I really like Google, their philosophy, and their ethics.
I really and truly dislike deception. Its very common, especially when money is involved for some reason.
To me, I look at "work" simply. Work is getting paid for doing things for people that they appreciate. The more unique or the more quality or quantity of things that you bring to people, the more money you will get.
Much of advertising is deceptive. 99.999% of SPAM is completely deceptive. And personally, it really irritates me. Don't get me started about the snail mail I get with things like "Check enclosed". Grrrr.
At least here in the US, BMW is a very desired car. Many consider it a status symbol. Their slogan here is "The Ultimate Driving Machine". I don't know what their status is in Germany.
Good for Google, bad for BMW. TFA says that Ricoh might be next for delisting. One thing I wish Google would do is get Froogle out of beta, and separate the search results for buying things and having information about things. Believe it or not, when I do a search for a digital camera or some other product, I may want to learn something about the product before I buy it. And yes, I do use Google for searching for something to buy. I've found $2-3 parts to fix things that I simply could not have found at a local store.
I only skimmed the article, so maybe I missed it, but what are taxpayers paying for this system that still will not stop someone from strapping a ring of explosives under their coat?
Its not mentioned how much this costs. But I would imagine that they are not looking for a pipe bomb kinda guy like the one that showed up at the 1996 Olympic games in Atlanta. They are looking under cars and through the crowd for the guy that just got a job from Budweiser that will deliver all of the poisoned beer. Or they might be looking for the Cessna plane that will shower the crowd with antrax. Or the handicapped guy in a wheelchair with the assemble and shoot machine gun.
With all points of possible destruction taken care of with the new "Star Wars" holograms, everybody is assured that the game will be a happy and safe time.
Oh, and the best part is if another bobbie gets revealed, the Homeland Security People will see it in 3d with a depth of +-30"
More importantly, when is this technology going to be consumer affordable? 3d porn with no glasses. Yeah!
I'm amazed you got modded up for this. I agree completely, but that kind of thinking is not popular here on Slashdot.
Regarding this nebulous "Cyber Storm" thing, doesn't the Microsoft worm/virus of the week already give people enough experience? Odds are either a similar kind of attack will be done on the net, or they might just go and cut the fiber.
Personally, all of my international business that I do where I care about the integrity and reliability of the communication is done over a proprietary encrypted satellite uplink to my own satellite.
The best is still a chopper with night vision, so when the perp leaves the car they can be followed. After all, the value is in getting the criminal.
Another Republican ideal. Spend millions of dollars on helicopters with night vision in order to catch a teenager that boosts a car. Oh, and we'll lower your taxes too.
Personally, I believe that legislators should make it a severe felony to evade the police regardless of whatever they are suspected of. Its easy to get a conviction once caught, and maybe the fear of prison will make people think twice about evading the police. As it is now, its not much of a crime, and basically worth the risk of getting caught or killed and/or killing bystanders.
it could well help avoid fatalities in road chases, the police can then hang back and not push too hard on the person they are chasing, this should help take some of the tension out and reduce the risk of the criminals trying something stupid and killing people, police helicopters can then be called in to keep track and the people in the car can be arrested when it stops (or if the tyres are blown out in a safe place)
Yeah, but every time I steal a car and get into a high speed chase with the cops, I outrun them (I steal fast cars) and then ditch the car on the side of the road.
In other words, you have to tag the _person_, not the car. Also, don't most cars have license plates on them already? I don't see where a GPS tag will do much more than a license plate.
On a related note, I overheard someone talking this morning about how they were pulled over by the police while driving a rental car, and the cop addressed him by name. He had already ran the plates and found out the driver of the car before talking with the guy.
This crap terrifies me (aka terrorism), and I'm going to rent my car from a phony business that I'm going to start with a foreign "owner" of the company. I simply do not feel safe on the roads anymore driving a car that is registered in my name.
I almost can't wait for Google's facade of goodness to slip. They're just like any other large company who are more concerned about their stock price and making money - than about taking care of their end-users. For example, they still don't have an email service that isn't plastered with advertising (even for a small fee) - which ought to be a clue that they're an advertising company first, functionality is secondary. If Google went dark tomorrow the extent would be to click Firefox over to using Teoma or Yahoo as the default search engine. I'd barely notice. As reluctant I am to admit it, Yahoo is still the single most important suite of web services to me, and I'd be lost without it (if I was stranded on a desert island and could only pick one website to bring with me, Yahoo would be it). (And now that I think about it, I wonder how many of these "Google is doing X" posts are purely to try and keep their stock price artificially inflated.)
Where did you get this information, or did you make it up?
I have heard nothing from Google employees about them caring about their stock price, and I posted this yesterday:
"The funny thing is that Google's owners and employees are probably the least concerned with their profits. Sergey that is one of the original two founders of the company works for a $1/year, drives a lavish Toyota Prius, lives in a small apartment, usually wears blue jeans, and is _personally_ worth $7 to $11 billion dollars."
Oh, and you want to compare Google's ads to any other company on the net? Take a look at the plain text ads, then go to any other website, including Yahoo!, and get dizzy from the animated gifs and/or flash ads. Oh, and while your at it, check out Google's philosophy:
I have not heard, nor seen any deviation from those 10 things, and I've never seen annoying ads on any of Google's services. Aside from the daily free ads that Slashdot gives Google, I've never heard some goofball yodeling "Google!" on TV, but have that for Yahoo!
I will simplify it the best I can- Google's profits were pretty good. But they weren't as good as some analysts _projected_
So, in other words Google's inflated stock price fell down temporarily because someone outside of their company screwed up in projecting their profits.
The funny thing is that Google's owners and employees are probably the least concerned with their profits. Sergey that is one of the original two founders of the company works for a $1/year, drives a lavish Toyota Prius, lives in a small apartment, usually wears blue jeans, and is _personally_ worth $7 to $11 billion dollars.
Do you think someone like that really cares about the profits Google makes? Worst case scenario is that Google gets succumbed into the corporate greed of its stockholders, he sells all of his shares and starts a new company, or even worse, he just takes the rest of his 30 to 70 years of his life off from work and just plays around.
The OP's point was they were criminals who knew what they were doing was wrong and had serious concequences if they were caught, but chose to continue doing it.
FWIW, I heard a preacher say that it was unAmerican for an inner city youth to work at McDonald's at minimum wage vs making thousands a week being industrious and selling crack on the street.
Basic desires, economics, and supply and demand will always supersede any manmade laws. Basic desires, economics, and supply and demand are constants, the law is subject to change at any given time.
The first 13 submarine riders drowned immediately, and were happy!
I believe that we can go to the moon in 2 years starting now. Yes, I'm starting a new flamewar. Hell, Branson could probably do it in 1 if he was motivated enough.
Let's assume for a moment that the average lifetime of one hard disk in this petabyte array is 6.5 years. Since there are 2,400 hard drives, that means that once this thing has been running for a while, you will be replacing, on average, one broken hard drive per day, for the entire lifetime of the array. That's about $350 per day in replacement parts alone!
Good math!
However, for a cool $4mil, hopefully this would include some kind of drive replacement program. With those raw numbers, a drive a day would cost on average of $127,750/year. Not including the power and the goon to replace the drives.
Who knows? I just retired my NetApp because $50k for a nonexpandable storage system that is less than 1/2 TB is stupid for me to justify. I would be more than happy with a petabox.
The I/O performance of a petabox is just *slightly* lower than a DMX-3.
Are you being facetious here? Any details?
Keep in mind that these are two very different beasts here. The petabox is one rack, the EMC "box" is 9 racks. More drives always gives you better performance. I'd be happy with a petabox for my music and porn. That would serve me fine for a couple of years.
My point was that this is being _advertised_ as something new. Being that most slashdotters are still in their mother's basements trying to get Linux to run their PIIs and PIIIs "fast", I doubt that this box is anything that they would know what to do with over a petabox.
really bugs me when people complain about how the first time we went to the moon it took less than 10 years from Kennedy's speech and now it takes us 13 years, or worse, that it's taking us half a century to return to the moon. Well read his answer and shutup!
People keep asking me 'Why are you taking until 2018 or whatever it takes us to get back to the moon when we did it in eight years the first time?' The reason is that we're not being given the kind of money necessary to do that in eight years, but we are being given the kind of money necessary to do that in 12, 13, 14 years.
I still call bullshit. You mean to tell me that since 1969 we have learned nothing about rockets, material science, or space flight? I would bet that the extra 13+ years of salaries of all of the NASA engineers costs more than the materials to just do it today with what we know.
In the eyes of the layman, science has been dead for quite some time. I'm not saying we can't still use the scientific method. I certainly will, its the best way of learning and doing things that I know of (science has not ended dangling prepositions:). But we know absolute zero, the speed of light, how to put a man on the moon, how to land on Mars, how to go beyond our solar system and still receive communications. What more is there to really do? Bare with me, I know I'm burning my karma on a few nerds here.
There is little that is new or interesting that a layman can talk about science today. The only frontier is really science to make better entertainment for people to include CSI kinda stuff. "Normal" people simply don't care about particle physics. Sorry. Normal people got bored with going to the moon back in the 70s. Normal people stopped caring about the space shuttle after the 2nd or 3rd launch, and only gained interest when they started blowing up (car wreck phenomenon).
Seriously, what is really new to discover? A list of one or more things would be suffice to justify my flamebait mods.
Yeah, I was going to comment on that quote as well.
So, its clear that there are no gentlemen in politics, right?
At least by his understanding, but he politely does what the President and Congress tells him to do. Which President is adamant against same sex marriages? What laws are their against consenting adults doing what they want in their homes (regarding sex)?
I believe this qualifies as an attempt at a technical solution to a social (or political) problem -- one of those things that usually doesn't work.
Yes it does. Basic animal learning suggests very strongly 1) reinforcement happens near a behavior. Sociology gives us N+1 basic animals.
If congress critter A, changes web page X, and he cannot do more than a couple lines of changes in a 24 hour to 7 day period, and other people can make the edits, the congress critter would have to collude with a number of other congress critter persons or sympathizers to "win".
The same goes with feedback on eBay. But they still have that, and people go by it right?
So are plenty of porn stars. Asia Carrera (sp??) and one of the newer seemingly bimbo chicks (very hot pornstar!!! I can't remember her name, but she was on HBO recently) and many others have over 140 IQs and/or are mensa types.
this or this or this does not classify as a hottie in my book. She is only 34 now, and looks average at best for her age, and has access to good healthcare and plastic surgery, and that is the best she can do? Bah.
That, and I seem to trust lunatics over "normal" people, regardless of the phase of the moon or its involvement at all.
Plus, many think I'm a lunatic, yet I get modded up on slashdot all the time. This could be the new era of the lunatic. From a silly album that came out in January of 1973:
The lunatic is in my head The lunatic is in my head You raise the blade, you make the change You re-arrange me 'till I'm sane You lock the door And throw away the key There's someone in my head but it's not me.
Its always "you" and "they" that screw with us lunatics. Odds are we would be fine without your compassion, labeling, or help.
And now Congress will vote to make freely-editable online encyclopedias illegal. Freedom of speech loses in a landslide.
Although it is becoming more the norm to go against the constitution, I believe the system will prevail or there will be a revolution and government overthrow.
How long did it take for the Supreme Court to figure out that black people and women were people? A long time, but it did eventually take place.
Or perhaps we can come to an agreement where no one edits other entries for the purpose of skewing information. That would make me smile.
Wikipedia will always have issues like this, especially with "controversial" content.
"There's no right, there's no wrong, there's only popular opinion."
-- Jeffrey Goines, 12 Monkeys
Popular opinion always rules. Maybe the Wikipedia code can be modified so that a "hot" article can only have X lines of changes per user per period of time. If congressman X edits a file and others are watching, the others will dominate and keep the popular opinion alive.
But in the same sentence the author does explicitly state that Asperger's is "one of the disorders on the autistic spectrum."
Milk is also the gateway drug for all heroin addicts. That is a joke, I do not believe in gateway drugs, but its still applicable and I think funny:)
It may not fall under the clinical definition of autism
Actually, I do not believe that autism is clinically defined. If anyone can find an peer reviewed and accepted definition, let me know. AFAIK, it is not in the DSM-IV, and is kind of a nebulous whatever. I'm not clear if its a birth defect or psychiatric problem or what. It is not learned, the onset is too soon and severity is too great.
So for the "milder" cases of autism, the ones in which the children are quite likely to lead self-sufficient lives (a friend's daughter with Asperger's syndrome comes to mind) isn't it a valid hypothesis that these kids would have been correctly diagnosed, while similar kids in an impoverished (or even "average") areas would have just been labeled "troublemakers" or perhaps misdiagnosed with ADHD and given ritalin?
I've worked with autistic children, but personally know of no "milder" cases. Even the Rainman guy was not an accurate depiction of an autistic person, but more like an idiot savant, some autism, and other stuff to make the movie more interesting.
Autism is very disabilitating in our society. It is simply difficult for them to do things for other people so that they can make money. It is next to impossible for them to reproduce.
They are very self-centered, and their brains get reinforced by different stimuli than others. They have little to no empathy. They do self-stimulating (sometimes destructively) rituals that are almost impossible to reduce the intrinsic positive value that they have on the individual. I knew one autistic kid that would walk on its tippy toes to the point of damaging his calf muscle. I've known another kid that like to screech at the top of his lungs, and liked few "normal" stimuli aside from skittles and bouncing on the bed or trampoline. We were working on the Lovas behavioral techniques at socializing the kid, but after years getting him to work on a puzzle or something with the reward of some skittles or bouncing on the bed was the best that he got.
ADD, ADHD, and Asberger's syndrome are separate from autism. Asberger's syndrome is similar and has overlaps to a degree with autism, but I know of no autistic person that is "normal". When taking abnormal psychology in school the teacher defined "normal" as a person that can maintain a residence and provide basics like food of their own. Asverger's people can do this. ADD and ADHD can do this, autistics cannot as far as any that I have met or heard of.
I really like Google, their philosophy, and their ethics.
I really and truly dislike deception. Its very common, especially when money is involved for some reason.
To me, I look at "work" simply. Work is getting paid for doing things for people that they appreciate. The more unique or the more quality or quantity of things that you bring to people, the more money you will get.
Much of advertising is deceptive. 99.999% of SPAM is completely deceptive. And personally, it really irritates me. Don't get me started about the snail mail I get with things like "Check enclosed". Grrrr.
At least here in the US, BMW is a very desired car. Many consider it a status symbol. Their slogan here is "The Ultimate Driving Machine". I don't know what their status is in Germany.
Good for Google, bad for BMW. TFA says that Ricoh might be next for delisting. One thing I wish Google would do is get Froogle out of beta, and separate the search results for buying things and having information about things. Believe it or not, when I do a search for a digital camera or some other product, I may want to learn something about the product before I buy it. And yes, I do use Google for searching for something to buy. I've found $2-3 parts to fix things that I simply could not have found at a local store.
I was overly defensive.
:)
Scary, coming from a person with a cosmetic lobotomy
Sorry, I thought my sarcasm was more clear.
I only skimmed the article, so maybe I missed it, but what are taxpayers paying for this system that still will not stop someone from strapping a ring of explosives under their coat?
Its not mentioned how much this costs. But I would imagine that they are not looking for a pipe bomb kinda guy like the one that showed up at the 1996 Olympic games in Atlanta. They are looking under cars and through the crowd for the guy that just got a job from Budweiser that will deliver all of the poisoned beer. Or they might be looking for the Cessna plane that will shower the crowd with antrax. Or the handicapped guy in a wheelchair with the assemble and shoot machine gun.
With all points of possible destruction taken care of with the new "Star Wars" holograms, everybody is assured that the game will be a happy and safe time.
Oh, and the best part is if another bobbie gets revealed, the Homeland Security People will see it in 3d with a depth of +-30"
More importantly, when is this technology going to be consumer affordable? 3d porn with no glasses. Yeah!
I'm amazed you got modded up for this. I agree completely, but that kind of thinking is not popular here on Slashdot.
Regarding this nebulous "Cyber Storm" thing, doesn't the Microsoft worm/virus of the week already give people enough experience? Odds are either a similar kind of attack will be done on the net, or they might just go and cut the fiber.
Personally, all of my international business that I do where I care about the integrity and reliability of the communication is done over a proprietary encrypted satellite uplink to my own satellite.
Isn't that what everybody does?
The best is still a chopper with night vision, so when the perp leaves the car they can be followed. After all, the value is in getting the criminal.
Another Republican ideal. Spend millions of dollars on helicopters with night vision in order to catch a teenager that boosts a car. Oh, and we'll lower your taxes too.
Personally, I believe that legislators should make it a severe felony to evade the police regardless of whatever they are suspected of. Its easy to get a conviction once caught, and maybe the fear of prison will make people think twice about evading the police. As it is now, its not much of a crime, and basically worth the risk of getting caught or killed and/or killing bystanders.
it could well help avoid fatalities in road chases, the police can then hang back and not push too hard on the person they are chasing, this should help take some of the tension out and reduce the risk of the criminals trying something stupid and killing people, police helicopters can then be called in to keep track and the people in the car can be arrested when it stops (or if the tyres are blown out in a safe place)
Yeah, but every time I steal a car and get into a high speed chase with the cops, I outrun them (I steal fast cars) and then ditch the car on the side of the road.
In other words, you have to tag the _person_, not the car. Also, don't most cars have license plates on them already? I don't see where a GPS tag will do much more than a license plate.
On a related note, I overheard someone talking this morning about how they were pulled over by the police while driving a rental car, and the cop addressed him by name. He had already ran the plates and found out the driver of the car before talking with the guy.
This crap terrifies me (aka terrorism), and I'm going to rent my car from a phony business that I'm going to start with a foreign "owner" of the company. I simply do not feel safe on the roads anymore driving a car that is registered in my name.
Does it make Sergey somehow a good man by doing those things, while being enormously rich?
Yes. Its called modesty. Its something that few Americans know anything about. But then again he's Russian.
I almost can't wait for Google's facade of goodness to slip. They're just like any other large company who are more concerned about their stock price and making money - than about taking care of their end-users. For example, they still don't have an email service that isn't plastered with advertising (even for a small fee) - which ought to be a clue that they're an advertising company first, functionality is secondary. If Google went dark tomorrow the extent would be to click Firefox over to using Teoma or Yahoo as the default search engine. I'd barely notice. As reluctant I am to admit it, Yahoo is still the single most important suite of web services to me, and I'd be lost without it (if I was stranded on a desert island and could only pick one website to bring with me, Yahoo would be it). (And now that I think about it, I wonder how many of these "Google is doing X" posts are purely to try and keep their stock price artificially inflated.)
Where did you get this information, or did you make it up?
I have heard nothing from Google employees about them caring about their stock price, and I posted this yesterday:
"The funny thing is that Google's owners and employees are probably the least concerned with their profits. Sergey that is one of the original two founders of the company works for a $1/year, drives a lavish Toyota Prius, lives in a small apartment, usually wears blue jeans, and is _personally_ worth $7 to $11 billion dollars."
Oh, and you want to compare Google's ads to any other company on the net? Take a look at the plain text ads, then go to any other website, including Yahoo!, and get dizzy from the animated gifs and/or flash ads. Oh, and while your at it, check out Google's philosophy:
http://www.google.com/corporate/tenthings.html
I have not heard, nor seen any deviation from those 10 things, and I've never seen annoying ads on any of Google's services. Aside from the daily free ads that Slashdot gives Google, I've never heard some goofball yodeling "Google!" on TV, but have that for Yahoo!
Nice troll.
I will simplify it the best I can- Google's profits were pretty good. But they weren't as good as some analysts _projected_
So, in other words Google's inflated stock price fell down temporarily because someone outside of their company screwed up in projecting their profits.
The funny thing is that Google's owners and employees are probably the least concerned with their profits. Sergey that is one of the original two founders of the company works for a $1/year, drives a lavish Toyota Prius, lives in a small apartment, usually wears blue jeans, and is _personally_ worth $7 to $11 billion dollars.
Do you think someone like that really cares about the profits Google makes? Worst case scenario is that Google gets succumbed into the corporate greed of its stockholders, he sells all of his shares and starts a new company, or even worse, he just takes the rest of his 30 to 70 years of his life off from work and just plays around.
The OP's point was they were criminals who knew what they were doing was wrong and had serious concequences if they were caught, but chose to continue doing it.
FWIW, I heard a preacher say that it was unAmerican for an inner city youth to work at McDonald's at minimum wage vs making thousands a week being industrious and selling crack on the street.
Basic desires, economics, and supply and demand will always supersede any manmade laws. Basic desires, economics, and supply and demand are constants, the law is subject to change at any given time.
Bathtub model.
'nuff said.
The first 13 submarine riders drowned immediately, and were happy!
I believe that we can go to the moon in 2 years starting now. Yes, I'm starting a new flamewar. Hell, Branson could probably do it in 1 if he was motivated enough.
Let's assume for a moment that the average lifetime of one hard disk in this petabyte array is 6.5 years. Since there are 2,400 hard drives, that means that once this thing has been running for a while, you will be replacing, on average, one broken hard drive per day, for the entire lifetime of the array. That's about $350 per day in replacement parts alone!
Good math!
However, for a cool $4mil, hopefully this would include some kind of drive replacement program. With those raw numbers, a drive a day would cost on average of $127,750/year. Not including the power and the goon to replace the drives.
Who knows? I just retired my NetApp because $50k for a nonexpandable storage system that is less than 1/2 TB is stupid for me to justify. I would be more than happy with a petabox.
The I/O performance of a petabox is just *slightly* lower than a DMX-3.
Are you being facetious here? Any details?
Keep in mind that these are two very different beasts here. The petabox is one rack, the EMC "box" is 9 racks. More drives always gives you better performance. I'd be happy with a petabox for my music and porn. That would serve me fine for a couple of years.
My point was that this is being _advertised_ as something new. Being that most slashdotters are still in their mother's basements trying to get Linux to run their PIIs and PIIIs "fast", I doubt that this box is anything that they would know what to do with over a petabox.
What happened to the day when it was more important to be right and honest than to sell tons of books/magazines/newspapers?
That day was way before we sold tons of books/magazines/newspapers.
Greed supersedes all lesser sins or higher morals.
http://www.archive.org/web/petabox.php
By those who truly care about the human tradition, and spreading the music of the Grateful Dead and other freely available media.
Is this another slashvertisement?
In the eyes of the layman, science has been dead for quite some time. I'm not saying we can't still use the scientific method. I certainly will, its the best way of learning and doing things that I know of (science has not ended dangling prepositions:). But we know absolute zero, the speed of light, how to put a man on the moon, how to land on Mars, how to go beyond our solar system and still receive communications. What more is there to really do? Bare with me, I know I'm burning my karma on a few nerds here.
There is little that is new or interesting that a layman can talk about science today. The only frontier is really science to make better entertainment for people to include CSI kinda stuff. "Normal" people simply don't care about particle physics. Sorry. Normal people got bored with going to the moon back in the 70s. Normal people stopped caring about the space shuttle after the 2nd or 3rd launch, and only gained interest when they started blowing up (car wreck phenomenon).
Seriously, what is really new to discover? A list of one or more things would be suffice to justify my flamebait mods.
Yeah, I was going to comment on that quote as well.
So, its clear that there are no gentlemen in politics, right?
At least by his understanding, but he politely does what the President and Congress tells him to do. Which President is adamant against same sex marriages? What laws are their against consenting adults doing what they want in their homes (regarding sex)?
I believe this qualifies as an attempt at a technical solution to a social (or political) problem -- one of those things that usually doesn't work.
Yes it does. Basic animal learning suggests very strongly 1) reinforcement happens near a behavior. Sociology gives us N+1 basic animals.
If congress critter A, changes web page X, and he cannot do more than a couple lines of changes in a 24 hour to 7 day period, and other people can make the edits, the congress critter would have to collude with a number of other congress critter persons or sympathizers to "win".
The same goes with feedback on eBay. But they still have that, and people go by it right?
Christina Applegate is a mensa genious
So are plenty of porn stars. Asia Carrera (sp??) and one of the newer seemingly bimbo chicks (very hot pornstar!!! I can't remember her name, but she was on HBO recently) and many others have over 140 IQs and/or are mensa types.
this or this or this does not classify as a hottie in my book. She is only 34 now, and looks average at best for her age, and has access to good healthcare and plastic surgery, and that is the best she can do? Bah.
That's just your opinion ;-)
That, and I seem to trust lunatics over "normal" people, regardless of the phase of the moon or its involvement at all.
Plus, many think I'm a lunatic, yet I get modded up on slashdot all the time. This could be the new era of the lunatic. From a silly album that came out in January of 1973:
The lunatic is in my head
The lunatic is in my head
You raise the blade, you make the change
You re-arrange me 'till I'm sane
You lock the door
And throw away the key
There's someone in my head but it's not me.
Its always "you" and "they" that screw with us lunatics. Odds are we would be fine without your compassion, labeling, or help.
And now Congress will vote to make freely-editable online encyclopedias illegal. Freedom of speech loses in a landslide.
Although it is becoming more the norm to go against the constitution, I believe the system will prevail or there will be a revolution and government overthrow.
How long did it take for the Supreme Court to figure out that black people and women were people? A long time, but it did eventually take place.
Or perhaps we can come to an agreement where no one edits other entries for the purpose of skewing information. That would make me smile.
Wikipedia will always have issues like this, especially with "controversial" content.
"There's no right, there's no wrong, there's only popular opinion."
-- Jeffrey Goines, 12 Monkeys
Popular opinion always rules. Maybe the Wikipedia code can be modified so that a "hot" article can only have X lines of changes per user per period of time. If congressman X edits a file and others are watching, the others will dominate and keep the popular opinion alive.
But in the same sentence the author does explicitly state that Asperger's is "one of the disorders on the autistic spectrum."
:)
Milk is also the gateway drug for all heroin addicts. That is a joke, I do not believe in gateway drugs, but its still applicable and I think funny
It may not fall under the clinical definition of autism
Actually, I do not believe that autism is clinically defined. If anyone can find an peer reviewed and accepted definition, let me know. AFAIK, it is not in the DSM-IV, and is kind of a nebulous whatever. I'm not clear if its a birth defect or psychiatric problem or what. It is not learned, the onset is too soon and severity is too great.
So for the "milder" cases of autism, the ones in which the children are quite likely to lead self-sufficient lives (a friend's daughter with Asperger's syndrome comes to mind) isn't it a valid hypothesis that these kids would have been correctly diagnosed, while similar kids in an impoverished (or even "average") areas would have just been labeled "troublemakers" or perhaps misdiagnosed with ADHD and given ritalin?
I've worked with autistic children, but personally know of no "milder" cases. Even the Rainman guy was not an accurate depiction of an autistic person, but more like an idiot savant, some autism, and other stuff to make the movie more interesting.
Autism is very disabilitating in our society. It is simply difficult for them to do things for other people so that they can make money. It is next to impossible for them to reproduce.
They are very self-centered, and their brains get reinforced by different stimuli than others. They have little to no empathy. They do self-stimulating (sometimes destructively) rituals that are almost impossible to reduce the intrinsic positive value that they have on the individual. I knew one autistic kid that would walk on its tippy toes to the point of damaging his calf muscle. I've known another kid that like to screech at the top of his lungs, and liked few "normal" stimuli aside from skittles and bouncing on the bed or trampoline. We were working on the Lovas behavioral techniques at socializing the kid, but after years getting him to work on a puzzle or something with the reward of some skittles or bouncing on the bed was the best that he got.
ADD, ADHD, and Asberger's syndrome are separate from autism. Asberger's syndrome is similar and has overlaps to a degree with autism, but I know of no autistic person that is "normal". When taking abnormal psychology in school the teacher defined "normal" as a person that can maintain a residence and provide basics like food of their own. Asverger's people can do this. ADD and ADHD can do this, autistics cannot as far as any that I have met or heard of.