Could the satellite possibly be used for anything other than its intended purpose if control was usurped? You never know what comes out of the brains of some techie.
Who would ever have thougt about...
...a text-mode Quacke (only yesterday)?
...runig Linux on a game console (few weeks ago)?
etc.
Then I don't count all aibo and furby hacks and all other stupid things we do with our computers.
A hacker will probably first get into the system and then find things to use it to his/her benefit and enjoyment.
You should update your sig. To say "Stupid 7" for example.
Belgians and Frenchmen will both call their respective currency "Franc" (Or "Frank")
There is of course a Belgian franc and a Frensh Franc. 1FRF ~= 6BEF btw...
france != belgium. (though some peaple in both countries would like it to be so)
Here in Belgium the new prices in Euro have been invariably rounded up to a nice 10 cent multiple
This weeks (well known) "Makro-folder" has a whole page of (food)products with prices like 0,123 . Yes, including 1/1000 of a Euro... (a tenth of a cent)
Do you also wonder how they got Albert II to keep still long enough to get the picture for that coin right?
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The symbol has some more problems: officially only the circular symbol can be used. But that doesn't fit in any characterset. It is simply too wide.
They missed one other very big chance while creating the Euro: The nominal value of "one Euro" is simply too big. They could just have well had chosen some smaller value to be "one Euro" than we would never have to worry about decimal values. Simply integers. A vey big chance to make a programmers life so much easier and those stupid "economicans" missed bigg time. Boohoohoo:(
We all know why the Euro had to be this big: it could not be that one Euro was much less than one dollar...
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They should have put that cute little princess on them.
Oh damn, that image was created before Elizabeth was born.
/me is no monarchist!
Ah come on!
The.01,.02 and.05 are copper colored and increase in size by value
the.1,.2 and.5 are silver colored (Ti I guess) and also increase in size by value
The 1 and 2 coins are double colored (ring) and... (yes indeed)
AND All coins have different edges (for the blind mainly, but also very usefull for me)
A nice picture of all the coins can be found starting at http://euro.fgov.be/frames/ena_index.htm (in english), click on the left coin for the national side (head) or the right coin for the common side.
PS: most coins have NO heads at all! Only Belgium, The Netherlands and Luxemburg have put a head on all their coins. You can see the "head" side of every one of the 96 (12*8) coins at the above site.
Dollar users: check out the notes. How can any geek not be in love with such a sophisticated peace of money. (the images on the site do NOT give a good image of the notes. do it IRL)
Watermark, complementary doublesided printing, hologram, relief printing (for the blind), color changing metallic ink, UV-reacting fibers,... compare all those features with a mere dollar bill...
You think airwave deprived is bad?
Belgium is devided in two communities: the Flemish (Dutch) speeking and the Walloon (French) speeking part. Since "culture" is one of the things that is managed on a "community" level, there are different bodies licencing radio frequencies north and south of the linguistic border. In Brussels (bi-langual by federal law) both agencies hand out licences.
The result is that allmost all frequencies are double booked (except those used by national, government paid for, stations). The result is that you can not get any singnal clear (again, except for the shitty state radio stations). I think this is far worse than an empty spectrum.
Maybe this is the reason why a Belgian company made this box?
My niece (oh yes) recently opened a dinner-café here in Belgium (yes, the place where this thing comes from, also the country with most pubs per inhabitant...).
She has exactly what you describe. I have seen several suppliers of such system at last years Horeca expo. Most firms even come update the music collection every two weeks or so (some kind of subscription).
I can't imagine that such systems don't exist at the other side of the ocean.
Anyone noticed that there is NO carkit available what so ever? See the Accessories - Vehicle accessories page at the site.
Only a "Mobile charger". It is nothing more than a 12V car lighter plug!
That might be true. And to protect themselves from this accusition they have included Alien Ant Farm "Smooth Criminal" (they only recent song if I'm correct).
Continuing on that same song: why isn't Jackson's version banned? (like they did in the line Edwin Starr/Bruce Springstein "War")
I finally found someone still sane among the posters: Life must go on
It is beond any doubt that this incident is a tragedy without precedent. But if you are reading this, then you have survived and yout life will indeed go on. Then why not make the best out of it? Why not do the things you enjoy and have fun? Why not listen to any song you like?
Your Life Goes On, Enjoy It! as much as you can.
Even the President asked everyone to restart working and return to school, in other words continue with your life.
Even if this thing didn't kill you but it still stops you from living then the Bad Guys will have won. Don't let that happen. You are stronger.
A bit of history to why WAP enables mobile phones have no TCP/IP.
The GSM cellular mobile phone system was designed to carry voice signals to and from wireless phones: voice data
Making or receiving a call requires some kind of signalling of course. Currently all GSMs have what you could call an always-on signalling connection to the GSM network. This signalling has nothing to do with (computer) data transport so it was very normal to design a specific protocol just fort this application: no TCP, no IP, no nothing, just something specific between the BTS and the MU
A bit later in history the GSM operators and manifacturers noticed that they had a lot of spare bandwith in these signalling channels. An some engineers thout of a nice way to use it: SMS.
So SMS in fact uses the spare signalling bandwith. therefore SMS also uses the existing protocol to get that signalling to the phone: no TCP...
When SMS was first designed, it was to be a pager like system allowing msgs of up to 160 chars.
An again a bit later in history someone thougt that he could use those 160 char packets as the transport protocol for a new Wireless Application Protocol.
So WAP uses SMS that uses the signalling channel that does not use TCP. This is why a WAP enabled mobile phone has no TCP stack.
TCP was never needed in the original design of mobile voice calling. Afterward every revolution (first SMS then WAP) was buit on what was available.
Currently there is something really new: GPRS, a new transmission protocol (new type of radio signals). And GPRS is designed to carry (computer) data signals (instaid of only voice data for the original GSM) and therefore it was very logic to use a pretty good existing protocol: TCP/IP. That is whey a GPRS enabled phone now has some kind of TCP stack.
WAP was an still is an application layer over SMS. Wap has been around much longer than GPRS. WAP is dying now (according to the article) and GPRS is still in its kiddy shoos (according to some posts above even calling it vapourware).
We all know that SMS are messages of 160 chars sent over the signalling connections to the Mobile Unit. This will allways be slower then the slowest GPRS connection.
It is true that current GPRS phones do WAP over GPRS now, with a considerable speed increase.
Try putting the phonenumber of your SMS center in the international format. That should work.
It is not _your_ provider that blocks you from sending an sms, it is the roaming provider: he does not allow you to use his SMSc (and you probably don't know/programmed the number either).
But watch the cost. it could very well be the price of an international call (to your SMSc) PLUS the normal (home network) price of sending an SMS.
Schools are very happy to receive your "old" Pentiums.
Call your local primary school and ask when they will come pick it up:-)
This take-back-your-old-products sheme is allready in place for refridgerators in many European countries.
I'm no environmental fundamentalist, but I like this kind of nature care better than (say) Ozone speed limits .
Maybe they don't go into curb boxes, but they do go into the neighborhood DLC remote terminal....
I'd be happy to put one of these in my basement if the street cabinet is not big enough. Maybe the poster should get a deal with Verizon: rent verizon a part of your basement for the price of your connection. Every other DSL connection on that machine is pure profit to verizon.
if you don't have a straight line of copper going to the CO, you are SOL
To every telco claiming to provide DSL:
It is very easy: Stop putting the DSLAMS _only_ in yous COs. Put them wherever the straight line of copper ends.
The only reason you don't is that you're not willing to invest.
Big companies' arrogance annoys me more and more!.
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Could the satellite possibly be used for anything other than its intended purpose if control was usurped?
You never know what comes out of the brains of some techie.
Who would ever have thougt about...
...a text-mode Quacke (only yesterday)?
...runig Linux on a game console (few weeks ago)?
etc.
Then I don't count all aibo and furby hacks and all other stupid things we do with our computers.
A hacker will probably first get into the system and then find things to use it to his/her benefit and enjoyment.
You should update your sig. To say "Stupid 7" for example.
Belgians and Frenchmen will both call their respective currency "Franc" (Or "Frank")
There is of course a Belgian franc and a Frensh Franc. 1FRF ~= 6BEF btw...
france != belgium. (though some peaple in both countries would like it to be so)
Here in Belgium the new prices in Euro have been invariably rounded up to a nice 10 cent multiple
This weeks (well known) "Makro-folder" has a whole page of (food)products with prices like 0,123 . Yes, including 1/1000 of a Euro... (a tenth of a cent)
Do you also wonder how they got Albert II to keep still long enough to get the picture for that coin right?
The symbol has some more problems: officially only the circular symbol can be used. But that doesn't fit in any characterset. It is simply too wide.
:(
They missed one other very big chance while creating the Euro: The nominal value of "one Euro" is simply too big. They could just have well had chosen some smaller value to be "one Euro" than we would never have to worry about decimal values. Simply integers. A vey big chance to make a programmers life so much easier and those stupid "economicans" missed bigg time. Boohoohoo
We all know why the Euro had to be this big: it could not be that one Euro was much less than one dollar...
They should have put that cute little princess on them.
Oh damn, that image was created before Elizabeth was born.
/me is no monarchist!
Ah come on! .01, .02 and .05 are copper colored and increase in size by value
.1, .2 and .5 are silver colored (Ti I guess) and also increase in size by value
... (yes indeed)
... compare all those features with a mere dollar bill...
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the
The 1 and 2 coins are double colored (ring) and
AND All coins have different edges (for the blind mainly, but also very usefull for me)
A nice picture of all the coins can be found starting at http://euro.fgov.be/frames/ena_index.htm (in english), click on the left coin for the national side (head) or the right coin for the common side.
PS: most coins have NO heads at all! Only Belgium, The Netherlands and Luxemburg have put a head on all their coins. You can see the "head" side of every one of the 96 (12*8) coins at the above site.
Dollar users: check out the notes. How can any geek not be in love with such a sophisticated peace of money. (the images on the site do NOT give a good image of the notes. do it IRL)
Watermark, complementary doublesided printing, hologram, relief printing (for the blind), color changing metallic ink, UV-reacting fibers,
You think airwave deprived is bad?
Belgium is devided in two communities: the Flemish (Dutch) speeking and the Walloon (French) speeking part. Since "culture" is one of the things that is managed on a "community" level, there are different bodies licencing radio frequencies north and south of the linguistic border. In Brussels (bi-langual by federal law) both agencies hand out licences.
The result is that allmost all frequencies are double booked (except those used by national, government paid for, stations). The result is that you can not get any singnal clear (again, except for the shitty state radio stations). I think this is far worse than an empty spectrum.
Maybe this is the reason why a Belgian company made this box?
My niece (oh yes) recently opened a dinner-café here in Belgium (yes, the place where this thing comes from, also the country with most pubs per inhabitant...).
She has exactly what you describe. I have seen several suppliers of such system at last years Horeca expo. Most firms even come update the music collection every two weeks or so (some kind of subscription).
I can't imagine that such systems don't exist at the other side of the ocean.
If you can read slashdot with it, it is NOT obsolete!
Anyone noticed that there is NO carkit available what so ever? See the Accessories - Vehicle accessories page at the site.
Only a "Mobile charger". It is nothing more than a 12V car lighter plug!
Imagine taking the content you speak into a cell phone and convert it to a text arhcive.
It is called Echelon or something like that I believe...
Ir runs Epoc instaid of WinCE (Java does not qualify as an OS I think)
Since it contains a StronARM processor, converting this thing to Linux should be feasible.
Looking at the prices of other Psions I think $300 is a bit optimistic...
Err, one lithle thingy...
The "news" referenced in this song is the killing of citizens by armed forces i.e. the government. Go refresh your North-Irish history.
As clearly "stated" in other posts here this list bans lots of anti-war songs, therebye justifying violence performed by a government.
This song is against "governemental violence" and in fact doesn't say much about terrorism.
Don't get me wrong I'm 100% against this kind of list, "editorializing" (as it has been called here) and any form of cencorship.
That might be true. And to protect themselves from this accusition they have included Alien Ant Farm "Smooth Criminal" (they only recent song if I'm correct).
Continuing on that same song: why isn't Jackson's version banned? (like they did in the line Edwin Starr/Bruce Springstein "War")
I finally found someone still sane among the posters: Life must go on
It is beond any doubt that this incident is a tragedy without precedent. But if you are reading this, then you have survived and yout life will indeed go on. Then why not make the best out of it? Why not do the things you enjoy and have fun? Why not listen to any song you like?
Your Life Goes On, Enjoy It! as much as you can.
Even the President asked everyone to restart working and return to school, in other words continue with your life.
Even if this thing didn't kill you but it still stops you from living then the Bad Guys will have won. Don't let that happen. You are stronger.
on the NSA homepage, just below the link to the article mentioned in this post is a link Security-enhanced Linux.
If you did'nt find that on their wabpage you surely did not look very herd.
Mod this guy up!
Finally some-one (other than me) that points out that wap originally ran over sms, and was/is therefore slow.
I think not many of the posters saw the speed of wap over gprs yet
read my "history" a bit higher.
a GSM cell can extend several miles from the antenna (BTS).
A "normal" way of working might be:
A bit of history to why WAP enables mobile phones have no TCP/IP.
The GSM cellular mobile phone system was designed to carry voice signals to and from wireless phones: voice data
Making or receiving a call requires some kind of signalling of course. Currently all GSMs have what you could call an always-on signalling connection to the GSM network. This signalling has nothing to do with (computer) data transport so it was very normal to design a specific protocol just fort this application: no TCP, no IP, no nothing, just something specific between the BTS and the MU
A bit later in history the GSM operators and manifacturers noticed that they had a lot of spare bandwith in these signalling channels. An some engineers thout of a nice way to use it: SMS. So SMS in fact uses the spare signalling bandwith. therefore SMS also uses the existing protocol to get that signalling to the phone: no TCP...
When SMS was first designed, it was to be a pager like system allowing msgs of up to 160 chars.
An again a bit later in history someone thougt that he could use those 160 char packets as the transport protocol for a new Wireless Application Protocol.
So WAP uses SMS that uses the signalling channel that does not use TCP. This is why a WAP enabled mobile phone has no TCP stack.
TCP was never needed in the original design of mobile voice calling. Afterward every revolution (first SMS then WAP) was buit on what was available.
Currently there is something really new: GPRS, a new transmission protocol (new type of radio signals). And GPRS is designed to carry (computer) data signals (instaid of only voice data for the original GSM) and therefore it was very logic to use a pretty good existing protocol: TCP/IP. That is whey a GPRS enabled phone now has some kind of TCP stack.
WAP was just an application layer above GPRS
WAP was an still is an application layer over SMS. Wap has been around much longer than GPRS. WAP is dying now (according to the article) and GPRS is still in its kiddy shoos (according to some posts above even calling it vapourware).
We all know that SMS are messages of 160 chars sent over the signalling connections to the Mobile Unit. This will allways be slower then the slowest GPRS connection.
It is true that current GPRS phones do WAP over GPRS now, with a considerable speed increase.
GPRS is live and working over here (Belgium). You don't see it (radio remember) but is is no longer vapourware!
Try putting the phonenumber of your SMS center in the international format. That should work.
It is not _your_ provider that blocks you from sending an sms, it is the roaming provider: he does not allow you to use his SMSc (and you probably don't know/programmed the number either).
But watch the cost. it could very well be the price of an international call (to your SMSc) PLUS the normal (home network) price of sending an SMS.
Schools are very happy to receive your "old" Pentiums. :-)
Call your local primary school and ask when they will come pick it up
This take-back-your-old-products sheme is allready in place for refridgerators in many European countries.
I'm no environmental fundamentalist, but I like this kind of nature care better than (say) Ozone speed limits .
Yes!
I hope the telcos read your post to.
Maybe they don't go into curb boxes, but they do go into the neighborhood DLC remote terminal....
I'd be happy to put one of these in my basement if the street cabinet is not big enough. Maybe the poster should get a deal with Verizon: rent verizon a part of your basement for the price of your connection. Every other DSL connection on that machine is pure profit to verizon.
if you don't have a straight line of copper going to the CO, you are SOL
To every telco claiming to provide DSL:
It is very easy: Stop putting the DSLAMS _only_ in yous COs. Put them wherever the straight line of copper ends.
The only reason you don't is that you're not willing to invest.
Big companies' arrogance annoys me more and more!.