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13 Energy Drinks In 3 Sessions

circletimessquare writes "As a member of the cult of caffeine, as I suspect many Slashdot readers are, I was pleasantly amused by this story in The New York Times entitled Opening 13 Cans of Whoop (reg req). Our brave reporter sucks down a number of energy drinks of various parentages and gives us the lowdown on their taste, appearance, ingredients, overall effect, and dubious appeal. Example: 'At this point, my energy level was not only elevated, it was speeding toward the red line. I felt myself staring holes through my computer screen, typing at five times my normal rate and thinking far too creatively about life questions like how many AA batteries I needed to buy when I went to the drug store. My mood was chipper. Too chipper.'"

374 comments

  1. Reg Free by bendelo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's a registration free link thanks to Google.

    1. Re:Reg Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and thank you :)

    2. Re:Reg Free by AnwerB · · Score: 5, Funny

      Quick Summary: New York times reporter overdoses on caffine; writes an article.

    3. Re:Reg Free by Dizzle · · Score: 4, Funny

      Thank god you linked to Google. Before now, I had never heard of Google. Seems pretty handy though.

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      -Dizzle
      "I most likely AM so interested in myself."
    4. Re:Reg Free by DrMrLordX · · Score: 5, Funny

      An in depth article on this topic has already been written. It's much better than the NY Times offering.

    5. Re:Reg Free by The+Evil+Couch · · Score: 0

      they probably don't post on slashdot, either.

    6. Re:Reg Free by NanoGator · · Score: 0

      "Here's a registration free link thanks to Google."

      Here's a who gives a flying fuck" link thanks to NYT.

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      "Derp de derp."
    7. Re:Reg Free by Anubis350 · · Score: 1

      question is, did he write it five times as fast as normal.... ah well, now to go and RTFA to find out. A question though, if I drink a ton of coffee first and read an article written 5 times as fast as usual 5 times as fast as usual, does it mean the article is 25 times shorter than normal?

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    8. Re:Reg Free by Deraj+DeZine · · Score: 1

      Something Awful? Informative? Nice work, DrMrLordX.

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      True story.
    9. Re:Reg Free by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's O.K. I've met employees at compusa who've never heard of null modem cables, parallell ports, or the ISA. And the salespeople knew even less than the tech people.
      Not picking on you, or even trying to tar ALL compusa people with the same brush, but they really are the mcdonalds of computers, and it shows.
      I've overheard techies tell a customer to make shure his computer was ON when installing new ram to make shure it worked. A salesman say that Windows XP couldn't catch viruses anymore because of Security Proof 1("that's what sp1 means). And even try to sell a guy a 450 watt atx power suply for an old PII at system, so the computer would go faster.
      Maybe it's just the two compusa's in my area that is that bad, and alot of the b.s. seems to translate to 'buy somthing expesisize for (insert gobledy gook here) and hey would like a service plan for that?'.

      Mycroft

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    10. Re:Reg Free by h4rm0ny · · Score: 2, Funny

      I've overheard techies tell a customer to make shure his computer was ON when installing new ram to make shure it worked.

      I came across a guy trying to sell a Celeron 333MHz based computer to another and overheard him saying, "It's okay, you can overclock it to run at 1GHz."

      I was feeling confrontational that day so I stuck my nose in and set the poor customer straight.

      Do I get good karma for that?

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    11. Re:Reg Free by gclef · · Score: 1
      Best summary (from reporters wife):
      My wife eyed me curiously. "Have you been drinking those weird drinks?" she asked. A goofy, out-of-context smile on my face provided the answer.

      "You know, I think I like you better after you drink those things," she said. "They make you a better person." I will analyze this statement closely for the next several months.
    12. Re:Reg Free by RagingDaigo · · Score: 1

      must be your area. I haven't heard anything close to that magnatude of dumbfuckery. Only the plain-ol' sales fuckyous of pushing highest-priced items down the throats and out the doors. Even this is only one in several cases though. Again, must be your particular area. Unless of course you felt like going to the extremes in order to prove your point (in which case you prove a weak one)

      I don't expect my local Comp USA to be there for me outside of a 9pm spare-part emergency anyways. I think anyone who is good at what they do with computers is above retail sales anyways. ~RD

    13. Re:Reg Free by ACPosterChild · · Score: 1

      I've seen one CUSA rep give bad advice on numerous occasions. The one I remember most clearly is the customer asking if the 2.4GHz wireless setup he was looking at would interfere with his 2.4GHz phone. The rep said, "No, of course not!" and said something about them talking differently.

      I've heard him talk out of his ass about monitors and USB drives too, but I forget the details. But, I'll also admit that a couple of the guys there *do* know what they're talking about.

  2. splat by grub · · Score: 0, Offtopic


    I'll register tubboy.com for pictures of any daring /.ers that follow in this fellow's footsteps.

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  3. Ouch by naktekh · · Score: 1

    One of those makes me hyper beyond belief.. I can't imagine the amount of caffeine withdrawal this guy must have gone through to put this article together.

    1. Re:Ouch by crazyphilman · · Score: 0

      Ah, the guy's a lightweight. When I was in university, I used to prepare for exams thusly:

      1. Stay up all night, drinking Mountain Dew laced with Vivarin hourly to remain alert.

      2. An hour before the exam, get breakfast. Drink much coffee.

      3. 30 Minutes before the exam, consume a couple of candy bars, some Mountain Dews, several Vivarin, and two or three double expressos from the coffee machine in the basement of the engineering building.

      4. Bring a Mountain Dew or a Jolt into the exam to maintain your effervescence. ;)

      One time, when I went in, my hands were vibrating, and I snatched the exam from the prof so rapidly his eyes bugged out. I think he thought I was tripping; I don't know what I looked like, but I imagine it was somewhat Manson-ish.

      Makes the whole finals experience SO much more fun!

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  4. big deal! by tasinet · · Score: 1

    And the big discovery is that..
    Energy drinks give you Energy?
    Woah.
    [Someone didn't have anything to write on this sunny saturday night]

    1. Re:big deal! by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 2, Funny

      [Someone didn't have anything to write on this sunny saturday night] A sunny night? Where do you live? North Pole or something?

    2. Re:big deal! by tasinet · · Score: 1

      Where I live, a "sunny saturday night" is called a "joke".

    3. Re:big deal! by another_henry · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Hey, don't say it like that. For food manufacturers to actually produce something that does what it claims really IS a discovery!

      --
      "Studies have shown that people who eat peanuts live longer than those who do not eat."
    4. Re:big deal! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chocolate gives you much more energy.

      "Energy" drinks are just stimulants.

  5. substitutes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think at some point its much healthier to switch to cocaine.

    1. Re:substitutes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here we have damn near the funniest post in the thread, sitting alone with a 2 and no replies? give this guy some credit!

      -anonymity is not cowardace.

    2. Re:substitutes by ResidntGeek · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, now it's got a "funny" to go with its 2.

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      ResidntGeek
    3. Re:substitutes by stanmann · · Score: 1

      And its also likelier cheaper. And for those of us on a budget that is more important.

      because cutting back on caffiene is never going to happen.

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      Food not Bombs is a nice platitude but it breaks down when you notice that the Bombees are usually well fed
  6. caffeine by blankinthefill · · Score: 1, Insightful

    While the article does look funny, I personaly don't drink any caffeine. ever. I've found that I function better, think faster, and am actually less tired with out caffine than with it. Plus, caffine is bad for you. and it's also the most abused drug on earth.

    1. Re:caffeine by SUB7IME · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey, man - Caffeine may be bad for you, but it's sure as hell necessary for my survival. Which, in itself, may be bad for you...

    2. Re:caffeine by adamjaskie · · Score: 4, Funny

      Bah. I can quit any time I want.

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    3. Re:caffeine by rifftide · · Score: 2, Funny

      Slashdot is a device that turns coders into posters of caffeine jokes.

    4. Re:caffeine by br0ck · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I spent a month of awful headaches giving up a 5-7 Dr. Peppers a day habit about 2 years ago due to acid reflux and stomach aches and found to my surpise that I'm actually more alert and energetic without the caffeine. Caffeine put me in a perpetual up and down mode, swinging between being too lethargic to work to having an extremely short attention span for the hour after drinking a soda. The only downside is that I still crave soda whenever someone pops the top on a can of soda.

      I do cheat if I have a really bad headache or if I'm going on a long drive by drinking Adrenaline by Sobe and Amp by 7up. That always does the trick but with being unaccusomed to caffeine these energy drinks are like taking speed or something.

    5. Re:caffeine by The+Analog+Kid · · Score: 5, Informative

      Caffeine is actually benefical, it can help reduce asthma attacks, it helps prevent stone formation, it can help reduce the risk of colon cancer and it's an anti-oxident. There are a lot of others which I won't post here, but a quick googling will turn them up, but sure, too much caffeine like anything is bad for you.

    6. Re:caffeine by tb3 · · Score: 1

      Here is the book for you: Memoir from Antproof Case

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    7. Re:caffeine by iminplaya · · Score: 5, Funny

      Quitting is easy. I've done it thousands of times.

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      What?
    8. Re:caffeine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Chances are it's actually the sugar-insuline cycle that is behind the wild swings - soda is usually crammed with sugar.

    9. Re:caffeine by the_mad_poster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Caffeine is a device that turns coders into caffiene joke posters on Slashdot.

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    10. Re:caffeine by asit+ler · · Score: 1

      Amp's made by Mountain Dew, and thus Pepsi. Strangely enough, so is Rockstar.

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    11. Re:caffeine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who said caffeine was bad for you? All the studies I've read says it's actually quite beneficial for you.

    12. Re:caffeine by duffel · · Score: 5, Informative

      Indeed. Most people don't realise it is actually physically addictive.

      Adenosine is a chemical messenger that tells cells to slow down. Caffeine, being structurally similar, can block adenosine receptors in the brain, and thus prevent this slowdown.

      However, your brain cells compensate to prolonged exposure by creating more and more adenosine receptors... meaning that you'll be really tired unless you block them with caffeine. Repeat ad addictum.

      Check here and here for more info.

      On a more personal note, I always find that drinking something with tons of sugars in it keeps me active far longer than caffeine alone. Caffeine just makes me burn through my energy reserves faster, resulting in me being even more tired after a while.

    13. Re:caffeine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah I remember the study sponsored by the Coca Cola company - "Caffeine and Sugar are your friends!"

    14. Re:caffeine by nelsonal · · Score: 2, Informative

      So are Tropicana and Aqua Fina. Dasani and MinuteMaid are owned by Coke. I might have the water brands swapped. If it's non-alchaholic, national, and liquid. You should probably assume that one of the two owns it. Jones Cola and Snapple (was owned by Quaker Oats, but they sold it to someone else a bit ago. CadburrySchwepps is another exception (they own DrPepper/7Up.

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    15. Re:caffeine by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "Plus, caffine is bad for you. and it's also the most abused drug on earth."

      Well yeah, anything can be bad for you if you abuse it.

      --
      "Derp de derp."
    16. Re:caffeine by Brian+Stretch · · Score: 4, Funny

      Caffeine is actually benefical, it can help reduce asthma attacks, it helps prevent stone formation...

      Then maybe it's a good thing that Keith Richards didn't have these energy drinks available to him.

    17. Re:caffeine by wheany · · Score: 1

      Why is everything caffeinated worshipped on Slashdot?

    18. Re:caffeine by garwain · · Score: 1

      I quite every night before going to bed... (well, every night that I do go to bed)

    19. Re:caffeine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While your reply does look retarded, you personally must have drank caffiene. once.

    20. Re:caffeine by ErikZ · · Score: 1

      "Caffeine just makes me burn through my energy reserves faster..."

      Really? Good. I've got about 30 pounds of energy reserves I need to burn through.

      --
      Democrats or Republicans. They are both taking us to the same place and they are not afraid of us anymore.
    21. Re:caffeine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Caffeine is actually benefical"

      II coullddn'''t agggreee mmorreee! More!! MORE!!!!!

    22. Re:caffeine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Then maybe it's a good thing that Keith Richards didn't have these energy drinks available to him."

      That depends on whether or not you're a fan of geriatrics pretending they're still 25.

      Mick Jagger once said "I'd rather be dead than playing Jumping Jack Flash when I'm 50". Curiously, Keith Richards has achieved both...

    23. Re:caffeine by duffel · · Score: 1
      Really? Good. I've got about 30 pounds of energy reserves I need to burn through
      hehe

      Actually, there was an article on the BBC News website a while ago that mentioned how small amounts of caffeine make the body start using fat rather than carbohydrates as an energy source. Apparently a single cup of coffee before you execise is enough.

      You can read the original article here
    24. Re:caffeine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because most of the people who post here are a bunch of unhealthy nerdish wankers.

    25. Re:caffeine by wheany · · Score: 1

      True.

    26. Re:caffeine by Mr.+Piddle · · Score: 1

      Caffeine put me in a perpetual up and down mode, swinging between being too lethargic to work to having an extremely short attention span for the hour after drinking a soda.

      Actually, the 1000+ calories of high-glycemic-index carbohydrate in those 5 to 7 Dr. Peppers is responsible for your swings, lethargy, and short attention spans.

      Just drinking just one non-diet soda can leave me feeling like shit for quite a while, while drinking a pot of regular coffee just makes me feel jittery and pee a lot. Both lead to a short attention span, but at least the coffee has some health benefits (soda has _none_).

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    27. Re:caffeine by SnoBall · · Score: 1

      Oh, ya think so? Maybe I should down a few more cans of diet Dr. Pepper a day. That is just proof alone that caffeine is good for you. :D

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    28. Re:caffeine by br0ck · · Score: 1

      I never even really thought of that, but you could certainly be right.. especially considering that I lost 15 pounds over the next year with no other changes in diet or activity levels.

  7. Makes me think of the old joke ... by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 4, Funny



    I put instant coffee in the microwave and went back in time.

    Thanks Steve Wright..

    1. Re:Makes me think of the old joke ... by Compuser · · Score: 1

      I don't get it.

    2. Re:Makes me think of the old joke ... by Doctor+Faustus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Take instant, and make it go faster.

    3. Re:Makes me think of the old joke ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm afraid I still don't get it.

    4. Re:Makes me think of the old joke ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your mother is sucking my cock

    5. Re:Makes me think of the old joke ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've seen this joke stated wrong(ly?) far too many times.

      The actual Steven Wright joke is:

      I put instant coffee in a microwave oven and almost went back in time.

      The key word is 'almost'. That's what makes it funny.

    6. Re:Makes me think of the old joke ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still dont get it....

    7. Re:Makes me think of the old joke ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um...

      It's still a really shit joke either way

  8. Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by Poeir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While it's real great to be awake and theoretically able to do something productive until the wee hours of the night, there is no substitute for honest to goodness sleep. It's a lot cheaper than a $2 eight-ounce can, too.

    Sleep when you can. You won't regret it.

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    1. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by metlin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      True.

      And again, if you drink coffee in limited quantities (like say, not more than a couple of cups a day), you will notice that when you need to stay up, having an extra cup or two really has an effect.

      When you are a heavy coffee drinker who cuts back on coffee, the first couple of times you have more than your usual dose of caffeine, it takes you on a real alertness mode.

      And the worst part is that the more the coffee you have, the less regular your sleeping habits become. You stop having good sleep, and therefore your waking hours become kinda blurry. At which point, you resort to more caffeine. A vicious circle.

      A cup (at most two) a day is just about fine, IMHO.

    2. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you would have worked more instead of sleeping, then it is not cheap at all.

    3. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by medelliadegray · · Score: 5, Funny

      /jesting on

      So you say that its cheaper to get more sleep. well sir, i shall prove to you, beyond a doubt, that it is, in fact, cheaper to buy my Mighty Mighty Speedo Drink(TM) every day for a low low price of 2.59 per 5.9 oz bottle!

      Now, my friend, assuming your salery is the very respectable wage of $5.15, and you are able to stay up 2.5 hours longer per day by using my Mighty Mighty Speedo Drink(TM) every day in the morning to wake yourself up, and in the evening to keep yourself up longer then, you are in fact making money by using my Mighty Mighty Speedo Drink(TM).

      We all know that time IS money, and by using my Mighty Mighty Speedo Drink(TM) you are in fact generating money! By staying up 2.5Hours more per day, you recieving $12.88 more per day in personal or professional time, after subtracting the low low cost of my Mighty Mighty Speedo Drink(TM) you are in effect generating $7.70 of your time's worth per day! Multiply this by 365 days in a year, and by 10 years, and your gross profit in time will be in excess of $28,000. Would you pass up the oppritunity to make an additional 28 grand? Nooo sane person Wooould! so buy your Mighty Mighty Speedo Drink(TM) today at your local supplier, and prove to the world you are worth more than they are!

      *Warning, it is necessary to get adequate sleep, improper or prolonged use of product may cause premature aging, bags under the eyes, and cause children to run away when they see your face. additional side effects may be experienced with prolonged use, results may vary from person to person. no children, puppies, or fish were harmed in the testing of this product.* /jesting off

      Nothing replaces getting quality sleep for the proper hours that your body requires.

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    4. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by actiondan · · Score: 4, Interesting


      Actually, I find I am more effective at certain kinds of tasks (especially programming) if I attack them in long sessions. The longer I keep going, the more into the right mind set I get and the more productive I am. This is especially true for involved tasks that need a lot of separate considerations to be maintained.

      For periods of up to about a week (and not _too_ often, I find it effective to stay awake through the night (so I end up working (with some breaks) from about 12 midday through to about 4 in the afternoon the next day), then relax and have a big long sleep.

      Of course, everyones working habits are different...

      Dan.

    5. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by spare.dave · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yours seems a common work habit among programmers. It's just sort of taken for granted that that's how programming works. But it's one I've never been able to follow.

      I always found that when working on a complex problem, sleep gives me a perspective that I just didn't have the night before. Coding for an hour in the morning, I can probably accomplish work that would have taken me three hours during the blurry zombie-like state that accompanies an all-nighter.

      But then I also like sunlight...

    6. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by marshall_j · · Score: 1

      I agree but I find you almost get too much into 'the zone'.

      Then the next day when you look at your work you wonder what the hell you were thinking and how the hell it works :P

    7. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by actiondan · · Score: 1


      true enough.

      however, if I time my marathon stints right, I get to enjoy whole days in the sun rather than trying to catch what little sunlight there is in the evenings ;)

      Dan.

    8. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by SEE · · Score: 3, Informative

      there is no substitute for honest to goodness sleep.

      Sure there is. It's called Provigil. It's not a stimulant and it doesn't give you "energy". It just relieves the need for sleep.

    9. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by LMariachi · · Score: 5, Funny
      ...that it is, in fact, cheaper to buy my Mighty Mighty Speedo Drink(TM) every day for a low low...

      Marketing tip: You're not going to sell a lot of anything that sounds like it came from your Speedos.

    10. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "A cup (at most two) a day is just about fine, IMHO. "

      It was recently theorized (possibly proven... not sure, clarification welcome) that a cup or two of coffee helps keep your kidneys from developing stones. Something along the lines of it kickstarts your body. It was felt that overdoing it was bad, but a cup or two was just fine.

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      "Derp de derp."
    11. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Actually, I find I am more effective at certain kinds of tasks (especially programming) if I attack them in long sessions. The longer I keep going, the more into the right mind set I get and the more productive I am. This is especially true for involved tasks that need a lot of separate considerations to be maintained."

      This is true in the programming world, but the opposite is basically true in the creative world. If I spent 15 hours making a 3D model, I'll have gotten maybe 10 hours worth of productivity out of it.

      I don't mean this to negate your point, just sharing one of my own observations. Having done programming before, I agree with what you've said. I've accidently programmed until midnight before. Heh.

      --
      "Derp de derp."
    12. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why I like Rock Star. It's $2 for a 16oz can! Twice the value, twice the caffeine.

    13. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by thynk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And the worst part is that the more the coffee you have, the less regular your sleeping habits become. You stop having good sleep, and therefore your waking hours become kinda blurry. At which point, you resort to more caffeine.

      You say that like it's a Bad Thing(tm). I've always had the view that sleep is for the weak anyway.

      I remember reading an article where 'they' were doing research for a drug that 'replaced' sleep - you could go 4 or 5 days with out the negative side effects. My first and only thought was 'Gimme - I wanna beta test'

      --

      Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.
    14. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by thatnerdguy · · Score: 0

      Patients should be advised that PROVIGIL is not a replacement for sleep.

      From the official prescribing information at http://www.provigil.com Nothing beats a good nights sleep to rejuvenate the body.

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    15. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by phrenq · · Score: 2, Funny

      My first and only thought was 'Gimme - I wanna beta test'

      Yeah... "beta test" new drugs. You need to get some sleep, it's affecting your judgement.

    16. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by austad · · Score: 1

      Marketing tip: You're not going to sell a lot of anything that sounds like it came from your Speedos.


      Ebay has proved you so wrong on numerous occasions.

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    17. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by actiondan · · Score: 1

      Funnily enough, my working life is split between both technical and creative work. As well as programming, I also do live video performances. I definitely agree that for tasks that are creative rather than analytical (such as making new video content for our shows), shorter working sessions are the way forward.

      Dan.

    18. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by mandalayx · · Score: 1
      Marketing tip: You're not going to sell a lot of anything that sounds like it came from your Speedos.


      I remember in high school watching people drink Red Bull and celebrate the "fact" (Myth) that it included bull testicle extract.
    19. Re:Energy Drinks Vs. Sleep by stanmann · · Score: 1

      Yes, but Ebay has changed the policies. You can no longer mention who, when, if, or how long your speedos have been worn. Something about health and safety codes and mail fraud.

      --
      Food not Bombs is a nice platitude but it breaks down when you notice that the Bombees are usually well fed
  9. Whatever by molafson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I felt myself staring holes through my computer screen, typing at five times my normal rate and thinking far too creatively about life questions like how many AA batteries I needed to buy when I went to the drug store.

    Whatever! You'd think the guy was smoking crystal meth or something. Anyway, if you want to feel healthy and alert, try:
    (a) Eating nutritiously and sparingly,
    (b) Exercising every day, and
    (c) Sleeping regularly (same time every day) for 8 hours.

    1. Re:Whatever by MikeXpop · · Score: 3, Funny

      But taking drugs is so much easier. Hey look, ritilan!

      And on a different subject, I don't think smoking Crystal Meth is possible. It's usually snorted or taken orally.

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    2. Re:Whatever by molafson · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Smoking crystal meth has the quickest effect, within 7 to 10 seconds, as the vapors enter the lungs, and are absorbed rapidly through the blood vessels lining the lungs, and then get pumped throughout the body and brain."

    3. Re:Whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nice to see that the worthless drug addicts have representation on Slashdot as well.

    4. Re:Whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Also, try a "pineapple fast" to clear yourself of intestinal parasites: eat nothing but _fresh_ pineapple for 3-5 days. Fresh pineapple contains enzymes that dissolve most parasitic worms. Eating copius quantities of pineapple and nothing else for several days is a cheap and easy way to de-worm.

      Many people don't realise that their general fatigue and health problems can be the result of such parasites, but they are pretty easy to get rid of. Counterintuitively, overweight people often suffer from these parasites - they are overweight because the parasites strip some nutrients, so they overeat to compensate, but the parasites leave plenty of empty calories, which pile on...

    5. Re:Whatever by cgenman · · Score: 4, Funny

      Whatever! You'd think the guy was smoking crystal meth or something.

      Wasn't that the active ingredient in Crystal Pepsi?

    6. Re:Whatever by mog007 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm not a chemist or biologist, but I do know that just about every drug has a smoked form. If crystal meth can be vaporized by the energy from a lighter, it could most certainly be inhaled through the respiratory system and absorbed into the blood stream. No telling what kind of damage it would do to a person's lungs, and the high wouldn't come as fast as snorting it, but it certainly is possible.

      As for energy, if you're that desperate for caffine just get some soda. A two liter bottle of Dr. Pepper is certainly cheaper than these energy drinks, and I've yet to try an energy drink that tastes as good. With the exception of Jolt, but Jolt is just soda with more caffine, not really an energy drink. It doesn't claim those bogus ingrediants like Taurine and Guarana.

    7. Re:Whatever by Tlosk · · Score: 1

      Even nicer to see the people who try to post authoritatively on topics they know nothing about being represented.

    8. Re:Whatever by linzeal · · Score: 1
      Hah, hah, hah. Holy shit (snort), hah, hah, hah. Um, yeah crytal meth could never be smoked it would be unpossible!

      I never did the stuff myself but it is easily smokable and for many the preferred way before going into needles.

    9. Re:Whatever by awing0 · · Score: 1

      Guarana isn't a bogus ingredient. I have guarana extract in pills for when I've pulled an all nighter and need to work the next day. I take enough of it and my body temperature rises, my pulse rate goes up and my blood pressure rises. I even get chest pains from it. It's definitely a stimulant. I only started taking it since the effects of caffeine are totally null for me (tolerance). I'll probably need methamphetamine soon, heh.

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    10. Re:Whatever by mcasaday · · Score: 1
      Anyway, if you want to feel healthy and alert, try:
      (a) Eating nutritiously and sparingly,
      (b) Exercising every day, and
      (c) Sleeping regularly (same time every day) for 8 hours.
      (d) Drink lots of coffee.
    11. Re:Whatever by jkeyes · · Score: 3, Funny

      Even nicer to see the people who try to post authoritatively on topics they know nothing about being represented.

      I thought that WAS slashdot?

    12. Re:Whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wasn't that the active ingredient in Crystal Pepsi?

      The active ingredient in Crystal Pepsi was imitation dog turd (because organic dog turd would have been too rich and tasty).

    13. Re:Whatever by Eil · · Score: 3, Informative


      (a) Eating nutritiously and sparingly,

      I want to add to this: Eat lots and lots of uncooked vegetables. You seriously can't have too many. Most of us are familiar with eating habits that tend to go with the geek lifestyle: TV dinners, ramen, spaghetti-o's, fast food, and soda (pop) by the truckload.

      However, when I made a conscious effort to start eating raw vegetables with *every* meal (and not just a carrot or so a day), I noticed that I started having fewer headaches, had more energy, and just generally felt all-around healthier. Now, if I don't eat my veggies, I find that those symptoms come right back. Carrots, celery, lettuce, and green peppers are almost always staples in my fridge.

      Another thing while I'm on the soapbox: Drink water in lieu of pop and fruit juice. Almost any sweet beverage you can buy at the supermarket will dehydrate you more than it will hydrate you thanks to all the added sugar they put in those things. If you have frequent headaches and your pee doesn't come almost clear 9 times out of 10, then you're chronically dehydrated. Gatorade is okay, but only after a good workout. Otherwise, water is going to hydrate you best.

    14. Re:Whatever by Knights+who+say+'INT · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Guaraná is mostly slow-liberating caffeine. And isn't that the best way?

      I live in Brazil, and this stuff (guaraná, and cofee) is cheaper. But really, it's not a good study helper - use it for fun, but not to speed up your brain or anything. Also, remember to listen to faster-than-light drum-n-bass music to enrich the experience.

    15. Re:Whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who are you calling "worthless", fuckface? The money I make selling meth keeps my gear current, and the meth I smoke allows me to stay up and sell more meth. Plus, you really shouldn't mess with meth heads... we're a little unpredictable. Think hyperactive serial killer with ADD and a 10 second loop of 21st Century Schizoid Man playing in my head backwards over and over and over and over... I sure wish that dog would stop barking...

    16. Re:Whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As somebody who has smoked a fair bit of methamphetamine, I can tell you that it smokes quite nicely inside a good glass piece or an aluminum foil "V."

    17. Re:Whatever by nelsonal · · Score: 1

      Is uncooked really that important? I really like steammed veggies. I usually eat carrots, onions (are those really a vegetable), salad greens (spring mix usually), radishes, and celery raw. Your corn and beans and other mixed veges get steamed, nuked, or stir fried. I'll second eating more veggies. I started eating somthing green with every meal (breakfast is yogurt) and lost a healthy amount of weight. I don't own a scale but I was beginning to not fit in my 38" pants be tight and now I fit in 32" pants. Oh and eat more fish. The good ones halabit, salmon, tuna (ahi or yellowfin), and swordfish are quite similar to steak. Mahi Mahi (dolphin fish or something else in Mexico), cod, sea bass, and Talupa (Chilean sea bass?) are more like chicken or turkey. Saute them in some olive oil lime white wine and spices and you will end up with a pretty delicious dish.

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    18. Re:Whatever by Trigulus · · Score: 1

      I'm not a chemist or biologist, but I do know that just about every drug has a smoked form.

      Why did I never think of this before! I'm off to get some viagra and a crack pipe...

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    19. Re:Whatever by Otter · · Score: 1
      Whatever! You'd think the guy was smoking crystal meth or something.

      My suspicion is that there was an enormous placebo effect there. He probably would have gotten a similar effect from orange juice if it had been packaged in a slim metal can and given a name with multiple X's in it.

    20. Re:Whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, a 64kbps internet radio station. Good job.

    21. Re:Whatever by The+Bod · · Score: 2, Insightful
      All around, pretty good advice, but you might be wrong about what dehydrates you. According to Dr. Dean Edel just about any beverage will hydrate you as long as it isn't alcoholic. I heard this on one of his radio segments a long time back. He was citing some study that was recently published at the time. I don't remember any of the details, except that caffienated beverages were specifically identified as not deyhdrating.


      Personally I've recently taken a liking to the sugar free crystal light I can get at Sam's Club or Walmart. I am enjoying the "Pink Lemonade" flavor as I type this. I am talking about the stuff sweetened with sucralose (Splenda) and not the headache inducing Nutrasweet. So far I have only seen this stuff in 4-packs of 16 oz. bottles. My goal is to displace my beloved high-carb Mt. Dew in my diet with something that will let me lose weight.

    22. Re:Whatever by Dashing+Leech · · Score: 1

      But for the love of god, don't each escolar. A friend and I both had every symptom listed on the linked site and a few ones not listed. And to think it was at a fancy restaurant in a top resort and recommended by the waitress.

    23. Re:Whatever by MethylPhreak · · Score: 1

      Smoking is actually the fastest way for a drug to get into ones system. IV injection is the second fastest (as the drug has to get back to your heart first and then get pumped to your brain).

    24. Re:Whatever by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 1
      He probably would have gotten a similar effect from orange juice if it had been packaged in a slim metal can and given a name with multiple X's in it.

      So would your mom!

      Runs behind fence and hides.

      Couldn't resist.

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    25. Re:Whatever by Anubis350 · · Score: 1

      Sleeping regularly (same time every day) for 8 hours. I wish

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    26. Re:Whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, from speaking with an ex-addict, it is even faster to directly inject it into the veins.

    27. Re:Whatever by sugarboy · · Score: 5, Funny

      However, when I made a conscious effort to start eating raw vegetables with *every* meal (and not just a carrot or so a day), I noticed that I started having fewer headaches, had more energy, and just generally felt all-around healthier. Now, if I don't eat my veggies, I find that those symptoms come right back. Carrots, celery, lettuce, and green peppers are almost always staples in my fridge.

      Now see, what's going on here is that you've become addicted to these so-called "healthy" foods and have built up a dependency, as shown by your withdrawal symptoms. The effects of these food items are perceived increase in clarity and energy, and overall "health", exactly as you have described. But we all know the truth: you're addicted.

    28. Re:Whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice to see the tough guys are still all anonymous.

    29. Re:Whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Almost any sweet beverage you can buy at the supermarket will dehydrate you more than it will hydrate you thanks to all the added sugar they put in those things

      False. 100%, completely, absolutely, totally false. Sugar does not contribute to dehydration except insofar as it may contribute to diarrhea.

      Sugar doesn't interferes with the takeup of water; is even specifically added to oral rehydration treatments because it improves bodily takeup. And the metabolization of sugar releases water, rather than taking it up.

    30. Re:Whatever by shadowcabbit · · Score: 1

      I know the comment about dnb was intended to be a joke-- or at least it sounds like it was-- but for me, sometimes listening happy hardcore or goa can really help me get into a productive mode. If there's a really big project I have to tackle (like, say what I have to do this afternoon ^_^) I'll usually fire up one of the Electronica stations on iTunes and go with that. I can usually go for about six or eight hours listening to it, aided by the occasional sip of caffeine.

      Someday once I have more money I think I might like to take a trip down to Brazil, for the club scene. Of course, by that time I might be so accustomed tot he music that I'd wonder why I didn't bring my laptop. ^_^

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    31. Re:Whatever by RabidMonkey · · Score: 1

      Also, remember to listen to faster-than-light drum-n-bass music to enrich the experience.

      I can attest to this. Drunk at 4am, on the helpdesk at 8am. Only way I make it is listening to some stupid fast/hard D+B between calls. That, and my trusty Nalgene bottle full of ice water and a tim hortons bagel ..

      my TL thinks I'm nuts as I sit here bouncing away to the music. people just don't understand the junglist nature.

      great site ... wish I could stream music through the stupid http only firewall/proxy here @work ..

      sigh.

      buzzzzzzzzz....

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    32. Re:Whatever by Eil · · Score: 1


      Is uncooked really that important? I really like steammed veggies.

      Steamed is probably okay. I'm think I recall reading a few times that cooked vegetables lose a lot of their vitamins. Steamed veggies don't get as cooked as boiled ones. For me, fresh cool veggies are more appetizing than cooked, but that's just a personal taste.

      Oh and eat more fish. The good ones halabit, salmon, tuna (ahi or yellowfin), and swordfish are quite similar to steak

      Heh, I would no problem with that, but finding a place to buy decent seafood without living near the ocean is very close to impossible. And my wife essentially grew up on a farm, which means her idea of fish for dinner is deep-fried pieces of cod. I've tried to get her to enjoy grilled salmon and other types of fish prepared in different ways, but no luck so far. :(

    33. Re:Whatever by Inthewire · · Score: 1

      Eat a gun, leech.

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    34. Re:Whatever by nelsonal · · Score: 1

      I live in Montana (after growing up in Washington. Both Albertsons and Safeway fly in the boat frozen fish that is usually at least decent (it's nowhere near as good as what you get on the coast, but it has improved immensly from when I was a child. You do have to look around a bit but pricing is usually near that of beefsteaks.
      One fish that most landlubbers will generally enjoy is Mahi Mahi. It's pretty rich for fish and has a really neutral flavor (like chicken of course) it's a pretty easy transition fish. Once you get someone to learn that fish doesn't have to mean fishsticks they will usually begin to try a more diverse fish diet. Salmon is wonderful, but quite strong. Try baking it with strong flavored sauces rather than grilling it, at first. My favorite is 1/2 cup of white wine, brown sugar, lemon juice, and soy sauce. Bake the the fish uncovered in the sauce and spoon some sauce over the flilet a few times before it's done. You could season it with your choice of spices (possible addtions are ginger, corriander, dill, or cumin) . If you wish reduce some of the sauce (perhaps with cream). I enjoy it with aspergus or green beans, mashed potatoes, and a nice salad.

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    35. Re:Whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Wrong. Crystal Meth can be freebased off foil or smoked out of a light bulb.

      If you want the ultimate caffine style buzz try using it (meth) with a syringe.
      That's pretty much as far as you can go with it.

      umm. not that I've ever done that.

    36. Re:Whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Crystal Meth Definetly may be smoked... It is called ICE on the street. Not too shabby (Its also called Shaboo!)... after a few eccy's on a Sat night. That reminds me, God I hate monday mornings!

    37. Re:Whatever by tryptsoft · · Score: 1

      False. 100%, completely, absolutely, totally false. Sugar does not contribute to dehydration except insofar as it may contribute to diarrhea. This message brought to you by the Coca-Cola Beverage Distribution Company. Making your life better through unnaturally high glycemic products.

    38. Re:Whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1 part Pepsi with 1 part ice might re-hydrate you.

      I didn't find the study, but I'm extremely dubious that the standard syrup concentrations are low enough to allow anything but meager re-hydration.

      Especially due to the fact I've had more than one experience of drinking soday while thirsty and not getting any less thirsty.

  10. wow by Vlion · · Score: 1

    wow.
    He musta been some kinda messed up the morning after he finished that.

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    1. Re:wow by ManFromAnotherPlace · · Score: 0

      I think he must have been kind of messed up to try that in the first place.

    2. Re:wow by Fishstick · · Score: 1

      seems like a useless stunt. What's the point of slamming a bunch of these in a sitting for a newspaper article? He could have had one each day for 13 days and had the same information.

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      Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.

  11. TOO chipper? Now thats for me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    did i use correct punctuation?

  12. Blaa by Pheonix5000 · · Score: 0

    I'm ready for a different kind of drink. It's called Blaa.
    Which is exactly how you'd feel when you come off of that caffiene trip.

  13. Re:WOOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yah, the NYT gets slashdotted all the time... Don't trolls usually go AC, like myself?

  14. The good old days.... by PeterPumpkin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Red Bull wasn't the first energy drink. Remember, Coca-Cola used to contain cocaine.

    1. Re:The good old days.... by tasinet · · Score: 1

      "Coca-Cola used to contain cocaine."
      Excuse me?

    2. Re:The good old days.... by PeterPumpkin · · Score: 5, Informative
    3. Re:The good old days.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Over the past couple of years I've conducted a similar trial of energy drinks for my own purposes (skiing). Coke is cheap and reliable to this day.

      I had a couple of cans of XTC for breakfast one day and didn't drink enough water during the day...I felt sick that evening and passed out (no joke).

      This year I had Red Bull on the mountain. The first time it totally reinvigorated me, but the next day it was just an expensive, mediocre tasting pop.

      On the whole I still prefer the more traditional energy drinks...coffee and it's friends.

    4. Re:The good old days.... by justforaday · · Score: 3, Funny

      Remember, Coca-Cola used to contain cocaine.

      Ahh, yes. I'm sure many a regular slashdot reader remembers the days when coke used to contain coke...

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    5. Re:The good old days.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My question is, where is the legendary Bawls that ThinkGeek made so popular? It has a certain class being in a blue bottle with a simple label like that, that the canned beverages with all their pizzazz lack.

    6. Re:The good old days.... by boffy_b · · Score: 1

      ...and it has always contained caffine, more than a cup o' coffee.

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    7. Re:The good old days.... by MrMr · · Score: 1

      Nope, it contains less than a decent cup of coffee, (and a lot less than my indecent triple ristrettos) check out : this table

    8. Re:The good old days.... by boffy_b · · Score: 1

      Ahh, maybe I meant tea...my bad.

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  15. I'm amazed by BCW2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    that people spend that kind of money on this stuff. Give me a bag of coffee beans and stand back. If needed I will make it stiff enough to stand on it's own, you don't drink it, you chew it. Who needs a mug.

    Of course I don't understand Starbucks either. $4 for a cup of coffee? I like mine plain black, not that sissified crap.

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    1. Re:I'm amazed by waynelorentz · · Score: 1

      I read an article recently (Canadian paper. Don't remember which one. I'm not Canadian.) that stated the average large cup of Starbucks contains 400mg of cafeine -- the recommended daily limit for humans. Hardly a weak drink, even if you cover it with whipped cream.

      Starbucks deserves credit for bringing non-coffee drinkers into the fold. I never drank coffee before Starbucks. I still can't stand the taste of straight coffee. But dump enough steamed milk and whipped cream and sugar and flavorings in there, and I kind of like it.

      Not everyone is an adrenaline junkie. Some of us like to sit back and enjoy life.

    2. Re:I'm amazed by Doctor+Faustus · · Score: 1

      Starbucks also sells chocolate covered espresso beans (I think that's just dark roast beans). They taste great, and pack a pretty good wallop. Unfortunately, they also give you gas in a couple of hours.

    3. Re:I'm amazed by volvoguy · · Score: 1

      Well, that's a little exaggerated. While I don't like Starbucks regular brewed coffee, their espresso is pretty good - and my regular drink, a "quad three pump vanilla espresso" is only $2.76. If you could live without the sweetener it would be less. If you go to Starbucks as often as I do, you'll probably also get a freebie one out of every four as I do. :)

    4. Re:I'm amazed by ChannelX · · Score: 1

      Starbucks doesn't charge $4 for a cup of regular coffee. They don't charge $4 for the tall size of most of their 'sissfied crap' either.

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    5. Re:I'm amazed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "quad three pump vanilla espresso"

      The simple fact that there is a drink by that name is why I choose not to buy anything from a Starbucks.

  16. If you need energy drinks... by jb.hl.com · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you need energy drinks to stay alert, you either aren't getting enough sleep (which is dumb) or you're utterly insane.

    Normal people in normal sleep routines should be able to get by without caffeine. Hell, I've stayed up all night on nothing more than water before.

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    1. Re:If you need energy drinks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      May I introduce you to medical residency (i.e. the system where one becomes a doctor).

  17. Bah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    V rules all energy drinks!

  18. related info: why jolt was limited. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    jolt cola was limited to 72mg dose of caffine per 12 oz soda do to food laws. (at least in the USA)

    which ironicly is less then coffee can be (normally 65-175 mg per 8 oz serving) and less then espresso (100mg per 1.5-2oz)

    http://www.freshcoffee.com/html/caffaq-1.html

    these energy drinks are not "soda" to get around the limit.

    LD50 for caffine is 150mg/kg
    (take your weight in kg * 150mg of caffine = a dose that has a 50% chance of killing you)

    200 pounds = 90.7 kilograms => 13.6 grams
    100 pounds = 45.3 kilograms => 6.8 grams

    1. Re:related info: why jolt was limited. by jacobhoupt · · Score: 1

      Anyone remember a thing called Battery Cola? It was an offshoot of Jolt about 5 years back, came in a black and gold can and had + and - on the tops and bottoms. Looked like a big Duracell. It was touted as having the maximum legal amount of caffeine or some BS. Friend of mine who was constantly lethargic due to MUDding bought a six-pack of that stuff our senior year of high school for a party we were having at his house. My other friends and I all purchased some also. Anyway, lethargic friend drinks all six of his and proceeds to take an innumerable number of pisses, after which his only comment was, "damn, I feel normal all of the sudden." Shortly after this he started getting proper sleep and lost the soporific edifice we had all come to associate with him.

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    2. Re:related info: why jolt was limited. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LD50 for caffine is 150mg/kg
      (take your weight in kg * 150mg of caffine = a dose that has a 50% chance of killing you)


      Is that really a tested LD50 on humans? Or was that an LD50 on a lab animals like rats?

      I would call it a worthless figure, but I suspect caffiene has been sufficiently abused by enough humans that we have a pretty good idea of how much will be harmful. I've OD'd on caffiene pills before, definitely not a pleasant experience.

    3. Re:related info: why jolt was limited. by Galvatron · · Score: 2, Informative

      This chart gives a listing on the various LD numbers. The two notes on adult humans: lowest recorded lethal oral dose was 192 g/kg, and the lowest recoreded lethal IV dose was 57 mg/kg.

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    4. Re:related info: why jolt was limited. by Rich0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Uh - you'll never see an LD50 for humans - just anecdotal figures on the lowest known lethal dose (LDlow I believe that is called).

      To get LD50 you feed x mg of caffeine to 100 rats, and see how many die. Then you adjust up or down until you do it and get 50 of them to die - viola - the value of LD50. For some reason people have ethical problems with doing this with human test subjects...

    5. Re:related info: why jolt was limited. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No offense, but reading this post was quite painful.

    6. Re:related info: why jolt was limited. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then you adjust up or down until you do it and get 50 of them to die - viola - the value of LD50.

      voilà

      viola

    7. Re:related info: why jolt was limited. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How do you know he wasn't talking about an orchestra playing a funeral dirge for all of the dead mice?

    8. Re:related info: why jolt was limited. by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      I guess I've made it obvious to the world that I play the cello...

  19. Preposterous... by Maiko · · Score: 1

    Staring holes through my computer screen!? I've been going over the top with Red Bull for a long time, and there ain't no holes in the screen.

    The large dents on my computer's case on the other hand...

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  20. cutting down on caffein by arabagast · · Score: 5, Insightful

    um, I know this is kinda blasphemy here on slashdot, but my tip is actually to reduce your dose of caffeine. I used to drink *lots* of coffee and other caffeinated beverages earlier, but decided to try a little break and watch the difference. My conclusion is as follows (beware: these are my personal experiences, your might be completely different)

    1. If you are going to be doing a lot of intensive work, in need of intense concentration (such as coding), you shouldn`t pour down coffee like you never saw it before. The coffee dehydrates your body, leading to less-than-optimal body functionality and can actually make you less suited to do the job intented.
    2. If you, as we all do once in a while, drink buckets of coffee - remember to drink lots of water or other beverage to compensate for the water loss brought on by the caffeine. It`s important to have enough water in your body, we're water creatures after all ^^.

    but, who am I kidding - Coffee is G-O-D :P

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    1. Re:cutting down on caffein by APDent · · Score: 5, Funny

      Coffee is God Pee?

      Oops. Sorry. That's a smiley.

    2. Re:cutting down on caffein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the insightful post. It (along with some other reasonable ones) was good to see. There are way too many dipsh*ts out there (like those of the "A neat desk is a sign of a sick mind" persuasion) that place way too much emphasis on silly images.

    3. Re:cutting down on caffein by fermion · · Score: 2, Informative
      Everyone is different. The general rule is that your body needs proper sleep and nutrition and excersise. If you sit all day, don't sleep, and eat McDonalds, it is not really going to matter whether you drink water or coke. You are screwed.

      I do not buy the idea that caffiene is always bad. For some people, in some situations, it is good. For some people it is not a stimulant. The issue is that some people use it as thier primary from of liquid consumption. Which is bad.

      The other point is that only water is water. Traces of minerals, and even flavor, is good and neccesary. Truly "pure" water (DI) will leech nutrients out of your body. But if you are going to drink water, the fortified stuff is probably a waste of money.

      To the comment of water toxicity. It is an issue. The NYT recently had a case study of such a incident. In that case, a person who was worried about dehydration in sauna drank too much water. It screwed up his electrolytes. Most us will drink several glasses of water over a day, which is good.

      The thing that I learned from my father is cut all drinks about 50% with water. Juices and soft drinks tend to be strong.

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  21. Ritalin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ritalin combined with caffine is by far the most productivity inspiring legal cocktail one can imagine.

    1. Re:Ritalin by f13nd · · Score: 1

      dear god you're right!!!

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    2. Re:Ritalin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You my friend have just become my new deity

    3. Re:Ritalin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't I know it. I never want to experience coming down from ritalin again. I would rather poke needles into my balls.

    4. Re:Ritalin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ritalin sucks compared Adderal. When I need to see through walls, walk on ceilings, have sex with the homeless I turn to the King: Adderal and Chinese Wulong tea (the real shit with leaves!)

    5. Re:Ritalin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I'll second that... anonymously.

      I suggest sampling concerta 26... 26 milligrams of methylphenidate (the active chemical in Novartis name brand Ritalin) suspended in an 8-12 hour time release gel. It's a god send for those afflicted with any kind of dopaminergic deficiency and a massively unfair advantage for everyone else. The come-down is gradual and the high sustained, but do remember your dopamine production will down-regulate and that your reuptake will vastly increase over time. So take weekends and light days off from the drug and smoke a bowl if the cravings overwhelm you.

      On a more serious note, I've consulted all across the nation and quietly observed that this and similar (pharmaceutical amphetamine - Adderall) regimens are very common private sins of star technical employees. Only rarely do these habits seem to develop into serious problems... but it happens. It's easy for me to spot a mild user (I've been there) and given time, I usually find out I'm right. If you work around enough brilliant folks and pay close attention, you'll probably notice too...

    6. Re:Ritalin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That can go either way. Often that mix is really good but sometimes the feeling really sucks. Has anyone else experienced this?

    7. Re:Ritalin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find that ritalin combined with mountain dew seems to work well, it must because i stay up until 3 am and get up at 6am and i can still function, sorta.

  22. ANSI (American Neurological Speed Institute) by Feezle · · Score: 5, Funny

    Reminds me a lot of this (funnier!) column from Computer Language magazine.

    1. Re:ANSI (American Neurological Speed Institute) by Epistax · · Score: 1

      That's funnier than this?

      My wife eyed me curiously. "Have you been drinking those weird drinks?" she asked. A goofy, out-of-context smile on my face provided the answer.
      "You know, I think I like you better after you drink those things," she said. "They make you a better person." I will analyze this statement closely for the next several months.


      I find this article almost up to Dave Barry quality (and I like Dave's stuff).

  23. his eyes make holes in the screen? by t_allardyce · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is he in soviet russia or something? in the rest of the world, computer screen stares holes in you!

    Caffiiineeee yeah yeah yeah! uhuh! im good to go! hey i can quit! i can quit anytime!

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    1. Re:his eyes make holes in the screen? by LaBlueCow · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, since I put my threshold on -1 and formatted to flat, I've noticed a lot more of these soviet-russia comments. It was amusing at best to begin with, but come on folks, enough is enough...

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    2. Re:his eyes make holes in the screen? by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

      In soviet russia jokes are as much a part of slashdot as fantasies of natalie portman naked and petrified in hot grits (whatever the fuck that means)

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    3. Re:his eyes make holes in the screen? by LaBlueCow · · Score: 1

      Oh, I think maybe you got me a little wrong there - I love god jokes as much as the next slashdotter... but 8 soviet-russia "jokes" in the past 5 articles? Eep!

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  24. Whatever-Unemployed IT. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "(a) Eating nutritiously and sparingly"

    I'm poor. I have the "sparingly" down pat.

    "(b) Exercising every day"

    Being chased away from dumpsters gives me that.

    "(c) Sleeping regularly (same time every day) for 8 hours."

    Park benches are no Serta.

    1. Re:Whatever-Unemployed IT. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i'm so poor I have to save my spit

    2. Re:Whatever-Unemployed IT. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'm poor. I have the "sparingly" down pat."

      "Being chased away from dumpsters gives me that."

      "Park benches are no Serta."


      And still with the time to post on Slashdot. Sir/Madam, I am impressed!

    3. Re:Whatever-Unemployed IT. by thatnerdguy · · Score: 0

      Why is nutritious food almost always more expensive than "junk" food?

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    4. Re:Whatever-Unemployed IT. by thatnerdguy · · Score: 0

      Thank you. I was posting half humourously and wasn't really expecting a response, and certainly not a response like that. You really do learn something new every day.

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  25. the cup's shaking I don't want my coffee shaking! by deathcloset · · Score: 2, Interesting

    the interesting thing to me is, that while caffeine is probably the worlds most widely used drug, it's effects (on spiders, albeit) actually seem to be more detramental than that of even marjuanna.
    Yes, I know this is a spider and not a human; but it's still some food for thought....
    Fry: Fancy cigar why don't you smoke it already? Puff puff go go go go go!

  26. Super Size Me fad by timeOday · · Score: 2, Insightful
    How many me-too articles we'll be seeing thanks to Super Size Me (the movie about the guy who ate only at McDonalds for a month with bad results).

    I don't see how this evaluation of energy drinks means anything, because he had more than one per sitting. Who's to say which one did what, or how they cross-reacted?

    1. Re:Super Size Me fad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I liked the article about the guy that ate only McDonalds for a couple weeks and actually lost weight. Super Size Me was just retarded. The idiot was eating 5000 calories a day. He forced himself to eat 3 meals a day there. He could have eaten half as much and still been satisfied, with no ill effect.

    2. Re:Super Size Me fad by gz718 · · Score: 1

      Sunday Styles article people! Relax, it's just a light-hearted review meant to entertain, not inform. Read the article, the guy gets all hopped up and decides to organize his ties. Plus it's written by William Grimes who has absolutely nothing to prove and has no need to make a name for himself by riding on the coattails of some lame documentary. This guy cares so little about fame that no one even knows what he looks like so he can honestly review restaurants anonymously.

  27. Taurine vs. Caffeine by Arren · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is a 'Science' story???

    The NYT article itself is a lark, and a poorly written one at that. As one who consumes espresso regularly and *energy drinks* occasionally, I can assert, experientially (corroborated by several friends & coworkers with whom I've discussed this in the past), that the defining active ingredient in Red Bull and its myriad spawn is Taurine, not Caffeine.

    Conduct the experiment yourself: get a double espresso one night, followed the next night by an 8oz *energy drink* (adjust qtys. for your tolerance). Note the differing effects of the caffeinated espresso vs. the taurine+caffeine *energy drink*.

    1. Re:Taurine vs. Caffeine by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 0

      Note the differing effects of the caffeinated espresso vs. the taurine+caffeine *energy drink*.

      Caffeinated espresso? Do you carry around a little vial of powdered caffeine, or do you ask your server to add a little something extra to your drink?

    2. Re:Taurine vs. Caffeine by gz718 · · Score: 1

      No this is not a science story. It is written by William Grimes, perhaps the most famous and most influential restaurant critic in America. Plus it's in the Sunday Styles sections which means it's just a light-hearted article not to be taken too seriously.

    3. Re:Taurine vs. Caffeine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, he/she was questioning why this was in the Science section of Slashdot...

    4. Re:Taurine vs. Caffeine by barakn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The article wasn't science, but your idea isn't either. The only way for you to be sure is if somebody packages caffeine or caffeine/taurine into indistinguishable capsules and then feeds them to you over successive nights in a double-blind experiment (they can't know what they're giving to you either until afterwards). Otherwise you're just testing the placebo effect. Perhaps your experience with Red Bull is influenced by Red Bull's massive marketing campaign. Coffee advertising tends to advertise its flavor, not its stimulant properties.

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    5. Re:Taurine vs. Caffeine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a previous frequent Red Bull'er (along with various added substances), and a mass consumer of coffee/espresso/etc. There is something to Taurine (or at least Red Bull).

      I can have a couple of double shot espressos before going to bed, no problems, a couple of Red Bulls, and my pulse is through the roof, my head's splitting, and I feel miserable for the next couple days. It was great a few years ago partying around Europe, but now is a complete system trasher

    6. Re:Taurine vs. Caffeine by blastedtokyo · · Score: 1
      Espresso has less caffeine than a cup of coffee. Even though it's brewed under pressure the beans used (arabica) have less caffeine than the cheaper robusta beans used for most cups of coffee.

      The correct comparison would be between Red Bull and taking a caffeine only supplement like NoDoz.

    7. Re:Taurine vs. Caffeine by Arren · · Score: 1

      In response to the rather snarky comments following up my post:

      1. J.Erwin: 'Caffeinated' does not denote added caffeine, be it powdered or otherwise.

      2. gz718: Point taken on author Wm. Grimes' specialization and august status (perhaps he should stick to culinary criticism); however my 'Science' jibe was referring to the article's classification on Slashdot.

      3. barakn: "The article wasn't science, but your idea isn't either." -- ah, good to see that pedantry is alive and well..... gripping another would-be didact self-caricatured by ignorance. The assertion that subjective experiential data (i.e., my suggested informal 'experiment' to consume each drink on separate succesive nights, which in other words was merely a directive to Try It Yourself) is entirely worthless due to the power of suggestion is absurd -- unsurprising given barakn's facile and flaccid attempt at sardonicism (that old warhorse "the placebo effect" is trotted out despite its complete irrelevance to the comparison of two disparate substances, as a placebo is absent of active ingredients.) It is an emblematic symptom of contemporary first-world cognitive malaise to spastically mis-apply vaguely remembered quasi-scientific Key Terms like "double-blind" in an attempt to establish credibility (hey, it worked well enough on those BS essays in school, right?) Although I never claimed my suggestion satisfies the requirements for a scientifically sound Experiment (and never would make such a patently ridiculous claim), I stand by my recommendation to Try It Yourself as science in the essential Socratic sense. The implications of a paradigm in which each individual's experiences are negated by a pseudoscientific invocation of dubious psychological (oh yeah, I already said 'pseudoscientific', so that's redundant) platitudes are actually quite dire. Think about it.

  28. Kind of reminds me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    ...of my Ibiza clubbing days (1998-2000). Not being into illegal substances (then :)) I used to down numerous Red Bull and Vodka mixers and dance like Taz on acid till 6 in the morning, and then go on to daytime clubbing till 2 in the afternoon, repeat this for 2 weeks =0) ... looking back - at the ripe old age of 31 and with 2 kids - it's nothing short of a miracle that I didn't drop dead within a week! Energy drinks are bad mmmmkay? :o) But fun....

  29. Missing Option by MimsyBoro · · Score: 2, Funny

    Real men drink Bawls...

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  30. Why go through the middleman? by cgenman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Why not get actual Caffeine or pure Guarana? Of course, I once saw a girl who ate roughly 1 gram of caffeen in a night stay up for 4 days straight while crying and dribbling at the mouth, so don't overdo it.

    And as for straight coffee beans... Try instant. Just shovel a few spoonfuls into your mouth, and wash it down with water. 10 seconds and you're super caffinated.

    Of course the other secret is to eat 20mg of caffeine immediately before falling asleep. You will awake totally refreshed in about two hours, as if you had a full night's sleep. You do have to make very sure you fall asleep before the caffeine kicks in, or you just won't sleep at all. Long-term effects include improved GPA and complete cardiopulmonary collapse.

    1. Re:Why go through the middleman? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Coffee beans contain other alkaloids that do some fun things. Chocolate coated coffee beans are popular, but expensive, here in europe, so I decided to make my own - I bought a large 1/5kilo bag of coffee beans, and a brick of chocolate, melted+dipped the beans. Myself and my brother scoffed the lot. And very nice they were too, and a tiny fraction of the cost of shop-bought chocolate coated coffee beans.

      Unfortunately, we were both subsequently awake and completely manic for 4 days, followed by two days of severely upset stomach, shakes and headaches and "inside bones" aches and pains.

    2. Re:Why go through the middleman? by Poeir · · Score: 1

      Caffeine Material Safety Data Sheet.

      Extract, Potential Health Effects: Ingestion: Toxic. The adult mean lethal dose is approximately 10 gm. Large doses may produce palpitation, excitement, insomnia, dizziness, headache and vomiting.

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    3. Re:Why go through the middleman? by jacobhoupt · · Score: 1

      That's how I got through my Sophomore year. I called it, "Yellowjacket sleep" and found that I got best results when sleeping on the love seat. You awaken feeling as though you can teleport like some Dragonball Z offshoot.

      It's also a good way to get to work on time after a night of boozing and whoring.

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    4. Re:Why go through the middleman? by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Was this at Tech? If so, I wonder why I've never heard of it...

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    5. Re:Why go through the middleman? by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      Of course the other secret is to eat 20mg of caffeine immediately before falling asleep.

      Yes, the secret to cause damage to your body in the long term. :-)

      Here are some more info from from Wikipedia... I wouldn't play around with pure caffeine more than I'd do with pure drugs of other kinds... :-O

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      Too much caffeine can lead to caffeine intoxication. The symptoms of this disorder are restlessness, nervousness, excitement, insomnia, flushed face, diuresis, and gastrointestial complaints. They can occur in some people after as little as 250 mg per day. More than 1 g per day may result in muscle twitching, rambling flow of thought and speech, cardiac arrhythmia, and psychomotor agitation. Caffeine intoxication can lead to symptoms similar to panic disorder and generalized anxiety disorder. The LD50 is estimated to be about 192 mg/kg of body mass, or about 72 cups of coffee for an average adult.

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    6. Re:Why go through the middleman? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Tell me of your homeworld where eating 20mg of caffeine would be anywhere near the toxicity of eating 250mg? And how many grams of the yellow jacket does he need to hit the 1g daily limit? 50?

    7. Re:Why go through the middleman? by cgenman · · Score: 1

      If so, I wonder why I've never heard of it...

      I don't think anyone ever told me about it. I discovered it one day while taking caffeen pills to stay awake, then immediately giving up and succombing to sleep. Jacobhoupt is the first other person I've heard of who used to do that. I don't think it's a big thing (yet), though I've been telling anyone about it who will listen in the hopes that some enterprising med student will do a rat study to determine just how terrible for you it is. I hate losing those 8* hours a day to just lying in bed, when there is so much more that could be done.

      Sleeping in chairs is another secret to getting up and doing work, though I don't think that has to do with being refreshed so much as being uncomfortable.

      *Thanks to E3, I don't think I've slept 8 hours in about two months.

    8. Re:Why go through the middleman? by The-Dalai-LLama · · Score: 1

      And as for straight coffee beans... Try instant. Just shovel a few spoonfuls into your mouth, and wash it down with water. 10 seconds and you're super caffinated.

      Military M.R.E.'s come with a small pack of freeze-dried instant coffee. On long guard shifts (...must stay alert...gotta stay alert...zzzzzzz......), some guys said they put it into their lips like a plug of chewing tobacco; I always just mixed it with a little bit of cold canteen water, in exactly the manner described above.

      It didn't taste anywhere near as good as chocolate-covered espresso beans, though.

      The Dalai LLama
      "I like my women like I like my coffee: ground up in the freezer." - Somebody here on Slashdot; if you know the source, credit him for me cause it's funny as hell.

    9. Re:Why go through the middleman? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I once saw a girl who ate roughly 1 gram of caffeen in a night stay up for 4 days straight while crying and dribbling at the mouth"

      I was touring with my band back in the early 90's, and my then manager (may he rest in peace) ate two tablespoons of powdered guarana before we all crammed into a van to drive 1000kms. It was an interesting trip. One (of many) thing he said that stuck with me was "Whoever comes up with a way to make seamless latex clothes will make a fortune". Too much personal info, right there.

      Crying and dribbling is sometimes the better option.

    10. Re:Why go through the middleman? by BandwidthHog · · Score: 1

      A few years ago I started taking Gingko Biloba for the usual reasons. When I changed jobs and had to be at the office by 6:30am, I started taking it (and all my other vitamins and shit) right before bedtime. The Gingko kicks in while I'm asleep, and when I first wake up at 5:30 to hit the snooze button, I'm awake enough that I may snooze, but I don't fall deep asleep and can still hit the button again in nine minutes.

      It also ensures that I stay conscious long enough to get to work and make a pot of coffee so I don't murder my coworkers.

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  31. Pah! I laugh! by Stephonovich · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Fools! Try drinking SkyRocket spiked 24 ozs. bottles of Code Red, or better yet, Bawls! 100mg per oz... Just don't try it straight. Penguins soaked in it are quite good, though.

    What's the most caffeine you've had, anyway? My above experience with SkyRocket spiking (plus spiked OJ and Coffee in the morning) resulted in about 1g (not mg, mind you) of caffeine intake over a period of about 6 hours. First time I've ever noticed my heartrate go up from caffeine. With my weigh of about 115 lbs, the LD-50 for me is around 7 grams.

    (-:Stephonovich:-)

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  32. Reporter has no Bawls...... by iLL_L0gic · · Score: 3, Informative

    Honestly folks, out of all of us nerdy caffeine freaks, who hasn't tried the suculant taste of Bawls energy drink? I have sampled all of the major drinks on the market, and Bawls ranks in the top three on Taste, Power, and Look (Come on, the bottle is awesome). Do they not sell this stuff in New York? It would have been the one of the top three I'm sure.

    1. Re:Reporter has no Bawls...... by MachDelta · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'll second that one. Bawls is AWESOME stuff. I can slam a 10oz bottle and be wired for like the next 6 hours. Plus it tastes great (kinda like punch but w/o the vodka), and the bottles look damn nifty stacked ontop of my computer desk.
      I've got a whole case of 24 sitting in my room right now... which reminds me, I need to go out and buy some more soon!

      But yeah, for me... Bawls is the ONLY way to fly.

    2. Re:Reporter has no Bawls...... by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Heh, that's the first thing I thought while reading the article too.

      Not only should he have reviewed bawls, he should have reviewed bawls + penguin mints

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  33. "I was pleasantly amused by this story" by gkuz · · Score: 2, Funny
    I was not pleasantly amused, I was downright awestruck by his reference to Pagan Pink Ripple as a "landmark beverage". I wish I could write like that.

    Raise your hand if you have any recollection of this swill (or any recollection the day after comsuming it).

    1. Re:"I was pleasantly amused by this story" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ripple is up there in the pantheon of bad booze you drink as a teenager. It's not the worst though, Lucky Lager and Boones Strawberry Wine both give worse hangovers.

  34. It's Norwegian. by ForestGrump · · Score: 1

    It's called Blaa.
    and what is Blaa in Norwegian?

    -Grump

    Google translate doesn't do Norwegian to English.

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    1. Re:It's Norwegian. by arabagast · · Score: 2, Informative

      this is probably meant to be "blå", which is the norwegian word for "blue". Never seen it in the stores here though..

      From negative to postive in one day - neat :>

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    2. Re:It's Norwegian. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Blaa" means "blue" in norwegian. The word is actually spelled "blå", but the nordic letters æ, ø and å can replaced by "ae", "oe" and "aa" when writing in languages without æ, ø and å.

    3. Re:It's Norwegian. by ForestGrump · · Score: 1

      neg to postitive what? karma?
      well keep up the informative posts then.
      thanks.

      -Grump

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  35. Did he discover time travel too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quote:

    "By WILLIAM GRIMES

    Published: May 23, 2004
    Slowly but surely ..."

    Apparently the author and/or NY Times seem to have made a significant breakthrough in one of the leading areas of physics research. Maybe that's why this is a 'science' article!!

    - Hooeezit

  36. Energy drinks are for pussies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    80 mg. Talk about lightweight. If you can't do over a gram without getting a buzz...

    And for the price you'd be better off buying crack.

  37. Re:13? by kunudo · · Score: 1

    Wow, that is so amazing!

    No, wait...

  38. Why bother? by pantycrickets · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you want to achieve the effects described in this article, why beat around the bush. Just get some cocaine. Compared to what these things cost, you might even be saving money.

    But, for those who can't give up drinking their high.. there are new coca enhanced energy drinks coming out of Peru. Not coming into America any time soon, but still..

  39. Blaa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which, pronounced in Norwegian, would sound more like "blow" -- a common nickname for another popular stimulant. I would give it a day or two before the reporter tries "Blaa"...

    Erik

  40. MORE INTERESTING by Tandoori+Haggis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    would be a "scientific study" of the respective disolving powers of each drink. Since teeth vary, I guess we would initially need to establish,the parameters of the "average tooth" of the consumer in terms of its resistance to:

    A: Carbonic acid
    B: Phosphoric acid
    C: Sodium Benzoate
    D: Sugar activated plaque
    E: Anything else in a drink including colours (colors), flavours, (flavors), preseratives etc.,

    Once we establish the "average tooth", we need to obtain sufficient samples which are sufficiently similar in size, type and quality of dentyne layer.

    Incidentally, we also ought to test fillings and see what happens to them. We could look for loosening due to tooth decay or the disolving of metal amalgum, (or whatever filler they use).

    I'd be particularly interested in the gases liberated from metal fillings and glues/resins by the corrosive action of the acids.

    While we are at it, IF these drinks are made from
    domestic water, what effect does the fluoride have
    on the tooth. Fluoride is added to water supplies so that poor unfortunate people who apparantly don't buy toothpaste don't have to worry about their teeth falling out.

    Obituary: J Bloggs croaked on Friday due to liver failure as a result of Fluoride overdose. The Coroner did note however that the deceased had a lovely set of teeth.

    While we are at it, where are MY RIGHTS? I didn't demand fluoride in the water. If you brush your teeth with toothpaste containing fluoride AND drink copious quantities of water containing Fluoride (BECAUSE SOME MF SOB DECIDED IT WAS IN YOUR BEST INTERESTS WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!) they can get stained black. Whoopee! Might as well issue black crayons. Why are polititians and tooth fairy campaigners so IGNORANT of long term health issues. They wouldn't have shares in fluoride mines perhaps now would they???!!!

    Colours, sweeteners and preservatives are used to make products attractive to look at and cheap to produce. Medical help and therapy costs millions, maybe billions$. WHO PAYS IN THE END?

    Sorry for the soapbox moment but some stuff has to be said.

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    1. Re:MORE INTERESTING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From what I've read fluoride wasn't added to the water supply because they cared about your teeth, it was industrial waste that needed to be disposed of. Same for chlorine, except that chlorine does have a beneficial effect.

      Here is a link for you. Check out the "Water" article.

      The Doctor Within

      http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/index_fr.html?con te nt=articles/index.html

      It's in frames so I don't think that goes directly to the article. A very provocative article with quite a few references at the end in case you are interested in looking a little deeper.

    2. Re:MORE INTERESTING by Tandoori+Haggis · · Score: 1

      Thats very interesting - both the industrial waste angle and The Doctor Within.

      Thanks v much for the link!

      Cheers

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    3. Re:MORE INTERESTING by japhie · · Score: 1
      Obituary: J Bloggs croaked on Friday due to liver failure as a result of Fluoride overdose. The Coroner did note however that the deceased had a lovely set of teeth.
      While we are at it, where are MY RIGHTS? I didn't demand fluoride in the water. If you brush your teeth with toothpaste containing fluoride AND drink copious quantities of water containing Fluoride (BECAUSE SOME MF SOB DECIDED IT WAS IN YOUR BEST INTERESTS WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!) they can get stained black. Whoopee! Might as well issue black crayons. Why are polititians and tooth fairy campaigners so IGNORANT of long term health issues. They wouldn't have shares in fluoride mines perhaps now would they???!!!
      Y'see, it's all communist plot. We should fight against those damn commies in the name of purity of essence, of our precious bodily fluids!
    4. Re:MORE INTERESTING by forgotmypassword · · Score: 1

      Ripper: Mandrake?

      Mandrake: Yes, Jack?

      Ripper: Have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?

      Mandrake: Well, I can't say I have.

      Ripper: Vodka, that's what they drink, isn't it? Never water?

      Mandrake: Well, I-I believe that's what they drink, Jack, yes.

      Ripper: On no account will a Commie ever drink water, and not without good reason.

      Mandrake: Oh, eh, yes. I, uhm, can't quite see what you're getting at, Jack.

      Ripper: Water, that's what I'm getting at, water. Mandrake, water is the source of all life. Seven-tenths of this earth's surface is water. Why, do you realize that seventy percent of you is water?

      Mandrake: Uh, uh, Good Lord!

      Ripper: And as human beings, you and I need fresh, pure water to replenish our precious bodily fluids.

      Mandrake: Yes. (he begins to chuckle nervously)

      Ripper: Are you beginning to understand?

      Mandrake: Yes. (more laughter)

      Ripper: Mandrake. Mandrake, have you never wondered why I drink only distilled water, or rain water, and only pure-grain alcohol?

      Mandrake: Well, it did occur to me, Jack, yes.

      Ripper: Have you ever heard of a thing called fluoridation. Fluoridation of water?

      Mandrake: Uh? Yes, I-I have heard of that, Jack, yes. Yes.

      Ripper: Well, do you know what it is?

      Mandrake: No, no I don't know what it is, no.

      Ripper: Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?

    5. Re:MORE INTERESTING by Idarubicin · · Score: 2, Interesting
      While we are at it, where are MY RIGHTS? I didn't demand fluoride in the water. If you brush your teeth with toothpaste containing fluoride AND drink copious quantities of water containing Fluoride (BECAUSE SOME MF SOB DECIDED IT WAS IN YOUR BEST INTERESTS WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!) they can get stained black. Whoopee! Might as well issue black crayons. Why are polititians and tooth fairy campaigners so IGNORANT of long term health issues. They wouldn't have shares in fluoride mines perhaps now would they???!!!

      Not only that, but excess fluoride exposure has been linked to paranoia, irrational anger, and uncontrolled fits of YELLING.

      Curiously, fluoridation of water is also associated with lower rates of suicide. Ref.

      Fluoridation results in a significant decrease in dental caries (cavities), but also an increase in fluorosis. Ref.

      Mild to moderate fluorosis seems to have a primarily cosmetic effect; severe fluorosis can affect the integrity of the tooth. Consequently, efforts are made to moderate (but not eliminate) the exposure of people to fluoride. In general, it is thought that the significant decrease in caries more than outweighs the increased risk of (predominantly mild) fluorosis.

      Many European nations do not fluoridate their water; instead they mandate fluoridated toothpaste. Recent studies have investigated appropriate dosages, though dose control can be stymied by incorrect individual usage. Ref. It has also been observed that fluoridation of water significantly improves dental health among the poor, who presumably have less access both to dental practitioners and, for that matter, toothpaste. Ref.

      Until we have a better understanding of the mechanisms of both the formation of dental caries (Ref.) and fluorosis (Ref.) we're left with making public health decisions based on available epidemiological data--which overwhelmingly support the continued fluoridation of drinking water to protect oral health.

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    6. Re:MORE INTERESTING by Idarubicin · · Score: 2, Insightful
      They wouldn't have shares in fluoride mines perhaps now would they???!!!

      The toothpaste on my shelf contains 0.24% sodium fluoride; that's about one part in a thousand that's fluoride, by mass. If we assume that I go through 250 g of toothpaste per year--about half a pound--that's 0.25 g of fluoride I consume each year. Over a quarter billion or so Americans, that would be sixty or seventy tons of fluoride.

      The average per capita water use in the United States is (rounded up) about two hundred gallons per day. (Ref.) Assuming that all of that water gets fluoridated at 1 part per million, that's another 200 tons per year fluoride.

      If we assume that the fluoride was originally sourced from calcium fluoride (fluorspar), that's a total of about 900 tons of fluorspar to meet the entire nation's dental fluride requirements.

      Current U.S. use of fluorspar is on the order of six hundred thousand tons per year. (Ref.) Nearly all is imported, and two-thirds (66%) of those imports are from China.

      To conclude, fluoride use for public health purposes makes a negligible contribution to total domestic fluorine demand--less than a fifth of one percent of the total fluorine consumed. Also, domestic leaders haven't got anything to gain by selling more fluorides--the U.S. imports most of its supply from a country it doesn't particularly like, and where it definitely doesn't own any of the local natural resources.

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    7. Re:MORE INTERESTING by whovian · · Score: 1

      I would guess that the difference is due to industrial usage of fluoride. Indeed, fluoride is used in the production of stainless steel, fluorocarbons, and teflon. It is also a part of aluminum refining, uranium refining, and the production of hydrogen fluoride, which can be used to etch glass (silica).

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    8. Re:MORE INTERESTING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From what I've read fluoride wasn't added to the water supply because they cared about your teeth, it was industrial waste that needed to be disposed of. Same for chlorine, except that chlorine does have a beneficial effect.

      Yep.. even more insidious is that they add fluorine to toothpaste to cover up the fact that fluorine does nothing for you.

      And don't even get me started on ACT! I tell ya, the conspiracy knows no bounds!!!

    9. Re:MORE INTERESTING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only on Slashdot would a Fluoride Conspiracy Theorist get modded as "+5 Interesting".
      By the way, are you the same dumb@ss that left the "Fluoride Kills" pamphlet on my driveway back in 2000 when Sunnyvale had its fluoride referendum? I need to assess you for the toxic waste disposal fee I incurred when having to remove your baseless, noxious propaganda from my property.

    10. Re:MORE INTERESTING by nothingtodo · · Score: 1

      Oy my gosh, flouridation of water is an evil communist plot! We cannot allow it to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids!

      And what about ice cream? Children's ice cream?

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  41. ..at least he can buy any softdrink he want to by rundgren · · Score: 2, Insightful

    OT, but like he points out: "sale of Red Bull, the leading energy drink in Europe, has been restricted to pharmacies in some countries there because of its high caffeine content." Here in Norway they actually outlawed it completely (which can be done because we think are to good for the European Union and it's free trade...) Of course we are used ridicolous legislation regarding to anything remotely stimulating, after all I live in a country which has about the same maximum punishment for possession of larger amounts of cannabis as for murder in the first degree (21 years, (while rape typically gets you 3...))

  42. Science? Caffine? by iminplaya · · Score: 1

    I'm not falling for that again.

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    What?
  43. Skaterade by WhatsAProGingrass · · Score: 1

    Has anyone tried the new Skaterade drink yet? This may be a bit off topic, but its supposed to be a new energy drink out there.

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    Mark
  44. Caffeïne.. by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 1

    Most I know quitting caffeïne just turned out being better off; the only burden is going throught the headaches of withdrawal which are only temp (instead of returning each time you "forget your caffeine intake").

    Former daily routine:
    1. wake up, drink 2-3 mugs of strong black coffee to wake up.
    2. Get a high out of it, bounce towards wherever I have to be.
    3. arrive and feel sortof drained; Next intake of caffeine to get a new boost.
    4. By noon; drained, burned up all my energy for the day already. New caffeine intake; the illusion I somehow get another boost.
    5. during the day, trying to get as much caffeine as possible. Caffeine's fun! Freaking some people out with my abnormal / hyper appearance, hands shaking. (ate eraser while concentrating)
    6. Dragging myself home, feeling drained, depressed; conclude it's just the way my life is. Maybe I should consider some changes..
    7. Physically burned out, but hyper in mind. I try to sleep but I can't..
    8. goto 1

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  45. Cocaine? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try that for a real buzz...just dont do to much like an 8ball.Why do so few nerds smoke weed or coke

    1. Re:Cocaine? by insomaniac · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why do so few nerds smoke weed or coke

      Well, here in the netherlands there are a lot of geeks who do smoke weed, I'm one of them, if its nicely grown weed it gives me a focus on what I'm doing. I code very well when I smoked a nice joint. The problem is starting the work, but when finally started its like your in your own coding world and you can visualise the entire structure of the code, even better than when you are sober.

      I've tried cocaine a few times and didn't really like that, MDMA was more fun but one should not do that often either. And these are party drugs, not drugs you take when your alone in front of your computer.

      But then again I think that weed as a drug is less harmfule than alcohol for many reasons which I won't go into unasked. ;)

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    2. Re:Cocaine? by Inda · · Score: 1

      Smoking alone is a bad habit that I wish I didn't have...

      If you have problems sleeping I would suggest smoking more :)

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    3. Re:Cocaine? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Traditionally, we tend to stay away from things which cause an increased level of non-motivation (weed) or a sharp risk of acute and terminal death (coke). Speaking from the perspective of one who has tried both of these things, I can say that neither was an experience I'd like to suggest for the average /.er.

  46. hmm by hitmark · · Score: 1

    im from norway and i dont recall ever seeing a product named blaa (or could it be blå/blue?). wtf is he talking about?

    red bull is btw illegal here if iirc, some people have ended up with blackouts from mixing red bull and alcohol...

    from what i understand guarana i added to help speed the uptake of the other stuff along. personaly i never understood whats so special about these drinks anyways. if anything they make me more sleepy, not less...

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    1. Re:hmm by IRLQBall · · Score: 1
      red bull is btw illegal here if iirc, some people have ended up with blackouts from mixing red bull and alcohol...


      News just in: Norway discovers that alcohol causes memory loss! Blames it on Red Bull!

      I remember the days of 1 pound (IEP - roughly $1.50 IIRC - year 2000) a drink specials. Some of my classmates discovered that 4 vodkas and 1 Red Bull fit perfectly in a pint glass. Ten pounds and two pints later, the memory losses began. :-)
    2. Re:hmm by hitmark · · Score: 1

      heh, i think you got the wrong impression. red bull contains so mutch caffeine that they banned it for that reason from what i hear.

      as for the alcoholic blackouts, i do belive it was so bad that it needed a visit to the hospital or something like that. i dont know the mix rates tho. 1 part red bull, 4 parts vodka i dont think it was. more like 50% red bull, 50% vodka.

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    3. Re:hmm by C0vardeAn0nim0 · · Score: 1

      redbull contains taurine which when mixed with alcohol can have nasty side-effects on some people, including seizures and memory loss.

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    4. Re:hmm by IRLQBall · · Score: 1

      It may sound odd, but 1 part red bull and 4 parts vodka is not 1:4 mixing, it's more like 5:3. :-)

      1 measure of spirits is 35ml and one can of red bull is (IIRC) 250ml.

      140ml vodka + 250ml Red Bull + the ice that comes with two double vodkas = ~568ml (an Imperial pint). It's only now that I've done the figures that I realise how much ice they were giving us. :-/

  47. ...but not enough "to give a fly a buzz" by Fishstick · · Score: 2, Informative

    By Heath's calculation, the amount of ecgonine [an alkaloid in the coca leaf that could be synthesized to create cocaine] was infinitesimal: no more than one part in 50 million. In an entire year's supply of 25-odd million gallons of Coca-Cola syrup, Heath figured, there might be six-hundredths of an ounce of cocaine.

    So, yes, at one time there was cocaine in Coca-Cola. But before you're tempted to run off claiming Coca-Cola turned generations of drinkers into dope addicts, consider the following: back in 1885 it was far from uncommon to use cocaine in patent medicines (which is what Coca-Cola was originally marketed as) and other medical potions. When it first became general knowledge that cocaine could be harmful, the backroom chemists who comprised Coca-Cola at the time (long before it became the huge company we now know) did everything they could with the technology they had available at the time to remove every trace of cocaine from the beverage. What was left behind (until the technology improved enough for it all to be removed) wasn't enough to give a fly a buzz.

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    Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.

    1. Re:...but not enough "to give a fly a buzz" by toiletsalmon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's all well and good, but from what my Grandfather told me once, he "knew quite a few fellers that got to 'seeing things'" if they stayed out working in the sun drinking "co-colers".

      Of course there's always room to blame heat stroke or whatever in his stories, but nonetheless, he avoided them because they made him feel "odd".

    2. Re:...but not enough "to give a fly a buzz" by E_elven · · Score: 3, Informative

      This was common even in the early 1900's -cocaine was used in veritable amounts most children's and adults' cough medicines, sleeping aids (!), some headache medicines and -I believe- in some tuberchulosis medicines. The use of cocaine was banned after some of the harsher withdrawal and side-effects had started manifesting in a considerable part of the population. Coca-cola, also, had a considerable quotient of cocaine in it.

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    3. Re:...but not enough "to give a fly a buzz" by Deadstick · · Score: 2, Informative

      When I was a kid in the 1940s our neighborhood druggist, Mr. Murphy, was still keeping heroin under the counter for his elderly customers...I'm fairly sure I was given some once or twice circa 1947. Grandma's "medical book" spoke quite highly of it.

      r "Dang, that feels better" j

    4. Re:...but not enough "to give a fly a buzz" by G-funk · · Score: 1

      They still give you morphine to kill pain if you're fucked up enough to need it in hospital, and it all comes from the same place (well it did once anyway).

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    5. Re:...but not enough "to give a fly a buzz" by The+Bod · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, if you need a cough suppressant, you should try getting cough syrup with codiene. Codiene is a Level II narcotic, but you can get the cough syrup with codiene from a pharmacist without a prescription. However, many pharmacies won't carry it (fear of robberies) and you have to sign some paper to get it. It is up to the pharmacist's discretion whether or not you can get it without a prescription. According to one of my wife's professors, codiene is the best cough supressant available. I wish I had known all this a couple years ago when I was suffering with bronchitis...

      Disclaimer: My student pharmacist wife is at work right now and is not able to check my facts.

    6. Re:...but not enough "to give a fly a buzz" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Coca-cola, also, had a considerable quotient of cocaine in it.

      you just contradicted the parent post with no source to backup your claim, whereas the parent quoted snopes (granted, not the final word, but somewhat respected even amongst slashdot psoters):

      no more than one part in 50 million. In an entire year's supply of 25-odd million gallons of Coca-Cola syrup, Heath figured, there might be six-hundredths of an ounce of cocaine.

      What is a "considerable quotient", 1 pp/10 million?

      gah, informative my ass.

  48. Cheaper maybe... by Animaether · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Although it is cheaper ($0.00 vs $2.00 = $2.00 cheaper, or #INF%), there is the flip side as well.

    Not to denounce the fact that sleep is a Good Thing(tm), but...

    Let's say that drinking the content of the $2 can allows you to stay up and awake, productive, etc. for 1 more hour.
    At $40/hour pay, you just 'made' $38.

    I know a few people who wouldn't mind making that trade-off if they could.

    1. Re:Cheaper maybe... by Poeir · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, but the longer you stay up, the less productive you are. You're getting nowhere fast if you stay up an extra hour and do as much work as you'd do in half an hour when fully alert. If your job is occupying space, then an extra hour is handy, but if your job involves making correct decisions, that hour of sub-par work can cost you (or at least someone) way more than an hour of time.

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    2. Re:Cheaper maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but the longer you stay up, the less productive you are.

      I'm a taste tester for energy drinks and I seem to get a lot of overtime but people keep asking me why energy drinks taste like ass and I'm not really sure but I'll shut up now bye.

    3. Re:Cheaper maybe... by metlin · · Score: 1

      At what cost?

      Sure, you make the extra $38 an hour in exchange for a lifetime of addiction :)

      Not to mention the fact that you would have to spend a few hours with bad sleep (am I the only one who's had bad sleep because of amounts of residual caffeine in the blood?).

      Is it worth it? Sure seems like it when you are in your 20s or 30s, but am pretty sure that as you get older it's not a worthy tradeoff.

      My a thought, that's all.

    4. Re:Cheaper maybe... by scum-e-bag · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yeah, that's what I was doing for a few years... slam down a red bull toward the end of the night and pull an extra hour or two, get some more $$$. An extra two hours gave me an extra $80 no problems, or so I thought.

      Last Christmas it all caught up with me when I had an epileptic fit and woke up finding myself in the emergency section of the hostpital unable to walk. I was lucky that I only tore my back muscles and didn't break my spine from the violent jerking involved with the siezure. The only reason given to me for this fit, by the various doctors I saw, was that it occured due to my working hours and that I was pushing my body to the limit. They all told me to slow down before I killed myself or someone else. I am only 29.

      Be carefull with your use/abuse of these products. It can cost you more in the long run. I was only having two of these things a day at the most.

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      Does it go on forever?
    5. Re:Cheaper maybe... by RollingThunder · · Score: 1

      Habituation, not addiction.

      When you stop using caffeine, your body rapidly undoes the adjustments it had made to accomodate for it. People who are addicted are addicted for ever. Their bodies never revert from the need, they just manage it.

    6. Re:Cheaper maybe... by nelsonal · · Score: 2, Informative

      This isn't jet were talking about. It is addictive but if you have a cup occasionally it's not gonna kill you. Best way to tell you have built up tolerance (and should stop for a while) don't have coffee one weekend if you get a headache, stop.

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    7. Re:Cheaper maybe... by willis · · Score: 1

      Good god, mate, how many hours were you working? What job? That's crazy -

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      what else could you want?
    8. Re:Cheaper maybe... by scum-e-bag · · Score: 2, Interesting

      For the previous few years I was going non-stop for about 17 hours a day. One hour involved eating and cleaning. The other 6 was just sleep.

      What was I doing. I was driving a taxi and was also working on my laptop (number crunching/financial analysis) whilst waiting around for the next taxi ride. I was using 802.11 and hotspots for my internet connectivity. I guess sitting for most of the day without much movement was also a bit of a killer.

      I had a great little setup for wardriving. ;)

      Money isn't everything... I now have a bit more respect for my body.

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      Does it go on forever?
    9. Re:Cheaper maybe... by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 3, Interesting
      People who are addicted are addicted for ever. Their bodies never revert from the need, they just manage it.

      Incorrect. Classical addiction has four components: tolerance, withdrawl, continued use in the face of negative consequences, and repeated failed attempts to quit. Some people's use of caffiene fits perfectly.

      It has nothing to do with "being addicted forever". In anyone who successfuly overcomes an addiction, the body undoes the changes that resulted in dependance.

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    10. Re:Cheaper maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the previous few years I was going non-stop for about 17 hours a day. One hour involved eating and cleaning. The others were just sleep.

    11. Re:Cheaper maybe... by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 1

      Sweet! I knew it!! I am not addicted to alcohol because I have never tried to quit!!!

  49. I guess caffeine does not affect me ... by Furbot · · Score: 1

    I am seeing from the posts that there are at least a couple of other individuals like me. I could drink a pot of coffee and then go to sleep if I wanted to. Caffeine just does serve to wake and/or keep me up. I still enjoy a couple of soft drinks from a taste perspective, and I still enjoy a nice cup of coffee every once in while for the experience, but I do not need these products to wake myself up and I only drink them rarely. The alarm clock and a hot shower do more to get me up, and I tend to not even need the alarm clock as long as I allow myself at least 6 hours of sleep every night. I wish I was one of those people who could catch a buzz off a cup of joe, I feel like I am missing out on something.

  50. SoBe Adrenaline rules by bigtrouble77 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I experimented with a few energy drinks prior to my trek out to new mexico from new jersey. I found that SoBe Adrenaline worked best for me. I never drink caffine and always get at least 8 hours sleep so I knew this would be system shock. My brother, on the other hand, who has ADD could find nothing that worked.

    Just on Adrenaline I made it out there in under 40 hours only stopping for gas/bathroom. Not a huge accomplishment for most, but a triumph for me. When I got to the pan handle I was downing one almost every 30 minutes.

    I did try Red Bull and some others on the way back but they didn't have close to the same kick. I really think the effectiveness of these drinks depends on the person.

  51. Double Vodka & Red Bull by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Never get drunk on these. Nothing worse then being drunk and not being able to sleep it off due to all the caffine in your system!

    1. Re:Double Vodka & Red Bull by Sv1ad · · Score: 2, Informative

      SECONDED. And another warning: because both alcohol and caffeine have diuretic effects with vodka and red bull you lose twice the amount of water and so the resultant hangover hits you twice as hard. Personal recommendation from experience: double vodka and red bull is a favourite of mine, but keep the water coming too. The hangover I got from the first time I did a night on these was MONUMENTAL.

  52. Dehydration... by Animaether · · Score: 1

    Your statement doesn't entirely ring true.
    Coffee dehydrates - yes. But just drinking water isn't going to re-hydrate you. Indeed, drinking too much water is toxic.
    The problem is that even though you drink the liquids, you don't have enough salt (to put it simply) in your system to *retain* that water.

    So my advice : If you drink a lot of coffee / water, be sure to have some salty snacks as well. E.g. licorice, chips/fries, bacon - whatever.

    1. Re:Dehydration... by DavittJPotter · · Score: 4, Informative

      Indeed, drinking too much water is toxic
      Yes, but.....

      From webmd.com:

      You would need to chug down about three quarts of water or more all at once to come down with a case of true water intoxication. It does happen, but so rarely that I couldn't find statistics on the number of cases. These people become drowsy, lightheaded, and weak. They have trouble coordinating bodily movements and thinking straight, looking and feeling as if they just stumbled out of the local bar.

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    2. Re:Dehydration... by molafson · · Score: 2, Informative

      There is a condition called hyponatraemia that can affect elite endurance athletes. I believe it occurs when someone sweats profusely (losing essential minerals through the sweat like sodium and potassium), and then drinks plain water, which further dilutes the serum level of these minerals.

    3. Re:Dehydration... by aminorex · · Score: 1

      Yeah, coffee, bacon and water. Now that's gotta
      be healthy!

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    4. Re:Dehydration... by tapin · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Thanks for bringing up hyponatremia, molafson. It happens to be the same condition the parent of your post is talking about -- "water intoxication" -- but the webmd reference is obviously clueless if they think that the stats are "so rare" etc.

      I'd disagree with your characterization of hyponatremia as a problem with "elite" endurance athletes; in my experience, it's more of a problem with people who are, for example, first-time marathonners. These people think that they're supposed to down a cup of water every mile, don't eat anything else, and by the 20th mile or so they can't even walk straight because their sodium levels are so screwed up.

      It's not a pretty problem.

    5. Re:Dehydration... by MoggyMania · · Score: 1

      There's also a similar condition called hyperhydrosis that some people are seemingly born with or develop at an extremely young age. Like in hyponatraemia, the near-constant sweating can cause both dehydration and unpleasant mineral imbalances. Luckily there are a number of treatments for hyperhydrosis, ranging from surgery down to special OTC anti-persperants like Certain-Dri.

    6. Re:Dehydration... by whovian · · Score: 1

      I hate it when I run out of bacon-flavored Gatorade.

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    7. Re:Dehydration... by RoLi · · Score: 0
      about three quarts

      What's a quart?

    8. Re:Dehydration... by elhaf · · Score: 1

      Your characterization of the typical victim is correct; there was even someone who died from it recently. However, dehydration is still a much greater problem among first-time marathoners.

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  53. Re:Pah! I laugh! by stephenisu · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Whoa deamn!

    Just keep in mind LD-50 is the point where HALF of the HEALTHY subjects are dead. Many die well before that, many also get ill. I don't know about YOUR particular physique, but most slashdotters I know in real life (myself included) are not exactly healthy.

    Careful man, you could suffer short or long term health effects.

    Anywho, I gotta stop typing, my BAWLS with guarana is nearly 45 F, I gotta finish it now.

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  54. Who is this guy trying to kid? by rune2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    If only the product had been available to Keith Richards, he might be wrinkle-free and rosy cheeked today.

    Who is this guy trying to kid? Keith Richards has done every drug there is and he's still alive. You just can't seem to kill the guy. I'm pretty sure that he'd just laugh at these energy drinks. You know what they say, If there's ever a World War 3 only two things will survive: the cockroaches and Keith Richards!

    1. Re:Who is this guy trying to kid? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thats what Robin Williams said anyway...

  55. Weeeeellllllll....... by ZosX · · Score: 5, Funny

    I j-j-j-ust drank-k-k a-ll thirteeeen-n-n at once-ce-ce-ce aaaand-d let meeeee tell-l-l-l you I wouldn't-t-t-t recomend it!

    *thud*

  56. No, man, you got it all wrong! by gotr00t · · Score: 1
    Time is money, and caffine buys you more time that would have been lost to sleep.

    Thus, in the time that you could have been awake because of a $2 can of energy beverage, you could be losing THOUSANDS of dollars doing nothing!

    1. Re:No, man, you got it all wrong! by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Time is money, and caffine buys you more time that would have been lost to sleep.

      Stimulants lets you borrow time, not buy it. You either make it up later with extra rest, or you die earlier from the negative health consequences of drug abuse. (Yes, caffeine is a drug, the most abused drug in the U.S., and its abuse will damage your health.)

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  57. At the other end of the energy spectrum by spid · · Score: 1

    This article reminds me of a hilarious review of sleeping pills I read on Slate:

    http://slate.msn.com/?id=2062791

    The reviewer even went so far as to pit the pills head-to-head against a strong dose of caffeine:

    "I washed down two Calms Forté caplets with a huge mug of java at 10:30 p.m. Within 45 minutes, I was tired and ready for sleep. Score one for the pills! But as I lay in bed, a terrible thing happened. My body felt exhausted, barely able to move, yet my mind continued to race the way it does on coffee. This was like being paralyzed and was really horrifying. (I also had another trippy dream on Calms Forté: It involved an intriguing new strategy for darts, and let's just say the distinction between "dartboard" and "sternum" became somewhat meaningless.) When I tried the coffee battle again with Unisom, it took longer to fall asleep (about two hours), but I didn't have the paralysis thing. Still, my girlfriend reports I tossed and turned in bed that night like a caged animal."

  58. energy drinks can be BAD by LeeBarnes · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I once heard about this guy from a friend that works for Pepsi. he told me that this guy, a co-worker of his at one time, on a bet, drink six cans of Amp (or one of those similar kind) in just a few minutes (think chug).

    He said within 15 minutes, they were rushing him to the emergency room cause his poor heart was thumping out over 250 beats per minute.

    don't tell me that stuff doesn't have an effect.

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    1. Re:energy drinks can be BAD by thebatlab · · Score: 1

      Well I mean, that was just a stupid idea. Anything taken to the extreme can be bad, not just energy drinks.

      "don't tell me that stuff doesn't have an effect."

      Well of course it does when you take down 6 in a row. For some people, just one of them doesn't have a noticeable effect.

    2. Re:energy drinks can be BAD by PunkPig · · Score: 1

      Monster has a warning on it not to drink more than 3 cans a day.

    3. Re:energy drinks can be BAD by TrajanAugustus · · Score: 2, Funny

      I heard from a friend who knows this guy who had a former roommate that met a person at a party that said her cousin's proctologist once read in a journal about a person who's son stated that his friend drank Amp and nothing happened. Weird...

    4. Re:energy drinks can be BAD by Buck2 · · Score: 1

      Completely disreputable.

      A guy told me that he heard from a friend about a Pepsi employee that chugged six straight cans of their Amp cola or whatever ... and within fifteen minutes he got sent to the hospital for having a heartbeat of somewhere around 250.

      I'm serious. I read it.

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    5. Re:energy drinks can be BAD by mandalayx · · Score: 1
      no shit. everything can be bad. Example:

      I once heard about this guy from a friend that works for Pepsi. he told me that this guy, a co-worker of his at one time, on a bet, drink six cans of beer (or one of those similar kind) in just a few minutes (think chug).

      He said within 15 minutes, they were rushing him to the emergency room .... don't tell me that stuff doesn't have an effect.


      I don't think that either finding is rather surprising.
  59. Pussy Americans by The_reformant · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    What is it with you pussy americans. Over here in goot old Brit-land we drink this stuff with vodka.
    A typical night out at a club might be 9/10 double vodka and redbulls. Each of those has a tin of redbull in it.
    In fact tesco (a big 'ol grocery store) has started selling their own brand called kick which comes in a 1 litre bottle for a mere 99p. It is very popular with students like me and running up to exams (like now) a can drink 2 or 3 of these a day.
    The cool thing about these drinks is they do keep you awake a bit, and even better they dont mince your bowels like drinking 10+ cups of superstrength espresso does.

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  60. Anyone else read the subject.... by dethl · · Score: 1

    as "13 Energy Drinks in 3 Seconds"?

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  61. i love bawls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    bawls has to be not just the best tasting energy drink but also the best any drink there is. it smooth, and refreshing. its also got a hell of kick. i chugged 4 before my last slipknot concert and i had enough energy to spend the whole night in the pit. i love bawls. the only problem is the hyvee that i used to get hooked up at stopped stocking it so now i have to drive 2 hours or order it off the internet. :-(

  62. what about Jones? by the_greywolf · · Score: 1

    my favorite for a long time was Jones WhoopAss. now that Jones has phased that drink out for "Energy", it's my preferred energy drink, right in front of Red Bull. i was honestly surprised there was no mention of it.

    is Jones really that underground?

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  63. Re:Pah! I laugh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The most I've had was when my High School had grad-night and had free espresso. So I got 12 shots in a cup. 1.2 grams!

    WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. :-D

  64. reminds me of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this review of 40s.

  65. Any Better Reviews Out There? by JazzHarper · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It would be good to know exactly how much caffeine is actually in some of these drinks. I'd also like to see some taste panel results or surveys.

    I've found that one or two of these will keep me from falling asleep after a three- or four-hour ride and a hot shower. I don't drink it before the ride, because keeping my heart rate under control is essential to maintaining speed on a long ride. Caffeine will give you tachycardia if you're pushing the edge of the anerobic threshhold.

    Some of these drinks taste really foul. I've found that Red Bull does the job, but it doesn't taste very good. SoBe Adrenalin Rush tastes worse. KMX tastes ok, but doesn't have any kick, as far as I can tell. The best combination of taste and effect that I've found is AMP, but I'd like to hear some other opinions. The article was humorous, but it wasn't informative.
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    1. Re:Any Better Reviews Out There? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I can only comment on SoBe No Fear, which tastes and smells similar to Hawaiian Punch but better. It comes in 16 oz cans which is good - I like my drinks to come in something bigger than a thimble. It's still called "2 servings" on the can, so if you drink the whole thing it's:
      • Vitamin C, B6, & B12 200%
      • Taurine 2000mg
      • Inositol 200mg
      • Panax Ginseng 100mg
      • Guarana 100mg
      • Creatine 50mg
      • Grape Seed Extract 50mg
      • L-Carnitine 50mg
      • L-Arginine 20mg

      And yes, it does the trick, you can definitely tell a marked difference in your physical and mental state after drinking one. I drank one at 9pm and am still coding furiously 3 hours later.
  66. Is it me, or was that an utterly worthless article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe I have been reading too many tech sites, but I was hoping for some actual testing and results, but this guy gave us a day in the life. Hello, which drink is the best for energy, doofus????

  67. 180 - THE BEST!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    180- comes from Anheuser Busch, but DANG! talk about a powerful zzap! For me, it's got a better lift than Red Bull or Lipovitan D , lasts longer, and gives me more stamina than any. Whoop Ass comes in a close second. Nothing works better for taming that multi-acre yard in the country! :D

    itomato

  68. Re:Pah! I laugh! by spare.dave · · Score: 1

    I'm kind of curious how many shashdotters actually have any respect for their own bodies.

  69. ehem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    funny, all the people who think weed doesnt affect them and ignore what people who arent having weed say to them.
    Ironic given yesterdays post on mental disorders. If you want scihzofrenia(spell?) thats a sure way to go. If you dont believe me, become a psychologist and after a while you might notice how soooo many of the people just seemed to have smoked weed then one day scitzo.
    Whats more..
    1:if you have a twin avoid it as you would allready have a elevated probability of the mental condition.
    2:If you live in an area that isnt so sunny (or more to the point if your mum did while she was pregnant with you) then the possible lack of vitamin D also elivates your possibility of getting the disease.
    Very often you will see people in countries at peace on tv doing things that you just cant believe someone is so stupid to do. I often used to think to myself how can people be so crazy and stupid. Then I discovered the correlation with drugs.
    I have a mum who works for a public psychology center. Its funny how often she recognises someone on tv in the news who has just robbed someone in bizare ways or some other violent or rediculous altercation. yup- they're all been on drugs. If society realised what these drugs are really causing, wow i can assure that alot more would be invested and alot more would be put into prevention.
    if such drugs are fine for you, they are not fine for your community as the community has to deal with you once you have lost it in 5 years.
    Whats more if you deside to become a parent, then you inherently will screw your childs mind before they are even born.So then the community will have to mop up their problems too. So it isnt always about you. For example, my sister worked in atlanta in the US for a while as a teacher. ouch.. The area wasnt very wealthy and it was pretty easy for her to predict which parents had taken drugs- mainly by which kids would walk around all day,all week and year muttering they are going to kill someone or the kids that wet their pants just to copy some other kid that did.
    Yep it aint always about u.

    1. Re:ehem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, you could try following your own advice.

  70. Opening a can of WhoopAss(tm) by still+cynical · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Whatever happened to WhoopAss? It was the first "energy" drink I ever tried, and it tasted MUCH better than Red Bull. ThinkGeek doesn't carry it anymore, and it was the only place I ever saw it.

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    1. Re:Opening a can of WhoopAss(tm) by talonracer · · Score: 1

      It's still made:

      http://www.jonessodastore.com

    2. Re:Opening a can of WhoopAss(tm) by mandalayx · · Score: 1

      If you told your customers to "open a can of WhoopAss", how long do you think they would last?

  71. Hm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Comedy. It's not so easy, is it?

  72. Re:Pah! I laugh! by Stephonovich · · Score: 1
    First, yes, I know it's where 50% die, but considering that's around 1/7 of LD-50, I'm not real concerned. Besides, that's an extremely rare event. Usually when our Tech Team gets together, the most I have is around 500mg. Doesn't even start to get me jittery.

    As for respect for one's body... yes, I realize I'm not invincible. That being said, I'd rather live a short and well-enjoyed life (such as eating 24 oz. steaks) than a long and miserable one (such as being a vegetarian).

    (-:Stephonovich:-)

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  73. Nah, I just limit myself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to a two-liter of Mt Dew and a couple of bottle of Vanilla Coke ..... ..... each day. I really don't go for Red ..... ..... Bull or Jolt.

    1. Re:Nah, I just limit myself by localhost00 · · Score: 1
      Note regarding parent, should have previewed first! Damn caffeine!

      ..... ..... is supposed to be ..... [bathroom break] .....

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  74. Pretax/aftertax by mgkimsal2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not everyone's making $40/hour to start with - I presume many more who might be considering the 'redbull' lifestyle are in the $18-$25/hour range.

    Assume $25/hour. After taxes, you're probably making $18/hour. Minus the $2 (you buy most things with after-tax dollars, not pretax dollars) and you're left with $16 'profit'.

    Considering the long-term health risks associated with that type of abuse, and the more likely ROI financially most people would actually realize, it's not as great as many people make it out to be.

    Having said that, I do partake in some caffeine-fueled binges now and then, but I don't try to justify it from a financial standpoint.

    1. Re:Pretax/aftertax by ajna · · Score: 1

      Furthermore, I bet many in the Slashdot target group at least are salaried, so this whole $40/hr extra point is moot for them. Longer hours for the salaryman == good for the company, but bad for the worker.

    2. Re:Pretax/aftertax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My Salary + the Hours I work, makes me a very sad Salaried worker ;(

  75. NYT doesn't know Guarana = Caffeine by Black+Acid · · Score: 4, Informative
    All contain caffeine, guarana or a combination of both. (Guarana, a berry found in the Amazon, has a stimulant effect similar to caffeine's.) Some use ginseng as well, for extra stimulation.

    Maybe that is because guarana is caffeine? Actually, guarana (Paullinia cupana) is a plant, which according to Erowid contains 5% caffeine from which it derives its stimulant effects. There is no alternative to caffeine named guarana. Wikipedia's article on guarana has more information. Yet more misinformation from the Times.
    1. Re:NYT doesn't know Guarana = Caffeine by LMariachi · · Score: 1
      Yet more misinformation from the Times.

      It's in the Fashion & Style section. Something tells me the factcheckers don't hit that too thoroughly in any newspaper.

    2. Re:NYT doesn't know Guarana = Caffeine by Anik315 · · Score: 1

      ADD medications are all like that. Ritalin isn't technically an amphetamine, but it works the same way. Adderall isamphetamine. And Strattera is a new one. I haven't tried it yet, but it's not stimulant so it's kind of like being slightly drunk 24/7. Just tell your doctor you're having trouble concentrating.

  76. Just take a pill by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you're so obsessed with getting the perfect caffeine ratio, just buy some caffeine pills. You'll get nearly the same effect, can take it faster, you won't have to get up to piss as a result, and it's only something around a nickel or less per pill. In comparison to a drink that'd cost twenty times more and deliver less caffeine.

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    1. Re:Just take a pill by shadowcabbit · · Score: 1

      The problem is it's probably a lot safer to spread the caffeine dosage over a time than to just downt he pill immediately. I'm probably in the minority here, but I have to be really desperate to chug a Red Bull or any other drink. Usually I just take sips over time and go from there-- a single can takes me anywhere from twenty minutes to an hour to finish, normally. I used to do this because of the taste of the drink, but now it's pretty much like any other beverage; Red Bull is actually pretty good, once you get used to it.

      In an emergency (3AM call to fix servers which have fallen upon some horrible explosive tragedy), a caffeine pill is preferable. For coding over a stretch, however, I'd say one was better off with a drink or two to have over time.

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  77. Affects different people different ways by Peter+Cooper · · Score: 1

    I (generally) don't consume caffeine very much. But I once drank 1.5l (6 cans) of Red Bull in a single night, and didn't feel any different in the hours that followed. I went to sleep a few hours later and slept as soundly as ever. Coffee doesn't seem to perk me up, and caffeine has no noticeable effect. Is this even vaguely normal? Or can certain people have no sensitivity to caffeine at all? I don't tend to be the energetic type anyway, so perhaps it can't fight over that ;-)

  78. Getting through the day - drink fluids by xixax · · Score: 1

    Once upon a time, a friend of mine took ridiculous amounts of caffeine over a weekend. It is NOT fun, he started having heart palpitations. Don't fuck with you body for the fun of it.

    I love drinking too much coffe, the dehydration issue is especially important in office building that are air-conditioned and dry you out even more. I keep a 1 litre water bottle on my desk and aim to drink it through the day (refilling at the water cooler), I prefer cool, but not chilled water. Having experimented, I find drinking water through the day finds me feeling more buzzed and alert at the end of the day (whether or not I drink coffee).

    Xix.

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  79. Over 75 diff E drinks.... by DV_Philm · · Score: 1, Funny

    I've tried over 75 diff E drinks. I used to keep a can collection, but me gurl made me through them out. I now take a pix of each one b4 I toss the can. I'm almost immune to caffein at this pt.

    1. Re:Over 75 diff E drinks.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      That explains why you're dropping random vowels, letters, and inserting numbers. Maybe you should try another means of staying awake before posting on slashdot. The moderators recommend crack cocaine.

    2. Re:Over 75 diff E drinks.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PCP BYBA!

  80. Splendidly written article! by Gil-galad55 · · Score: 1
    That's one of the most well written and funniest articles I've ever read in the times, including Dowd's columns, which have been slipping of late. Here is the shiniest gem among many:

    Pounding Punch tastes like a nonalcoholic version of the Pagan Pink Ripple, a budget wine with tropical flavors that was a landmark beverage for me. Its distinctive hangover, a sneak preview of a cheap and tawdry death, made me realize while still in college why it is very important to drink in moderation.

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    To follow knowledge like a sinking star, / Beyond the utmost bound of human thought. ("Ulysses", Tennyson)

    1. Re:Splendidly written article! by panurge · · Score: 1

      I'm glad someone else found it as amusing as I did. The first time I've emailed people the URL to an NYT article in a long time. The whole article sends up pretentious wine writers brilliantly.

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  81. Thank $deity for Sugar Free RedBull by rjamestaylor · · Score: 1
    In second half of 2001 I wrote a program as a contractor for a dope who pre-sold it as a completed application (I found out later) and I was always being hurried (understandibly) to finish deadlines much sooner by the ultimate client. Anyway, thinking the problem was with me (and not a unethical middleman telling two stories to the endmen) I buckled down with coffee, then esspresso, then RedBull to push the sleep from my brain and meet the client's expectations. (Nota Bene: That is stupid).

    I downed cases of RedBull a week. Costco was my supplier, Officer. I also gained 70 lbs. Whee.

    So, imagine how happy I was to see Sugar Free RedBull. Sure, it has calories, but not nearly as many. I've lost 50 of those pounds and though I've had project deadlines that push the boundaries of sleep since, I have kept the weight off thanks to SFRB.

    I wouldn't have latched on to RedBull if I could have located Time Release Caffedrine capsules. Great stuff, it was but I can't find it anywhere. Oh... to explain my love for Time Release Caffedrine, allow me to repost the following:

    In 1990 I had a boooorrrrriiiinnnggg programming job customizing a mid-range Unix-based COBOL-written accounting package. Snore.

    On top of this I also was placed in the "air conditioner" room of my employer's "office" (the front 1/4 of his house) -- behind me was a very large window unit that pumped out A/C cold and white noise bold. Snore.

    So while our NCR Tower did have a couple curses games, there was no FrozenBubble or "Stay Awake" Quake to assist a poor coding monkey (eep). Falling asleep just meant more notes written by the boss' nuerotic wife, whose moment of joy in the two years I knew her was receiving a prescription for Prozac (I jest not).

    I needed help. And I found it: Caffedrine with Time Release Action for the Light Lift and Steady Buzz that Lasts and Lasts. Gone were the tummy twirls of NoDoz, multitudinal bathroom breaks due to copious coffee consumption (remember, avoiding Mrs Neurosis' Handy Dandy Notebook is a bonus), and shaky hands that leads to increased ^H-action and accompanying decreased productivity.

    But the things are no where to be found anymore. Instead, all I can find are the single tablet Caffedrines that don't offer the time released goodness of the Contact-looking predecessor.

    • ThinkGeek! Bring back Time Release Caffedrine!
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    -- @rjamestaylor on Ello
  82. Aww, they left out the best one... by ProppaT · · Score: 1

    I don't know about you guys, but nothing beats the Arizona Tea Energy drink. You know, in the 20oz can....99 cents at the store. It's cheap and it tastes great (asst fruits and green tea). Not only that, but it's loaded with all sorts of energy boosters. I don't know that it has as much kick as some of the other products, but it quenches your thirst, give you a boost, it's dirt cheap, and tastes great all at once (something I've yet to see with any other product).

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  83. Huh? by dustpuppy · · Score: 1

    Almost any sweet beverage you can buy at the supermarket will dehydrate you more than it will hydrate you thanks to all the added sugar they put in those things.

    I've heard people say this a lot of times, but it doesn't make sense to me. So are you saying that if I drink nothing but coke, i will eventually die from dehydration? Because i drink several litres of coke a day and pretty much that is the majority of my fluid intake each day and my pee is clear and I don't get headaches.

    I'm not saying you are wrong - but I'd love to know the explanation.

    1. Re:Huh? by The+Evil+Couch · · Score: 2, Informative

      your body requires water to transport sugar molecules through cell walls, on a one for one, basis. so, sugar will take water away from other tasks. it won't remove it from your body, but it will inhibit hydration.

    2. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you drink several litres of coke every day and it contains sugar, STOP IT. You are committing an atrocity to your own body.

    3. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mmm several litres of coke and an adult fetish gallery.. lovely.

  84. Starbucks Doubleshot? by Cyph · · Score: 1

    I looked over the article, I missed any reference to Starbucks Doubleshot. Is this something that could even be classified as an energy drink, even though it's essentially coffee? I've found it to be much more to my taste than any of the regular energy drink offerings (though, AMP is bearable) because it tastes like... coffee. Probably doesn't offer the same "kick" as the other energy drinks out there, but it certainly does a good job at increasing one's alertness level.

  85. Wusses... by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

    Seriously, go with the original energy drink. My favorite coffee shop in town, Comet, sells something called a speedball (same thing as Alterra's redeye...) its a cup of house strong with two shots of espresso in it, that'll wake you up before class. Comet also sells something called a switchblade, which IIRC is a pint of mocha with 4 shots in it, Mmm.

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  86. try Rockstar! by Bob-o-Matic! · · Score: 1
    Rockstar is the heat! Taste is pretty good, but I only drink it for effect, maybe 2 per month. I don't drink much soda at all, so Rockstar hits extra hard. I prefer the diet version, and never consume it after 1:00 pm, otherwise I'll have a hard time getting to sleep shortly after 10:00 pm.

    You can usually find it at the Diamond Shamrock gas stations, if you are in Texas, for about $2.00 each. If you happen to work at the NSA, they sell it in the sundry shop by the credit union for $2.25.

    damn-- their website doesn't seem to be firefox-friendly. I checked it out using the other browser on my system, turns out there is a pop-up, Rockstar is hiring!

  87. Re:Pah! I laugh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a long and miserable one (such as being a vegetarian)

    Or, you know, you could live a long and well-enjoyed life being a vegetarian. It could happen.

  88. Beware the veggie addiction by xilmaril · · Score: 2, Funny

    I want to add to this: Eat lots and lots of caffeine pills. You seriously can't have too many. Most of us are familiar with eating habits that tend to go with the healthy lifestyle: home-cooked meals, multivitamins, fruits, fresh veggies, and water (that weird clear stuff) by the truckload.

    However, when I made a conscious effort to start eating caffeine with *every* meal (and not just a box of pills or so a day), I noticed that I started having fewer headaches, had more energy, and just generally felt all-around healthier. Now, if I don't eat my pills, I find that those symptoms come right back. Ritalin, Caffeine pills, cola and heroine are almost always staples in my fridge.

    Another thing while I'm on the soapbox: Drink lsd in lieu of water and fruit juice. Almost any 'healthy' beverage you can buy at the supermarket will hydrate you more than it will waken you thanks to all the added sugar they don't put in those things. If you have infrequent headaches and your pee doesn't come almost clear 2 times out of 10, then you're chronically under-doped. Jolt is okay, but only after a good workout. Otherwise, LSD is going to hydrate you best.

  89. Buy Caffeine by fumcr · · Score: 1
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  90. Disappointing he didn't test Mad Croc by geminidomino · · Score: 1

    He mentioned it tho. I picked up two cans at 7-11 tonight (2 for $2, so what the hell) After ONE I feel like I want to run around my building a few times. Fortunately, I have work to do in the office, so I don't have to worry about any nasty exercise sneaking in.

  91. Do my eyes deceive me by zo219 · · Score: 1

    . .. or is this an entire thread exploring the concepts, A: eating food, and B: sleeping.

    Oh, man. Please get girlfriends, 'k? I worry about you.

    1. Re:Do my eyes deceive me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      > . .. or is this an entire thread exploring the concepts, A: eating food, and B: sleeping.
      >
      > Oh, man. Please get girlfriends, 'k? I worry about you.

      Why? I can get a good night's sleep, slam back 24 ounces of Jolt to wake up in the morning, belch out the excess CO2, put in a solid day's work, come back home, (optional: Frag n00bs until 0300h on Friday nights), cook something tasty, and use the food to eat myself into a stupor and guarantee a good night's sleep?

      Why fuck up paradise?

  92. It's only caffeine! Get over it! by cbreaker · · Score: 1

    Every single one of these drinks is just a sugary mess with lots of caffeine. It's a big marketing joke on everyone that buys into it.

    You can buy a bottle of caffeine pills for next to nothing, if it's that important to you. 50mg caffeine each pill; pop three and you saved yourself $8 worth of nasty tasting "energy drinks."

    For me, I'll drink my morning coffee and a few cokes during the day. Admitantly, I drink too much coke, but it's just so damned tastey. I could give a rats ass about Caffeine.

    ps. Anyone that says they are addicted to caffeine is a poser.

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  93. Re:13? by bahamat · · Score: 1
    What's even wierder is that when I saw this story there were 13 comments posted.


    I'd like to know who the brain surgeon is who modded my previous post redundant. Offtopic? yes. Overrated? probably. Stupid? Most definately. But redundant? There were only 13 previous posts! I mean come on people? How many people before me posted "there were 13 comments to this story"?

    Hint for moderators: This post is offtopic.
  94. My mood was chipper. Too chipper. by incog8723 · · Score: 1

    My mood was chipper. Too chipper.

    The simple lexicography of these redundant statements begs a different tale.

  95. Diet Rockstar, no Nutrasweet!!! by TheNarrator · · Score: 1
    They forgot to mention, IMHO, the best energy ever, that being Diet Rockstar.

    Check out the review all the goodness of Rockstar without the sugar and WITHOUT NUTRASWEET! I usually get a headache and an aftertaste after I consume a lot of Nutrasweet but Diet Rockstar leaves me just fine.

  96. Re:Pah! I laugh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1200mg in a few hours. I passed out a few times (dehydrated) and also didn't sleep for quite a while.

  97. Where are the... by FrostByte12 · · Score: 1

    Bawls. That's about all there is to say, skipping the greatest and most aptly named caffiene drink of all time.

  98. Quitting caffeine... by n17ikh · · Score: 1

    Something I have foun that works to quit caffeine is a carbonated but non-caffeinated drink such as Sierra Mist or something similar. Just start buying it instead of your caffeinated drink and its effect is similar to one of those fake cigarettes or that Bac-Off stuff for chewing tobacco. It uses the placebo effect to make you *think* you're still getting the caffeine, when in reality you're not. Eventually you can just give up the drink altogether.

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  99. Energy drinks by core_dump_0 · · Score: 1

    I have a very low tolerance with caffeine - I usually am fine with just a cup of tea if I need it.

    Once I tried one of those energy drinks - I just took one slug and it was so extremely potent. I never had them again.

  100. No-Doz by NilObject · · Score: 1

    What about No-Doz?! Pah! You people forget the classics all too easily.

    It's funny this article appeared because I'm doing Relay For Life right now (the 24-hour walking relay to raise money for cancer research and patient support) and I had No-Doz not too long ago. I'm on my break right now, but that No-Doz sure helps keep me up. I've been trying to quit caffeine for the past month (it sucks, a lot) but I had to give in because I'm coming close to being up for 24 hours straight.

    It's hard to quit caffeine when you're surrounded by damned Pepsi machines. (I go to CalPoly in San Luis Obispo, the college that Pepsi basically owns). I'm getting there though. It'll be nice when I can go a week without caffeine and not have migraines from hell. :-/

  101. Re:Pah! I laugh! by Buck2 · · Score: 1

    115 lbs?

    Are you 12 years old?

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  102. Red Devil, Russian style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On my numerous visits to St. Petersburg (Russia, you know), obviously russified version of Red Devil has provided plenty of boost to me and my friends. It's half the price of regular Red Devil and contains 9 percent alcohol (thus subtitled "alcoenergy"). After half dozen of those, maintaining insane drinking spree is childs' play and a bottle of vodka is enough for those hours between 6 am and noon. What an innovation. :P

  103. my question by BlackShirt · · Score: 1

    "At this point, my energy level was not only elevated, it was speeding toward the red line."

    Could energy level be measured by med\ trainer ? they got to have some routine measures, right?

  104. Caffeine levels - RedBull? by rainman1976 · · Score: 1

    I have been drinking 1 RedBull every morning in replacement for coffee, and it's great!! At first I didn't like the taste but it grew on me (a-la Fresca, or 50/50). I drank 2 of these 1 morning on the way to work and I almost drove off the road.... caffeine levels in Redbull are phenomenal. Also if you live in the NEPA area, try some Turkey Hill Iced Tea... This stuff cranks! -Rainman1976

  105. Re:Pah! I laugh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm finnish you insensitive clod.

  106. Re:It's only caffeine! Get over it! by linzeal · · Score: 1

    Tell you what, you go find my ex-gf down in san jose and wake up next to her in the morning and tell her this, "Honey, I've thrown away all the caffiene in the house and hidden the keys to our cars so we can't get anymore. Let's be pure with our bodies, put that down! What the hell are you doing? AHHHHHHHHHHHH." Ok, once you have done that you tell me this shit has no addictive properties.

  107. MIssed Starbucks Double Shot. And Coffee by billstewart · · Score: 1

    He missed the normal energy drinks like Coffee, Tea, Chocolate, etc. The one crossover-marketed beverage I've seen is Starbucks Double Shot, which is a little $2 can containing espresso and cream. Unlike most of the genre, it actually tastes good!

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    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  108. Re:Pah! I laugh! by Stephonovich · · Score: 1
    16, actually. Flyweight category. I have a future as a jockey, I suppose...

    And no, I wouldn't consider a life without meat to be enjoyable. Meat is good. Large slabs of almost raw meat, dripping with blood... so good.

    (-:Stephonovich:-)

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    "Who needs reincarnation when we've got parallel universes?" -Me
  109. Taste -- Amp is the winner. . . However by Iron · · Score: 1

    I have been drinking Amp for the last couple years
    and it's taste has been unbeatable.

    Right now I am drinking my special mix. . .

    50% Sobe 'No Fear', 25% Mountain Dew, 25% Raspberry Juice

    It tastes good, and I couldn't go to sleep untill 4:00 this this morning. Note to self -- experiment with drinks earlier in the day.

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    "I am free of All Prejustice. I Hate Everyone."
  110. Heard after the 13th can.... by JessLeah · · Score: 1

    "I AM THE GREAT CORNHOLIO! NYyhahhahahahahaahnhhhnnhnyhynnnnhhahh! My bunghole will speak now!! Are you threatening me!??!?"

    1. Re:Heard after the 13th can.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut your mouth, bitch.

  111. Table of data for Caffeine Content of Beverages by PurifyYourMind · · Score: 1

    A very useful link...
    Caffeine Content of Beverages

  112. QA Your work by theslashdude · · Score: 1

    Boy, I'm glad I don't have to QA your work!

  113. Re:Is it me, or was that an utterly worthless arti by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 1

    Seriously, I was hoping the guy was going to get blood drawn 15 minutes after each drink to see what the ammount of caffeine per pint of blood was.

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    Yes Francis, the world has gone crazy.
  114. Cream of Crack by snoopyjd · · Score: 1

    I love these. They go down smoth even when warm, and the cream base is very sothing on your stomach (especially at 3am after you have had three or four).

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  115. one more year by darkharlequin · · Score: 1

    and they will be performing human trials with real tooth implants--stem cells differentiated into dental cell tissue that grows into a real tooth.

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    i am so very tired....