I don't know why you had to use JNI? I did something like this the other day... All you need is java.io.File. Have fun!
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I understand what you are saying about price wars and healthy competition. However, I think the merger would be the "best case scenario." Otherwise, Eazel is likely to go under. *If* they could stay afloat long enough to make a profit and *if* the market was large enough to support this competition, then that is the way to go. But the market, as it stands, is not large enough and I don't see Ximian choosing Eazel's software service in their Gnome distribution. A combined company would avert the threat of divergences in Gnome and lead to better integration.
I spoke with Maciej? from Eazel at the recent linuxworld expo in New York. I asked him about Eazel's plans for KDE... He responded that there were a lot of interesting conversations going on between Ximian, Eazel and some of the KDE community about implementing bonobo. The conversation was not very specific, but the overall tone was that KDE was within Eazel and Ximian's radar. Perhaps more cooperation between the KDE and Gnome communities will be possible within this corporate framework?
I am impressed. They seem to be listening to the Gnome community. Their list of feedback and suggestions actually reflected the criticism and feedback they received on Gnotices. I look forward to their next release, but in the meantime I will not be using Nautilus. I doubt they will remain in business long enough to make a profit, but I wish them all the best. IMHO, the best case scenario at this point would be an Eazel/Ximian merge. They each have qualities and philosophies that benefit the Gnome community and a merger would end the duplication of efforts. Either way, Red-Carpet is the superior software delivery tool and Eazel should just abandon this avenue to Ximian.
I'll save you some time then, galeon is dependent on the gnome libs not just GTK. If you get a chance, check out gnome and galeon, not to mention Red Carpet and evolution.
If you run Gnome, you really shoud check out Galeon. It embeds the mozilla gecko engine, _but_ the rest is full on gnome. http://galeon.sourceforge.net/info.html
Check out this for configuration: http://ximian.org/desktop/setuptools.php3
Check out this for updates: http://ximian.org/apps/redcarpet.php3
Both are beta projects, but I would say they are both very promising. Combine these with Eazel's Nautilus and the upcoming OpenOffice, Mozilla, Galeon, KDE2 and Gnome1.4 and Linux will be in great shape. The future is bright!
The important thing to remember and what a lot of creationists/people of faith don't realize is: IT'S FAITH ALL THE WAY DOWN!
There will be no time when you don't have to have faith. Even if you go to heaven and God decides to let you in on all of his secrets and explains things to you through some sort of mind meld, YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE FAITH that he/she is telling the truth!
Furthermore, why is that everyone believes we will even die someday or that we were ever born... i mean does anyone actually remember there own birth... all the evidence of that birth _*could*_ (i'm not saying that it was or even that we should believe that and still be mentally healthy) have been planted.
The point is, it's faith all the way down. Just like the turtles.
I would not say that i just accepted this. I was proud of my F and I still am. It stands as a reminder to me that just because you can jump through hoops, that means nothing in and of itself. Before this happened, I really looked up to this teacher, since then I have had a hard time trusting or accepting anything a teacher said. After this experience I no longer cared what kind of grades I recieved and probably had an unhealthy lack of respect for authority. In retrospect I am quite shocked that this ever happened because the class was an advanced placement class and the teacher was brought in specifically for this class. Makes you wonder how many times this kind of thing happens huh...
When I was in the seventh grade, my teacher asked us to do a persuasive paper on Flag-burning and the constitution. She told us that her husband had been in vietnam and that she was very passionate about the flag so if any of us wrote a paper that upheld flag burning as free expression, we would be given an F. I thought she was challenging us, so I wrote just such a paper. I recieved an F. The horrible thing was that not only was she interested in censoring flag burning, she was wished to censor those who disagreed. Censorship in schools is common. This little girl is by no means alone. What a terrible lesson to teach children.
Ha hah hahhh... you can't get mozilla to work for ya? i've been using it for months now and no problems. it is fast, stable, and i love the cookie manager. too bad for you guys, guess you'll have to stick with netscape4.X or IE and a buttload of cookies. sucks to be you.
Come on, as long as people want to play great games and making great games is difficult or possible only for a talented few.... then those talented few will be paid to produce great games!!!
People who can not understand this very basic idea should not be programmers, how about flipping burgers or something. Where is the percieved mental leap needed here. Just think about it for a wee tiny instant before you go off spouting such claims.
Perhaps the game console manufacturers need to sell there game consoles. Perhaps said manufacturers need great games to lure people to buy said game console. Perhaps said manufacturers pay talented programmers to write great games to lure the people to buy game consoles.
Oh no you say! The games are released as open source! Competitors might be able to play game on competitive console!
Then perhaps said manufacturers need to innovate and produce a better console. Ahhhh then the people will be lured to buy the game console, which will provide the revenue to support the programmer who wrote the great game.
Point being that as long as people want/need software and software costs time/money to develop (the key word being develop) then there will always be a business with a correct business model to make money off of this.
Bitching and moaning aside, companies will be forced to innovate and compete. Microsoft just does not like this because it will not be as easy for them and there are no sure things. Tuff. The people will benefit.
No, because if they did that they would have to rewrite a major portion of there network code that they took from BSD.
What they have said, is that the government should not encourage it.
In fact they want the government to discourage it.
And this is more fair.
Let me explain:
Please do...
The ultimate goal of Open Source is free software.
Now this means that you don't pay anything for it.
Bullshit. If you knew anything about Open Source you would have heard of "free speech, not free beer"
If this happens, there is no money to pay programmers. As a result, intelligent people such as myself, who could command 6 figure salaries in any profession will take different career paths.
Bullshit. Redhat pays there programmers. Last I heard, IBM pays there programmers. I think Apple pays there programmers... Cygnus Solutions pays there programmers. And by all means, go ahead and take another career path.
With fewer programmers, the result will be less innovation and worse software.
See above. There will be plenty of programmers as long as the world needs software. Your argument is pure crap.
Furthermore, universities, etc. won't be able to afford to run computing courses, since, as is the stated aim of many OS people, MS will be dead - and MS funds a lot of universities.
HAH HAH HA!!! Computers Science has been taught in universities long before Microsoft, and if Microsoft went bankrupt tomorrow and all employees were fired, Computer Science and the software industry would be just fine... As long as people want computers and software someone will make them.
Furthermore, the evidence is that open source does not tend to produce new innovation. For example, desktops such as KDE are based on older products from Apple and MS. When open source is the only thing remaining, innovation will obviously be reduced.
You can't be serious. KDE is based on older products from Apple and MS which were based on older products from MIT and xerox. This is just laughable. Once again, if Open Source software is of know use then kindly replace the Open Source code from BSD in windows.
Finally, the fact is that nothing is truly free, and nothing costs money.
If you mean "nothing" as in "windows" then yes it costs money. Are you trying to make some kind of feable philosophical statement here? Please.
Let me talk about the economy. You would agree that in the past few years, it's been doing great.
I agree.
Furthermore, if you ask an economist to tell you why, they will tell you it's due to IT growth.
Many will tell you that.
Industry produces wealth - they produce the fact that California is the 6-th wealthiest nation worth, and they help the economy.
OK
Killing this industry will not make everything free, but will rather damage the economy.
I agree so don't kill Open Source software. It is the backbone of the internet.
Without the growth from *purchases* (which business can afford), the economy will not do as well.
Once again you have missed the point. Open Source is not about "free as in beer" it's about "free as in speech". And quite frankly, if people want to give away something that they made with there own hard work, then that is there right.
Perhaps Microsoft should purge there codebase of all the networking code they have taken from BSD before they make such statements.
You know there is real fear up in Redmond when Microsoft is going to the government (HELLO! Antitrust Investigations left and right) for help... ha hah ha
They can't compete on the technical merits so they want to try and legislate there competitors away!
This obviously implies that he did not have any problem with derived works using SSH or Secure Shell in there name as long as they were compatible with his protocal. And remember this was licensed and made before he had ever attempted to trademark 'SSH' or 'Secure Shell'!
OpenSSH stays.
Section 508 compliance for "Web-based Intranet and Internet Information and Applications
" is retroactive and does not fall under the enforcement of procured items. You are right that Section 508 does not require retroactive enforcement of procured software such as operating systems, etc, etc. But, from the summary:
"However, even though section 508's enforcement mechanisms apply only to procurement, the law does require access to technology developed, used or maintained by a Federal
agency."
I will try and find the document but I have seen a document which specifies that the twenty most visited pages on every federal website must be compliant six months after the final standards were published.
This is absolutely wrong! I develop one of the website's for the DoD and this is just not correct. Section 508 compliance *IS* retroactive... You can check DefenseLINK for all of the regulations.
according to the article, Symantec feels these patents cover *any* incremental patches to software.
quote from the article:
"Symantec is not only attempting to apply the patents to the antivirus industry but also to the software industry as a whole. In its statement Wednesday, the company noted that "the technology may be used to update general computer readable files, which may include data files, program files, database files, graphics files, or audio files." "
it will be interesting to see how this absurd patent contention plays out.
The poster was hanging up on the linuxcare booth. They had a spliced together version which was put together from a bunch of standard letter size printouts. They also had a glossy poster version but the print quality was not as detailed as the spliced version. The tech told me they had tried to print it off a computer with a quarter gig of ram and the thing just choked... This was one of the *coolest* things I saw from the expo and I am absolutely going to pick one up. I wonder if thinkgeek.com is going to put one out?
This gets better and better! So Microsoft has outsourced it's content delivery to a company that runs linux servers, not just the DNS servers? These servers are then running Apache and not IIs? And then after all of this they are saying that Linux will fail and is not ready for the enterprise? That is funny!
Since they are up in arms over Amazon i can't wait till they hear about Powells. Powells began as a new&used bookstore in portland OR and now they are one of the most successfull online bookstores. They continue to sell used books and i for one am glad. It is my understanding that the majority of used books Amazon sells actually come from Powells, which is the largest bookstore in the world.
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I don't know why you had to use JNI? I did something like this the other day... All you need is java.io.File. Have fun!
I understand what you are saying about price wars and healthy competition. However, I think the merger would be the "best case scenario." Otherwise, Eazel is likely to go under. *If* they could stay afloat long enough to make a profit and *if* the market was large enough to support this competition, then that is the way to go. But the market, as it stands, is not large enough and I don't see Ximian choosing Eazel's software service in their Gnome distribution. A combined company would avert the threat of divergences in Gnome and lead to better integration.
I spoke with Maciej? from Eazel at the recent linuxworld expo in New York. I asked him about Eazel's plans for KDE... He responded that there were a lot of interesting conversations going on between Ximian, Eazel and some of the KDE community about implementing bonobo. The conversation was not very specific, but the overall tone was that KDE was within Eazel and Ximian's radar. Perhaps more cooperation between the KDE and Gnome communities will be possible within this corporate framework?
I am impressed. They seem to be listening to the Gnome community. Their list of feedback and suggestions actually reflected the criticism and feedback they received on Gnotices. I look forward to their next release, but in the meantime I will not be using Nautilus. I doubt they will remain in business long enough to make a profit, but I wish them all the best. IMHO, the best case scenario at this point would be an Eazel/Ximian merge. They each have qualities and philosophies that benefit the Gnome community and a merger would end the duplication of efforts. Either way, Red-Carpet is the superior software delivery tool and Eazel should just abandon this avenue to Ximian.
I'll save you some time then, galeon is dependent on the gnome libs not just GTK. If you get a chance, check out gnome and galeon, not to mention Red Carpet and evolution.
If you run Gnome, you really shoud check out Galeon. It embeds the mozilla gecko engine, _but_ the rest is full on gnome.
http://galeon.sourceforge.net/info.html
Check out this for configuration: http://ximian.org/desktop/setuptools.php3
Check out this for updates: http://ximian.org/apps/redcarpet.php3
Both are beta projects, but I would say they are both very promising. Combine these with Eazel's Nautilus and the upcoming OpenOffice, Mozilla, Galeon, KDE2 and Gnome1.4 and Linux will be in great shape. The future is bright!
FYI
It was Ernest Rutherford who said "the only real science is physics, the rest are stamp collecting".
"This just backs up what I've always been saying -- games have nothing to do at all with graphics."
Based upon that quote I think it is pretty evident that Nintendo will be follow Sega in the great industry shake-out he is talking about.
The important thing to remember and what a lot of creationists/people of faith don't realize is: IT'S FAITH ALL THE WAY DOWN! There will be no time when you don't have to have faith. Even if you go to heaven and God decides to let you in on all of his secrets and explains things to you through some sort of mind meld, YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE FAITH that he/she is telling the truth! Furthermore, why is that everyone believes we will even die someday or that we were ever born... i mean does anyone actually remember there own birth... all the evidence of that birth _*could*_ (i'm not saying that it was or even that we should believe that and still be mentally healthy) have been planted. The point is, it's faith all the way down. Just like the turtles.
I would not say that i just accepted this. I was proud of my F and I still am. It stands as a reminder to me that just because you can jump through hoops, that means nothing in and of itself. Before this happened, I really looked up to this teacher, since then I have had a hard time trusting or accepting anything a teacher said. After this experience I no longer cared what kind of grades I recieved and probably had an unhealthy lack of respect for authority. In retrospect I am quite shocked that this ever happened because the class was an advanced placement class and the teacher was brought in specifically for this class. Makes you wonder how many times this kind of thing happens huh...
When I was in the seventh grade, my teacher asked us to do a persuasive paper on Flag-burning and the constitution. She told us that her husband had been in vietnam and that she was very passionate about the flag so if any of us wrote a paper that upheld flag burning as free expression, we would be given an F. I thought she was challenging us, so I wrote just such a paper. I recieved an F. The horrible thing was that not only was she interested in censoring flag burning, she was wished to censor those who disagreed. Censorship in schools is common. This little girl is by no means alone. What a terrible lesson to teach children.
Ha hah hahhh... you can't get mozilla to work for ya? i've been using it for months now and no problems. it is fast, stable, and i love the cookie manager. too bad for you guys, guess you'll have to stick with netscape4.X or IE and a buttload of cookies. sucks to be you.
Come on, as long as people want to play great games and making great games is difficult or possible only for a talented few.... then those talented few will be paid to produce great games!!!
People who can not understand this very basic idea should not be programmers, how about flipping burgers or something. Where is the percieved mental leap needed here. Just think about it for a wee tiny instant before you go off spouting such claims. Perhaps the game console manufacturers need to sell there game consoles. Perhaps said manufacturers need great games to lure people to buy said game console. Perhaps said manufacturers pay talented programmers to write great games to lure the people to buy game consoles.
Oh no you say! The games are released as open source! Competitors might be able to play game on competitive console!
Then perhaps said manufacturers need to innovate and produce a better console. Ahhhh then the people will be lured to buy the game console, which will provide the revenue to support the programmer who wrote the great game.
Point being that as long as people want/need software and software costs time/money to develop (the key word being develop) then there will always be a business with a correct business model to make money off of this.
Bitching and moaning aside, companies will be forced to innovate and compete. Microsoft just does not like this because it will not be as easy for them and there are no sure things. Tuff. The people will benefit.
MS do not want to outlaw Open Source.
No, because if they did that they would have to rewrite a major portion of there network code that they took from BSD.
What they have said, is that the government should not encourage it.
In fact they want the government to discourage it.
And this is more fair. Let me explain:
Please do...
The ultimate goal of Open Source is free software. Now this means that you don't pay anything for it.
Bullshit. If you knew anything about Open Source you would have heard of "free speech, not free beer"
If this happens, there is no money to pay programmers. As a result, intelligent people such as myself, who could command 6 figure salaries in any profession will take different career paths.
Bullshit. Redhat pays there programmers. Last I heard, IBM pays there programmers. I think Apple pays there programmers... Cygnus Solutions pays there programmers. And by all means, go ahead and take another career path.
With fewer programmers, the result will be less innovation and worse software.
See above. There will be plenty of programmers as long as the world needs software. Your argument is pure crap.
Furthermore, universities, etc. won't be able to afford to run computing courses, since, as is the stated aim of many OS people, MS will be dead - and MS funds a lot of universities.
HAH HAH HA!!! Computers Science has been taught in universities long before Microsoft, and if Microsoft went bankrupt tomorrow and all employees were fired, Computer Science and the software industry would be just fine... As long as people want computers and software someone will make them.
Furthermore, the evidence is that open source does not tend to produce new innovation. For example, desktops such as KDE are based on older products from Apple and MS. When open source is the only thing remaining, innovation will obviously be reduced.
You can't be serious. KDE is based on older products from Apple and MS which were based on older products from MIT and xerox. This is just laughable. Once again, if Open Source software is of know use then kindly replace the Open Source code from BSD in windows.
Finally, the fact is that nothing is truly free, and nothing costs money.
If you mean "nothing" as in "windows" then yes it costs money. Are you trying to make some kind of feable philosophical statement here? Please.
Let me talk about the economy. You would agree that in the past few years, it's been doing great.
I agree.
Furthermore, if you ask an economist to tell you why, they will tell you it's due to IT growth.
Many will tell you that.
Industry produces wealth - they produce the fact that California is the 6-th wealthiest nation worth, and they help the economy.
OK
Killing this industry will not make everything free, but will rather damage the economy.
I agree so don't kill Open Source software. It is the backbone of the internet.
Without the growth from *purchases* (which business can afford), the economy will not do as well.
Once again you have missed the point. Open Source is not about "free as in beer" it's about "free as in speech". And quite frankly, if people want to give away something that they made with there own hard work, then that is there right.
do they use it!!!
Perhaps Microsoft should purge there codebase of all the networking code they have taken from BSD before they make such statements.
You know there is real fear up in Redmond when Microsoft is going to the government (HELLO! Antitrust Investigations left and right) for help... ha hah ha
They can't compete on the technical merits so they want to try and legislate there competitors away!
This obviously implies that he did not have any problem with derived works using SSH or Secure Shell in there name as long as they were compatible with his protocal. And remember this was licensed and made before he had ever attempted to trademark 'SSH' or 'Secure Shell'! OpenSSH stays.
because, "...unless acted upon by an outside force." There is a lot of that pesky gravitational force lying around out there ;)
Section 508 compliance for "Web-based Intranet and Internet Information and Applications " is retroactive and does not fall under the enforcement of procured items. You are right that Section 508 does not require retroactive enforcement of procured software such as operating systems, etc, etc. But, from the summary:
"However, even though section 508's enforcement mechanisms apply only to procurement, the law does require access to technology developed, used or maintained by a Federal agency."
I will try and find the document but I have seen a document which specifies that the twenty most visited pages on every federal website must be compliant six months after the final standards were published.
This is absolutely wrong! I develop one of the website's for the DoD and this is just not correct. Section 508 compliance *IS* retroactive... You can check DefenseLINK for all of the regulations.
according to the article, Symantec feels these patents cover *any* incremental patches to software. quote from the article: "Symantec is not only attempting to apply the patents to the antivirus industry but also to the software industry as a whole. In its statement Wednesday, the company noted that "the technology may be used to update general computer readable files, which may include data files, program files, database files, graphics files, or audio files." " it will be interesting to see how this absurd patent contention plays out.
The poster was hanging up on the linuxcare booth. They had a spliced together version which was put together from a bunch of standard letter size printouts. They also had a glossy poster version but the print quality was not as detailed as the spliced version. The tech told me they had tried to print it off a computer with a quarter gig of ram and the thing just choked... This was one of the *coolest* things I saw from the expo and I am absolutely going to pick one up. I wonder if thinkgeek.com is going to put one out?
By the way could you please provide URL's to the "numerous news articles this week" that explain all this?
This gets better and better! So Microsoft has outsourced it's content delivery to a company that runs linux servers, not just the DNS servers? These servers are then running Apache and not IIs? And then after all of this they are saying that Linux will fail and is not ready for the enterprise? That is funny!
Since they are up in arms over Amazon i can't wait till they hear about Powells. Powells began as a new&used bookstore in portland OR and now they are one of the most successfull online bookstores. They continue to sell used books and i for one am glad. It is my understanding that the majority of used books Amazon sells actually come from Powells, which is the largest bookstore in the world.