When you buy in huge quantities, you can get really sweet deals. Cogent can be had for $10/Mbps, $30/Mbps if you're reselling (ISP / hosting). Granted, Cogent's "cheap" bandwidth, but a lot of reputable places can be had for $50/Mbps or so if you're buying huge quantities.
Not that I at _all_ support the practice of spyware 'phoning home,' but (even ignoring what the DMCA could be use for) an evil corporation could probably get somewhere by arguing that this was (wire) fraud. I'd be careful about it.
Sorry if my post came across as critical; it certainly wasn't intended to.
I guess NYC is a bit different from rural NH, but out here you'll hear the dispatch to the house, where you can get the name and why they called 911. Then when they're in the ambulance calling the hospital, you get more detailed information. And I swear I've heard full names once or twice on ambulance-hospital, though I don't listen often enough to know how routine it is.
(It might just be clueless people out here, though. The local police department uses APCO 25 digital voice for their 'top secret' communications, as an alternative to secure landline calls. They don't seem to understand that simply digitizing (not encrypting) it isn't good security. There are off-the-shelf scanners that'll decode it.)
I guess I'd have to take my privacy concerns up locally then.:) (Although really it's not a _massive_ deal, I have to admit.) Thanks for your response.
I had a (semi-insane, IMHO) English teacher once who constantly told us that language was an organism. Although he could be really 'out there' sometimes (there was a piece of toast stapled to his bulletin board for at least a month, and he steadfastly refused to talk about it)... He really did have a point. Words like "doh" (Homer Simpson's "DOH!") have made it into the OED as 'real.' In fact "slashdotted" is a rather good example. It's not a legitimate word -- you won't find it in any dictionary. But language has kind of evolved so that at least some of us understand it.
In the case of shone becoming shined, I'm not about to criticize. It's more logical, IMHO. Shine, shining, shiny, shone? Shined seems to 'fit' better. And it doesn't interfere with other words, or have a weird pronounciation. Short of the fact that the dictionary says shone is correct, there's no compelling reason why shined shouldn't work. I'm not saying you should make up your own creative tenses (ie, the past tense of ping isn't "pung"), but some of them almost seem to make more sense.
There's plenty of room for English to be rong. (Yes, I did that on purpose.) But sometimes, it has to evolve. If it wasn't almost 2 AM, I'd find some good examples of everyday words that used to be something else with crazy Olde (ha! there's an example! People dropped the "e" in what I believe was error, or laziness. Do you still say olde?) English spellings, but came into use, presumably beginning as an 'error.'
I think this is one of those Quality English Moments (tm) when you simply say "Ham Radio Shines During Blackout," or find an alternative for "shine" altogther if you're concerned about the tense.
How do things like HIPPA relate to that? (Not that I'm criticizing you or anything.) If you're essentially broadcasting details of a medical phone call, it sounds a little shady.
But then I started thinking... All the radios in the back of ambulances are encryption free, and in fact, at least out here, less than 10 MHz away from the 2 meter band. (Case in point, I have the local Ambulance-Hospital frequencies in my HT.) They more or less do the same as your HT.
As I said, I'm certainly not criticizing you -- I'd hardly want you to not call a doctor while I bled to death because of privacy rules. But I'm more wondering about radios in general now -- should I really be able to hear someone's name, age, vitals, and pretty much monitor their condition until they get to the hospital, but then go into a hospital and not even be able to find out if a patient by that name is there? As a ham and EMT, do you know if there's a move to start encrypting this?
Oh, totally random -- have you seen Yaesu's VX-2R? A bit more than your rig, but smaller and higher powered. I'm still drooling over it.;)
We like radio that way. The FCC isn't about to come shoot you if you allude to business, but we don't want people 'spamming' us on the air.
Things are kept civil on the ham bands. I used to have a CB... I'm glad I don't anymore. They all talked trash, and nothing but trash. I've heard an occasional (*gasp*) trash talk or excessive profanity on the HF bands before. I doubt the FCC did anything. They have better things to do (I'd hope) than sit around listenting to hams discuss baseball waiting for one of them to swear. What happened? People pretty much told the guy to get a life. It's not all like you get booted for saying "damn". It's a lot like Slashdot, actually -- there's some foul language, but the offensive stuff is modded down, and the total wackos rambling about the newest race they've decided to hate are modded even further down. But do you complain about the censorship of modding down ASCII renditions of goatse? No, it's trash.
I really think you have a misguided opinion of the 'censorship'. We keep things professional, but we LIKE that. Things really aren't as overzealous as you might think, and a lot of the 'censorship' is peer-induced to act mature. The people who don't are generally regarded much as the trolls here. The FCC generally just goes after people who make it a point to interfere with other people. We're not 'censored,' we're just not immature. If the FCC tomorrow said that it was going to stop monitoring ham bands entirely, I doubt there'd be a noticable change in how things are done.
(And as a random note: CB is still 'censored' as you speak. The limit's 5 Watts. There ARE laws concerning CB. It's just kind of like copyright laws -- there's rampant ignorance of the laws. The idiots with kilowatt+ amps DO sometimes get cracked down on.)
If you look at the first shot, it seems they've used red for the 'common' lines of code, black for ones that are different. Note that the actual code is black.
Even if it's just comments that were stolen, it is wrong. But for those of us who just run binary apps and don't build from source... I don't have those comments.:)
One country could e.g. try to suck all power out of the grid to black out an opponent....
Just short 'em together. It should make for a spectacular fireworks show.;)
Realistically, though, I forsee this having advanced 'routing' and even 'firewalls' like the Internet. In other words, when Iraq suddenly starts using 10x the normal power, we simply say "Okay, we're going to cut back on how much power we 'share'"
It'd be more advanced than just wires run all over the place. I'd think you'd be able to say "Only share 10 megawatts" or whatnot.
It also gives us the ability to say "Iraq's been using too much power. We're about to go war with them." And get all the other providers to stop sharing power.
IMHO, this works perfectly if, and only if, it's just a means of sharing _excess_ power, but preserving (and steadfastly refusing to share) the power we need. When we have excess power being generated, we can share some. When we need a little more, we can borrow some. Like those "Take a penny, leave a penny" things. (Okay, strange example, I know.) Someone's not going to clean out your savings account by taking everything in the penny thing. All it does is helps others.
IMHO, if things were designed properly, all the power grids would be linked, but would be 'selfish' -- that is, if they started to reach their maximum load, they'd cut off surrounding areas. Kind of a "You can borrow some power from us, but only what we don't need."
I think it's no different than the Internet -- the big backbone providers 'peer' with each other, giving each other transit. But that doesn't mean that big DDoS attack aimed at one provider will cripple the whole Internet.
I downloaded (via bittorrent), and burned an ISO, booting it on my laptop, figuring it'd be a great combo. But whenever I try to boot it, I get this error:
WARNING: Autodetection seems to hang,
please check your computers [sic] BIOS settings.
Please check.
It pauses for a bit (minutes), does some stuff (seemingly with success), and finally gets into an infinite loop of trying to use my CD, with these errors:
Ack, should have previewd first.::::: New Mirrors Added!::::: http://chefax.fe.up.pt/mirrors/las/ -HTTP Portugal ftp://chefax.fe.up.pt/pub/mirrors/las/ FTP Portugal
Blatantly copying-and-pasting from LocalAreaSecurity.com (which is apparently back up on a 400 MHz box, 96 MB RAM, on a T1). I recommend BitTorrent, but if you're gonna use mirrors, here's a bigger list:::::: New Mirrors Added!:::::
http://chefax.fe.up.pt/mirrors/las/ -HTTP Portugal
ftp://chefax.fe.up.pt/pub/mirrors/las/ FTP Portugal
ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/las/ -FTP Greece
http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/las/ -HTTP Greece
http://ftp.lug.udel.edu/pub/iso-images/LAS -US Delaware
ftp://ftp.lug.udel.edu/pub/iso-images/LAS -US Delaware::::: DOWNLOAD:::::
L.A.S. 0.4a Main with FluxBox MD5: 0939d7294035b5246bedbce1085bb1e1
http://lightning.chem.tue.nl/las/l.a.s_0.4a_MAIN.i so -The Netherlands
http://sarovar.org/mirrors/knoppix-las/l.a.s_0.4a_ MAIN.iso -India/Asian Pacific
http://psifertex.nerdc.ufl.edu/iso/l.a.s_0.4a_MAIN.iso -USA
L.A.S. 0.3b Main MD5: f47150d2458c78169a65458bcf8ebf96
http://lightning.chem.tue.nl/las/l.a.s_0.3b.iso
http://sarovar.org/mirrors/knoppix-las/l.a.s_0.3b. iso
http://psifertex.nerdc.ufl.edu/iso/l.a.s_0.3b.iso
L.A.S. 0.3b SECSERV MD5: ff412734492e39d1d084ced556a47493
http://lightning.chem.tue.nl/las/l.a.s_0.3b_SECSER V.iso
http://sarovar.org/mirrors/knoppix-las/l.a.s_0.3b_ SECSERV.iso
http://psifertex.nerdc.ufl.edu/iso/l.a.s_0.3b_SECS ERV.iso
I had no trouble, but I copied it to my site.
http://n1zyy.com/l.a.s_0.4a_MAIN.iso.torrent
(BTW, never thought I'd say this, but mods, please don't mod this up. I'd prefer to not get slammed with hits.)
I'm quite sure it's either me not having my contacts in, or the graph being sloppy-interpolated or whatnot, but doesn't it seem to actually go slightly BELOW 0 in the summer of 2002?
xmag backs me up on this. It's only one pixel below the line, but it's distinctly BELOW 0.
Lemme post a quick reply -- I never got BT to work, and figured I'd just download from the mirrors. I got sick of 30 KB/sec, an got BitTorrent to work. I'm at 147 KB/sec and rising. (And as a sidenote... You'll be alleviating the huge load on the mirrors, as well as helping your fellow/.ers.)
Don't do it because of the pleas from the mirror operators -- do it to get a faster download.:)
If you're a big college and not a private individual, I'd say you ought to completely blow it off. The worst that can happen is they'll take you to court over it, where they'll look like complete idiots.
This is rather like downloading Windows Longhorn and wondering what preparations you might need.
Or rather, it's like compiling Windows Longhorn specifically for your system.
And personally... I like Linux being "by nerds for nerds," although more and more non-nerds are turning to it. If you're going to troll, at least get it right.
Heh, you're clearly in the same situtation (almost as if you're stalking me;)) -- the phone lines are so lousy here that's Adelphia or 28.8 dialup. I'll take ignorant tech support and 3 Mbps / 128 kbps over 28.8 any day.
Slashdot Mirror
When you buy in huge quantities, you can get really sweet deals. Cogent can be had for $10/Mbps, $30/Mbps if you're reselling (ISP / hosting). Granted, Cogent's "cheap" bandwidth, but a lot of reputable places can be had for $50/Mbps or so if you're buying huge quantities.
Not that I at _all_ support the practice of spyware 'phoning home,' but (even ignoring what the DMCA could be use for) an evil corporation could probably get somewhere by arguing that this was (wire) fraud. I'd be careful about it.
I hear older versions of Photoshop did the same? Actually, I've noticed blinking network lights when I start Photoshop, too. Makes me wonder... :)
Sorry if my post came across as critical; it certainly wasn't intended to.
:) (Although really it's not a _massive_ deal, I have to admit.) Thanks for your response.
I guess NYC is a bit different from rural NH, but out here you'll hear the dispatch to the house, where you can get the name and why they called 911. Then when they're in the ambulance calling the hospital, you get more detailed information. And I swear I've heard full names once or twice on ambulance-hospital, though I don't listen often enough to know how routine it is.
(It might just be clueless people out here, though. The local police department uses APCO 25 digital voice for their 'top secret' communications, as an alternative to secure landline calls. They don't seem to understand that simply digitizing (not encrypting) it isn't good security. There are off-the-shelf scanners that'll decode it.)
I guess I'd have to take my privacy concerns up locally then.
I had a (semi-insane, IMHO) English teacher once who constantly told us that language was an organism. Although he could be really 'out there' sometimes (there was a piece of toast stapled to his bulletin board for at least a month, and he steadfastly refused to talk about it)... He really did have a point. Words like "doh" (Homer Simpson's "DOH!") have made it into the OED as 'real.' In fact "slashdotted" is a rather good example. It's not a legitimate word -- you won't find it in any dictionary. But language has kind of evolved so that at least some of us understand it.
In the case of shone becoming shined, I'm not about to criticize. It's more logical, IMHO. Shine, shining, shiny, shone? Shined seems to 'fit' better. And it doesn't interfere with other words, or have a weird pronounciation. Short of the fact that the dictionary says shone is correct, there's no compelling reason why shined shouldn't work. I'm not saying you should make up your own creative tenses (ie, the past tense of ping isn't "pung"), but some of them almost seem to make more sense.
There's plenty of room for English to be rong. (Yes, I did that on purpose.) But sometimes, it has to evolve. If it wasn't almost 2 AM, I'd find some good examples of everyday words that used to be something else with crazy Olde (ha! there's an example! People dropped the "e" in what I believe was error, or laziness. Do you still say olde?) English spellings, but came into use, presumably beginning as an 'error.'
I think this is one of those Quality English Moments (tm) when you simply say "Ham Radio Shines During Blackout," or find an alternative for "shine" altogther if you're concerned about the tense.
Don't they rely on the cell network? Or at least phone lines?
How do things like HIPPA relate to that? (Not that I'm criticizing you or anything.) If you're essentially broadcasting details of a medical phone call, it sounds a little shady.
;)
But then I started thinking... All the radios in the back of ambulances are encryption free, and in fact, at least out here, less than 10 MHz away from the 2 meter band. (Case in point, I have the local Ambulance-Hospital frequencies in my HT.) They more or less do the same as your HT.
As I said, I'm certainly not criticizing you -- I'd hardly want you to not call a doctor while I bled to death because of privacy rules. But I'm more wondering about radios in general now -- should I really be able to hear someone's name, age, vitals, and pretty much monitor their condition until they get to the hospital, but then go into a hospital and not even be able to find out if a patient by that name is there? As a ham and EMT, do you know if there's a move to start encrypting this?
Oh, totally random -- have you seen Yaesu's VX-2R? A bit more than your rig, but smaller and higher powered. I'm still drooling over it.
We like radio that way. The FCC isn't about to come shoot you if you allude to business, but we don't want people 'spamming' us on the air.
Things are kept civil on the ham bands. I used to have a CB... I'm glad I don't anymore. They all talked trash, and nothing but trash. I've heard an occasional (*gasp*) trash talk or excessive profanity on the HF bands before. I doubt the FCC did anything. They have better things to do (I'd hope) than sit around listenting to hams discuss baseball waiting for one of them to swear. What happened? People pretty much told the guy to get a life. It's not all like you get booted for saying "damn". It's a lot like Slashdot, actually -- there's some foul language, but the offensive stuff is modded down, and the total wackos rambling about the newest race they've decided to hate are modded even further down. But do you complain about the censorship of modding down ASCII renditions of goatse? No, it's trash.
I really think you have a misguided opinion of the 'censorship'. We keep things professional, but we LIKE that. Things really aren't as overzealous as you might think, and a lot of the 'censorship' is peer-induced to act mature. The people who don't are generally regarded much as the trolls here. The FCC generally just goes after people who make it a point to interfere with other people. We're not 'censored,' we're just not immature. If the FCC tomorrow said that it was going to stop monitoring ham bands entirely, I doubt there'd be a noticable change in how things are done.
(And as a random note: CB is still 'censored' as you speak. The limit's 5 Watts. There ARE laws concerning CB. It's just kind of like copyright laws -- there's rampant ignorance of the laws. The idiots with kilowatt+ amps DO sometimes get cracked down on.)
I know what you mean. It's all Greek to me!
If you look at the first shot, it seems they've used red for the 'common' lines of code, black for ones that are different. Note that the actual code is black.
:)
Even if it's just comments that were stolen, it is wrong. But for those of us who just run binary apps and don't build from source... I don't have those comments.
One country could e.g. try to suck all power out of the grid to black out an opponent....
;)
Just short 'em together. It should make for a spectacular fireworks show.
Realistically, though, I forsee this having advanced 'routing' and even 'firewalls' like the Internet. In other words, when Iraq suddenly starts using 10x the normal power, we simply say "Okay, we're going to cut back on how much power we 'share'"
It'd be more advanced than just wires run all over the place. I'd think you'd be able to say "Only share 10 megawatts" or whatnot.
It also gives us the ability to say "Iraq's been using too much power. We're about to go war with them." And get all the other providers to stop sharing power.
IMHO, this works perfectly if, and only if, it's just a means of sharing _excess_ power, but preserving (and steadfastly refusing to share) the power we need. When we have excess power being generated, we can share some. When we need a little more, we can borrow some. Like those "Take a penny, leave a penny" things. (Okay, strange example, I know.) Someone's not going to clean out your savings account by taking everything in the penny thing. All it does is helps others.
IMHO, if things were designed properly, all the power grids would be linked, but would be 'selfish' -- that is, if they started to reach their maximum load, they'd cut off surrounding areas. Kind of a "You can borrow some power from us, but only what we don't need."
I think it's no different than the Internet -- the big backbone providers 'peer' with each other, giving each other transit. But that doesn't mean that big DDoS attack aimed at one provider will cripple the whole Internet.
I downloaded (via bittorrent), and burned an ISO, booting it on my laptop, figuring it'd be a great combo. But whenever I try to boot it, I get this error:
WARNING: Autodetection seems to hang, please check your computers [sic] BIOS settings. Please check.
It pauses for a bit (minutes), does some stuff (seemingly with success), and finally gets into an infinite loop of trying to use my CD, with these errors:
hdc: status error: status=0x20 { Device Fault } ide-sci: Strange, packet command initiated yet DRQ isn't asserted hdc: ATAPI reset complete
It repeats this infinitely. What's going on, and how can I stop it?
Ack, should have previewd first. ::::: New Mirrors Added! :::::
A S -US Delaware ::::: DOWNLOAD :::::
N .i so -The Netherlands
4 a_ MAIN.iso -India/Asian Pacific
A IN .iso -USA
3 b. iso
s o
S ER V.iso
3 b_ SECSERV.iso
E CS ERV.iso
http://chefax.fe.up.pt/mirrors/las/ -HTTP Portugal
ftp://chefax.fe.up.pt/pub/mirrors/las/ FTP Portugal
ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/las/ -FTP Greece
http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/las/ -HTTP Greece
http://ftp.lug.udel.edu/pub/iso-images/LAS -US Delaware
ftp://ftp.lug.udel.edu/pub/iso-images/L
L.A.S. 0.4a Main with FluxBox MD5: 0939d7294035b5246bedbce1085bb1e1
http://lightning.chem.tue.nl/las/l.a.s_0.4a_MAI
http://sarovar.org/mirrors/knoppix-las/l.a.s_0.
http://psifertex.nerdc.ufl.edu/iso/l.a.s_0.4a_M
L.A.S. 0.3b Main MD5: f47150d2458c78169a65458bcf8ebf96
http://lightning.chem.tue.nl/las/l.a.s_0.3b.iso
http://sarovar.org/mirrors/knoppix-las/l.a.s_0.
http://psifertex.nerdc.ufl.edu/iso/l.a.s_0.3b.i
L.A.S. 0.3b SECSERV MD5: ff412734492e39d1d084ced556a47493
http://lightning.chem.tue.nl/las/l.a.s_0.3b_SEC
http://sarovar.org/mirrors/knoppix-las/l.a.s_0.
http://psifertex.nerdc.ufl.edu/iso/l.a.s_0.3b_S
Blatantly copying-and-pasting from LocalAreaSecurity.com (which is apparently back up on a 400 MHz box, 96 MB RAM, on a T1). I recommend BitTorrent, but if you're gonna use mirrors, here's a bigger list: ::::: New Mirrors Added! :::::
http://chefax.fe.up.pt/mirrors/las/ -HTTP Portugal
ftp://chefax.fe.up.pt/pub/mirrors/las/ FTP Portugal
ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/las/ -FTP Greece
http://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/linux/las/ -HTTP Greece
http://ftp.lug.udel.edu/pub/iso-images/LAS -US Delaware
ftp://ftp.lug.udel.edu/pub/iso-images/LAS -US Delaware ::::: DOWNLOAD :::::
L.A.S. 0.4a Main with FluxBox MD5: 0939d7294035b5246bedbce1085bb1e1
http://lightning.chem.tue.nl/las/l.a.s_0.4a_MAIN.i so -The Netherlands
http://sarovar.org/mirrors/knoppix-las/l.a.s_0.4a_ MAIN.iso -India/Asian Pacific
http://psifertex.nerdc.ufl.edu/iso/l.a.s_0.4a_MAIN .iso -USA
L.A.S. 0.3b Main MD5: f47150d2458c78169a65458bcf8ebf96
http://lightning.chem.tue.nl/las/l.a.s_0.3b.iso
http://sarovar.org/mirrors/knoppix-las/l.a.s_0.3b. iso
http://psifertex.nerdc.ufl.edu/iso/l.a.s_0.3b.iso
L.A.S. 0.3b SECSERV MD5: ff412734492e39d1d084ced556a47493
http://lightning.chem.tue.nl/las/l.a.s_0.3b_SECSER V.iso
http://sarovar.org/mirrors/knoppix-las/l.a.s_0.3b_ SECSERV.iso
http://psifertex.nerdc.ufl.edu/iso/l.a.s_0.3b_SECS ERV.iso
That's rather nieve. A well-tuned version of Linux probably could. But we've seen machines far more powerful than a P133 running Apache go down.
Plus, fairly often, the problem is bandwidth being exceeded and not the machine.
I had no trouble, but I copied it to my site. http://n1zyy.com/l.a.s_0.4a_MAIN.iso.torrent (BTW, never thought I'd say this, but mods, please don't mod this up. I'd prefer to not get slammed with hits.)
I'm quite sure it's either me not having my contacts in, or the graph being sloppy-interpolated or whatnot, but doesn't it seem to actually go slightly BELOW 0 in the summer of 2002?
xmag backs me up on this. It's only one pixel below the line, but it's distinctly BELOW 0.
Lemme post a quick reply -- I never got BT to work, and figured I'd just download from the mirrors. I got sick of 30 KB/sec, an got BitTorrent to work. I'm at 147 KB/sec and rising. (And as a sidenote... You'll be alleviating the huge load on the mirrors, as well as helping your fellow /.ers.)
:)
Don't do it because of the pleas from the mirror operators -- do it to get a faster download.
If you're a big college and not a private individual, I'd say you ought to completely blow it off. The worst that can happen is they'll take you to court over it, where they'll look like complete idiots.
This is rather like downloading Windows Longhorn and wondering what preparations you might need.
Or rather, it's like compiling Windows Longhorn specifically for your system.
And personally... I like Linux being "by nerds for nerds," although more and more non-nerds are turning to it. If you're going to troll, at least get it right.
Heh, you're clearly in the same situtation (almost as if you're stalking me ;)) -- the phone lines are so lousy here that's Adelphia or 28.8 dialup. I'll take ignorant tech support and 3 Mbps / 128 kbps over 28.8 any day.
Not a RedHat user, but I'd think it might take a day or two (at the least) for them to release an RPM?
The excess t's were to make up for the missing //.