Google Glass isn't recording everything all the time. You have to tell it to. And it only has the battery life to do that for about 3 hours.
You talk about obvious, but what about hidden cameras? What about cellphones (like the one that caught Romney being himself)? It seems to me that GG is more above board than what is already out there.
[You didn't answer my question about social acceptance, so I guess that part of our convo is a dead end.]
Because people who refuse to vote Republicrat magically will if their preferred 3rd party candidate drops out.
You truly don't understand the situation. Those of us that vote 3rd party aren't doing so because suddenly there is ONE 3rd party candidate we like, we are doing so because we know there is no viable future of an America led by either Republicans or Democrats, and that to vote for either of those parties is the only true way to waste a vote - It is a vote to make the country worse (which Obama did, just like Bush(es), just like Reagan, and to a much lesser extent just like Clinton).
Our preferred candidate dropping out will just make us vote for a different 3rd party candidate.
And that's actually the exact story of how I voted in 2008.
Only place I've seen a public toilet is: courtroom, parks, public-funded stadium. A toilet in a restaurant is not public. A restaurant is not owned by the public. We're talking about the legal definition of public/private, not the colloquial.
Yes, the government snooping on you is way more constructive. *rolls eyes*
Yes, anyone taking a photo posts it to facebook. *rolls eyes*
That's part of the rub that annoys me with peoples' attitudes about this. When the government surveils you in a way that the entire institution of government has access to, it's okay. If a person posts you to his facebook where 5 other friends might see a thumbnail scroll by, and maybe one will click through and leave a comment.... THE SKY IS FALLING ZOMG PRIVACY VIOLATION. It seems very incongruous to me.
You're equivocating "publish" with "publish for money", but yes. Things are more nuanced if you go into the details more. Being able to publish for money has [somewhat] little to do with being able to record/photograph for yourself.
Last I checked, Oregon had to pass a law (in the past couple of years) specifically prohibiting upskirt photographs because, specifically, you are wrong. Google it if you don't believe me.
You might want to tell Jennifer Anniston about the privacy she was supposed to have when her nude sunbathing photos were taken from outside her yard. No legal fucks were given on her behalf.
So why do you not have the same backlash against camcorders? Or cell phones that can record video? Or Go Pro cameras? Or cameras in general, since most cameras can record video nowadays. (Or perhaps I should ask about social acceptance instead of backlash.)
At one time it was socially unacceptable to be seen dating someone of another race, or to breastfeed, or to kiss the same sex. Is not social acceptance just another form of Tyranny Of The Majority?
I agree, but if we live by the rules of the stupid, then we would not be permitted to leave the house without wearing a helmet. Bad apples doing something with X is no reason to disallow X. I see the same mentality with drugs, guns, and now 3-D printers (And GG).
Airline pilots already use cellphones. I'm tired of anti-GG arguments that are just anti-cellphone or anti-camera arguments. You need to come up with an argument that applies to GG and not to cellphones or cameras (or iPads), or else your device is anti all-portable-devices, and not anti-gg.
If people would at least be honest that that is what their argument is, I'd be more inclined to agree with them. I've wanted a cellphone jammer for movie nights at my place for a reason...
Your GG arguments apply to cameras as well. They are not new arguments. They are not GG arguments. They are camera arguments. I'd moderate it off topic if I were a mod.
Cameras are not allowed in many businesses. Including the secure facility I sometimes visit. Your business examples are just that: camera examples. They are not GG examples.
ATMs are on private property, and I am right. You are wrong. There are some public places with specific exceptions carved out: Like a bathroom at a public campground. But the fact of the matter is, an individual in public has no expectation of privacy, by law, by precedent, and by statute.
Everything non-U.S. I don't care about and am not willing to discuss. I live in the U.S.. The laws of other countries do not affect my opinions because they do not apply to me.
By definition, an ability that requires a mobile computing device would be something superhuman.
Calling people on a cellphone is something you cannot do without an assisted advice. It is superhuman. Normal humans can't have conversations with people 1000 miles away.
Uh, no. A gym is a privately owned establishment. It is not public unless it is a taxpayer-funded gym owned by the governemtn. A bathroom is inside of a privately-owned establishment. The exception would be a public building like a courthouse. No clue what the law is there, but I'm thinking, since people get arrested for cameras in bathrooms, and this is easily googleable, that there are laws against that. Specific laws for specific situations.
Anyway, you need to understand what words mean before you try to use them. "Public" in the context of "public toilet" is not the same as "public" in the context of the law. People use it to mean "toilet not in my house". It's not public. Taco Bell is a private establishment. The toilet in taco bell is privately owned by Taco Bell. The street in front of my house is public. The courthouse is public. The town square is public. Golds Gym is not. A private establishment open to the public is still private. Basic concepts here. You need to do some serious catch-up homework.
Don't be a douche. Your date can put down her phone as easily as someone can take off their glasses. Stop with intellectual dishonesty. Your complaint would be valid for a surgical implant that can't be turned off.
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*something, i mean, not someone
Also, when one kid in class chews gum, everyone in the class should get detention.
When a right is abused, it should be taken away too. Because of Westboro Baptist Church, we should repeal the 1st Amendment.
^ looks like that finally stopped him :D
Seems, but isn't.
It would only do that if I chose to make it do that...
You talk about obvious, but what about hidden cameras? What about cellphones (like the one that caught Romney being himself)? It seems to me that GG is more above board than what is already out there.
[You didn't answer my question about social acceptance, so I guess that part of our convo is a dead end.]
You truly don't understand the situation. Those of us that vote 3rd party aren't doing so because suddenly there is ONE 3rd party candidate we like, we are doing so because we know there is no viable future of an America led by either Republicans or Democrats, and that to vote for either of those parties is the only true way to waste a vote - It is a vote to make the country worse (which Obama did, just like Bush(es), just like Reagan, and to a much lesser extent just like Clinton).
Our preferred candidate dropping out will just make us vote for a different 3rd party candidate.
And that's actually the exact story of how I voted in 2008.
You overestimate me :D
Shut up and take my vote!
Only place I've seen a public toilet is: courtroom, parks, public-funded stadium. A toilet in a restaurant is not public. A restaurant is not owned by the public. We're talking about the legal definition of public/private, not the colloquial.
Yes, anyone taking a photo posts it to facebook. *rolls eyes*
That's part of the rub that annoys me with peoples' attitudes about this. When the government surveils you in a way that the entire institution of government has access to, it's okay. If a person posts you to his facebook where 5 other friends might see a thumbnail scroll by, and maybe one will click through and leave a comment.... THE SKY IS FALLING ZOMG PRIVACY VIOLATION. It seems very incongruous to me.
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You do have an expectation of privacy in any bathroom, at least. (That's good. No poop cam.)
...which makes me glad to be in a freer country. At least with respect to those remaining freedoms that haven't been pissed on.
You're equivocating "publish" with "publish for money", but yes. Things are more nuanced if you go into the details more. Being able to publish for money has [somewhat] little to do with being able to record/photograph for yourself.
You might want to tell Jennifer Anniston about the privacy she was supposed to have when her nude sunbathing photos were taken from outside her yard. No legal fucks were given on her behalf.
Then we might have finally found our common ground :)
At one time it was socially unacceptable to be seen dating someone of another race, or to breastfeed, or to kiss the same sex. Is not social acceptance just another form of Tyranny Of The Majority?
I agree, but if we live by the rules of the stupid, then we would not be permitted to leave the house without wearing a helmet. Bad apples doing something with X is no reason to disallow X. I see the same mentality with drugs, guns, and now 3-D printers (And GG).
If people would at least be honest that that is what their argument is, I'd be more inclined to agree with them. I've wanted a cellphone jammer for movie nights at my place for a reason...
Cameras are not allowed in many businesses. Including the secure facility I sometimes visit. Your business examples are just that: camera examples. They are not GG examples.
Everything non-U.S. I don't care about and am not willing to discuss. I live in the U.S.. The laws of other countries do not affect my opinions because they do not apply to me.
I suggest you do some basic homework on law in the U.S., starting but not ending at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expectation_of_privacy.
Calling people on a cellphone is something you cannot do without an assisted advice. It is superhuman. Normal humans can't have conversations with people 1000 miles away.
You've split hairs into a corner. It's amusing.
Anyway, you need to understand what words mean before you try to use them. "Public" in the context of "public toilet" is not the same as "public" in the context of the law. People use it to mean "toilet not in my house". It's not public. Taco Bell is a private establishment. The toilet in taco bell is privately owned by Taco Bell. The street in front of my house is public. The courthouse is public. The town square is public. Golds Gym is not. A private establishment open to the public is still private. Basic concepts here. You need to do some serious catch-up homework.
Don't be a douche. Your date can put down her phone as easily as someone can take off their glasses. Stop with intellectual dishonesty. Your complaint would be valid for a surgical implant that can't be turned off.