Not everything is simple, but some things are actually simpler than you may want to think they are. In this case, if you are lying you will be prosecuted accordingly. It is not a good idea to make false claims to the police and it has nothing to do with the police's obligations to pursue criminals. And if there was a mistake, any lead that brings to a search mandate is passive of being wrong, it is not as if there is perfect information in this world.
Really? Then find me a single country that do not use punishments as crime control, a country that does not have jails and where crimes are well under control? The punishment part is present in ALL countries. The rehab part is missing from most inclusive from most of those that are at the bottom of the list of crime index.
Again trying to deviate from the point. Those countries do not focus on rehab and do not have more or better rehab programs than US. You can cherry pick as much as you like, but Sweden is in 31st position regarding homicides, there are 30 countries that are better than it, and most of those do not give a damn about rehab, and therefore your theory that rehab actually helps to combat crime is simply not supported by facts.
It is far more likely that rehab is completely orthogonal to crime control, and should be treated as such.
Sweden Murder rate is higher than Germany's, Spain's, Austria's, Slovenia's, Japan's, Singapore's, Hong Kong, The Emirates, Saudi Arabia, oh, and China`s. All countries that have at least the same posture than US regarding rehab. So basically, again, you have no argument.
Japan is currently a punitive system just like US. There is about the same worry with rehab than there is in US, as happens with most of the countries with very low crime rates. Oh and although Finland and Denmark are relatively well regarding crimes, Sweden is one of the most violent countries in Western Europe, with one of the highest crime rates and Norway is at the top of rape statistics. And all Nordic countries have higher crime indexes than other Europeans countries which are more punitive and give less focus to rehab, as Germany, Austria and even Romania,Croatia and Estonia.
But my point is not that. My point is that you stated that punishment does not work and that rehab is the way. You can't prove the truth of this assertion, empiric data points the other way, and still you stubbornly states it as a fact.
Sure, crime rates are better there. On the other hand crime rates are even lower in the Emirates, Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore, for example where justice is punitive, much less interested in rehabilitation, and considerably harsher than in US.
In short you have no data to back up your assumption that rehabilitation produces better results.
As long as the retribution reflects the loss of income it is OK. Unfortunately nobody was able to prove to this day if there is a loss of income associated with this kind of piracy and much less how much it accounts for.
It is basically psychology that doing both works better than doing either separately. It is your own brand of ignorance thinking that punishing bad behavior can be avoided if you want to have laws that are respected. Norway does punish bad behavior by the way, Breivik, for example, will stay in jail for the rest of his life. Even though theoretically he was charged with just 20 years or so of prison, his release is subjected by the approval of a committee.
That brings another point. Personally I prefer a system that is clear about the consequences than another that can keep people in jail for as much time as bureaucrats wishes.
It is not 100% effective and it isn't even proven to be better at all than a hard punitive system. All you have are the wild theories of some sociologists based on data and statistical methods that cannot be verified or adequately checked and even if they could do not point to this conclusion.
I beg your pardon but I have never seen a STEM major glorifying his ignorance in any area, especially language, and I have seen a LOT of humanities majors glorifying their mathematical illiteracy and using it as honer badge.
In my experience the most arrogance come from people in humanities. They are arrogant to the extreme about what they know and about what they thing they don't need to know even more.
You are the one cherry picking, my friend. I've successfully shown you that life expectancy was greater in US at least from the 60s to the end of USSR and considering the famines oin the 20s and 30s, even if you were right (and you are not) that in the 50s life expectancy for some miracle became higher in USSR it would be a small anomaly in a trend that implies the exact opposite.
USSR and China famines were direct killings that killed millions of children and young people, you can`t possibly compare them with the shorted lifespans of hard working slaves who were well fed, but if you do you will have to include the shortened lifespans of ALL people in China and USSR and you will see that communist has killed a lot more people than anything else added together, including the Holocaust, and all the slavery in mankind including all the ancient empires.
But as all socialists you are an intellectual dishonest parasite, eager to live a life of luxury at the excuse of other people's misery, who when faced with hard truth, desperately tries to justify his own unjustifiable urges with any absurdity he can grab.
Your interpretation does not define how bad other people's interpretations are, and in this case you are just plainly wrong. Read again, then go Google the specialists' analysis of these articles, then you can come back here and we may talk.
The problem is that DCMA crap can be turned back by judicial decisions when abusive.
I am certainly not a fan of DCMA take over notices, but here in Brasil we have a lot of "activist" judges who rule in opposition to the law. Until now their decisions were usually but not always turned on Superior courts. Now this law gives them a degree of legitimacy in their arbitrary decisions that will make it much harder to turn them.
Not quite. It does not say that it is in the collective interest that all content must be available (and it couldn't say such a thing as it would encompass child porn, copyrighted content and many other things that are illegal here). It says that a judge has the discretion to issue a taking down order for this content on of something called "collective interest" (whatever it means).
And keep in mind that the data on USSR and China is based on official data from closed authoritarian countries that had every motive to manipulate data as much as they could get away with.
has just given itself the right to apply censure in whatever it pleases, by using this law as a Trojan Horse and inserting in it a vague statement regarding what is unacceptable and not protected by freedom of speech.
Oh and life expectancy in China and USSR always was considerably lower than life expectancy in US especially in the past. That means, by your own warped attempt of logic, that China and the USSR are responsible for billions of premature deaths, that is a much better figure to compare with your 100 K a year of slaves, than the 70 million of direct assassinations.;)
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Sorry, but the most sociopathic are busy being the government.
Not everything is simple, but some things are actually simpler than you may want to think they are. In this case, if you are lying you will be prosecuted accordingly. It is not a good idea to make false claims to the police and it has nothing to do with the police's obligations to pursue criminals. And if there was a mistake, any lead that brings to a search mandate is passive of being wrong, it is not as if there is perfect information in this world.
Really? Then find me a single country that do not use punishments as crime control, a country that does not have jails and where crimes are well under control? The punishment part is present in ALL countries. The rehab part is missing from most inclusive from most of those that are at the bottom of the list of crime index.
Again trying to deviate from the point. Those countries do not focus on rehab and do not have more or better rehab programs than US. You can cherry pick as much as you like, but Sweden is in 31st position regarding homicides, there are 30 countries that are better than it, and most of those do not give a damn about rehab, and therefore your theory that rehab actually helps to combat crime is simply not supported by facts.
It is far more likely that rehab is completely orthogonal to crime control, and should be treated as such.
Sweden Murder rate is higher than Germany's, Spain's, Austria's, Slovenia's, Japan's, Singapore's, Hong Kong, The Emirates, Saudi Arabia, oh, and China`s. All countries that have at least the same posture than US regarding rehab. So basically, again, you have no argument.
Sorry, my friend, you are the one dodging the point. Sweden violent crime rates, especially murder rates are equally high.
US system has a lot of problems, but rehab is hardly a solution and the lack of rehab is certainly not the reason of US problems.
Japan is currently a punitive system just like US. There is about the same worry with rehab than there is in US, as happens with most of the countries with very low crime rates. Oh and although Finland and Denmark are relatively well regarding crimes, Sweden is one of the most violent countries in Western Europe, with one of the highest crime rates and Norway is at the top of rape statistics. And all Nordic countries have higher crime indexes than other Europeans countries which are more punitive and give less focus to rehab, as Germany, Austria and even Romania,Croatia and Estonia.
But my point is not that. My point is that you stated that punishment does not work and that rehab is the way. You can't prove the truth of this assertion, empiric data points the other way, and still you stubbornly states it as a fact.
Sure, crime rates are better there. On the other hand crime rates are even lower in the Emirates, Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore, for example where justice is punitive, much less interested in rehabilitation, and considerably harsher than in US.
In short you have no data to back up your assumption that rehabilitation produces better results.
As long as the retribution reflects the loss of income it is OK. Unfortunately nobody was able to prove to this day if there is a loss of income associated with this kind of piracy and much less how much it accounts for.
It is basically psychology that doing both works better than doing either separately. It is your own brand of ignorance thinking that punishing bad behavior can be avoided if you want to have laws that are respected. Norway does punish bad behavior by the way, Breivik, for example, will stay in jail for the rest of his life. Even though theoretically he was charged with just 20 years or so of prison, his release is subjected by the approval of a committee.
That brings another point. Personally I prefer a system that is clear about the consequences than another that can keep people in jail for as much time as bureaucrats wishes.
It is not 100% effective and it isn't even proven to be better at all than a hard punitive system. All you have are the wild theories of some sociologists based on data and statistical methods that cannot be verified or adequately checked and even if they could do not point to this conclusion.
Most are not. They also tend to be highly curious and have a lot of different interests.
Sure there are the obnoxious one, but they are much fewer in number than those from humanities and way less obnoxious.
I beg your pardon but I have never seen a STEM major glorifying his ignorance in any area, especially language, and I have seen a LOT of humanities majors glorifying their mathematical illiteracy and using it as honer badge.
In my experience the most arrogance come from people in humanities. They are arrogant to the extreme about what they know and about what they thing they don't need to know even more.
I wish I had mod points. You, sir, won the thread.
You are the one cherry picking, my friend. I've successfully shown you that life expectancy was greater in US at least from the 60s to the end of USSR and considering the famines oin the 20s and 30s, even if you were right (and you are not) that in the 50s life expectancy for some miracle became higher in USSR it would be a small anomaly in a trend that implies the exact opposite.
USSR and China famines were direct killings that killed millions of children and young people, you can`t possibly compare them with the shorted lifespans of hard working slaves who were well fed, but if you do you will have to include the shortened lifespans of ALL people in China and USSR and you will see that communist has killed a lot more people than anything else added together, including the Holocaust, and all the slavery in mankind including all the ancient empires.
But as all socialists you are an intellectual dishonest parasite, eager to live a life of luxury at the excuse of other people's misery, who when faced with hard truth, desperately tries to justify his own unjustifiable urges with any absurdity he can grab.
Your interpretation does not define how bad other people's interpretations are, and in this case you are just plainly wrong. Read again, then go Google the specialists' analysis of these articles, then you can come back here and we may talk.
You are right. Living in caves and letting mother nature provide for our needs is the best way! Everything else is superfluous and should be put away.
You go ahead I will be right there! Trust me!
The problem is that DCMA crap can be turned back by judicial decisions when abusive.
I am certainly not a fan of DCMA take over notices, but here in Brasil we have a lot of "activist" judges who rule in opposition to the law. Until now their decisions were usually but not always turned on Superior courts. Now this law gives them a degree of legitimacy in their arbitrary decisions that will make it much harder to turn them.
Not quite. It does not say that it is in the collective interest that all content must be available (and it couldn't say such a thing as it would encompass child porn, copyrighted content and many other things that are illegal here). It says that a judge has the discretion to issue a taking down order for this content on of something called "collective interest" (whatever it means).
Just to enlighten you:
https://www.google.com.br/publ...
And keep in mind that the data on USSR and China is based on official data from closed authoritarian countries that had every motive to manipulate data as much as they could get away with.
Now you are just blatantly lying instead of just being intellectually dishonest (as in comparing murder with diminished life expectancy)
Life expectancy was always lower than in US, from the revolution to 1990.
USSR Life expectancy at birth - 1990:
65 years male, 74 years female
US Life expectancy at birth - 1990
71.8 years male, 78.8 years female
Art 19 4
"... e considerado o interesse da coletividade na disponibilização do conteúdo na Internet..."
"... and considering the collective interest in the availability of the Internet content..."
Basically it opens a can of worms. The judge can remove any content he pleases based on the vague concept of the "collective interests".
has just given itself the right to apply censure in whatever it pleases, by using this law as a Trojan Horse and inserting in it a vague statement regarding what is unacceptable and not protected by freedom of speech.
Oh and life expectancy in China and USSR always was considerably lower than life expectancy in US especially in the past. That means, by your own warped attempt of logic, that China and the USSR are responsible for billions of premature deaths, that is a much better figure to compare with your 100 K a year of slaves, than the 70 million of direct assassinations.;)