2) he didnt say it's impossible, and i dont think you'll find an astrophysicist who believes more in space exploration not only being possible, but neccesary. he simply said private enterprise won't do it first.
you're compeltely sidestepping the entire argument: that private enterprise does not break new ground in exploration and never has. they only repeat what the sponsored explorers already did. yes they do it cheaper, but they didnt do it first, and they followed in someone elses footsteps. its always easy to improve ona nd cheapen things when youre simply copying someone else. the first to do something is almost ALWAYS more expensive.
no private enterprise will go to Mars, first. why? because there is no profit there. There is no business venture to be made there without decades of investment with zero return. no private enterprise is going ot invest the trillions of dollars needed to do that. None. They will wait til someone else (a governement sponsored exploration) does it first. then once htey know what can be reaped, then they will go. and they will make improvements along the way.
And people will say "see? the government should never have done it, they spent too much money. Privatize this, privatize that". And thus cycle continues.
how many entrepenaurs do you know who can bankroll a space program? now how many do you know who are willing to instead of growing/hoarding their wealth some other way?
that's great. but thats not my point. my point is how little maintenence the owners of the cars will actually perform. electrics have lower requirements? that's great, and comepletely beside the point that cars get treated like sht by a lot of their owners. yet the cars still have to have X level of reliability precisely because of that in order to meet all the regulations and be attractive to customers.
Plus the average airplane gets many many more preventative maintenance hours performed on it than the typical car. Military planes more than civil, but still, MH per FH is significantly greater than 1:1 for aircraft, whereas for cars its significantly less.
Now for cars, that makes sense, or else the operating costs would skyrocket, so low maintenance needs are an essential feature. But then that means the parts and the software needs to be EVEN MORE reliable. And this is without even considering how poorly a lot of people actually treat their cars compared to teh "recommended/designed" maintenence levels.
To say most of the founders were Deists is a disservice to the Founders.
Of the 55 delegates to the Constitutional Convention there were 49 Protestants, and two Roman Catholics. There were 28 Church of England, 8 Presbyterians, 7 Congregationalists, 2 Lutherans, and 2 Methodists.
Increasing "founders" to include scholars and writers of political thought and philosophy, many were professedly Deists (by word and deed), such as Paine, Franklin, Madison. Some were influenced by Deistic philosophy, even if they were more ambiguous in actual beliefs (keeping them more private than others), such as Jefferson who wrote and held many Deistic ideals, but never called hisself such, and called himself a Unitarian.
Adams was a Protestant and later Unitarian as well. Washington was episcopelian. Hamilton espoused many things, some Deistic, some Protestent, but on the whole his religion was apparently dictated more by the current political needs than any personal beliefs. Jon Jay was Espicolpalian.
On the whole our Nation was founded by all three groups, each with significant numbers: Religous (chiefly Christians of various flavors), Deists, and Atheists. the one consistant thread between all the founders religious views is that regardless of their personal beliefs the majority of them put them aside and didnt try to force them on the nation or other citizens, and instead held to a rationalism regarding individual choice
No it was not founded as a specifically Christian nation. But while there is no official state religion, the majority popluation throughout its history has identified as Christian. Thankfully, even though many of them were Christians, they were also very very educated and intellectual and understood the importance of maintaining a freedom of choice in regards to religion. evangelicism movement didnt come around until much, much later.
The short of it is that to try and rewrite it and say "no no, they werent christians" is insulting to the many founders who were.
Ya...99.999999999999999999999999999999999999% probabilites vs 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% probabilities which are essentially are 0.
well that depends on design. specifically how you aim the light, or whether you leave large shadows. if you just toss up a light say "good nuff", you get what you deserve.
Oklahoma (and much of the plains) is pretty good too. Get about 40-60 miles out from OKC or Tulsa, and it starts getting real good. We were driving home from Dallas one night when I stopped and made her look. In 30 years she'd never seen it before without the city lights blocking most of it.
define Innaccurate. like i said, its not hard to create an accurate thermometer. we arent dealing with +/- 0.00001 accuracy here, nor do we need to. Even a basic mercury thermometer from 200 years ago can have an accuracy of +/- 0.2 degrees very easily, and that's being generous to yor side of the argument.
you dont know what the hell youre talking about. you need to just shut up.
also: hand blown vs digital has jack all to do with it. accuracy to the 0.0001 degree isnt that relevant. water boils and freezes at precisely defined and well known and easily obtained temperatures (and pressures, but for the sake of simplicity since im probably the only one in this thread that actually calibrates teh damn things, we'll keep it simple).
TLDR: creating an accurate thermometer isnt difficult.
because no one anywhere ever thought of putting thermometers anywhere else othr than cities (heat island) and no one anywhere ever realied that concrete absorbs and re-radiates a lot of energy.
nope.
not one person.
those weather monitoring stations in that NOAA spread around the country, in the middle of nowhere, on mountain tops, at rest areas (nearly every RA has one), on farms....those are all just for show. to disguise how ignorant they are. and all those individual peoples who contribute data over the years from areas with fewer monitors...those are just part of the lie too...
cause the two biggest hypocirts on human rights violations are exactly the ones you want running the secuirty council and the ones you would trust to enforce UN mandates regarding human rights violations in another nation.
including the collective will of other nations that also committ human rights violations and acts of atrocities against their own citizens just like syria. but we can trust them in these matters, right?
Vista's UAC asking me if i really Really REALLY want to delete that file, or really Really REALLY want to copy that file, or really Really REALLY want to open that file, really Really REALLY DOUBLEDOGREALLY want to open the Control Panel to turn that annoying little SOB off had nothing to do with the priviledges of applications I was trying to run.
Not really a bizarre argument. Its the flipside of the following scenario:
Used to work in a grocery store. They used to waste 1000's a day on BS returns to make customers happy, food tossed out because "expired" (wasnt really, but place was high end,had high quality goals).
and then they'd turn around and try to save pennies on turning out the light in the workers bathroom (a single, fairly dim, flourescent bulb).
Saving pennies when youre spending thousands isnt that logical. neither is cheaping out on solar panels when you're already spending a premium to put em in space.
first off, youre suicide number is made up. pulled frm thin air. not true. secondly, banning all the cars first will save more lives than removing all the guns. as in 45k per year on average.
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Way to completely misapply and abuse the quote.
1) he is neither elderly nor past his prime.
2) he didnt say it's impossible, and i dont think you'll find an astrophysicist who believes more in space exploration not only being possible, but neccesary. he simply said private enterprise won't do it first.
you're compeltely sidestepping the entire argument: that private enterprise does not break new ground in exploration and never has. they only repeat what the sponsored explorers already did. yes they do it cheaper, but they didnt do it first, and they followed in someone elses footsteps. its always easy to improve ona nd cheapen things when youre simply copying someone else. the first to do something is almost ALWAYS more expensive.
no private enterprise will go to Mars, first. why? because there is no profit there. There is no business venture to be made there without decades of investment with zero return. no private enterprise is going ot invest the trillions of dollars needed to do that. None. They will wait til someone else (a governement sponsored exploration) does it first. then once htey know what can be reaped, then they will go. and they will make improvements along the way.
And people will say "see? the government should never have done it, they spent too much money. Privatize this, privatize that".
And thus cycle continues.
how many entrepenaurs do you know who can bankroll a space program?
now how many do you know who are willing to instead of growing/hoarding their wealth some other way?
in our country, you're right. possibly even the EU.
China however is looking very promising.
that's great. but thats not my point. my point is how little maintenence the owners of the cars will actually perform. electrics have lower requirements? that's great, and comepletely beside the point that cars get treated like sht by a lot of their owners. yet the cars still have to have X level of reliability precisely because of that in order to meet all the regulations and be attractive to customers.
I-10 is a summer blockbuster movie compared to US-50 across Nevada.
Plus the average airplane gets many many more preventative maintenance hours performed on it than the typical car. Military planes more than civil, but still, MH per FH is significantly greater than 1:1 for aircraft, whereas for cars its significantly less.
Now for cars, that makes sense, or else the operating costs would skyrocket, so low maintenance needs are an essential feature. But then that means the parts and the software needs to be EVEN MORE reliable. And this is without even considering how poorly a lot of people actually treat their cars compared to teh "recommended/designed" maintenence levels.
To say most of the founders were Deists is a disservice to the Founders.
Of the 55 delegates to the Constitutional Convention there were 49 Protestants, and two Roman Catholics. There were 28 Church of England, 8 Presbyterians, 7 Congregationalists, 2 Lutherans, and 2 Methodists.
Increasing "founders" to include scholars and writers of political thought and philosophy, many were professedly Deists (by word and deed), such as Paine, Franklin, Madison. Some were influenced by Deistic philosophy, even if they were more ambiguous in actual beliefs (keeping them more private than others), such as Jefferson who wrote and held many Deistic ideals, but never called hisself such, and called himself a Unitarian.
Adams was a Protestant and later Unitarian as well. Washington was episcopelian. Hamilton espoused many things, some Deistic, some Protestent, but on the whole his religion was apparently dictated more by the current political needs than any personal beliefs. Jon Jay was Espicolpalian.
On the whole our Nation was founded by all three groups, each with significant numbers: Religous (chiefly Christians of various flavors), Deists, and Atheists. the one consistant thread between all the founders religious views is that regardless of their personal beliefs the majority of them put them aside and didnt try to force them on the nation or other citizens, and instead held to a rationalism regarding individual choice
No it was not founded as a specifically Christian nation. But while there is no official state religion, the majority popluation throughout its history has identified as Christian. Thankfully, even though many of them were Christians, they were also very very educated and intellectual and understood the importance of maintaining a freedom of choice in regards to religion. evangelicism movement didnt come around until much, much later.
The short of it is that to try and rewrite it and say "no no, they werent christians" is insulting to the many founders who were.
Ya...99.999999999999999999999999999999999999% probabilites vs 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% probabilities which are essentially are 0.
Seriously. Get off it.
Sun. 8 billion more years. Red giant. Burns Earth to a crisp. Possibly fully engulfs it. Sorry, its 100%. The Earth is toast (pun intended).
well that depends on design. specifically how you aim the light, or whether you leave large shadows. if you just toss up a light say "good nuff", you get what you deserve.
Oklahoma (and much of the plains) is pretty good too. Get about 40-60 miles out from OKC or Tulsa, and it starts getting real good. We were driving home from Dallas one night when I stopped and made her look. In 30 years she'd never seen it before without the city lights blocking most of it.
i did mention i was keeping this simple for slashdot right? yep its right there.
i calibrate these and similar ( http://us.flukecal.com/products/temperature-calibration/probessensors/secondary-standard-prts/56265628-secondary-sprt-prt-t?geoip=1 ) for a living. +/-0.006 degree accuracy and similar instruments. read the reports? I MAKE those reports. bugger off you ignorant tool.
define Innaccurate. like i said, its not hard to create an accurate thermometer. we arent dealing with +/- 0.00001 accuracy here, nor do we need to. Even a basic mercury thermometer from 200 years ago can have an accuracy of +/- 0.2 degrees very easily, and that's being generous to yor side of the argument.
you dont know what the hell youre talking about.
you need to just shut up.
also: hand blown vs digital has jack all to do with it. accuracy to the 0.0001 degree isnt that relevant. water boils and freezes at precisely defined and well known and easily obtained temperatures (and pressures, but for the sake of simplicity since im probably the only one in this thread that actually calibrates teh damn things, we'll keep it simple).
TLDR: creating an accurate thermometer isnt difficult.
because no one anywhere ever thought of putting thermometers anywhere else othr than cities (heat island) and no one anywhere ever realied that concrete absorbs and re-radiates a lot of energy.
nope.
not one person.
those weather monitoring stations in that NOAA spread around the country, in the middle of nowhere, on mountain tops, at rest areas (nearly every RA has one), on farms....those are all just for show. to disguise how ignorant they are. and all those individual peoples who contribute data over the years from areas with fewer monitors...those are just part of the lie too...
because the way to deal with psycopaths is to ignore them ...
It's like Albert Einstein being the least knowledgable person about Relativity.
cause the two biggest hypocirts on human rights violations are exactly the ones you want running the secuirty council and the ones you would trust to enforce UN mandates regarding human rights violations in another nation.
including the collective will of other nations that also committ human rights violations and acts of atrocities against their own citizens just like syria. but we can trust them in these matters, right?
Vista's UAC asking me if i really Really REALLY want to delete that file, or really Really REALLY want to copy that file, or really Really REALLY want to open that file, really Really REALLY DOUBLEDOGREALLY want to open the Control Panel to turn that annoying little SOB off had nothing to do with the priviledges of applications I was trying to run.
The most realistic Sim experience ever!
because no one has evern ever infiltrated a government agency or gained access to secrets by romancing an employee of said agency......
oh wait.
Not really a bizarre argument. Its the flipside of the following scenario:
Used to work in a grocery store. They used to waste 1000's a day on BS returns to make customers happy, food tossed out because "expired" (wasnt really, but place was high end,had high quality goals).
and then they'd turn around and try to save pennies on turning out the light in the workers bathroom (a single, fairly dim, flourescent bulb).
Saving pennies when youre spending thousands isnt that logical. neither is cheaping out on solar panels when you're already spending a premium to put em in space.
first off, youre suicide number is made up. pulled frm thin air. not true.
secondly, banning all the cars first will save more lives than removing all the guns.
as in 45k per year on average.