"Go back to bed, America, your government has figured out how it all transpired,
go back to bed America, your government is in control again.
Here, here's American Gladiators.
Watch this,
shut up,
go back to bed America,
here is American Gladiators,
here is 56 channels of it!
Watch these pituitary retards bang their fucking skulls together and
congratulate you on living in the land of freedom. Here you go America
you are free to do what we tell you!
You are free to do what we tell you!"
I understand a car seller doesn't care to know if you own a license, i understand it's the same for a computer seller. BUT no one would consider taking a car on the road without haveing learn the minimum skill.
In computing, Microsoft pounded the "customer" with campaigns that said stuff like "if you can click, you can do anything".
Now users do not put that affirmation to the test, they take it in and live with it. They know how to click, but no more. Thus when they can't do something, they blame themselves for not being intelligent, where intelligence would dictate them to learn...
in my opinion, this trend is a direct consequence to the Microsoft office 4.x ad campaign: it's message was that if you have microsoft office installed, you could do anything with just a few clicks.
non IT people (ie the majority of windows users) have been brought up to the computing age/by/ microsoft ADs. These do not want to admit that/they don't know/. They do not want to admit thay have to/learn/ the HowTo's of computer/internet/etc...
++
my counter argument to these people is that although anyone can go on the "information motorways", very few actually take driving lessons, hence the problem.
this is starting to bore me. not because you efficiently "break" the exemples i choose to use, but because you do not want to step back and glance at the whole situation.
I am not saying that we, french people/governement are better then you USofA.
what I am saying is that the economcal/military/political dominance you have grants you a great power and a great responsability. you use the great power with so little responsibility that it makes you unworhty of the said power.
ok here I could spend say an hour or so digging anecdotes to asses what I say here. I will not, you seem to have that kind of time which I don't.
Certain americans, with the diplomacy that we have come to expect from them, demand that french people remember that we owe them our freedom. We let them know, we do remember the legacy those dead in Normandie have granted us. BUT This remind me of a happening at home when I was very very young. Once I came to dinner and I had washed my hand without having to be told to do so. I looked up at my dad across the table and claimed "look dad, I washed my hands!" he looked at me very severely and said "you don't want me to congragulate you for something totaly normal, do you?". You came to our rescu against an enemy of freedom. that is the normal course of action. There is nothin grand about it. period. ANYWAY Our memory is not as selective, or so it seems, as yours. We do not forget that in 1940, on french roads, the heavy trucks that were dragging people to the slaughterhouse were powered by Ford and GeneralMotors, nor that the Messerschmiit were running on GeneralMotors engines. finaly we do not forget that the IIIrd Reich could not have been born and prospered if not for the investissement done in germany by the biggest US industrials, acting as they were doing this for peace, although as always they were working for the money, as always. "world peace through world trade", had said Thomas Watson, IBM, american, yes, but nazi at heart, and decorated by hitler himself of the German Eagle. Must I quote Charles Lindberg, decorated also by hitler himself, or Joseph P.Kennedy, father of the president, whom did not loose money with his freindship with the reich and the contribution given to Hitler. No rest assured, americans, we have not forgotten. Those of us that were in the basement in Caen, Saint-Lo and other normand town, we do not forget how the american army bombarded any and everything from 10throusand feet. Many were those who were freed at that very moment. But still we thank you.
The Old Europe has a long history, each page of this history is stained with blood and tears. Yours, Americans, is much shorter, and no doubt, although your frequetly quote the bible, you have not yet assimilated the universal message that solidarity is much more efficient thatn struggle. It will come with time, no doubt, when you will have suffered (I actually thought that 9/11 would be the turning point). I sincerly wish to americans that this thruth does not come to late, that you will not have to pay the heavy price for your warly thoughtlessness.
But once again, we thank you for your 1944 intervention. It answered those of La Fayette, of Rochambeau, of the french troupps whom in 1778 came to help you/become/ the USofA. there is one tiny difference though. We came at the very start of the conflic, without having ever helped your adversaries. In 1917 and 1942 it toke you 3 years to run to the human rights' rescue, after having helped hitler humiliate your friends.
+++++++ having said that, I am completely aware that TODAY 95% of the weapons that exists today are made and sold by the 5 top coutries in the UN (that means France and US and others) I am ashamed of it, are you? +++++++
now about saddam hussein, we never said "saddam is not a mass murderer" we always said, the UnitedNations' policy for desarmement/is/ working, the war "for mass murder weapons" is not necessary. And time has proven us right since thou still haven't found any weapons. WE NEVER said that saddam was not ma mass murderer. we agree with you when you say he had to be removed for the GREATER GOOD of the iraqi people. but please don't tell me you did that: you didn't. you did it for money as usual and always. but still it is a good thing for the iraqi people (that saddam's gone, i mean, not that/you/ did it).
not do you understand this? we are not criticizing what you did but WHY you did it. you USofA do not use your power with responsibilities, you use it for YOUR OWN GOOD.
well actually there is also a fact to take into consideration: the USofA are a big country (that means that you indeed have to burn more gas to go from city to city) but then why is there 4 cars per family all with high consuming quotas?...
well to me there's a terrible difference between something done to one's self and something done to other. The one that got raped didn't asked for it (dont come on me about exceptions) The one that rolled himself a cone asks for the consequences, and actually is very aware of the consequences.
so in the first case we have somebody that has to be punnished for doing something outlaw on somebody else and in the second case, we have somebody that has to be punnished for doing something outlaw on himself.
ok now let's take a look at one definition of freedom:
One's freedom stops where the next guys freedom starts.
Cleary the one who rapes does interfere with someone else's freedom. but what about the one who's smoking his cone at home say at the window. (Who's freedom is he interfering with?)
so if for some reason both actions are regarded as outlaw, then the one that interfere with someone else's freedom should (I THINK) be punished much more severly.
about the first aritlce on the impact of the us boycott.
I am not saying it (the boycott) has no influence... no wait actually i did say that. I meant we would have gone down as steadily, I assure you, the economical descision taken at this time in france are... stupid. The us boycoot/is/ felt, but is not the cause. (am I understandable on this?)
as for the second article, well, it's true some idiots came and put graffiti on some tombs. But these few idotics do not represent the french community, I hope you do know that, right?
where as you first page said "they have forgotten" meaning they= the french people...
actually the majority of the french people (you know which majority, you have the same : the one that is easily drove by headlines, the one that dosen't think much) felt offended that you would acctually say "they have forgotten" (/my/ grand father was saved by one of yours!). We felt offended that you would event/think/ we would forget. We deeply know that if not for you, the USofA, France would ben german speaking today. so the french croud did feel insulted when we read that article "they have forgoten". and yes somme of these people started the anti-american trend. I actualy was part of it. I then realised that it was only the tip of the iceberg. Yes some people did paint those tombs, yes some french did say "americans out". But when we try to understand the way you think, we very rapidely conclude that you use the power you have (the power that is granted by your economical and military superiority) , without the responsibilities that comes with it.
so yes, you're good at working with google and finding articles that will deniy what I say, but all the articles in the web (4 trilion pages i think!) will not show USofA as acting responsible/towards the power it has/.
(may I point out that for ANY kind of reserach, it is always wiser to get the counter information : you went to US and british sites to get these articles, but look as well in french or event other sites... get the point of vue from ALL points of vu before stating something)
here is one thruth: "Power comes with responsabilities"
no no no! I am not saying that american laws are stupid-ier thant anywhere else (we have here in france stupid laws you wouldn't even imagine in your wildest fantasy!); please don't put word in my mouth: You're the one being foolish if you think that the US is the leader of stupid laws I do not think so.
I am saying that the control US leaders (political, enocomical, ideological...) "SEEM" to want is to control without "education". Wheras in france (in europe actually) leaders (some of them) "SEEM" to be trying to "educate" people to be more responsible, more altruist, more how would you say "aware". We are much more aware (OR SO IT SEEMS) of the consuquences of or actions.
Oh yeah, your economy is also shrinking drastically solely because we decided to stop visiting you after you desecrated the cemeteries that our grandfathers are buried in from liberating you from nazi's i'll answer that in two ways: FIRST our economie is down due to our own inabbility to have it go steady, you USofA have nothing to do in that matter. But that argument of yours actualy makes my point: you are not _whatever you may actually believe_ nor will you/ever be/ the center of the world, not economicaly, not politicaly, not religiously, not philosophicaly, not anything, period. I beleive that no one is the center, but we, meaning/WE/, all together, are the center.
SECOND We have not forgotten thos americans whom died to "free France". We have never desacralise anything, anyone, or any memory. We have not forgotten, how you USofA waited before "rescuing" us to be the last one standing. You talk and do war all the time, but never actualy had a war on your ground, you have never been invaded, you just DO NOT know what you're talking about, so please have the decency to let those dead for other where they are: at peace. the political decision which led the USofA in war are exclusively economical. You didnt' cross the ocean to exclusively "rescue" france from the nazi if you did you would have done it three years ealier. No you cross the ocean to rescu us becaus it was an opportunity. (more power / more money/ you choose) so pleeeaaaaase stop bringing that argument on the table, I'm sick of it, you had to loose pearl harbour to even get involved.
you accuse all American citizens of being uneducated solely because there's a law against drinking in public in New York no, I do not. Once again i ask you not to put words in my mouth. I am acusing the leaders (whom ever they are: political, economical, religious...) to seek control instead of education. I am acusing leaders ALL OVER THE WORLD actualy to seek power/money in order to obtain more power/money. I know for sure that people that seek power should be seeking power for the GREATER GOOD. I know very few people whom actualy/did/ good once they actualy got power: Martin Luther King (american, be proud!) Gandhi Dalai-lama Mother Theresa
my post showed my opinion (read IMHO) this opinion is always open to debate, revision, fluctuation, of course, I am human, what I say or believ in is not the truth it may at the very best be MY thruth, but will always be opened to debate.
I did not wish to insult not you personaly, nor the americans, not even the leaders..
As a mater of fact, I don't offend; period. (it very supprising how such an attitude arouses many conflicts: it SEEMS people are scared by friendly open-minded people!!)
That said, it is interessting to see that you do speak of califormian as having a larger economie than us quote "genius french citizen" unquote. That's exactly true. But the fact that the USofA are bigger than others actually gives USofA a power (economocal, political etc) that is certainly used (political embargos, army deployement, etc); but it also grants the USofA responsibilities, which it seems your leaders are not aware of.
FYI: from definition Pocket Oxford Dictionary seem: v. (often foll. by to + infin.) appear or feel (seems ridiculous). I etc. can't seem to I etc. appear unable to (can't seem to manage it). it seems (or would seem) (often foll. by that) it appears to be the case. [Old Norse]
actually I would pity the USofA to have to cope with GW Bush another four years. But Hey, you do whatever you want with your country, its future, its health, its economy. The problem is although some americans seem to think so, you americans do not do whatever you want with the world, the planet.
by "the world" I mean you don't go in a place you know nothing about (<_choose the coutry of your choice and place it here_>) and change whatever you wanna change, may it be governement, economical strategies or whatever;
AND
by "the planet" I mean you don't go on poluting the planet's atmospher 10 times more than any other citizen of the planet without even acknowledging it..
(I'm a french pothead that doesn't drink nor smoke)
I think that you're making a point very VERY important here:
US citizen (as it seems from france) are NOT educated.
I'll make my point:
In paris youy are allowed to drink alcool on the street, but are not allowd to/be drunk/ on the street. (it's the right opposit in NewYork, or so I've been told)
So in NewYork, you can be completly drunk on the streets, with all the danger that could outcome from such a situation, but there are many restrictions as to where and how yo drink.
on the opposit, in Paris, the legal system take the citiezen as "educated" enough to drink and stop/before/ being drunk.
now, wich one of these two "currents of law" is enlighten? is it the one that actualy allows the citizen to endanger himself and others, and prohibits him from doing something as harmless as drinking, or is it the one that lets you drink until your become a danger to yourself or others?
now in the us, you can go to prison for life for selling pot, but can be on the street again after having killed/raped?
those americans that control the country since 2nd world war, are inteligent people, yea right, but their are not into altruism, whereas such control should be held by altruism. (mind me, with chirac, look who's talking)
Slashdot Mirror
you seem to forget quite fast..
/ever/ get a clue... ?
Clinton (president of the USofA) lied
Georges W. Bush (president of the USofA) lied
so please don't tell me you are supprised to learn that
american corpo lie too.
I did login just for that comment.
get a clue
"Go back to bed, America, your government has figured out how it all transpired,
go back to bed America, your government is in control again.
Here, here's American Gladiators.
Watch this,
shut up,
go back to bed America,
here is American Gladiators,
here is 56 channels of it!
Watch these pituitary retards bang their fucking skulls together and
congratulate you on living in the land of freedom.
Here you go America
you are free to do what we tell you!
You are free to do what we tell you!"
djeee will you
My point exactly.
There should be.
I understand a car seller doesn't care to know if you own a license, i understand it's the same for a computer seller.
BUT
no one would consider taking a car on the road without haveing learn the minimum skill.
In computing, Microsoft pounded the "customer" with campaigns that said stuff like "if you can click, you can do anything".
Now users do not put that affirmation to the test, they take it in and live with it.
They know how to click, but no more.
Thus when they can't do something, they blame themselves for not being intelligent, where intelligence would dictate them to learn...
(ma second post on ./, be gentle)
/by/ microsoft ADs. /they don't know/. /learn/ the HowTo's of computer/internet/etc...
in my opinion, this trend is a direct consequence to the Microsoft office 4.x ad campaign:
it's message was that if you have microsoft office installed, you could do anything with just a few clicks.
non IT people (ie the majority of windows users) have been brought up to the computing age
These do not want to admit that
They do not want to admit thay have to
++
my counter argument to these people is that although anyone can go on the "information motorways", very few actually take driving lessons, hence the problem.
this is starting to bore me.
not because you efficiently "break" the exemples i choose to use, but because you do not want to step back and glance at the whole situation.
I am not saying that we, french people/governement are better then you USofA.
what I am saying is that the economcal/military/political dominance you have grants you a great power and a great responsability.
you use the great power with so little responsibility that it makes you unworhty of the said power.
ok here I could spend say an hour or so digging anecdotes to asses what I say here. I will not, you seem to have that kind of time which I don't.
I'll just direct you to this beautifull letter from paulo coelho entitled, "thank you president bush".
now please, dig out some google search that will proove me wrong, i don't mind.
+++
about that argument, there is not only one reason for which we went to iraq etc etc.
that argument is TRUE.
so i will not deny it.
but then , why is the "get more money and/or power" ALWAYS behind anything you USofA do outside USofA?
(could it be because it is the USofA's primary objective?...)
.
you may wanna have look at my answer here
Certain americans, with the diplomacy that we have come to expect from them, demand that french people remember that we owe them our freedom. We let them know, we do remember the legacy those dead in Normandie have granted us.
/become/ the USofA.
/is/ working, the war "for mass murder weapons" is not necessary. /you/ did it).
BUT
This remind me of a happening at home when I was very very young. Once I came to dinner and I had washed my hand without having to be told to do so. I looked up at my dad across the table and claimed "look dad, I washed my hands!" he looked at me very severely and said "you don't want me to congragulate you for something totaly normal, do you?".
You came to our rescu against an enemy of freedom. that is the normal course of action. There is nothin grand about it. period.
ANYWAY
Our memory is not as selective, or so it seems, as yours. We do not forget that in 1940, on french roads, the heavy trucks that were dragging people to the slaughterhouse were powered by Ford and GeneralMotors, nor that the Messerschmiit were running on GeneralMotors engines. finaly we do not forget that the IIIrd Reich could not have been born and prospered if not for the investissement done in germany by the biggest US industrials, acting as they were doing this for peace, although as always they were working for the money, as always. "world peace through world trade", had said Thomas Watson, IBM, american, yes, but nazi at heart, and decorated by hitler himself of the German Eagle.
Must I quote Charles Lindberg, decorated also by hitler himself, or Joseph P.Kennedy, father of the president, whom did not loose money with his freindship with the reich and the contribution given to Hitler.
No rest assured, americans, we have not forgotten. Those of us that were in the basement in Caen, Saint-Lo and other normand town, we do not forget how the american army bombarded any and everything from 10throusand feet. Many were those who were freed at that very moment.
But still we thank you.
The Old Europe has a long history, each page of this history is stained with blood and tears. Yours, Americans, is much shorter, and no doubt, although your frequetly quote the bible, you have not yet assimilated the universal message that solidarity is much more efficient thatn struggle. It will come with time, no doubt, when you will have suffered (I actually thought that 9/11 would be the turning point). I sincerly wish to americans that this thruth does not come to late, that you will not have to pay the heavy price for your warly thoughtlessness.
But once again, we thank you for your 1944 intervention. It answered those of La Fayette, of Rochambeau, of the french troupps whom in 1778 came to help you
there is one tiny difference though.
We came at the very start of the conflic, without having ever helped your adversaries.
In 1917 and 1942 it toke you 3 years to run to the human rights' rescue, after having helped hitler humiliate your friends.
+++++++
having said that, I am completely aware that TODAY 95% of the weapons that exists today are made and sold by the 5 top coutries in the UN (that means France and US and others)
I am ashamed of it, are you?
+++++++
now about saddam hussein, we never said "saddam is not a mass murderer" we always said, the UnitedNations' policy for desarmement
And time has proven us right since thou still haven't found any weapons.
WE NEVER said that saddam was not ma mass murderer. we agree with you when you say he had to be removed for the GREATER GOOD of the iraqi people. but please don't tell me you did that: you didn't. you did it for money as usual and always. but still it is a good thing for the iraqi people (that saddam's gone, i mean, not that
not do you understand this? we are not criticizing what you did but WHY you did it.
you USofA do not use your power with responsibilities, you use it for YOUR OWN GOOD.
.
well actually there is also a fact to take into consideration: the USofA are a big country (that means that you indeed have to burn more gas to go from city to city)
but then why is there 4 cars per family all with high consuming quotas?...
well to me there's a terrible difference between something done to one's self and something done to other.
:
The one that got raped didn't asked for it (dont come on me about exceptions)
The one that rolled himself a cone asks for the consequences, and actually is very aware of the consequences.
so in the first case we have somebody that has to be punnished for doing something outlaw on somebody else and in the second case, we have somebody that has to be punnished for doing something outlaw on himself.
ok now let's take a look at one definition of freedom
One's freedom stops where the next guys freedom starts.
Cleary the one who rapes does interfere with someone else's freedom.
but what about the one who's smoking his cone at home say at the window. (Who's freedom is he interfering with?)
so if for some reason both actions are regarded as outlaw, then the one that interfere with someone else's freedom should (I THINK) be punished much more severly.
i think that is originaly what Anonymous Coward meant.
.
about the first aritlce on the impact of the us boycott.
... no wait actually i did say that. I meant we would have gone down as steadily, I assure you, the economical descision taken at this time in france are... stupid. The us boycoot /is/ felt, but is not the cause. (am I understandable on this?)
/think/ we would forget. We deeply know that if not for you, the USofA, France would ben german speaking today.
/towards the power it has/.
I am not saying it (the boycott) has no influence
as for the second article, well, it's true some idiots came and put graffiti on some tombs.
But these few idotics do not represent the french community, I hope you do know that, right?
where as you first page said "they have forgotten" meaning they= the french people...
actually the majority of the french people (you know which majority, you have the same : the one that is easily drove by headlines, the one that dosen't think much) felt offended that you would acctually say "they have forgotten" (/my/ grand father was saved by one of yours!).
We felt offended that you would event
so the french croud did feel insulted when we read that article "they have forgoten". and yes somme of these people started the anti-american trend.
I actualy was part of it.
I then realised that it was only the tip of the iceberg. Yes some people did paint those tombs, yes some french did say "americans out".
But when we try to understand the way you think, we very rapidely conclude that you use the power you have (the power that is granted by your economical and military superiority) , without the responsibilities that comes with it.
so yes, you're good at working with google and finding articles that will deniy what I say, but all the articles in the web (4 trilion pages i think!) will not show USofA as acting responsible
(may I point out that for ANY kind of reserach, it is always wiser to get the counter information : you went to US and british sites to get these articles, but look as well in french or event other sites... get the point of vue from ALL points of vu before stating something)
here is one thruth:
"Power comes with responsabilities"
and another:
no no no! I am not saying that american laws are stupid-ier thant anywhere else (we have here in france stupid laws you wouldn't even imagine in your wildest fantasy!); please don't put word in my mouth: You're the one being foolish if you think that the US is the leader of stupid laws
.
/ever be/ the center of the world, not economicaly, not politicaly, not religiously, not philosophicaly, not anything, period. /WE/, all together, are the center.
/did/ good once they actualy got power:
I do not think so.
I am saying that the control US leaders (political, enocomical, ideological...) "SEEM" to want is to control without "education". Wheras in france (in europe actually) leaders (some of them) "SEEM" to be trying to "educate" people to be more responsible, more altruist, more how would you say "aware"
We are much more aware (OR SO IT SEEMS) of the consuquences of or actions.
Oh yeah, your economy is also shrinking drastically solely because we decided to stop visiting you after you desecrated the cemeteries that our grandfathers are buried in from liberating you from nazi's
i'll answer that in two ways:
FIRST
our economie is down due to our own inabbility to have it go steady, you USofA have nothing to do in that matter.
But that argument of yours actualy makes my point: you are not _whatever you may actually believe_ nor will you
I beleive that no one is the center, but we, meaning
SECOND
We have not forgotten thos americans whom died to "free France".
We have never desacralise anything, anyone, or any memory.
We have not forgotten, how you USofA waited before "rescuing" us to be the last one standing. You talk and do war all the time, but never actualy had a war on your ground, you have never been invaded, you just DO NOT know what you're talking about, so please have the decency to let those dead for other where they are: at peace.
the political decision which led the USofA in war are exclusively economical. You didnt' cross the ocean to exclusively "rescue" france from the nazi if you did you would have done it three years ealier. No you cross the ocean to rescu us becaus it was an opportunity. (more power / more money/ you choose)
so pleeeaaaaase stop bringing that argument on the table, I'm sick of it, you had to loose pearl harbour to even get involved.
you accuse all American citizens of being uneducated solely because there's a law against drinking in public in New York
no, I do not. Once again i ask you not to put words in my mouth.
I am acusing the leaders (whom ever they are: political, economical, religious...) to seek control instead of education. I am acusing leaders ALL OVER THE WORLD actualy to seek power/money in order to obtain more power/money. I know for sure that people that seek power should be seeking power for the GREATER GOOD.
I know very few people whom actualy
Martin Luther King (american, be proud!)
Gandhi
Dalai-lama
Mother Theresa
my post showed my opinion (read IMHO)
this opinion is always open to debate, revision, fluctuation, of course, I am human, what I say or believ in is not the truth it may at the very best be MY thruth, but will always be opened to debate.
I did not wish to insult not you personaly, nor the americans, not even the leaders..
As a mater of fact, I don't offend; period.
(it very supprising how such an attitude arouses many conflicts: it SEEMS people are scared by friendly open-minded people!!)
That said, it is interessting to see that you do speak of califormian as having a larger economie than us quote "genius french citizen" unquote.
That's exactly true.
But the fact that the USofA are bigger than others actually gives USofA a power (economocal, political etc) that is certainly used (political embargos, army deployement, etc); but it also grants the USofA responsibilities, which it seems your leaders are not aware of.
FYI: from definition Pocket Oxford Dictionary
seem: v. (often foll. by to + infin.) appear or feel (seems ridiculous). I etc. can't seem to I etc. appear unable to (can't seem to manage it). it seems (or would seem) (often foll. by that) it appears to be the case. [Old Norse]
(I'm french)
actually I would pity the USofA to have to cope with GW Bush another four years. But Hey, you do whatever you want with your country, its future, its health, its economy.
The problem is although some americans seem to think so, you americans do not do whatever you want with the world, the planet.
by "the world" I mean you don't go in a place you know nothing about (<_choose the coutry of your choice and place it here_>) and change whatever you wanna change, may it be governement, economical strategies or whatever;
AND
by "the planet" I mean you don't go on poluting the planet's atmospher 10 times more than any other citizen of the planet without even acknowledging it..
(my first post on /.)
:
/be drunk/ on the street.
/before/ being drunk.
(I'm a french pothead that doesn't drink nor smoke)
I think that you're making a point very VERY important here:
US citizen (as it seems from france) are NOT educated.
I'll make my point
In paris youy are allowed to drink alcool on the street, but are not allowd to
(it's the right opposit in NewYork, or so I've been told)
So in NewYork, you can be completly drunk on the streets, with all the danger that could outcome from such a situation, but there are many restrictions as to where and how yo drink.
on the opposit, in Paris, the legal system take the citiezen as "educated" enough to drink and stop
now, wich one of these two "currents of law" is enlighten?
is it the one that actualy allows the citizen to endanger himself and others, and prohibits him from doing something as harmless as drinking,
or is it the one that lets you drink until your become a danger to yourself or others?
now in the us, you can go to prison for life for selling pot, but can be on the street again after having killed/raped?
those americans that control the country since 2nd world war, are inteligent people, yea right, but their are not into altruism, whereas such control should be held by altruism.
(mind me, with chirac, look who's talking)