The most perverse aspect of the system as it encourages seperatism, and uses the newly out of work natives as an enforcement body to keep the new indentured servant class in line.
Its a sick rotten system that needs fixing.
Ending free trade, the invulerbility of US based global corporations to local law, and stoping the exploitation of people in these countries that people emmegrate from is the only thing that is really going to help.
Automation under capitalism will always destroy jobs or make them pay less. If it didn't save the ownership money in labor, and a signifigant amount to reward the risk of trying something new, it would not even be considered.
The entire field is done to "cut labor costs", either pay people less somehow, or hire less people. You can play zero sum games all you want, but "less money spent on labor", is "less money spent on labor"
The internet was invented at US universities with public DARPA research dollars for the department of defense, and the people doing the writing where a bunch of hippies concerned about sharing data, willing to work the above, to get it built.
Th modern TCP/IP stack was written at the UC of Berkley by Bill Joy for BSD to be exact.
Before you keep going on and on about corporations and how they made everything good, go read some history.
good thing he's not in a position to gain this power anytime soon. So he's really not relivant.
Its time to stop making excuses that we can't have freedom because north korea exists or some other BS.
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The only diffrence between countries that censor the internet, and those who don't, is the ability or inability to do internet-wide intellegence/counter-intellegence operations.
I think its time to lay some fiber in cuba, and if the thaw is real, and has any perminance, run some undersea fiber between florida and cuba. If anything, that will help add perminance to the thaw.
Let's start with forcing the Cuban Government to take bi-polar meds first?
No, its a change of policy. We screamed for years about trying to get the Cuban government to change its policy to a more social libertarian one, and they finally start making moves in the direction, and we call them crazy. No sir. This is a step in the right direction. No need for hostilities.
changes nothing
"Piracy" a pejorative meant to associate copyright infringement with theft
It just so happened, that just as the "piracy" debate was gaining traction, so was the cartoonized image of a "pirate" depicted in media in the "pirates vs ninjas", a send up over two hilariously carcatured media stereotypes about brigands from the past of two seperate civilizations. Both were seen as virtuous, and the "pirate" gained a fun, safe positive conotation.
its basicly a tax, mostly on the poor, and anyone who can't fight the tickets in court. Its a tax without raising taxes, what the cities should do.
before you insert race on this, know that red light cameras are basicly a tax that hits the city's poorest residents the hardest. Cops don't write nearly as many tickets as red light cameras, and your argument is bunk. Your basicly trying to use a race paradigm to prop up what is a broken law, that if anything, hurts the poor the most. The problem is that these things issue tickets with impunity knowing that even if they are wrong, most people can't afford to fight the ticket, so they win by default. Its another excuse to put cameras in public, controlled by the police.
The politically privledged class of the lawyer, of which all rules are bent to revolve around him. There is not "rule of law", rather "law is only meant to protect the lawyers", to include those in office. Everyone elses political status stems from how usefully we are to this lawyer aristocracy.
as a libertarian socialist, I am not happy with liberals using socialist talking points to defend capitalism.
There is nothing in #gamergate nearly as serious as an actual act of terrorism and death threats that are very specific, including very specific refrences to real weapons.
Thats actual terrorism. Whatever debate you were having on ethics is not nearly as important as terrorism.
is technically challenging to do as the internet can be anonymous.
not to people who are wiretapping the entire internet. :) All traffic everyone has sent for the last 10 years, is in one giant class cube in utah. If that is not good enough they can show up and demand data from ISPs, and put tapes on lines in datacenters, or install monitoring agent on the server of whatever computer whatever side is hosting #GG content.
unless its all on TOR or I2P, its being tracked.
Even if it wasn't, they can do word analysis to match potential authors, then look for details about a person's life and try and match that to the fairly accurate profiles they have on just about anyone, they've gotten from buying/stealing advertising data using shell companies.
Even if it wasn't, these people are no experts, and is still subject to traditional intellegence gathering/undercover police work.
Even if they can't, if they want to arrest people, they just need to find out who is part of gamergate, they can get from IP addresses of any servers hosting GG content, and then subopeneaning the ISP(which you will find out from a simple whois on the IP), into giving out subscriber information. Once they have names, they can find something to arrest them, and comb through everything until they can find charges that stick.
Now the FBI is investigating, and it really is starting to look a whole lot like Weev is an asset of the federal government. This is beginning to look like a new Sabu/Anonymous all over again.
As for proof, you don't need proof in a witch hunt, especially with terrism charges.
I never supported #gamergate, but my concerns about an immediate overraction by the government are fairly real.
Read, read, and read some more. But you are thinking to yourself, "these people are organized criminals, I'm not an organized criminal, I'l white middle class and upstanding", but you are now.
The FBI also is not going to waste time with an investigation without arresting anyone, and is not going to arrest anyone without a conviction, because that would make them look really silly if they did.
Why do you feel like "Gamergate" is worthy of additional mainstream news coverage?
because the FBI just got involved, being that the little lit mach in the corner harmlessly burning on concrete now has gasoline poured on it. We can be honest here, and this isn't really about sexism, or ethics in gaming journalism, its now about the system taking its fustration out on the people it sees as the biggest threat to its existance. This is going to be a gross over-reaction by the FBI, and its going to hit a dumb bunch of spoiled white kids who still think the FBI is there to protect them, and will exonerate them once they obviously see they are the upstanding half seriously concerned about ethics, and not the migogynistic terrorists.
The fuze on the drama-bomb is lit, and its going to go nuclear.
What action has been taken against the reporters for accepting bribes, which seems a more damning charge?
This stuff isnt newsworthy, its drama worthy of a GameFaqs messageboard or perhaps 4chan.
It wasn't until the FBI got involved. I didn't care about #gg until it got big enough that I had to take notice. Being old enough to remember the "goth panic" that resulted after the columbine shootings, I know that law enforcement, especially not the FBI isn't going to do any real investigations, and doesn't give two fucking shits about who's just a complainer, and who's a terrorist. We've recently proved that still matters with recent drone strikes. Their mentality is "let god sort 'em out", and if someone doesn't have the social capital for society to give them the benefit of the doubt instead of the FBI(which is mostly everyone, and people especially think of gamers as loosers), the FBI will just go hog wild and fuck their shit up. Like always this is going to turn into a witch-hunt.
This is really newsworthy, because if you're withing 2 or 3 degrees of seperation from gamergame, and you fit the horrid stereotype, or you're enough of a loner that don't have high status people to vouch for you, the FBI sees you as a victim to haul out in front of court to show the nation that "they got the bad guys". They seriously don't give a fuck about who did what, just as long as they have bodies, they can make up a narrative to satisfy the bloodlust. In their minds "you did someting anyway probably", and our justice system is horridly broken, and in federal cases the deck is horribly stacked against you, even more so.
Whats worse, is if you don't have groups like the EFF, or the ACLU do legal work to reveal the FBI's case, a lot of innocent people are going to get thrown in the mix, and what exactly happened won't even come out, until years later, if at all.
While I agree the people who made the death threats should be, and crossed a very real line between Free speech, and assault, put on trial; What your not going to see from this investigation is anything more than a witch-hunt.
I'm not worried, because I haven't done those things, nor have most other GG.
you should be worried because its the FBI, they have a lot of resources, and they don't give a fuck what you actually done. This is going to be a really good experiance for you on the effects class has with FBI investigations. You don't have to have done anything. They will find something to pin on you, and haul you before a court, and ruin your reputation, livelyhood and make you an outcast. Thats assuming you don't get charged with many of the guilty-by-association charges.
As far as "SJW"s, they are terrible people and massive hypocrits. Liberals true colors as capitalists show everytime this happens. Your ugly and your poor. the "SJW"s have connected organizations, and beautiful and rich celebrities. You are getting put on trial for being an outcast, nothing more.
I'd like to say its about misogyny, or women and minority rights, but sadly its not. Not a peep comes out of these liberals about the racism and sexism from either pop music, actors, or even hip hop. Even more grotesque is these are the same people they are using to dismiss your little movement.
Lets keep the attention on some loosers in the basement, because recent allegations of Bill Cosby raping little girls came back out, and Roman Polansky is looking to have his rape-of-a-13-year-old thrown out in court. Instead of any bit of outcry, you instead see rape apologists from people who should know better. We even have self-described socialists all hush hush about this bullshit too.
It seems in Capitalist America, morals are only relivant to how much status you have.
I think #gamergate is a gross over-reaction, but at the same time, its a bigger overreaction from the FBI, and stinks of a cover up.
Yes, it could be interpreted to be a racist statement too. Yet, the proper thing to do when something is ambiguous is to give people the benefit of doubt.
Is it now? Of course we'd all like to think so. But lets be honest, we are supposed to give some people and groups the benefit of the doubt, and other people and groups no benefit of the doubt, depending social bias. This bias is often erroniously generated from many sources, some intentional.
You didn't, you instead assumed the statement was racist and thus demonstrated nicely the propensity for flinging unsubstantiated accusations of racism around that several people have complained about.
You see what you want to see. I am guilty of not giving benefit of the doubt, where you wanted me to. This is one way prejudice works, being in where you give benefit of the doubt to things you favor.
no, I'm pretty damn sure I got it right. "some people say", generally means "all my critics believe this".
I think the idea that the US is the sole evil force in the world, and all these other countries would be doing great if only we stopped messing with them, is romantic BS.
I think thats a strawman. No wait, it is a strawman, because thats not the point I made, its the point you wish I made. Your concept of Freedom is. Well, hey, as long as there is a single other country on earth worse than us, we can do whatever we want and call it freedom, and then say everyone else "hates freedom".
Most people come here illegally because they are fleeing the problems caused either by US intervention abroad, or the effects of neo-liberal "free" trade, that destroyed their previous livelyhood, are more than willing to work for far less than both what Americans are, and less than min wage, and are made desperate enough not to care.
Congresscritters, at the behest of corporate intrests have legitimized a quasi-legal system where they are permitted to live here, but not afforded protection of labor laws, or any law, but exist in a grey legal area, big enough to profit off them by exploitment. Regardless of position, few if any people in congress are working towards a real solution to end the grey status of the millions of illegal workers.
The most perverse aspect of the system as it encourages seperatism, and uses the newly out of work natives as an enforcement body to keep the new indentured servant class in line.
Its a sick rotten system that needs fixing.
Ending free trade, the invulerbility of US based global corporations to local law, and stoping the exploitation of people in these countries that people emmegrate from is the only thing that is really going to help.
Automation under capitalism will always destroy jobs or make them pay less. If it didn't save the ownership money in labor, and a signifigant amount to reward the risk of trying something new, it would not even be considered. The entire field is done to "cut labor costs", either pay people less somehow, or hire less people. You can play zero sum games all you want, but "less money spent on labor", is "less money spent on labor"
The internet was invented at US universities with public DARPA research dollars for the department of defense, and the people doing the writing where a bunch of hippies concerned about sharing data, willing to work the above, to get it built. Th modern TCP/IP stack was written at the UC of Berkley by Bill Joy for BSD to be exact. Before you keep going on and on about corporations and how they made everything good, go read some history.
good thing he's not in a position to gain this power anytime soon. So he's really not relivant. Its time to stop making excuses that we can't have freedom because north korea exists or some other BS.