good point about korean. but i guess i can not read english either since it is not uncommon for me to mispronouce something because it is an exception. As far as I can tell, korean doesn't have as many exceptions as english does.
not to give any details -- but no just because their skin is golden doesn't mean that i think they should speak chinese, it is when their parents still speak it as their dominant language and that is what i hear when i call them on the phone that i beleive that their chinese should be (and usually is) admirable.
just as a side note: i do not want to come off as "too puffed up." my humble apologies if i did so.
one last note -- i was raised in china, so I know what a chinese-american family is and a chinese-turned-american family is... (again, i do not want to sound puffed up, but i was to show that i am not naive - at least not too naive)
this may trash what little karma i have... since no one in their right mind would moderate this up, (not that i have much..) but huh? I think that whether you should learn a language is based soley on how many people speak it. I think that every person is a whirlpool of knowledge and experience and a barrier between me and slowing down that whirlpool so i can see what it has to offer is language. I want to break as many barriers as possible. I am a "white-boy." I was born in Washington D.C. I speak chinese better than most of my chinese american friends. Maybe my motivations are not what yours are, but if I can connect to 1.2 billion more people, guess what? I am gonna do whatever i can to do so.
One last note. I can read korean. I have no idea what it all means, but i can read it. Their alphabet is the most simplistic I have ever seen and it took me about two weeks to learn it. So, that leaves your list to; chinese.
two things really, really bothered me about this movie. Now, I have read the book a good few times. (I am only 16, but i have read it almost annually since I first read it when i was 10-- and could not understand all of it)
Maybe I did not get the book, but it seems to me that everyone in this whole movie was mis cased.
Paul: Spoiled? No. He was just a kid who did not yet understand "it" all, but was no halfwit. This Paul had some shining moments. The only time he really seemed in character was when the worm ate the miner and he was looking in awe. Other than that, nothing.
Jessica: IMO, she was the worst cast. No power whatsoever. She is like the dumb concubine who doesn't know anything when in fact she knew more than anyone. I think part of this was that she never talked (like in the book) to the truthsayer in any intellible manor.
Leto: Actually, I thought he had the most good moments. True he had a lot of bad times ("He almost killed my son!"). But then again, he had some times when he was a true leader. Unfortunatly he was very much like a half-wit himself. In the book, he has charisma, in this series... little, if any.
Yueh: Am I the only one who saw this guy as asian? Oh yeah, and what does "the tooth" mean to the non book reader? Nothing. No explaination. Not to mention that there was never the scene where Paul and him bond on their way to Dune. There wasn't even the scene where Paul got the orange bible!
Duncan: At least they got one person who looked like a true warrior. Everyone is chubby old men in this series! He really didn't play the part either, no real deepness in him.
Mentat: This is the absolute worse. The Mentat can take on ANYONE. At least he is supposed to. Not this actor. This Mentat couldn't fight a pig. He wasn't even wise.
I am not even going to get into the non atredies cast. harkonnen was the worst cast, Liet was probably the best, and the emporer (and his palace!) and his daughter were horrible. (Especially his daughter... she wasn't even supposed to be there!!!)
The other big problem was the cutting of the scenes. The book was amazing. It was amazing for a reason. Stick to the book! Nothing at all before they left, nothing on the trip to Dune, nothing about the Bene Gesseriet, nothing about the Mentat. Nothing about the Old Duke's death. Nothing. Why wasn't there any background?
On Dune, there was no girl trying to get Paul to sleep with her (at the party). No poison seekers. No explaination of the terrain. (Why they were in that city and why worms could not go there)
Even now, after 2 hours of this, it seems that there was much less dialogue, and very little content. The duke just died and I still don't konw why. (If i had not read the book.)
Don't get me wrong, there were some good parts, but I have got to say, I would like slashdot to get the screenwrite and director for one of those question sessions. In that way maybe he can make another movie or miniseries instead of those other shows that were announced. Get this one right so I will have something to show MY kids in fifteen years.
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good point about korean. but i guess i can not read english either since it is not uncommon for me to mispronouce something because it is an exception. As far as I can tell, korean doesn't have as many exceptions as english does.
not to give any details -- but no just because their skin is golden doesn't mean that i think they should speak chinese, it is when their parents still speak it as their dominant language and that is what i hear when i call them on the phone that i beleive that their chinese should be (and usually is) admirable.
just as a side note: i do not want to come off as "too puffed up." my humble apologies if i did so.
one last note -- i was raised in china, so I know what a chinese-american family is and a chinese-turned-american family is... (again, i do not want to sound puffed up, but i was to show that i am not naive - at least not too naive)
i don't try too hard... it is just the way i am. (i was raised in china)
:)
as for an egg... maybe..
The chinese girls are a bonus though.
this may trash what little karma i have... since no one in their right mind would moderate this up, (not that i have much..) but huh? I think that whether you should learn a language is based soley on how many people speak it. I think that every person is a whirlpool of knowledge and experience and a barrier between me and slowing down that whirlpool so i can see what it has to offer is language. I want to break as many barriers as possible. I am a "white-boy." I was born in Washington D.C. I speak chinese better than most of my chinese american friends. Maybe my motivations are not what yours are, but if I can connect to 1.2 billion more people, guess what? I am gonna do whatever i can to do so.
One last note. I can read korean. I have no idea what it all means, but i can read it. Their alphabet is the most simplistic I have ever seen and it took me about two weeks to learn it. So, that leaves your list to; chinese.
i am just curious as to how you figure Madarin is not valuable to learn...
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really guys... chmod 777 /usr/local/mozilla -R
/* where I put it */
it is not THAT bad to have a chmod'd dir for a regular system... no one is going to use mozilla to kill your system.
(Or you can install it for everyone individually)
two things really, really bothered me about this movie. Now, I have read the book a good few times. (I am only 16, but i have read it almost annually since I first read it when i was 10-- and could not understand all of it)
Maybe I did not get the book, but it seems to me that everyone in this whole movie was mis cased.
Paul: Spoiled? No. He was just a kid who did not yet understand "it" all, but was no halfwit. This Paul had some shining moments. The only time he really seemed in character was when the worm ate the miner and he was looking in awe. Other than that, nothing.
Jessica: IMO, she was the worst cast. No power whatsoever. She is like the dumb concubine who doesn't know anything when in fact she knew more than anyone. I think part of this was that she never talked (like in the book) to the truthsayer in any intellible manor.
Leto: Actually, I thought he had the most good moments. True he had a lot of bad times ("He almost killed my son!"). But then again, he had some times when he was a true leader. Unfortunatly he was very much like a half-wit himself. In the book, he has charisma, in this series... little, if any.
Yueh: Am I the only one who saw this guy as asian? Oh yeah, and what does "the tooth" mean to the non book reader? Nothing. No explaination. Not to mention that there was never the scene where Paul and him bond on their way to Dune. There wasn't even the scene where Paul got the orange bible!
Duncan: At least they got one person who looked like a true warrior. Everyone is chubby old men in this series! He really didn't play the part either, no real deepness in him.
Mentat: This is the absolute worse. The Mentat can take on ANYONE. At least he is supposed to. Not this actor. This Mentat couldn't fight a pig. He wasn't even wise.
I am not even going to get into the non atredies cast. harkonnen was the worst cast, Liet was probably the best, and the emporer (and his palace!) and his daughter were horrible. (Especially his daughter... she wasn't even supposed to be there!!!)
The other big problem was the cutting of the scenes. The book was amazing. It was amazing for a reason. Stick to the book! Nothing at all before they left, nothing on the trip to Dune, nothing about the Bene Gesseriet, nothing about the Mentat. Nothing about the Old Duke's death. Nothing. Why wasn't there any background?
On Dune, there was no girl trying to get Paul to sleep with her (at the party). No poison seekers. No explaination of the terrain. (Why they were in that city and why worms could not go there)
Even now, after 2 hours of this, it seems that there was much less dialogue, and very little content. The duke just died and I still don't konw why. (If i had not read the book.)
Don't get me wrong, there were some good parts, but I have got to say, I would like slashdot to get the screenwrite and director for one of those question sessions. In that way maybe he can make another movie or miniseries instead of those other shows that were announced. Get this one right so I will have something to show MY kids in fifteen years.