Yes I did, and I'd already used it to disable them before I asked any of these inane questions. In the post you replied to I was asking if there were a more nuanced way to deal with this problem than totally disabling said protocols.
I'm simply trying to get a better handle on how all these parts tie together since A) I'm obviously not quite sure of the nitty gritty details, and 2) I'd say that considering recent events, there's a decent chance we'll be looking at yet another variation on this problem next week. I also figured that if I'm a little unsure, there's probably a few other Mac users out there who would appreciate reading answers to the same stupid questions.
I guess I was thinking about it in such a way that ports are roughly equivalent to protocols. So do things like afp:// and disk:// not map 1:1 to a given port? And if not, is there no way to selectively filter them, other than either map them to a given app or ignore them completely?
Shouldn't it be possible to block these protocols via IPFW? Not that it would be any more effective than things like RC Default App (or whatever it's called), but it would seem more elegant to me to be able to protect against these issues without requiring third party software.
Kinda sorta speaking of which, I use (and *gasp* paid for) an app called Little Snitch which essentially makes IPFW interactive, intercepting network access to/from each app and getting my approval on a temporary/permanent and/or server/port basis. Prevents things from phoning home, and can give you some good insights as to what's talking to what.
I also use a utility called Deny IP, which lets me bring up a translucent overlay (kinda like the volume control) showing details on all active connections. Doesn't prevent anything unexpected from happening, but lets me see what is happening and prevent it from recurring.
Also, while I've got your attention, any of you Mac using slashbots know of a utility to automagically turn Apache and IPFW logs into an SQL database in (mostly) real time?
A few years ago I started taking Gingko Biloba for the usual reasons. When I changed jobs and had to be at the office by 6:30am, I started taking it (and all my other vitamins and shit) right before bedtime. The Gingko kicks in while I'm asleep, and when I first wake up at 5:30 to hit the snooze button, I'm awake enough that I may snooze, but I don't fall deep asleep and can still hit the button again in nine minutes.
It also ensures that I stay conscious long enough to get to work and make a pot of coffee so I don't murder my coworkers.
I guess I don't really care enough to be truly bothered by it. To be honest, I'm sort of fascinated by it all in that amateur sociologist sort of way that I get when I spend a lot of time people watching. If you check out my posting history you'll see that I've only relatively recently started getting prolific around these parts.
It is a cool feeling when I get a little message telling me that 17 other geeks burned mod points to say they liked what I have to say, and while it is slightly annoying to get a slew of -1, Overrated mods, I just assume they're beer drinking, Windows using, SUV driving, Bush supporters and go about my business. But then again, I got a +1, Underrated for the parent comment, so I know that at least you and one other person agree with me. As my.sig reflects, I think the/. moderation system has some significant flaws, but I'm actually one of the idealistic True Believers who moderates responsibly, metamoderates regularly and flosses daily because I think that it really is a cool system overall.
So to summarize, fuck 'em if they can't take a joke. NEXT!!!
Yeah, I have to admit that as useless as it technically is, the eye candy is a really enjoyable part of OS X, both for me and for the guests who see my system. I've played with some window transparency utilities on WinXP at work, but it just ain't the same. It really looks like if they can pull it off, their implementation of Aqua, uhh, I mean Aero, will be pretty cool to play with.
I was gonna reply by pasting some text from the PPT, but I see you've already got that... it seems to me (very much not a developer, nor an XWindows user) that they're reorganizing things more along the lines of XWindows; a 3D API (DirectX) for low level 3D stuff, and a window manager (Avalon) for, well, window management.
As a Mac user, you could also look at it is Avalon kinda sorta equals Quartz, but I don't think it's as 1:1 as the XWindows analogy.
(The *nix developers and more knowledgeable XWindows users will now commence flaming me into next week for so thoroughly muddying the waters.)
Safari can't open the page "http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/8/f/18f8 cee2-0b64-41f2-893d-a6f2295b40c8/TW04006_WINHEC200 4.ppt" because it can't find the server "download.microsoft.com".
According to that site I'm a Left Liberal, but I don't feel that their setup is nearly detailed enough. Of course it is, as mentioned, a very small quiz. What's that old line about bitching about poll options or doing anything important with the results?
I didn't vote for Bush in the last election. I would rather vote for Lieberman or Hillary than Kerry. Dean was a disaster. Why? Hillary and Joe are for something, and have specific ideas and goals in mind. Dean was only against Bush. Kerry is a pathetic waffler, and is primarily anti-Bush, rather than pro-anything.
I agree.
But other than abstaining (which makes you a minor traitor in my book) what options do we have? One of those two guys is being sworn into office next January. John F. Kerry is *far* from my first choice, but at this point I'll gladly lay down my life to see that he's the one on the podium in eight months.
It's always better to be for something than against something, but pragmatism requires that when your house is on fire you stop preaching good fire prevention techniques and fight the damn fire. If you survive you can go back to preaching your good fire prevention techniques with more zeal than ever before, but if you perish in the fire, well, you're dead.
That's not a hobby, just a fun diversion. In real life I actively work for change and enlightenment. But on/. all you can really do is preach to the choir and piss off the other side. So to paraphrase badly some other/. user who's nick I can't recall, "I'm not normally a sanctimonious dickhead, but when in Rome..."
I've never known quite what to make of him. If slashdot's Friend/Foe system were more granular, I'd probably file him as someone who's posts always interest me, but neither friend nor foe. Kind of a "keep an eye on him" sort of status. But it's not, so I don't.
I hereby claim purple for our side. Aside from my strong preference for that color (at least in its more vivid incarnations) that would force the fucktards to go with green, a bit of irony more delicious than a good steak.
They also call themselves christians, and then go around ordering executions and waging war.
Umm, those are christian activities as well.
Or at least they're good and proper Old Testament activities, and as far as I know christians go by both testaments even though J.C didn't make his entry until Act 2.
Superstitious fucks. Until you can learn to play well with others, get off my fucking planet!
You've got some actual good people on your Foes list, though. Among others, the_mad_poster is just about the coolest fucker I know of on/. these days. That said, I do wish for a bit more granularity in the Zoo system. Friend/Foe just isn't enough. Oh well.
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Yes I did, and I'd already used it to disable them before I asked any of these inane questions. In the post you replied to I was asking if there were a more nuanced way to deal with this problem than totally disabling said protocols.
I'm simply trying to get a better handle on how all these parts tie together since A) I'm obviously not quite sure of the nitty gritty details, and 2) I'd say that considering recent events, there's a decent chance we'll be looking at yet another variation on this problem next week. I also figured that if I'm a little unsure, there's probably a few other Mac users out there who would appreciate reading answers to the same stupid questions.
I guess I was thinking about it in such a way that ports are roughly equivalent to protocols. So do things like afp:// and disk:// not map 1:1 to a given port? And if not, is there no way to selectively filter them, other than either map them to a given app or ignore them completely?
Shouldn't it be possible to block these protocols via IPFW? Not that it would be any more effective than things like RC Default App (or whatever it's called), but it would seem more elegant to me to be able to protect against these issues without requiring third party software.
Kinda sorta speaking of which, I use (and *gasp* paid for) an app called Little Snitch which essentially makes IPFW interactive, intercepting network access to/from each app and getting my approval on a temporary/permanent and/or server/port basis. Prevents things from phoning home, and can give you some good insights as to what's talking to what.
I also use a utility called Deny IP, which lets me bring up a translucent overlay (kinda like the volume control) showing details on all active connections. Doesn't prevent anything unexpected from happening, but lets me see what is happening and prevent it from recurring.
Also, while I've got your attention, any of you Mac using slashbots know of a utility to automagically turn Apache and IPFW logs into an SQL database in (mostly) real time?
A few years ago I started taking Gingko Biloba for the usual reasons. When I changed jobs and had to be at the office by 6:30am, I started taking it (and all my other vitamins and shit) right before bedtime. The Gingko kicks in while I'm asleep, and when I first wake up at 5:30 to hit the snooze button, I'm awake enough that I may snooze, but I don't fall deep asleep and can still hit the button again in nine minutes.
It also ensures that I stay conscious long enough to get to work and make a pot of coffee so I don't murder my coworkers.
And to the guy who modded that -1, Troll, the secret is to bang the rocks together.
I guess I don't really care enough to be truly bothered by it. To be honest, I'm sort of fascinated by it all in that amateur sociologist sort of way that I get when I spend a lot of time people watching. If you check out my posting history you'll see that I've only relatively recently started getting prolific around these parts.
.sig reflects, I think the /. moderation system has some significant flaws, but I'm actually one of the idealistic True Believers who moderates responsibly, metamoderates regularly and flosses daily because I think that it really is a cool system overall.
It is a cool feeling when I get a little message telling me that 17 other geeks burned mod points to say they liked what I have to say, and while it is slightly annoying to get a slew of -1, Overrated mods, I just assume they're beer drinking, Windows using, SUV driving, Bush supporters and go about my business. But then again, I got a +1, Underrated for the parent comment, so I know that at least you and one other person agree with me. As my
So to summarize, fuck 'em if they can't take a joke. NEXT!!!
But with some hard work, maybe we can get the other 60% to wake up and take a look around, too.
I'm getting modded -1, Troll for this comment, while a guy down below is modded +4, Informative for confirming what I saw?
And here I thought it was just a quaint old urban legend about slashdot moderators smoking crack.
And I'm the one getting modded -1, Troll in this discussion? Sheesh.
Not that I don't agree with you and all, but sheesh.
Yeah, I have to admit that as useless as it technically is, the eye candy is a really enjoyable part of OS X, both for me and for the guests who see my system. I've played with some window transparency utilities on WinXP at work, but it just ain't the same. It really looks like if they can pull it off, their implementation of Aqua, uhh, I mean Aero, will be pretty cool to play with.
I was gonna reply by pasting some text from the PPT, but I see you've already got that... it seems to me (very much not a developer, nor an XWindows user) that they're reorganizing things more along the lines of XWindows; a 3D API (DirectX) for low level 3D stuff, and a window manager (Avalon) for, well, window management.
As a Mac user, you could also look at it is Avalon kinda sorta equals Quartz, but I don't think it's as 1:1 as the XWindows analogy.
(The *nix developers and more knowledgeable XWindows users will now commence flaming me into next week for so thoroughly muddying the waters.)
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While I have to admit it sounds cool, I can't really think of a real need for this.
Yep, it was just me (or perhaps ec.rr.com). As you were.
It's interesting that you know what the "right" poll numbers are.
Well, I'd say the "right" numbers would be that 100% of the people think Shrubya is failing miserably as a leader.
But perhaps that's just me.
I guess I should just head for the Patriotism Training Camps already, they're sure to come get me now.
According to that site I'm a Left Liberal, but I don't feel that their setup is nearly detailed enough. Of course it is, as mentioned, a very small quiz. What's that old line about bitching about poll options or doing anything important with the results?
I didn't vote for Bush in the last election. I would rather vote for Lieberman or Hillary than Kerry. Dean was a disaster. Why? Hillary and Joe are for something, and have specific ideas and goals in mind. Dean was only against Bush. Kerry is a pathetic waffler, and is primarily anti-Bush, rather than pro-anything.
I agree.
But other than abstaining (which makes you a minor traitor in my book) what options do we have? One of those two guys is being sworn into office next January. John F. Kerry is *far* from my first choice, but at this point I'll gladly lay down my life to see that he's the one on the podium in eight months.
It's always better to be for something than against something, but pragmatism requires that when your house is on fire you stop preaching good fire prevention techniques and fight the damn fire. If you survive you can go back to preaching your good fire prevention techniques with more zeal than ever before, but if you perish in the fire, well, you're dead.
That's not a hobby, just a fun diversion. In real life I actively work for change and enlightenment. But on /. all you can really do is preach to the choir and piss off the other side. So to paraphrase badly some other /. user who's nick I can't recall, "I'm not normally a sanctimonious dickhead, but when in Rome..."
Each one teach one.
I've never known quite what to make of him. If slashdot's Friend/Foe system were more granular, I'd probably file him as someone who's posts always interest me, but neither friend nor foe. Kind of a "keep an eye on him" sort of status. But it's not, so I don't.
I hereby claim purple for our side. Aside from my strong preference for that color (at least in its more vivid incarnations) that would force the fucktards to go with green, a bit of irony more delicious than a good steak.
They also call themselves christians, and then go around ordering executions and waging war.
Umm, those are christian activities as well.
Or at least they're good and proper Old Testament activities, and as far as I know christians go by both testaments even though J.C didn't make his entry until Act 2.
Superstitious fucks. Until you can learn to play well with others, get off my fucking planet!
Oh well, I just vote my conscience.
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www.johnkerryisadouchebagbutimvotingforhimanywa
Not necessarily the best (or most complete) webiste on the 'net, but by far the coolest domain name I've seen in a long time.
Thank you sir, may I have another?
You've got some actual good people on your Foes list, though. Among others, the_mad_poster is just about the coolest fucker I know of on /. these days. That said, I do wish for a bit more granularity in the Zoo system. Friend/Foe just isn't enough. Oh well.