Yeah, it's likely it'll take a long time to fix it.
Gerald Tenenbaum (the guy who pointed out the mistake) is quite well known, so if he feels that this affects the paper badly, it's probably quite true - and it maybe a while before people get around coming up with an alternative.
(I know this because Tenenbaum is known to my advisor, Jean Bellissard.)
It's always been blaming somebody or something for the problems in the society.
During the middle ages, certain literature was deemed inappropriate and were censored/banned for being the cause of several problems of that time.
Later on, it was the radio and how it was spreading bad cultural values. Television followed, and people find the need to censor Internet now.
Games are just another target, I remember that in some Asian country, a board game was banned because there was an element where you would end up as being a junkie.
People forget that we have violent instincts within us, just because we have learnt to temper them does not mean that they do not exist. Some people have trouble controlling them, and we can try and find ways of shifting the blame, but the fact is that no matter what, there will always be someone or the other who'd do something stupid.
And with each new age, we'd find something or the other to blame it all on.
Usability design is not merely throwing together a bunch of buttons, fields and text. It's a whole lot more than that and involves some quite well thought and established principles, both quantitative and qualitative.
The best designs are those that you do not notice and are really intuitive - there is a reason why usability experts get paid so much.
What I suggested was start something of an Opensource UI consulting group, where a bunch of usability experts could pitch in and help out the development of UIs and do some serious usability testing of interfaces.
If you _ever_ worked in any half-decent usability project, you'd realize that the time and effort that goes into the precise positioning of a button involves a whole lot more than meets the eye.
But that argument will keep getting used, unless there is a gradual change that happens, as you said.
See, you would need to expose people to the new system, and unless you do, you will never make it popular.
People are used to Windows because it's popular. Why do they want Windows? Because they are used to it.
Unless other alternatives slowly start creeping in, it's going to be next to impossible.
Yes, you'd have to break the user-base at some point of time or the other, but it needs to start _somewhere_.
Not unless we all want to be using Microsoft products 10 years down the line, too.:-) Remember, 10 years down the line, it would be 19 years of being stuck to the same vendor.
As much as I'd like to disagree, it's true - MS does have the backing and expertise to do something.
UIs in Opensource are a really big problem - not because they aren't good, but because they're not _tested_ - UI testing costs money and is not as easy as most people would think.
Most end users are not CLI geeks, and for them usability plays a _VERY_ important role. Which is why, I strongly support the development of an Opensource usability team.
If there are usability geeks around here, maybe we could all pitch in and do something. What do you folks say?
Most people forget the overhead costs of switching to an entirely new system.
However, it's worth noting that this is more of a short-term decision than a long-term one. If they did switch to Opensource solutions now, it would cost them money in the immediate future, and loss of productivity.
However, 5 years from now, once the people are quite used to the new system - it would be a breeze. However, 5 years down the line, the same argument would be used to once again not switch to Opensource.
It's a vicious circle, and you would have to break out of it at some point of time or the other.
And if the govt. of Sweden is convinced, it is their own stupidity, don't blame some kid in Europe trying to protect his rights.
If Iran sent me a notice saying that I'm violating so shariat laws, I'd send an equally vocal and Fuck-you letter to them.
Your argument tries to shift the blame on the people responding, rather than the industry and the government that actually supports these laws.
Blame the RIAA and MPAA and our government - do not blame some guy in Europe for retorting back. If anything, we need more people like this, who can show how ridiculous this whole thing is.
Nobody takes away the God-given right of a Slashdotter to share music and movies, not to mention watch movies for free. And anybody who makes money out of anything that has anything to do with the movie or music industry is evil, and it is the right of a Slashdotter to rip them off and distribute the spoils among the poor downtrodden geeks of the Slash-wood forest.
A friend of mine got a C&D for sharing one of the Star Trek blooper episodes -- I suppose they were just looking for the keywords and then send you a letter.
It's really dishonest of you to try and compare the fiasco we are involved in to WW2. A valid comparison would have been if Japan bombed us and then we invaded China.
The first country that the US attacked and invaded after Pearl Harbour was Morocco -- a *French* colony that had nothing to do with either the Japanese or the Germans.
Speaking about medical problems, what is the worst thing in your opinion: smoking 5 cigarettes a day when you feel "not so good" or comitting suicide at the end of a long depression that could have been avoided with a few cigarettes?
Thank you very much, but I'll keep my cigarettes...
Yeah, until the five becomes ten. And the ten becomes twenty.
And then you realize that you've shaky hands, bad breath, a fucked up lung and black teeth. Not to mention that people will stay a mile away from you.
That depression is only made worse by your dependance on Nicotine.
You'd probably have never gotten into that depression in the first place if you had not started smoking.
But maybe you'd do us all a favour - you'd kill yourself and in the process cause fewer health problems to those around you. Sheesh.
No, the reason I said that was because I know a lot of smokers who're nicotine-dependent who could not switch to an alternative such as chewing a nicotine gum or something like that. The reason is because they are quite used to having a cigarette in their hands and the habit of smoking, that it's quite hard for them to let go of that, even if they do find alternatives for the nicotine intake.
Your solution will never come to fruition, not just for the reasons that you mentioned but because even if the tobacco companies in this country agree, a company in China will make them instead and Philip Morris will raise a hue and a cry.
Most smokers I know are almost militant about their right to smoke anywhere, absolutely ignoring the irritation and harm that they cause others.
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Wow. That site seems to have a lot of other cool stuff, too. Thanks!
I'm guessing you're probably not the same James Wanless as the tarot reader/whatever?
IMHO, numerology should be treated like any other -ology,
Errr, numerology is more of a mystical study, considered to be pseudoscience.
Perhaps you meant Number Theory?
You must be a pure mathematician.
;-)
You seem quite cut off from the reality of a first post.
quit watching movies and read a godamn book
Really?
As a matter of fact, I do.
Yeah, it's likely it'll take a long time to fix it.
Gerald Tenenbaum (the guy who pointed out the mistake) is quite well known, so if he feels that this affects the paper badly, it's probably quite true - and it maybe a while before people get around coming up with an alternative.
(I know this because Tenenbaum is known to my advisor, Jean Bellissard.)
Matt Damon?
Matt Damon!
Matt Damon.
I assume that was a compliment and not a disparage? :-)
It's always been blaming somebody or something for the problems in the society.
During the middle ages, certain literature was deemed inappropriate and were censored/banned for being the cause of several problems of that time.
Later on, it was the radio and how it was spreading bad cultural values. Television followed, and people find the need to censor Internet now.
Games are just another target, I remember that in some Asian country, a board game was banned because there was an element where you would end up as being a junkie.
People forget that we have violent instincts within us, just because we have learnt to temper them does not mean that they do not exist. Some people have trouble controlling them, and we can try and find ways of shifting the blame, but the fact is that no matter what, there will always be someone or the other who'd do something stupid.
And with each new age, we'd find something or the other to blame it all on.
*sigh*
Why don't women from Duke Nukem come and offer me some sweet loving?
IAAUD -- I Am A Usability Designer/HCI major.
Usability design is not merely throwing together a bunch of buttons, fields and text. It's a whole lot more than that and involves some quite well thought and established principles, both quantitative and qualitative.
The best designs are those that you do not notice and are really intuitive - there is a reason why usability experts get paid so much.
What I suggested was start something of an Opensource UI consulting group, where a bunch of usability experts could pitch in and help out the development of UIs and do some serious usability testing of interfaces.
If you _ever_ worked in any half-decent usability project, you'd realize that the time and effort that goes into the precise positioning of a button involves a whole lot more than meets the eye.
But that argument will keep getting used, unless there is a gradual change that happens, as you said.
:-) Remember, 10 years down the line, it would be 19 years of being stuck to the same vendor.
See, you would need to expose people to the new system, and unless you do, you will never make it popular.
People are used to Windows because it's popular. Why do they want Windows? Because they are used to it.
Unless other alternatives slowly start creeping in, it's going to be next to impossible.
Yes, you'd have to break the user-base at some point of time or the other, but it needs to start _somewhere_.
Not unless we all want to be using Microsoft products 10 years down the line, too.
As much as I'd like to disagree, it's true - MS does have the backing and expertise to do something.
UIs in Opensource are a really big problem - not because they aren't good, but because they're not _tested_ - UI testing costs money and is not as easy as most people would think.
Most end users are not CLI geeks, and for them usability plays a _VERY_ important role. Which is why, I strongly support the development of an Opensource usability team.
If there are usability geeks around here, maybe we could all pitch in and do something. What do you folks say?
True.
Most people forget the overhead costs of switching to an entirely new system.
However, it's worth noting that this is more of a short-term decision than a long-term one. If they did switch to Opensource solutions now, it would cost them money in the immediate future, and loss of productivity.
However, 5 years from now, once the people are quite used to the new system - it would be a breeze. However, 5 years down the line, the same argument would be used to once again not switch to Opensource.
It's a vicious circle, and you would have to break out of it at some point of time or the other.
And if the govt. of Sweden is convinced, it is their own stupidity, don't blame some kid in Europe trying to protect his rights.
If Iran sent me a notice saying that I'm violating so shariat laws, I'd send an equally vocal and Fuck-you letter to them.
Your argument tries to shift the blame on the people responding, rather than the industry and the government that actually supports these laws.
Blame the RIAA and MPAA and our government - do not blame some guy in Europe for retorting back. If anything, we need more people like this, who can show how ridiculous this whole thing is.
No, this is Slashdot.
Nobody takes away the God-given right of a Slashdotter to share music and movies, not to mention watch movies for free. And anybody who makes money out of anything that has anything to do with the movie or music industry is evil, and it is the right of a Slashdotter to rip them off and distribute the spoils among the poor downtrodden geeks of the Slash-wood forest.
On the other hand, when EFF suggests the same thing, these same people stay quiet and not say a word.
Bloody pirate hypocrites. ARRRRRRRR! x-(
Heh.
A friend of mine got a C&D for sharing one of the Star Trek blooper episodes -- I suppose they were just looking for the keywords and then send you a letter.
First the RedSox, then Bush. And now this.
;)
So this is what the third horseman looks like
Ahoy, folks. The end is nigh.
It's not _exactly_ the first time.
The MPAA has been doing this for quite a while.
I remember when they sent a C&D letter to Pirate Bay, a filesharing site in Sweden for putting up the sound-track of Shrek on Torrent.
Ofcourse, the response was even better - classic Fuck You.
And I'm sure we all remember the fiasco of movie premiers being up on filesharing networks, and how the MPAA raised a ruckus.
Definitely not the first time, I guess they're just going to intensify their efforts more.
It's really dishonest of you to try and compare the fiasco we are involved in to WW2.
A valid comparison would have been if Japan bombed us and then we invaded China.
The first country that the US attacked and invaded after Pearl Harbour was Morocco -- a *French* colony that had nothing to do with either the Japanese or the Germans.
Funny, eh?
Imagine a world without lawyers
;)
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
You may draw the analogy
Not necessarily.
The problem is that some ideas are not quite scaleable, and the technology nor adoption may exist at the time of filing the patent.
Hence the longer duration given for adoption of a patented technology.
It's a very valid and nice reason, unfortunately lawyer motherfuckers like these abuse the system.
A few more such patents, and this will end up snowballing companies into realizing how futile their patents are.
Slowly, companies are beginning to realize that although they could make money suing people, they could also get sued by equally greedy asshats.
It's only a matter of time. You can only be so stupid.
You analogy is quite flawed.
You can substitute noise in the place of smoke, and I'll agree with you.
Not all children are annoying, and nor are they noisy -- almost any argument that can be used on children can be extended to adults, too.
If children are noisy, troublesome and messy, so are several grownups -- by your logic, these adults should be shunned, too.
Besides, you're forgetting the fact that children can't quite help how they are -- it's natural, and it's inevitable.
A smoker _has_ a choice of not smoking at a place.
Btw, in a lot of places in Asia, you're not allowed to smoke unless it _explicitly_ says that you can.
It's a cultural thing. Business owners in those countries do realize that smoking affects the business, and don't allow smokers.
That is a rarity, because businesses in this country seldom swing towards any one section of the populace.
Speaking about medical problems, what is the worst thing in your opinion: smoking 5 cigarettes a day when you feel "not so good" or comitting suicide at the end of a long depression that could have been avoided with a few cigarettes?
Thank you very much, but I'll keep my cigarettes...
Yeah, until the five becomes ten. And the ten becomes twenty.
And then you realize that you've shaky hands, bad breath, a fucked up lung and black teeth. Not to mention that people will stay a mile away from you.
That depression is only made worse by your dependance on Nicotine.
You'd probably have never gotten into that depression in the first place if you had not started smoking.
But maybe you'd do us all a favour - you'd kill yourself and in the process cause fewer health problems to those around you. Sheesh.
No, the reason I said that was because I know a lot of smokers who're nicotine-dependent who could not switch to an alternative such as chewing a nicotine gum or something like that. The reason is because they are quite used to having a cigarette in their hands and the habit of smoking, that it's quite hard for them to let go of that, even if they do find alternatives for the nicotine intake.
Your solution will never come to fruition, not just for the reasons that you mentioned but because even if the tobacco companies in this country agree, a company in China will make them instead and Philip Morris will raise a hue and a cry.
Most smokers I know are almost militant about their right to smoke anywhere, absolutely ignoring the irritation and harm that they cause others.