You've developed a reputation on this forum for preferring that Unix stay on the server and away from the desktop. Its an opinion you are entitled to but your persistence does not make it true.
You say OS X is a step down from the Mac OS UI, others would say its a step up. Who's right? Who's wrong?
Security model: Agreed.
Speed: Won't be a problem in a year or two with faster hardware and 10.1 is already a big improvement.
Metadata: Debatable. It makes OS X more compatible with other OS's and for normal users its something that makes transferring documents easier.
Until Artificial Intelligence arrives which could anticipate and automate common tasks for everyone and adapt to each person individually, we'll have to put up with what we have. Thats Unix and NT for the forseable future.
If that were the case with Apple and OS X you would be right. Instead Apple improved on things where Unix needed improving and left things alone that didn't.
The GPL license cares about the code first and foremost, even to the detriment of the developer(s) in some situations. At all costs the code must survive and remain free.
The BSD license cares about the developers and the users, even to the detriment of the code/project in some situations. At all costs must the people developing and using the code have all options available to them.
This is also why Linux has more mindshare, marketshare and corporate interest. The god damn project (that being Linux) is able to survive and thrive because the GPL won't allow it to be taken advantage of.
Seeing as how Unix is already decades old one would think the BSD guys would have gotten this by now. Programmers come and go. The projects, if they are good enough remain. What fucking good are the personal freedoms the BSD license provide if projects run under a BSD license are so frequently subject to being taken advantage of, used and then left to be forgotten with very little contribution in return?
Is *BSD dying? Hell no. Just a temporary and annoying setback. The BSD camp COULD do with a little more self-promotion though.;)
I don't mean to be rude but its the BSD license that allows anyone or any company to run off with your code/work and do whatever the fuck they want to with it just as long as they "mention" you as the original developer, unlike the GPL which does not allow someone to just do "anything" they want with it. You know, things like taking it proprietary?
I've got a 32gig Travelstar in my Powerbook and its got bad sectors and grinding noises. I'll be replacing it soon with either a Hitachi or Fujitsu 30gig model.
Sell your stock now. This is actually the SECOND time Transmeta has changed business plans.
First they wanted to compete in the Notebook market and failed.
So then they tried to compete in the Server market and failed. (Who in their right mind would use a Crusoe in a friggin server? To save 5 degrees in temp? Gimme a break.)
Lastly they are trying to compete in the Embedded market, and will fail.
Sell your stock now, while you still can. Transmeta has no chance to survive, make your time.
The problem is that most folks don't know what OS is good for a server. So whatever is good enough for them at home is what they'll use at work. If they use Windows at home then they'll grow up to use Windows in the workplace and in their IT dept's.
For this reason and this reason alone *NIX must become successful on the desktop. Until that happens, Linux and Unix are in danger of being replaced with Windows by folks who "don't know any better" because Windows is all they've known.
Why the fuck would you not want to work at least 140 hours a week? What could you possibly be doing that is so important as to require EXTENDED (more than 10-12) hours away from your job per week? And no this isn't sarcasm or a troll. I really want to know. And it better be more than just "family, friends and a personal life"
I guess its a good thing the internet will allow students to individually tailor their courses and allow them to pay for only what they want to learn. In the long run the market will knock these pompous professors who force people to become enlightened against their will on their asses.
How do you know that some people with degrees and "well-rounded" educations cannot remain ignorant merely by the force of their own sheer will? What if they sleep thru their humanities classes and barely pass. All you'll ever see is that they have their degree. Those people move up into positions of government and law too you know. So what do you think about that, Mr. Well-Rounded?
Do you need an enlightened person to install your plumbing? No. Do you need an enlightened person to install your cable? No. Do you need an enlightened person to operate on you? No. Do you need an enlightened person to clean your clothes? No. Then why would you need an enlightened person to code your applications or setup your company network? Are you going to be having mental sex with these people or do you just need them ALL to do their jobs?
But its nice when you can get a good job so you can afford to eat and have internet access isn't it? Why can't you do that first and then become the "useless well-rounded person" that such an education would produce?
I have read the Federalist papers. I'm actually a history buff. It was my favorite subject in high school. Does that mean I should be forced to take it in college because of someone else's misguided and paternalistic sense that they know whats best for everyone?
Thats right! Cause we all know everyone who has a degree advances right to the top without delay and all those without them are never promoted and eventually are forced to admit that no one gets a brain until they go to college.
You honestly think that all the people who went to technical vocational schools are out of work now and only those with degrees kept their jobs? That those who do not have a degree are incapable of learning things on their own? Furthermore that only those who go to college have brains and those who don't, do not?
Oh yeah you're one of those "there's more to life than money" people. That of course is true, but it doesn't help when you DONT have the money to begin with. So how about people make their money FIRST and then become the useless enlightened liberal arts majors this story is talking about?
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You've developed a reputation on this forum for preferring that Unix stay on the server and away from the desktop. Its an opinion you are entitled to but your persistence does not make it true.
You say OS X is a step down from the Mac OS UI, others would say its a step up. Who's right? Who's wrong?
Security model: Agreed.
Speed: Won't be a problem in a year or two with faster hardware and 10.1 is already a big improvement.
Metadata: Debatable. It makes OS X more compatible with other OS's and for normal users its something that makes transferring documents easier.
Until Artificial Intelligence arrives which could anticipate and automate common tasks for everyone and adapt to each person individually, we'll have to put up with what we have. Thats Unix and NT for the forseable future.
If that were the case with Apple and OS X you would be right. Instead Apple improved on things where Unix needed improving and left things alone that didn't.
I think you summed it up exactly.
;)
The GPL license cares about the code first and foremost, even to the detriment of the developer(s) in some situations. At all costs the code must survive and remain free.
The BSD license cares about the developers and the users, even to the detriment of the code/project in some situations. At all costs must the people developing and using the code have all options available to them.
This is also why Linux has more mindshare, marketshare and corporate interest. The god damn project (that being Linux) is able to survive and thrive because the GPL won't allow it to be taken advantage of.
Seeing as how Unix is already decades old one would think the BSD guys would have gotten this by now. Programmers come and go. The projects, if they are good enough remain. What fucking good are the personal freedoms the BSD license provide if projects run under a BSD license are so frequently subject to being taken advantage of, used and then left to be forgotten with very little contribution in return?
Is *BSD dying? Hell no. Just a temporary and annoying setback. The BSD camp COULD do with a little more self-promotion though.
I don't mean to be rude but its the BSD license that allows anyone or any company to run off with your code/work and do whatever the fuck they want to with it just as long as they "mention" you as the original developer, unlike the GPL which does not allow someone to just do "anything" they want with it. You know, things like taking it proprietary?
I've got a 32gig Travelstar in my Powerbook and its got bad sectors and grinding noises. I'll be replacing it soon with either a Hitachi or Fujitsu 30gig model.
Sell your stock now. This is actually the SECOND time Transmeta has changed business plans.
First they wanted to compete in the Notebook market and failed.
So then they tried to compete in the Server market and failed. (Who in their right mind would use a Crusoe in a friggin server? To save 5 degrees in temp? Gimme a break.)
Lastly they are trying to compete in the Embedded market, and will fail.
Sell your stock now, while you still can. Transmeta has no chance to survive, make your time.
The problem is that most folks don't know what OS is good for a server. So whatever is good enough for them at home is what they'll use at work. If they use Windows at home then they'll grow up to use Windows in the workplace and in their IT dept's.
For this reason and this reason alone *NIX must become successful on the desktop. Until that happens, Linux and Unix are in danger of being replaced with Windows by folks who "don't know any better" because Windows is all they've known.
If they are elected by the people, who are you to remove someone elected by those excersizing their right to vote?
What if you like being narrow-minded?
Why the fuck would you not want to work at least 140 hours a week? What could you possibly be doing that is so important as to require EXTENDED (more than 10-12) hours away from your job per week? And no this isn't sarcasm or a troll. I really want to know. And it better be more than just "family, friends and a personal life"
I guess its a good thing the internet will allow students to individually tailor their courses and allow them to pay for only what they want to learn. In the long run the market will knock these pompous professors who force people to become enlightened against their will on their asses.
How do you know that some people with degrees and "well-rounded" educations cannot remain ignorant merely by the force of their own sheer will? What if they sleep thru their humanities classes and barely pass. All you'll ever see is that they have their degree. Those people move up into positions of government and law too you know. So what do you think about that, Mr. Well-Rounded?
Who made you the judge of what is a small or big pleasure, pain or fear?
Do you need an enlightened person to install your plumbing? No. Do you need an enlightened person to install your cable? No. Do you need an enlightened person to operate on you? No. Do you need an enlightened person to clean your clothes? No. Then why would you need an enlightened person to code your applications or setup your company network? Are you going to be having mental sex with these people or do you just need them ALL to do their jobs?
I get it now. You go to college to learn how to schmooze and sweet talk people into giving you any job no matter if you are qualified for it or not.
Ok got it. No one knows how to learn until they go to college. Shit. I better unlearn my ability to read then.......
But its nice when you can get a good job so you can afford to eat and have internet access isn't it? Why can't you do that first and then become the "useless well-rounded person" that such an education would produce?
Oh yeah and you're the judge of all that is worth and not worth doing in life huh?
I have read the Federalist papers. I'm actually a history buff. It was my favorite subject in high school. Does that mean I should be forced to take it in college because of someone else's misguided and paternalistic sense that they know whats best for everyone?
Thats right! Cause we all know everyone who has a degree advances right to the top without delay and all those without them are never promoted and eventually are forced to admit that no one gets a brain until they go to college.
You honestly think that all the people who went to technical vocational schools are out of work now and only those with degrees kept their jobs? That those who do not have a degree are incapable of learning things on their own? Furthermore that only those who go to college have brains and those who don't, do not?
Oh yeah you're one of those "there's more to life than money" people. That of course is true, but it doesn't help when you DONT have the money to begin with. So how about people make their money FIRST and then become the useless enlightened liberal arts majors this story is talking about?
Yet there are more insects than there are people......
What school do I go to that will teach me to be a judgemental fuck like you?
Second rate education?
Earning more money than someone with a not too usefull liberal arts degree is the result of a second rate education?
Hrmm...