Re:sweet god in heaven.. it's MSIE
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Hey buddy.. next time you download MSIE (assuming you follow the upgrade-or-die mentality).. take a look at the minimum install. 17 megs last time i checked. (it has been a LONG time since i used windows/ie...)
Try to get (at least in linux) the netscape-installer and make a bare minimum install. what? 12MB...
the point is that with debian stable you don't HAVE to apt-get dist-upgrade. it will work. just work. you only do dist-upgrade if you want security patches. (for the most part. every once and a while a game or something will fix a bug.)
for this since May. I really need to learn SDL (well 'really need' meaning really want to) for my amateur game development. there is just not enough documentation online as to how to use SDL. even allegro - a highly deficient SDL-like game SDK - has tutorials up the wazzo. i couldn't (at the time) find a single one for SDL! so, i figured i should wait for THE book by THE SDL and linux game people. i can't wait to pick it up!
I have yet to see a LTSP article here on slashdot. The K12LTSP story was okay but it was not phrased in such as way that people would flock to help ltsp development. the only reason i went to irc.openprojects.net #ltsp was because i saw it in Linux Journal and went to the website (www.ltsp.org).
now i do not disagree with you, but i could have sworn the mission in wolf3d at least was to kill hitler. (though i admit that the realization that yo are supposed to hate hitler doesn't seem to make it to some.... but still. )
this gets tricky. i would like to say i trust people to make judgements about this. but i don't. i don't blame the games, i blame the fact that in suburbia there are (many) people who lives their lives in these games, so killing people (though they may not do it themselves) becomes inconsequencial. It is sad, but then again so is the restriction of free speech (in the games.) anyone have an answer to the problem?
I am sorry, but nothing kept me up longer than this game. Well, Dune2, but nothing else. If i were to call Wolf3d second to anything it would be Halflife, and even that is pushing it (for halflife.) this game was great. once you push limits the first time nothing following you will ever come close. too bad they aren't going to be creating a genre with this one. I will still buy it though - as long as there is a linux port. I support anything with a linux port if I think it will help linux. (No, caldera windows doesn't count). Go ID go. just don't forget us linuxites!
I actually like skipstone, true. it is pretty much featureless, but it is PERFECT for just surfting. especially since I have all my home PCs running off of one LTSP server. -Hey, you try to have a computer for everyone in your house at less than 200 per machine running at 1Ghz!
Anyway, take a peek at skipstone
apt-get install skipstone
oh wait? you don't run debian? why?
(BTW, skipstone requires gcc-3.0-base for whatever reason. which is okay, since i am trying to move to gcc-3.0's C++ ABI) -- it doesn't brake anything, don't worry
Personally, i try to use mozilla or galeon
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Many people -windows and linux users- refuse to use netscape, mozilla, or galeon because it is not as nice as IE or konq. I try my very best to use it for exactly that reason. For the IE users I tell them that if they don't use mozilla/galeon then there will never be an answer to microsofts monopoly. Many don't agree with the use-inferior-opensource-software(not that galeon is inferior at this point)-just so that it will get better, but i hold to it. If people stop downloading mozilla then AOL has less of a reason to include it in their browser suite. so, sure - use konq but remember that it is only a linux browser, and (likely) always will be. if you want to support opensource then at least download mozilla and watch AOLinux come around and shoot linux into the 20+ million users hands that are MS zombies now. tomorrow they could be Linux zombies!
you are quite stupid if i can say so. they
a) didn't steal shit from los alamos... that was just an act of racism and bigotry - as is the american tradition
b)developed the atomic bomb in the 50s.
I don't know about 4.1.0 or anything before 4.0.3, but at least in 4.0.3 there was a great "vesa" driver for all those obscure cards. like the SVGA driver of 3.3.x. works for just about everything. Though keep in mind there is NO acceleration (2d or 3d)... it doesn't matter to me (actually my parents are the one with the vesa driver), but it may to some. keep trying.
I started used the nightlies after 0.9 came out immediatly because of a bug that caused images to be messed up on 0.9 because the page was not redered properly. I don't know the specifics but I know it was something about how after the bug was fixed the pages loaded 12% faster because they were managing images better (and maybe they had been redundantly rendering them.) But since then I have enjoyed every nightly CVS build. (I built my own tar.gz from CVS for the fun of it) Congratulations to all. Now could someone please reply to this and tell me how to get java working in mozilla 0.9.1 (i can only seem to get it to work once in a while from that netscape download Java for linux link)
go to linuxtoday.com and get the changelog. it has a list of all the new features and drivers. enjoy.
Re:I LIKE these updates, so there.
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for all the people yelling about how they can't find out what has been included in this release. actually, not just bux fixes! (i can use my savage in XF4.x now!0
I would like everyone to know that, however cool it is that the PowerDesk tool is GPL'd, the drivers are still only partially GPL'd. Some of the basic functions of the drivers are GPL'd, but most of the advanced functions are not. You can, i hear, not compile the advanced features in and be using all GPL'd drivers, but I may have heard wrong.
I know what it says in the FAQ, but the statement that it may be ported is not enough for me and I figured that the best people to email and ask for this would be the developers. I figure that because, at least in the linux world, the developers develop the software.:)
(Note: just making my point clear, do not take this as an attack)
Some may want monthly updates, but hey, i run apt-get dist-upgrade nightly! that is how i want it. then again, debian unstable gets changed a little faster than Mac OSX, but why not just make a nice Macy (mac like) updater that people can run when they want and download whatever has been updated during that time, like apt-get.
But I download the source from CVS everynight and build this myself (email me if you would like to get instructions on building it in Linux -- especially if you are having trouble with PSM) and i must say that at least the ones i download and build are amazingly quick. No, I am not saying that they are netscape quick, but apparently since.9 branched there has been one bug (can't remember the #) that was causing a paint problem in rendering and allowed Mozilla , once fixed, to render up to 20% faster. I never measured how much faster it got, but it was noticeable.
Load time is faster. 3 seconds for me -- and that is acceptable. Stability is a little iffy on some of my own builds, but that is what you do for getting CVS builds. I have not used 0.9 but unless they REALLY receded the code for stabiliy, I can't imagine that this would not be as acceptable as my CVS builds.
I must say that it is no good that one must build from CVS to really get Mozilla going well, but I like the power to get rid of mailnews, debug, and tests. No crud, much love.:)
Anyway, just my.02 -- and one must note: PSM is much better than the last milestone i used (whatever that was. 0.8.1 i think) now i can click my hotmail "select me" buttons and not have to wait a few seconds for the check to come up. maybe that has nothing to do with PSM, but i figured that since hotmail is a "secure" site, and if i didn't get PSM i could not get in, it was because of that. Shows what i know. But even if it isn't PSM, at least that is useable now.
China is already in that list. The Great Wall sound familiar. Guess what. It is in China.
Also, the Three Gorges Dam is a wonder. 1.2 billion people. You try to feed them. America couldn't. A powerful government is needed to do it. Not to start a political fight, but FDR was a leftist president. Leftism is needed to give a job to everyone, including when there is no job to give them.
Oh yeah, also, you may have seen some obscure photos, but I grew up in China and I never saw such things as power lines over trees. At least not in a non-contruction site. Take a trip to Shanghi, come back, and reply.
I may be pro-china but I think it must be noted that the Chinese have been able to create some of the worlds greatest creations. One they are still working on (and i wish america would stop lambasting them for) is keeping a country with 1.2 billion people to feed one of the most powerful in the world. I hope they do this. The Chinese people need something to make themselves feel superior a bit. It helps 1.2 billion people keep going. American's have always had all the cool things to be proud of (In the past 200 years at least.)
That and another point is that this must be a local decision. Beijing and Shanghai have a rivalry like no other city i have ever been to before. I am on the Beijing-is-the-most-21st Century side, but i would still like to see Shanghai build this. It will be hard to pay for if it is just Shanghai though, maybe the Beijing government will chip in since this will make China as a whole look amazing, even if Shanghai has to get a good deal of the domestic credit.
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Hey buddy.. next time you download MSIE (assuming you follow the upgrade-or-die mentality).. take a look at the minimum install. 17 megs last time i checked. (it has been a LONG time since i used windows/ie...)
Try to get (at least in linux) the netscape-installer and make a bare minimum install. what? 12MB...
the point is that with debian stable you don't HAVE to apt-get dist-upgrade. it will work. just work. you only do dist-upgrade if you want security patches. (for the most part. every once and a while a game or something will fix a bug.)
for this since May. I really need to learn SDL (well 'really need' meaning really want to) for my amateur game development. there is just not enough documentation online as to how to use SDL. even allegro - a highly deficient SDL-like game SDK - has tutorials up the wazzo. i couldn't (at the time) find a single one for SDL! so, i figured i should wait for THE book by THE SDL and linux game people. i can't wait to pick it up!
5-10 min to load your PPT. 1 minute (a doable time) to load star writer which is probably all these are doing
I have yet to see a LTSP article here on slashdot. The K12LTSP story was okay but it was not phrased in such as way that people would flock to help ltsp development. the only reason i went to irc.openprojects.net #ltsp was because i saw it in Linux Journal and went to the website (www.ltsp.org).
now i do not disagree with you, but i could have sworn the mission in wolf3d at least was to kill hitler. (though i admit that the realization that yo are supposed to hate hitler doesn't seem to make it to some.... but still. )
this gets tricky. i would like to say i trust people to make judgements about this. but i don't. i don't blame the games, i blame the fact that in suburbia there are (many) people who lives their lives in these games, so killing people (though they may not do it themselves) becomes inconsequencial. It is sad, but then again so is the restriction of free speech (in the games.) anyone have an answer to the problem?
I am sorry, but nothing kept me up longer than this game. Well, Dune2, but nothing else. If i were to call Wolf3d second to anything it would be Halflife, and even that is pushing it (for halflife.) this game was great. once you push limits the first time nothing following you will ever come close. too bad they aren't going to be creating a genre with this one. I will still buy it though - as long as there is a linux port. I support anything with a linux port if I think it will help linux. (No, caldera windows doesn't count). Go ID go. just don't forget us linuxites!
I actually like skipstone, true. it is pretty much featureless, but it is PERFECT for just surfting. especially since I have all my home PCs running off of one LTSP server. -Hey, you try to have a computer for everyone in your house at less than 200 per machine running at 1Ghz!
Anyway, take a peek at skipstone
apt-get install skipstone
oh wait? you don't run debian? why?
(BTW, skipstone requires gcc-3.0-base for whatever reason. which is okay, since i am trying to move to gcc-3.0's C++ ABI) -- it doesn't brake anything, don't worry
Many people -windows and linux users- refuse to use netscape, mozilla, or galeon because it is not as nice as IE or konq. I try my very best to use it for exactly that reason. For the IE users I tell them that if they don't use mozilla/galeon then there will never be an answer to microsofts monopoly. Many don't agree with the use-inferior-opensource-software(not that galeon is inferior at this point)-just so that it will get better, but i hold to it. If people stop downloading mozilla then AOL has less of a reason to include it in their browser suite. so, sure - use konq but remember that it is only a linux browser, and (likely) always will be. if you want to support opensource then at least download mozilla and watch AOLinux come around and shoot linux into the 20+ million users hands that are MS zombies now. tomorrow they could be Linux zombies!
you are quite stupid if i can say so. they
a) didn't steal shit from los alamos... that was just an act of racism and bigotry - as is the american tradition
b)developed the atomic bomb in the 50s.
you are amazingly ignorant. China has had the atomic bomb since the late 50s. and that shit at los alamos... that is just american racism and bigotry.
I don't know about 4.1.0 or anything before 4.0.3, but at least in 4.0.3 there was a great "vesa" driver for all those obscure cards. like the SVGA driver of 3.3.x. works for just about everything. Though keep in mind there is NO acceleration (2d or 3d)... it doesn't matter to me (actually my parents are the one with the vesa driver), but it may to some. keep trying.
just so you know, china developed it's own atomic bomb, they were not sold to them by GE or any other company. Just thought you should know...
I started used the nightlies after 0.9 came out immediatly because of a bug that caused images to be messed up on 0.9 because the page was not redered properly. I don't know the specifics but I know it was something about how after the bug was fixed the pages loaded 12% faster because they were managing images better (and maybe they had been redundantly rendering them.) But since then I have enjoyed every nightly CVS build. (I built my own tar.gz from CVS for the fun of it) Congratulations to all. Now could someone please reply to this and tell me how to get java working in mozilla 0.9.1 (i can only seem to get it to work once in a while from that netscape download Java for linux link)
thanks
go to linuxtoday.com and get the changelog. it has a list of all the new features and drivers. enjoy.
for all the people yelling about how they can't find out what has been included in this release. actually, not just bux fixes! (i can use my savage in XF4.x now!0
- 06 -03-010-20-NW-SW
http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001
I would like everyone to know that, however cool it is that the PowerDesk tool is GPL'd, the drivers are still only partially GPL'd. Some of the basic functions of the drivers are GPL'd, but most of the advanced functions are not. You can, i hear, not compile the advanced features in and be using all GPL'd drivers, but I may have heard wrong.
just my 2 bits...
I know what it says in the FAQ, but the statement that it may be ported is not enough for me and I figured that the best people to email and ask for this would be the developers. I figure that because, at least in the linux world, the developers develop the software. :)
(Note: just making my point clear, do not take this as an attack)
I say that all the /.'s should go to www.firaxis.com/civ3/ and click on the "Ask the Civ Team" link and send an email to
askthecivteam@firaxis.com
and ask them to dual release Civ III on windows and linux.
It is about time to bring Civilization to the Linux World.
Some may want monthly updates, but hey, i run apt-get dist-upgrade nightly! that is how i want it. then again, debian unstable gets changed a little faster than Mac OSX, but why not just make a nice Macy (mac like) updater that people can run when they want and download whatever has been updated during that time, like apt-get.
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Just my
But I download the source from CVS everynight and build this myself (email me if you would like to get instructions on building it in Linux -- especially if you are having trouble with PSM) and i must say that at least the ones i download and build are amazingly quick. No, I am not saying that they are netscape quick, but apparently since .9 branched there has been one bug (can't remember the #) that was causing a paint problem in rendering and allowed Mozilla , once fixed, to render up to 20% faster. I never measured how much faster it got, but it was noticeable.
:)
.02 -- and one must note: PSM is much better than the last milestone i used (whatever that was. 0.8.1 i think) now i can click my hotmail "select me" buttons and not have to wait a few seconds for the check to come up. maybe that has nothing to do with PSM, but i figured that since hotmail is a "secure" site, and if i didn't get PSM i could not get in, it was because of that. Shows what i know. But even if it isn't PSM, at least that is useable now.
Load time is faster. 3 seconds for me -- and that is acceptable. Stability is a little iffy on some of my own builds, but that is what you do for getting CVS builds. I have not used 0.9 but unless they REALLY receded the code for stabiliy, I can't imagine that this would not be as acceptable as my CVS builds.
I must say that it is no good that one must build from CVS to really get Mozilla going well, but I like the power to get rid of mailnews, debug, and tests. No crud, much love.
Anyway, just my
China is already in that list. The Great Wall sound familiar. Guess what. It is in China.
Also, the Three Gorges Dam is a wonder. 1.2 billion people. You try to feed them. America couldn't. A powerful government is needed to do it. Not to start a political fight, but FDR was a leftist president. Leftism is needed to give a job to everyone, including when there is no job to give them.
Oh yeah, also, you may have seen some obscure photos, but I grew up in China and I never saw such things as power lines over trees. At least not in a non-contruction site. Take a trip to Shanghi, come back, and reply.
I may be pro-china but I think it must be noted that the Chinese have been able to create some of the worlds greatest creations. One they are still working on (and i wish america would stop lambasting them for) is keeping a country with 1.2 billion people to feed one of the most powerful in the world. I hope they do this. The Chinese people need something to make themselves feel superior a bit. It helps 1.2 billion people keep going. American's have always had all the cool things to be proud of (In the past 200 years at least.)
That and another point is that this must be a local decision. Beijing and Shanghai have a rivalry like no other city i have ever been to before. I am on the Beijing-is-the-most-21st Century side, but i would still like to see Shanghai build this. It will be hard to pay for if it is just Shanghai though, maybe the Beijing government will chip in since this will make China as a whole look amazing, even if Shanghai has to get a good deal of the domestic credit.
most of it comes from Ximian, true. But also remember Ximian is just gnome hackers organized. (Same people, same goals, same products.)
nice try... that is the link from the discussion header...
no easy karma stealin' today...