nope, unfortunately i havent be able to leave..but it wouldnt work, as there is no 3G infastructure outside this island (as far as i know)..like you said, its just a test bed and im a guinea pig:)
The article in the Economist is(in my eyes) misleading and holds false information..'why?' you ask..well since I own a 3G Phone myself, and have done for almost a year now..I can safely say, that yes..Asia is pretty much leading the field..but if there was a second place prize..it would be given to my local telecoms company.
This is their little page about the 3G network on the Island I live on. Owning a 3G, and using it day in day out, I can make a fair assessment that the technology is limited at the moment, it's still all a bit of a novelty..the handsets hold little or pointless functionality, and it only comes into its own when u plug the little thing into a USB port on a laptop/desktop. At that point, u get a broadband connection on a mobile device..I'm sure as time goes on, and technology evolves..so too will the handsets, but the main issue for 3G at the moment is that no manufacturer wants to produce 3G phones. This is due to the fact that even on a global scale..3G is relatively unheard of, and it all comes down to the old supply-and-demand..there is no point in making what people don't really want.
The US attitude is probably right at this moment, because 3G is nothing more than a toy..until it begins to get some fundamental uses rather than just to 'look cool' then its gauranteed to be successful..but at the moment..the 3G Flag flies with Asia:)
Ok, isnt Microsoft getting a little defence of their products now? I mean, are they beginning to fear the competition and get a grasp on the market that is perhaps to steal their thunder in the future? After the recent comments in the MS Halloween reports, perhaps this is part of their backlash on the alternative OS market?!
Also, people that believe a product named 'Windows Commander' or similiar, is an official product produced by Microsoft..are obviously misguided. What company in the world but Microsoft are foolish enough to try and enforce the fact that 'Windows' is their trademark, instead of encapsulating the whole of 'Microsoft Windows'?!
It's the same principle as 'Coke-Cola' trying to register the word 'Cola' as a trademark. Now many companies and their 'spin-off' products use the word 'Cola' in their product. The fact is, Microsoft have pushed their product onto the public with a big fat sticker saying..'Microsoft Windows' and not 'Windows'.
If Microsoft were intelligent enough to understand they do *not* own computers, they do *not* own developers..infact, they own very little...their user base is falling, and the only reason they have even half of the users they currently do, is through the process of pirate software, I do not know one person outside of a company that is worried about licensing issues, that has actually purchased a MS license for anything. This being the case, Microsoft should stop targetting businesses and developers and work along side the very people that keep them from sinking.
Well I guess im off to trademark the words 'Word', 'Excel', 'Money', etc..hey, by the end of this..ill just trademark the whole of the English language! and when I'm not happy, ill move on to foreign languages..including computer languages such as C/C++ and i shall call it C#! GENIUS!
heh you come out with some shit "running your own irc network" more like u played with an ircd once and it made you feel horny.
ircops are just people, they deserve all the bullshit they get bcoz they think they are "godly" they should try and keep their userbase instead of glining someone that says something they dislike. they need to grow up and understand irc is a place for free speech and they shouldnt interfer, this is why they suffer bcoz they are arrogant assholes.
the more they continue to be this way, the more people will dislike them and of course, attack them..in my view, good ridance to Undernet, its turned into a joke.
heh ok lets stop with the 1) 2) 3) shits coz its annoying:/
you obviously dont know how an irc network should be run, Undernet ircops dont know what the hell they are doing, i have been glined for some stupid shit like taking over my OWN channel, trying to steal my OWN bots, oh and also "compromising" my own box to abuse Undernet.
and mm..i dont go to school so heh i guess im perm suspended, police rock they got nice guns, and get your skanky funkin hand off my head:)
oooook lets not get "formal" about this.
1) Yes english is my first language, but i dont have to be correct to satisfy you.
2) There is NO proof its linuxsex, just a bunch of rumours made up by ircops
3) Yes IRCOps are there for a reason, but unfortunately for Undernet they are a bunch of cowboys who dont know what they are doing.
4) Make an account
5) Are your pokebonk? Travis Haymour?
heh i lub u pokey
hey you fuckin retard, your should do some research before you start blaming linuxsex, use a bit of your brain before u start flaming people.
It could be anyone with a grudge against undernet and im sure there are loads of people out there that have had enough of this bullshit irc network and retarded opers.
I see your an "Anonymous Coward" becoz ur too chicken shit to mouth off without taking consequences.
Think before you talk.
Ok, i been on undernet for a few years now, all i can say is i have seen the undernet irc operators turn into bigger assholes each day. They G-Line anybody for stupid reasons, they think they can do what they like to anyone. This is where people retaliation coz they have had enough bullshit from these stupid pricks for too long.
If the Undernet comitee actually took a look how the IRCOps handle situations, then they would understand these attacks.
Also to point out that the Undernet opers also DoS or packet users and other networks - one particular culprit is pokebonk, who is a known child molesterer and takes his pain out on my friends:((
I hope undernet goes down, or the ircops piss off and get replaced with someone with some common sense. As soon as the IRCOps grow up and stop taking it so damn seriously the attacks will probably stop. heh:)
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nope, unfortunately i havent be able to leave..but it wouldnt work, as there is no 3G infastructure outside this island (as far as i know)..like you said, its just a test bed and im a guinea pig :)
The article in the Economist is(in my eyes) misleading and holds false information..'why?' you ask..well since I own a 3G Phone myself, and have done for almost a year now..I can safely say, that yes..Asia is pretty much leading the field..but if there was a second place prize..it would be given to my local telecoms company.
:)
This is their little page about the 3G network on the Island I live on. Owning a 3G, and using it day in day out, I can make a fair assessment that the technology is limited at the moment, it's still all a bit of a novelty..the handsets hold little or pointless functionality, and it only comes into its own when u plug the little thing into a USB port on a laptop/desktop. At that point, u get a broadband connection on a mobile device..I'm sure as time goes on, and technology evolves..so too will the handsets, but the main issue for 3G at the moment is that no manufacturer wants to produce 3G phones. This is due to the fact that even on a global scale..3G is relatively unheard of, and it all comes down to the old supply-and-demand..there is no point in making what people don't really want.
The US attitude is probably right at this moment, because 3G is nothing more than a toy..until it begins to get some fundamental uses rather than just to 'look cool' then its gauranteed to be successful..but at the moment..the 3G Flag flies with Asia
Ok, isnt Microsoft getting a little defence of their products now? I mean, are they beginning to fear the competition and get a grasp on the market that is perhaps to steal their thunder in the future? After the recent comments in the MS Halloween reports, perhaps this is part of their backlash on the alternative OS market?!
Also, people that believe a product named 'Windows Commander' or similiar, is an official product produced by Microsoft..are obviously misguided. What company in the world but Microsoft are foolish enough to try and enforce the fact that 'Windows' is their trademark, instead of encapsulating the whole of 'Microsoft Windows'?!
It's the same principle as 'Coke-Cola' trying to register the word 'Cola' as a trademark. Now many companies and their 'spin-off' products use the word 'Cola' in their product. The fact is, Microsoft have pushed their product onto the public with a big fat sticker saying..'Microsoft Windows' and not 'Windows'.
If Microsoft were intelligent enough to understand they do *not* own computers, they do *not* own developers..infact, they own very little...their user base is falling, and the only reason they have even half of the users they currently do, is through the process of pirate software, I do not know one person outside of a company that is worried about licensing issues, that has actually purchased a MS license for anything. This being the case, Microsoft should stop targetting businesses and developers and work along side the very people that keep them from sinking.
Well I guess im off to trademark the words 'Word', 'Excel', 'Money', etc..hey, by the end of this..ill just trademark the whole of the English language! and when I'm not happy, ill move on to foreign languages..including computer languages such as C/C++ and i shall call it C#! GENIUS!
In response to the php support (and other languages) for sap-db I think this page should suffice most :]
heh you come out with some shit "running your own irc network" more like u played with an ircd once and it made you feel horny.
ircops are just people, they deserve all the bullshit they get bcoz they think they are "godly" they should try and keep their userbase instead of glining someone that says something they dislike. they need to grow up and understand irc is a place for free speech and they shouldnt interfer, this is why they suffer bcoz they are arrogant assholes.
the more they continue to be this way, the more people will dislike them and of course, attack them..in my view, good ridance to Undernet, its turned into a joke.
pokebonk can have anyone under 10 years old, watch out kiddies >:)
heh ok lets stop with the 1) 2) 3) shits coz its annoying :/
you obviously dont know how an irc network should be run, Undernet ircops dont know what the hell they are doing, i have been glined for some stupid shit like taking over my OWN channel, trying to steal my OWN bots, oh and also "compromising" my own box to abuse Undernet.
and mm..i dont go to school so heh i guess im perm suspended, police rock they got nice guns, and get your skanky funkin hand off my head :)
oooook lets not get "formal" about this. 1) Yes english is my first language, but i dont have to be correct to satisfy you. 2) There is NO proof its linuxsex, just a bunch of rumours made up by ircops 3) Yes IRCOps are there for a reason, but unfortunately for Undernet they are a bunch of cowboys who dont know what they are doing. 4) Make an account 5) Are your pokebonk? Travis Haymour? heh i lub u pokey
hey you fuckin retard, your should do some research before you start blaming linuxsex, use a bit of your brain before u start flaming people. It could be anyone with a grudge against undernet and im sure there are loads of people out there that have had enough of this bullshit irc network and retarded opers. I see your an "Anonymous Coward" becoz ur too chicken shit to mouth off without taking consequences. Think before you talk.
couldnt agree more :)
Ok, i been on undernet for a few years now, all i can say is i have seen the undernet irc operators turn into bigger assholes each day. They G-Line anybody for stupid reasons, they think they can do what they like to anyone. This is where people retaliation coz they have had enough bullshit from these stupid pricks for too long. If the Undernet comitee actually took a look how the IRCOps handle situations, then they would understand these attacks. Also to point out that the Undernet opers also DoS or packet users and other networks - one particular culprit is pokebonk, who is a known child molesterer and takes his pain out on my friends :((
I hope undernet goes down, or the ircops piss off and get replaced with someone with some common sense. As soon as the IRCOps grow up and stop taking it so damn seriously the attacks will probably stop. heh :)