Don't assume just because these systems can only push resolutions around 30x40 that they can't be used to do some pretty creative things. Chess? Checkers? Anyone here check out FICS lately? Sure, the graphics are the computer equivalent of a five dollar travel set.. people still buy 5$ magnetic travel sets for a reason.
If the game is fun, the graphics are secondary.
-GiH
At what point does documentation become the beginings of coding? I've noticed a tendancy with myself that my best documents start as feature lists, extend into full english problem break-downs, morph into solution concepts, finally a bit of psuedo-code, and at last either C++ or Perl, depending on the app. (obviously with C++ the switch over is just a wee bit more obvious as I start cutting up psuedo-code into object bits.)
Bear in mind, I'm still at the 'play with code' stage, and don't do this for a living yet. Still, the back-end update and file management tools for my web-page are finally coming up to speed. (my target is to have a system so simple my mother can maintain it.. which is good, because she probably will.;) )
I sense a disturbance in the topic.. I believe it has left me. it's so easy to fall to the dark side.
Heh,
has anyone else noticed the tendancy for one or two of the early/. posters to be decidly pro-MS, anti-linux? Rather, I take that back, that makes it sound to simple; no, this is a trend to post almost exactly the kind of rhetoric Microsoft spits out.
Subconciously repeating what MS tells them to think through any of the media outlets 'ol Bill is striving to conquer, or maybe some farming from MS?
Heh, yeah, this is paranoid. But anyway,/. editors, has a report ever been run against which users or (if you record it) IPs are posting against some subjects. Heh, now there are some numbers I'd really be interested in seeing.
The settlers of Cattan, aka. die seidlers von cattan, is a great game of resource ownership, that allows free trade. Competition for control of resource production is a dominant factor, but it's somewhat pointless to attempt to exclude others from common resources. Play the game, it's not exactly zero-sum. too much interaction between the players.
So says a man who has never played a square roleplaying game. If you can't read, you can't play.
Though I must admit it won't put your vocabulary through so much of a workout as Dickens, or even King.
-GiH
hmmmm..
Maybe it was just me.. no.. I just checked the tape.. Look at the Harkonen craft if you want 'true' ornithopters. I believe however; that some of you have taken alot of what appeared in the games, and what others wrote after Dune, and applying it to the vision expressed by Herbert. The simple fact is that he rarely talks about wings flapping on the ornithopter (In fact, I can't remember even on time.. but I give the benefit of doubt), only setting them to certain degrees.. ie when taking off to escape the worm, Leto set them fully back and fired the engines, risking the destruction of the wings.. which also suggests that the wings themselves ARE post-wright brothers design.
Just because wings move, and they author misnamed the machine, dosen't mean it's a mechanical bird.
Even if they totally glossed over the subject of the book, I'm more interested in seeing dr Yeui brought foward, at least enough to match his pridominance in the book.
One other note though, I loved that scene where the assasin is running, and Gurney takes him down, all my friends and I were certain at that moment that the story had been re-written with Gurney as a bad guy.
Ah, but they didn't deal with the most important detail, and certainly didn't emphasize it properly. Suk training blocks violent thoughts or actions. That's why they all trusted him.
Personally I would have prefered it if they added the scene where he gives paul the little book of verse, and used that to elaborate on Suk training.
>I don't ban SF entirely though - I just let them read it for a couple of hours a week. I decided on this action after reading about the Dungeons & Dragons teenagers in America, and all the reality-removed mischief they got up to, thanks to the influence of SF.
Erg.. where did I leave my flamer. Er... rather.. I mean I am highly appreciative of your obviously well thought out argument that D&D promotes reality loss.;)
-GiH
Yes, it's hot down here.
>
Duncan got hit by a rocket. He's dead. You're thinking of Gurnie Halleck (Jon Leuc in the first movie heh), and he does live. In the book Duncan goes down underground with sword in-hand.. much cooler, but still.. fun to see the look on his face.
As for the Suk school, you're right.. it's sposed to be nearly impossible and a huge thing.. if only they bothered to narate to the audience what the hell the suk school was!
-GiH
>
The fremen from the book called him their Messiah, I guess the director decided to take the liberty of Changing Maud Dib from the name of the small desert mice, to their word for Messiah. I must say though, if they don't call him Usal, I will break these people.
As for the Tooth, that scene is somewhat in the book. He leaves the room and starts talking to himeself, you must remember, Baron Harkonen wasn't exactly sane.
-GiH
I know, I prolly spelled the subject wrong, shoot someone else.
anyway, I tend to see that intelligence is being bred into our society. Like tends to seek like, we want to be in relationships with people who are mentally stimulating to ourselves.
Granted, over time there will be a higher population of quickly reproducing unintelligent masses. However, in balance to this there are now, have always been, and will always be those people descended from people who think. People who do not want to, and will not tolerate, being married to a person who is incapable of sharing in phylosophical discussions with them. (Defining phylosophy as a the usual meandering part logic part fact part imagination conversations that tend to occur here and elsewhere... i.e. this bit).
I'm going to go off and find someone to procreate with, any intelligent barbi dolls in Chicago area may apply. heh heh.
-GiH
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Don't assume just because these systems can only push resolutions around 30x40 that they can't be used to do some pretty creative things. Chess? Checkers? Anyone here check out FICS lately? Sure, the graphics are the computer equivalent of a five dollar travel set.. people still buy 5$ magnetic travel sets for a reason. If the game is fun, the graphics are secondary. -GiH
At what point does documentation become the beginings of coding? I've noticed a tendancy with myself that my best documents start as feature lists, extend into full english problem break-downs, morph into solution concepts, finally a bit of psuedo-code, and at last either C++ or Perl, depending on the app. (obviously with C++ the switch over is just a wee bit more obvious as I start cutting up psuedo-code into object bits.)
;) )
Bear in mind, I'm still at the 'play with code' stage, and don't do this for a living yet. Still, the back-end update and file management tools for my web-page are finally coming up to speed. (my target is to have a system so simple my mother can maintain it.. which is good, because she probably will.
I sense a disturbance in the topic.. I believe it has left me. it's so easy to fall to the dark side.
-GiH
Heh, /. posters to be decidly pro-MS, anti-linux? Rather, I take that back, that makes it sound to simple; no, this is a trend to post almost exactly the kind of rhetoric Microsoft spits out.
/. editors, has a report ever been run against which users or (if you record it) IPs are posting against some subjects. Heh, now there are some numbers I'd really be interested in seeing.
has anyone else noticed the tendancy for one or two of the early
Subconciously repeating what MS tells them to think through any of the media outlets 'ol Bill is striving to conquer, or maybe some farming from MS?
Heh, yeah, this is paranoid. But anyway,
-GiH
Has anyone noticed that the date of the original attack, 2/26/1993 and the date of the second attack 9/11/2001 both add to 2021?
-GiH
if only the rest of reality could be so easily confused. Yes officer, I'm innocent.
The settlers of Cattan, aka. die seidlers von cattan, is a great game of resource ownership, that allows free trade. Competition for control of resource production is a dominant factor, but it's somewhat pointless to attempt to exclude others from common resources. Play the game, it's not exactly zero-sum. too much interaction between the players.
-GiH
So says a man who has never played a square roleplaying game. If you can't read, you can't play. Though I must admit it won't put your vocabulary through so much of a workout as Dickens, or even King. -GiH
hmmmm..
Maybe it was just me.. no.. I just checked the tape.. Look at the Harkonen craft if you want 'true' ornithopters. I believe however; that some of you have taken alot of what appeared in the games, and what others wrote after Dune, and applying it to the vision expressed by Herbert. The simple fact is that he rarely talks about wings flapping on the ornithopter (In fact, I can't remember even on time.. but I give the benefit of doubt), only setting them to certain degrees.. ie when taking off to escape the worm, Leto set them fully back and fired the engines, risking the destruction of the wings.. which also suggests that the wings themselves ARE post-wright brothers design.
Just because wings move, and they author misnamed the machine, dosen't mean it's a mechanical bird.
-GiH
I noticed.
I consider breaking them. But I will give them time to prove me wrong.
-GiH
Even if they totally glossed over the subject of the book, I'm more interested in seeing dr Yeui brought foward, at least enough to match his pridominance in the book.
One other note though, I loved that scene where the assasin is running, and Gurney takes him down, all my friends and I were certain at that moment that the story had been re-written with Gurney as a bad guy.
-GiH
Ah, but they didn't deal with the most important detail, and certainly didn't emphasize it properly.
Suk training blocks violent thoughts or actions. That's why they all trusted him.
Personally I would have prefered it if they added the scene where he gives paul the little book of verse, and used that to elaborate on Suk training.
-GiH
>I don't ban SF entirely though - I just let them read it for a couple of hours a week. I decided on this action after reading about the Dungeons & Dragons teenagers in America, and all the reality-removed mischief they got up to, thanks to the influence of SF. ;)
Erg.. where did I leave my flamer. Er... rather.. I mean I am highly appreciative of your obviously well thought out argument that D&D promotes reality loss.
-GiH
Yes, it's hot down here.
> Duncan got hit by a rocket. He's dead. You're thinking of Gurnie Halleck (Jon Leuc in the first movie heh), and he does live. In the book Duncan goes down underground with sword in-hand.. much cooler, but still.. fun to see the look on his face. As for the Suk school, you're right.. it's sposed to be nearly impossible and a huge thing.. if only they bothered to narate to the audience what the hell the suk school was! -GiH
> The fremen from the book called him their Messiah, I guess the director decided to take the liberty of Changing Maud Dib from the name of the small desert mice, to their word for Messiah. I must say though, if they don't call him Usal, I will break these people. As for the Tooth, that scene is somewhat in the book. He leaves the room and starts talking to himeself, you must remember, Baron Harkonen wasn't exactly sane. -GiH
I know, I prolly spelled the subject wrong, shoot someone else.
anyway, I tend to see that intelligence is being bred into our society. Like tends to seek like, we want to be in relationships with people who are mentally stimulating to ourselves.
Granted, over time there will be a higher population of quickly reproducing unintelligent masses. However, in balance to this there are now, have always been, and will always be those people descended from people who think. People who do not want to, and will not tolerate, being married to a person who is incapable of sharing in phylosophical discussions with them. (Defining phylosophy as a the usual meandering part logic part fact part imagination conversations that tend to occur here and elsewhere... i.e. this bit).
I'm going to go off and find someone to procreate with, any intelligent barbi dolls in Chicago area may apply. heh heh. -GiH
All hail discordia!
Hand me a hot dog roll now.