you still missed the part where its not "the attack" but the "several dozens of different attacks". 40-50 people wouldn't even get you one state.
no, the voting machines simply aren't a practical workable attack vector.
no, I think the best place to try to influence the instead is a single point of failure, say, a single person, easily corruptible. like say the person who runs the state elections, the state Secretary of State.
and oddly enough, it seems that's exactly what has been done, such as the one in North Carolina purging thousands of voters less than a week before the election without notice, and an appeals process that takes months. similar efforts have occurred in PA, NV, and one really influential such purge occurred in FL in 2000.
I'd worry less about the machines, and more about partisan election officials.
you idiots didn't point out anything. after 40 years of yelling fire, you have yet to produce any smoke or soot. at this point, you're worse than the boy who cried wolf, and half as smart.
if Bob's Deli repeatedly serves you a turd sandwich when you asked for ham, at what point do you stop expecting ham, and start expecting turd when you go to Bob's?
same goes for misinformation and lies when you expected facts and logic, after repeated visits to Brietbart's Land of the Alt Right.
that has more to do with the EU's current flirtation with "austerity" than with socialism. know what austerity is? its a concept they got from the US, specifically the same government shrinkage idea that the US toyed with in the 70s and 80s and has been hamstringing us ever since, cutting spending even in the face of economic crisis where cutting is the opposite of what should be happening.
needing CO2 is not the same as "needing more co2". the time scale of reaching 140ppm was in the millions of years. it's not we were in a time crunch. the earth was sitting at ~280ppm for several million years already. and still vastly different from cranking it back up to dinosaur era levels in a mere 200 years.
its not ignorant just because you don't understand the point being made.
theyre making the point that because we don't have a uniform centralized system controlled from the top down anyone who actually wants to attack the electoral process would have to expend a tremendous amount of resources to have any affect.
my county uses paper ballots, that go into a scantron type scanner permanently attached to a large pelican case. the scanner is non-networked. the next county over still uses punch cards (hopefully of a better quality than Florida's). in both cases the final tally is only accessibly by authorized personnel who must physically transcribe the number, with multiple person verification, onto a form that's reported to the sec state.
the clunky and dispersed nature of the system IS a form of security, rather than a lack of it. an attacker might be able to exploit a flaw in the machines or even the people used by one county, but that's it. the attack can't proceed any further than that one county. to scale up requires an equal level scaling up in the size of the conspiracy and it simply becomes unworkable and unreasonable to actually pull off.
it was always a non binding referendum. that was never secret. the idea of the elected leaders not following it through though is of course not practical, as they immediately be kicked out.
all this is that a court has stated that the parliament still needs to have an actual vote on it. it cannot be carried out legally without a proper vote first, simply because the public referendum is non-binding and not an actual directive under law.
warmer polar regions = less ocean circulation. less ocean circulation = more extreme climates. ie, if you live someplace cold, it's gonna get colder. live some place hot, its gonna get hotter. dry? drier. wet? wetter. ocean circulation is a gigantic moderator of planetary climate and weather.
and no, the NW Passage never existed with human memory, until now.
yet the hurricane season is beginning earlier, lasting longer, and thus ending later. hurricanes are also vastly complex systems that are both weather AND climate, that both cause and impact both.
besides, limiting yourself to hurricanes limits you geographically, since the term is geographic. the proper term is tropical storm, of which tropical cyclone is a subset which includes cyclones, hurricanes, and typhoons.
and last year saw several record setting typhoons, that are ignored by the fallacious statement about hurricanes, including the Cyclone Chapala, the 2nd strongest cyclone ever recorded in the Arabian Sea, and the first to ever make landfall on the Arabian peninsula in Yemen.
in fact, in your ignorance, your untrue statement misses that the 2015-16 season for tropical cyclones in the Pacific was in fact one of the most disastrous ever recorded.
yeah......it happened because government investment helped foster it.
See, government involvement to help foster and speed up noteworthy goals involves a carrot and a stick. the stick is the economic disincentive of fines stemming from regulation. the carrot is the economic incentive of investment in promising technologies.
both of which were used to create that green revolution years ahead of when market forces alone would have brought it about, and allowed it proceed at a much faster rate.
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Speaking as a veteran, limiting the vote to veterans is one of the stupidest, most dangerous things you can do.
you still missed the part where its not "the attack" but the "several dozens of different attacks".
40-50 people wouldn't even get you one state.
no, the voting machines simply aren't a practical workable attack vector.
no, I think the best place to try to influence the instead is a single point of failure, say, a single person, easily corruptible.
like say the person who runs the state elections, the state Secretary of State.
and oddly enough, it seems that's exactly what has been done, such as the one in North Carolina purging thousands of voters less than a week before the election without notice, and an appeals process that takes months. similar efforts have occurred in PA, NV, and one really influential such purge occurred in FL in 2000.
I'd worry less about the machines, and more about partisan election officials.
Reality says it misses you, wishes you would return to it.
and yet you still missed how ultimately nothing was ever proven in any of them
also, nice list of manufactured or non-existant scandals where nothing was ever proven.
you do realize Bill isn't running, right?
yeah, youre still missing factual statements.
already discredited less than 20 hours later.
that's why you shouldn't cite tabloids as sources.
media response: BUT EMAILS!!
ROFL.
reality does wish you guys would come back to it.
you idiots didn't point out anything.
after 40 years of yelling fire, you have yet to produce any smoke or soot.
at this point, you're worse than the boy who cried wolf, and half as smart.
you mean this maid?
http://mediamatters.org/resear...
oops.
looks like you fellows are pushing another non factual story.
so when are you going to present facts?
fallacy doesn't mean wrong.
if Bob's Deli repeatedly serves you a turd sandwich when you asked for ham, at what point do you stop expecting ham, and start expecting turd when you go to Bob's?
same goes for misinformation and lies when you expected facts and logic, after repeated visits to Brietbart's Land of the Alt Right.
that has more to do with the EU's current flirtation with "austerity" than with socialism.
know what austerity is? its a concept they got from the US, specifically the same government shrinkage idea that the US toyed with in the 70s and 80s and has been hamstringing us ever since, cutting spending even in the face of economic crisis where cutting is the opposite of what should be happening.
needing CO2 is not the same as "needing more co2".
the time scale of reaching 140ppm was in the millions of years.
it's not we were in a time crunch.
the earth was sitting at ~280ppm for several million years already.
and still vastly different from cranking it back up to dinosaur era levels in a mere 200 years.
its not ignorant just because you don't understand the point being made.
theyre making the point that because we don't have a uniform centralized system controlled from the top down anyone who actually wants to attack the electoral process would have to expend a tremendous amount of resources to have any affect.
my county uses paper ballots, that go into a scantron type scanner permanently attached to a large pelican case. the scanner is non-networked. the next county over still uses punch cards (hopefully of a better quality than Florida's). in both cases the final tally is only accessibly by authorized personnel who must physically transcribe the number, with multiple person verification, onto a form that's reported to the sec state.
the clunky and dispersed nature of the system IS a form of security, rather than a lack of it.
an attacker might be able to exploit a flaw in the machines or even the people used by one county, but that's it. the attack can't proceed any further than that one county. to scale up requires an equal level scaling up in the size of the conspiracy and it simply becomes unworkable and unreasonable to actually pull off.
it was always a non binding referendum.
that was never secret.
the idea of the elected leaders not following it through though is of course not practical, as they immediately be kicked out.
all this is that a court has stated that the parliament still needs to have an actual vote on it.
it cannot be carried out legally without a proper vote first, simply because the public referendum is non-binding and not an actual directive under law.
warmer polar regions = less ocean circulation.
less ocean circulation = more extreme climates. ie, if you live someplace cold, it's gonna get colder. live some place hot, its gonna get hotter. dry? drier. wet? wetter. ocean circulation is a gigantic moderator of planetary climate and weather.
and no, the NW Passage never existed with human memory, until now.
yet the hurricane season is beginning earlier, lasting longer, and thus ending later.
hurricanes are also vastly complex systems that are both weather AND climate, that both cause and impact both.
besides, limiting yourself to hurricanes limits you geographically, since the term is geographic.
the proper term is tropical storm, of which tropical cyclone is a subset which includes cyclones, hurricanes, and typhoons.
and last year saw several record setting typhoons, that are ignored by the fallacious statement about hurricanes, including the Cyclone Chapala, the 2nd strongest cyclone ever recorded in the Arabian Sea, and the first to ever make landfall on the Arabian peninsula in Yemen.
in fact, in your ignorance, your untrue statement misses that the 2015-16 season for tropical cyclones in the Pacific was in fact one of the most disastrous ever recorded.
Seriously, the only people calling for that, are the caricatures that exist solely in your head.
Reality is far different.
pointing out an individuals very real opportunistic hypocrisy does not make one a "troll".
you can copy pasta this ignorant garbage all you want, on every GW thread.
but its still ignorant garbage.
That green energy market revolution?
yeah... ...it happened because government investment helped foster it.
See, government involvement to help foster and speed up noteworthy goals involves a carrot and a stick.
the stick is the economic disincentive of fines stemming from regulation.
the carrot is the economic incentive of investment in promising technologies.
both of which were used to create that green revolution years ahead of when market forces alone would have brought it about, and allowed it proceed at a much faster rate.
don't forget the benefits to global health, which in turn leads to less money spent on healthcare.