I'm pretty sure I'll get an off-topic for this, but...
Democracy is a thing that never existed. If we take a look far enough in the past, to the Roman Empired (when the so called Demoracy started), we can see that the people never had a saying in the matters. The best it get is the people selecting someone that will represent then as some sort of "consultants", and not the real decision makers.
Ah, they make it sound as if we were electing decision makers, but they are not. They are "consultants". And they are not one of our own. They are simply someone apointed by us, which is a quite different matter.
So, I have lost my hopes about democracy a long time ago, one as far as I can tell, it never existed, besides sometimes giving that impression.
Obviously, the corporations will win this one. If anything, they have better (as in "more expensive") lawyers, and can lay the case in a form that will not even convince the government, but also the regular John Doe, that this is a good thing.
Thats a regular history. In whatever for on shape (on Comunims, they are Political "Corporations"), the corporations hold the reins. And why should they think they should not ? After all, they are the ones that "elected" the politicians.
Yes, I know, that is quite a negative view to have about our government systems (capitalism, socialism, comunims... whatever), but when we see it happening everyday...
Oh yes, of course some Corporations have lost a few times... but only when the regular John Doe had some other corporation backing him (in most cases, some media corporation).
I'm not holding my breath. These patents will get through, and we will all suffer from it.
Lets face it, the MP3 populatity is due in great part to Napster and other services like it.
And, I don't think this patented stuff has anything to do in this game. If that were true, PNG would be the standard for net images (GIF and JPEG still holds their places).
For what I have seen of this format, it looks pretty good, but for it to became a de facto standard the way MP3 is today, using a patent free algoritm is not enough. Most users don't care about it.
I, for once, don't see many people using it in any forseeable future, unless something else give it a push and make it interesting for people to use it.
That is not too far from todays reality.
The first example is the way sites are built. The same time we have sites that are full of banners, flash, java and so on, and sites that are almost plain/text.
The second example is the IPv6 network. If you are connected to it, you will see that it does not have that many companies (greater exception are some research departments), we most sites are educational, research and so on.
And, lets not forget the Internet2 project.
In todays Internet environment, we have more then one "Internet", even suposing the Internet ever existed "per se" (Inter + Net).
No, it IS the document.
A good example I have for this is a.zip.pif Sircam infected file I received.
unzip -v listed the files without a problem, only saying there was some garbage on the begining of the file.
So, believe be, the document was there (checked also with a bounch of.doc.* and.xls.* that got here).
I agree M$ is not the problem "pre se".
The point is that non-MS admins tend to keep their systems upgraded with more frenquence then MS one's.
It's all about culture. MS seems (IMHO) to cultivate the "Do it couse it's easy, even if you don't know anything about it" posture. THAT is the base of our programs.
Of course, some may say that rWin interface is Virus oriented, but thats another matter entirely, if we conside that a patch that would have stopped CodeRed was avaliable 2 months or so before the worm started spreading...
What we really need is to patch the admins...
Well, as far as I'm concerned, I would say this is only trading one problem for another.
The trafic created by these Checksum tests would be se serious problem. Say, the SPAM will still be using my link to get to may MTA. Then, I also add some more trafic to check is it's a SPAM (and will most certainly get tons of false negatives, as stated before on several posts).
Overall, this ia a very bad idea.
I wan't able to read the article yet (/. effect ?), so maybe it's covered there, even tho I don't think so.
I have recently (about 2 months ago) opened an account on another ISP (this one for Cable). I chose and e-mail address like r[some-other-letter]@terra.com.br (just to put a finger on the culprid). Once I have lots of addresses, I simply chose not to use this one. Well, one would support that I would never get a spam on this addres, right ? wrong.
Only 3 days after, I received my first spam on this account. Of course I though "this darn bastards are selling e-mail addresses", and complained like hell to them. They went on swearing they did not sell addresses and so on and on. Well, that settled the matter was a spam I received which stated the name of the target
Dear Roberto
Well, my name is not Roberto (even tho it starts with "R"). What caused the spam ? They were recycling (reissuing?) e-mail addresses. Someone in the past had that same username on terra.com.br, did some dump things, and his address got in some spam lists. He was the target, not me. But once this address now belongs to me, I receive his spam.:-( But, once I did not indend fo use that address for anything else, it does straigh to/dev/null, after going through some filters to separed official communication from Terra.
I don't know if this recycling of usernames is a common practice elsewhere, but this is surely a good way to have you mailbox filled with spam:-(
Well, I really don't understand all this fuz about it.
First, this is not practical the way it is. Sure, this is a good research step, that _might_ lead to something useful for us all in the future. But this kind of transport is simply not viable for large scale marketing. Imagine the amount of air being moved around by 10 or so of these things. Not to mention the way the air moved by one of these monsters can influence another one near the first.
Hell, if I want a way to fly, I can just grab a paramotor (or whatever it's called in USA. It's a Paraglider with an helix attached to your back) and just fly around, with much less trouble, and running with much less gas.
Maybe with the advent of the LSB (Linux Standard Base),things will start to get a little less distribution dependant.
That is, of course, if all the distros (I'm particularly worried about RedHat and Caldera) really live up to it's standards. ---
Totally unlike RedHat which doesn't automatically install and run sendmail, apache, etc?
Are they still doing it ? One would think they should have learned about that by now.
Let me assue you that even tho RedHat is the biggest Linux distribution, they are not the only. One I'm sure don't do it (leaving every single service you install starting automaticaly) is Conectiva Linux, which happens to be the one I use.
The moral of the story is not to hire dumbass admin's who don't do their job. A patch for this was realeased *1 month* before this virus hit the streets!
You sir, are being too simplist about this.
Not only corporate machines where infected. Lost of machines from homeusers (I saw somewhere the number of DSL machines they found infected).
If hiring good admin's were the case, we could look at the machines that were not infected, not couse of the patch, but couse of some firewall rules, or couse the admin had disabled.ida support on IIS (couse once they didn't use it, there is not reason to leave it enabled).
I'm no lawyer. I'm no expert in USA Law. I'm not even an american.
That being said, lemme tell you why I don't think that is the case.
When MacOS X started shipping, there was no native program for it that did these functions (at least, not a single one branded MacOS X compatible). So, not including this set of tools would cause many potential users don't buy it couse they would not have the software to do these tasks (sure, just wait a few months til someone else creates the software you want). So, it was not hurting competition, nor imposing a monopoly.
Excuse me ? Starts up in 30 seconds ? You surely mean "Gives you a login prompt in 30 seconds", right ?
As you can easily notice, they tried something line this on WinNT 4. And after you had logged in, you would eventualy get an error message from a service that was still starting.
I don't mind waiting a couple of minutes for my OS to start. I just want it to be ready when it tells me "I'm Ready".
Their code is absolutely beautiful
So what ? Their final products sucks End users don't use their source code, but the binaries it produces. If the binaries keep crashing, what use it a beautiful source code ?
Maybe that's the whole point, and M$ should try stopping writing beautiful code, and start writing code that works and stop crashing every couple of hours, and leaving script kiddie get access to it in the mean time.
I may be completly wrong (I usualy am), but doesn't all these features you are talking about (better user accounts, stability) are present on WinNT (Workstation) and Win2K ?
As far as I can tell, the point is not that WinXP does not bring any inovation regarding Win98, but regarding Win2K.
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Actualy, DSA keys seems to be more secure. There are known issues about RSA algo, not to mention "patent" concerts (yes, I know the patent expired).
Yeah. If I took half and hour from work to home, I would get killed :-)
And then I messed up the HTML tags ... :-(
debrpm should read: deb<->rpm.
Shame on me for not using preview
Actualy, you can use alien to convert debrpm. .
If you are already using Conectiva Linux 7.0, just do apt-get install alien
Actualy, Conectiva Linux 7.0 uses RPM 4.
But apt is even more integrated with it then it was with RPM 3.
I'm pretty sure I'll get an off-topic for this, but ...
Democracy is a thing that never existed. If we take a look far enough in the past, to the Roman Empired (when the so called Demoracy started), we can see that the people never had a saying in the matters. The best it get is the people selecting someone that will represent then as some sort of "consultants", and not the real decision makers.
Ah, they make it sound as if we were electing decision makers, but they are not. They are "consultants". And they are not one of our own. They are simply someone apointed by us, which is a quite different matter.
So, I have lost my hopes about democracy a long time ago, one as far as I can tell, it never existed, besides sometimes giving that impression.
Obviously, the corporations will win this one. If anything, they have better (as in "more expensive") lawyers, and can lay the case in a form that will not even convince the government, but also the regular John Doe, that this is a good thing. ... whatever), but when we see it happening everyday ... ... but only when the regular John Doe had some other corporation backing him (in most cases, some media corporation).
Thats a regular history. In whatever for on shape (on Comunims, they are Political "Corporations"), the corporations hold the reins. And why should they think they should not ? After all, they are the ones that "elected" the politicians.
Yes, I know, that is quite a negative view to have about our government systems (capitalism, socialism, comunims
Oh yes, of course some Corporations have lost a few times
I'm not holding my breath. These patents will get through, and we will all suffer from it.
Lets face it, the MP3 populatity is due in great part to Napster and other services like it.
And, I don't think this patented stuff has anything to do in this game. If that were true, PNG would be the standard for net images (GIF and JPEG still holds their places).
For what I have seen of this format, it looks pretty good, but for it to became a de facto standard the way MP3 is today, using a patent free algoritm is not enough. Most users don't care about it.
I, for once, don't see many people using it in any forseeable future, unless something else give it a push and make it interesting for people to use it.
That is not too far from todays reality.
The first example is the way sites are built. The same time we have sites that are full of banners, flash, java and so on, and sites that are almost plain/text.
The second example is the IPv6 network. If you are connected to it, you will see that it does not have that many companies (greater exception are some research departments), we most sites are educational, research and so on.
And, lets not forget the Internet2 project.
In todays Internet environment, we have more then one "Internet", even suposing the Internet ever existed "per se" (Inter + Net).
Switching to Mozilla you get an extra bonnus. That is: IPv6 support. That is a feature that is missing a a good many browsers (like Netscape).
No, it IS the document. .zip.pif Sircam infected file I received. .doc.* and .xls.* that got here).
A good example I have for this is a
unzip -v listed the files without a problem, only saying there was some garbage on the begining of the file.
So, believe be, the document was there (checked also with a bounch of
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I agree M$ is not the problem "pre se". ...
The point is that non-MS admins tend to keep their systems upgraded with more frenquence then MS one's.
It's all about culture. MS seems (IMHO) to cultivate the "Do it couse it's easy, even if you don't know anything about it" posture. THAT is the base of our programs.
Of course, some may say that rWin interface is Virus oriented, but thats another matter entirely, if we conside that a patch that would have stopped CodeRed was avaliable 2 months or so before the worm started spreading...
What we really need is to patch the admins
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Well, as far as I'm concerned, I would say this is only trading one problem for another.
The trafic created by these Checksum tests would be se serious problem. Say, the SPAM will still be using my link to get to may MTA. Then, I also add some more trafic to check is it's a SPAM (and will most certainly get tons of false negatives, as stated before on several posts).
Overall, this ia a very bad idea.
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I wan't able to read the article yet (/. effect ?), so maybe it's covered there, even tho I don't think so.
:-( But, once I did not indend fo use that address for anything else, it does straigh to /dev/null, after going through some filters to separed official communication from Terra.
:-(
I have recently (about 2 months ago) opened an account on another ISP (this one for Cable). I chose and e-mail address like r[some-other-letter]@terra.com.br (just to put a finger on the culprid). Once I have lots of addresses, I simply chose not to use this one. Well, one would support that I would never get a spam on this addres, right ? wrong.
Only 3 days after, I received my first spam on this account. Of course I though "this darn bastards are selling e-mail addresses", and complained like hell to them. They went on swearing they did not sell addresses and so on and on. Well, that settled the matter was a spam I received which stated the name of the target
Dear Roberto
Well, my name is not Roberto (even tho it starts with "R"). What caused the spam ? They were recycling (reissuing?) e-mail addresses. Someone in the past had that same username on terra.com.br, did some dump things, and his address got in some spam lists. He was the target, not me. But once this address now belongs to me, I receive his spam.
I don't know if this recycling of usernames is a common practice elsewhere, but this is surely a good way to have you mailbox filled with spam
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Well, I really don't understand all this fuz about it.
First, this is not practical the way it is. Sure, this is a good research step, that _might_ lead to something useful for us all in the future. But this kind of transport is simply not viable for large scale marketing. Imagine the amount of air being moved around by 10 or so of these things. Not to mention the way the air moved by one of these monsters can influence another one near the first.
Hell, if I want a way to fly, I can just grab a paramotor (or whatever it's called in USA. It's a Paraglider with an helix attached to your back) and just fly around, with much less trouble, and running with much less gas.
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And, of course, I forgot to post the link to LSB.
http://www.linuxbase.org
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Maybe with the advent of the LSB (Linux Standard Base),things will start to get a little less distribution dependant.
That is, of course, if all the distros (I'm particularly worried about RedHat and Caldera) really live up to it's standards.
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Totally unlike RedHat which doesn't automatically install and run sendmail, apache, etc?
Are they still doing it ? One would think they should have learned about that by now.
Let me assue you that even tho RedHat is the biggest Linux distribution, they are not the only. One I'm sure don't do it (leaving every single service you install starting automaticaly) is Conectiva Linux, which happens to be the one I use.
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The moral of the story is not to hire dumbass admin's who don't do their job. A patch for this was realeased *1 month* before this virus hit the streets!
.ida support on IIS (couse once they didn't use it, there is not reason to leave it enabled).
You sir, are being too simplist about this.
Not only corporate machines where infected. Lost of machines from homeusers (I saw somewhere the number of DSL machines they found infected).
If hiring good admin's were the case, we could look at the machines that were not infected, not couse of the patch, but couse of some firewall rules, or couse the admin had disabled
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Then again, why would I use Microsoft if I don't trust its so called "security" ?
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I'm no lawyer. I'm no expert in USA Law. I'm not even an american.
That being said, lemme tell you why I don't think that is the case.
When MacOS X started shipping, there was no native program for it that did these functions (at least, not a single one branded MacOS X compatible). So, not including this set of tools would cause many potential users don't buy it couse they would not have the software to do these tasks (sure, just wait a few months til someone else creates the software you want). So, it was not hurting competition, nor imposing a monopoly.
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Excuse me ? Starts up in 30 seconds ? You surely mean "Gives you a login prompt in 30 seconds", right ?
As you can easily notice, they tried something line this on WinNT 4. And after you had logged in, you would eventualy get an error message from a service that was still starting.
I don't mind waiting a couple of minutes for my OS to start. I just want it to be ready when it tells me "I'm Ready".
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Their code is absolutely beautiful
So what ? Their final products sucks
End users don't use their source code, but the binaries it produces. If the binaries keep crashing, what use it a beautiful source code ?
Maybe that's the whole point, and M$ should try stopping writing beautiful code, and start writing code that works and stop crashing every couple of hours, and leaving script kiddie get access to it in the mean time.
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M$ DOES create new business opportunities. Can you say Antivirus companies ? :-)
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I may be completly wrong (I usualy am), but doesn't all these features you are talking about (better user accounts, stability) are present on WinNT (Workstation) and Win2K ?
As far as I can tell, the point is not that WinXP does not bring any inovation regarding Win98, but regarding Win2K.
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