no, talking about cost makes sense when you have a common frame of reference as the basis of the discussion.
when you agree on the terms, the assumptions, and how the system is seen as a whole.
then, based on that, what is essentially an engineer's or scientist's view of it, then you can talk about cost. or at least present your argument as to what the cost is and the underlying basis for your calculations.
but the mere fact that two opposing groups disagree over the cost does not make it incalculable.
Ditto. Went from 98 to 2000, until I upgraded video card to GeForce 8800 which wouldn't run under it. From 2000 to Vista, which to me wasn't all that bad, just released early; basically like a 7 Alpha release. So then jumped to 7 when came out with full 64bit support, and using that since.
Wait wait wait.... seriously.... you didn't read your linked article AGAIN!?
Somehow you turned "he wasn't fired over email" into "he was fired over email"....
Shuster said Gration was forced to resign because of his use of personal email accounts.
That was one issue State Department officials raised. But just one of many. The State Department Inspector General’s report paints a much more troubling picture of an embassy in disarray under Gration’s leadership. In the words of the auditors, Gration "has lost the respect and confidence of the staff to lead the mission." Gration ranked at or near the absolute bottom among other ambassadors assessed by the department.
His use of email was an issue, but according to an ambassador with much experience, it was a relatively minor one.
We rate the claim Mostly False.
Are you SURE you aren't doing a Colbert style parody act of a RWNJ?
Also, commercial email is not the same thing as a private email server, now is it? Surely even your puny brain is aware of that?
its a variation on the argument they used after NYPD choked out the guy selling loose cigarettes and killed him.
libertarians turned it around and blamed the left for writing laws, saying laws killed him....not the NYPD who ignored orders to not use chokeholds and overreacted to a man selling loose cigarettes.
its beyond stupid, but typical for people like the GP.
You don’t have to like Hillary Clinton or her ideas. I get it. She’s a Democrat, a progressive (in most eyes), and conservatives don’t like that. However, you cannot say she does not have any accomplishments. Here are just a few: Even though her major initiative, the Clinton healthcare plan, failed (due to Republican obstruction), you cannot deny that it laid ground for what we have today, the Affordable Healthcare Act, something Clinton supports and would continue. She played a leading role in the development of State Children’s Health Insurance Program, which provides the much-needed state support for children whose parents cannot afford nor provide them with adequate healthcare coverage. She was also instrumental in the creation of the Adoption and Safe Families Act and the Foster Care Independence Act. Successfully fought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and asthma at the National Institute of Health (NIH). She spearheaded investigations into mental illness plaguing veterans of the Gulf War; we now have a term for it – Gulf War Syndrome. At the Department of Justice, she helped create the office on Violence Against Women. She was instrumental in securing over $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center redevelopment. Took a leading role in the investigation of health consequences of first responders and drafted the first bill to compensate and offer the health services our first responders deserve (Clinton’s successor in the Senate, Kirsten Gillibrand, passed the bill). Was instrumental in working out a bi-partisan compromise to address civil liberty abuses for the renewal of the U.S. Patriot Act.
Proposed a revival of the New Deal-era Home Owners’ Loan Corporation to help homeowners refinance their mortgages in the wake of the 2008 financial disaster. Was a major proponent of sensible diplomacy which brought about a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel, and brokered human rights with Burma. Oversaw free trade agreements with our allies such as Panama, Colombia, and South Korea. Was the most traveled Secretary of State to date. The Clinton Foundation, founded by her and her husband, has improved the living conditions for nearly 400 million people in over 180 countries through its Initiative program.
These are not all of her accomplishments. Her activism on behalf of women a children across the world is renowned. Her activism for raising the minimum wage and combating climate change is stellar. You do not have to support what she does or stands for. But do not say she doesn’t have any accomplishments. The conservatives who say this are the ones who are pushing for Ted Cruz – who brought on a $24 billion shut down. That, to them, is an accomplishment?
Yes, Hillary Clinton has accomplishments. You don’t have to like them, but they do, in fact, exist.
The electoral college is not a democratic institution. It is a bandaid solution for problem that no longer exists.
It's pros have long ceased outweighing its cons, the most significant of which is the possibility of a minority of the nation winning the vote, overruling the popular vote. Which was long considered unlikely, yet actually happened and gave us Bush whose effect we're still not done with.
It's a relic of a past age, a paean to a view of the relationship between state and nation that most people haven't held for over a century, and hasn't been relevant to governance for even longer.
Worse, it is possible, if unlikely (but see above), to actually win the EC with only ~26% of the popular vote. That is not democracy.
Correcting structural racism is not itself prejudiced. What would be prejudiced is fighting or arguing to maintain that structural racism and keep it intact.
No. Yours is merely another form of the argument that granting equal rights to minority groups deprived of those rights is somehow actually granting that minority special rights, because now the non-minority group is no longer advantaged over the minority.
Structural racism exists and severely disadvantages these minority students. Correcting that distortion, undoing that structural racism, is not then racist itself.
Not really, no. you're thinking of the ocean as a homogenous mixture of water. It's not.
Depth, pressure, salinity, dissolved O2 content, dissolved CO2 content, mineral content....many factors go into it, but the short of it is: it's not a homogenous mixture. its heterogeneous.
or stated better, on the small, local scale, its homogenous. but globally, its heterogeneous. it is very stratified, and different strata of the water have different behaviors.
the one we're most considered here with is the oxygen content: warmer water holds less of it. mixing helps regulate temperature (it contributes to the dissipating heat quickly that you presumed upon), which helps to average out oxygen content. if the water becomes more stratified, because mixing is reduced or slowed down, so does oxygen content. considering that life is more concentrated, more numerous, in the warmer depths of the water, the problem of that strata of water losing oxygen content should be readily apparent.
oxygen content and water temperature are two limiting factors on life in the ocean. reducing either reduces the activity level (or metabolic potential) of life. right now life in the upper reaches is in a happy place, where both are fairly maximized. that layer though would shrink under the scenario posited by the article. sure, there'd still be the animals that exploit niches, like deep diving whales protected from the cold by thick thick blubber, or super slow metabolism Greenland sharks in the deep arctic ocean, but these are the outliers who figured out ways to bend the rules and get out of the box that holds 95% of the other critters.
not so extraordinary once you consider that water holds less dissolved oxygen the warmer it gets. there are multiple die offs in the fossil record of marine life likely tied to oxygen depletion of the oceans.
why do folks always ignore that the life that exists now is not the same as the life that existed then? with several hundred million years in between life adapts for -current- conditions. and when those conditions change, they die and get replaced by life adapted for the changed conditions.
the assumption that because its colder now, or Co2 is lower now, that current life wont go extinct or be threatened by an increase in temperature is simply not valid. the whole of your point is essentially a variation on the "it was warmer before" argument.
odd that you missed the point even though you specifically stated it:water holds less dissolved oxygen as it gets warmer. the ocean is getting warmer. O2 content is measurably going down, even without the effects if El Nino. phytoplankton oxygen production is completely irrelevant to that discussion.
and yes the ocean is currently alkaline, but that doesn't mean it's not acidifying. acidifying != acidic. to be acidic pH needs to be below 7, but to be acidifying it merely needs to be moving from a higher pH to a lower pH, which it is measurably doing.
your post is meaningless deflection, and certainly not insightful.
you display a marked lack of agricultural knowledge.
first off, you reveal your stupidity by even using the phrase SJW in this context.
secondly, you want logic? OK, try this: in a higher CO2 environment many staple crops produce less of that crop, a less nutritious crop, or get decimated by parasites.
thirdly, consider we aren't getting that additional CO2 for free. there are other affects associated with it, most importantly higher temperatures, which have a much larger affect on plant growth, and ultimately viability, than CO2 levels. maybe there will be a few years of higher growth...but what happens when its too hot for them to grow? or they don't get the needed number of days of cold or cool weather?
Again i direct you to your very own fucking link where it literally says "Not a good indicator of personal income or standard of living". This is econ 101 basic knowledge shit.
If you cant even get this right, there is little point in trying to educate your ignorant ass. Facts literally do not matter to you. You are the epitome of an ignorant RWNJ who crafts his own narrative by cherrypicking incomplete data.
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no, talking about cost makes sense when you have a common frame of reference as the basis of the discussion.
when you agree on the terms, the assumptions, and how the system is seen as a whole.
then, based on that, what is essentially an engineer's or scientist's view of it, then you can talk about cost. or at least present your argument as to what the cost is and the underlying basis for your calculations.
but the mere fact that two opposing groups disagree over the cost does not make it incalculable.
Sure.
But wouldn't you like to know if inhaled that as yet untested e-cig has any health problems associated with it?
Ditto.
Went from 98 to 2000, until I upgraded video card to GeForce 8800 which wouldn't run under it.
From 2000 to Vista, which to me wasn't all that bad, just released early; basically like a 7 Alpha release.
So then jumped to 7 when came out with full 64bit support, and using that since.
No, he got a score of 2 (and it should be -1) because even his own link proves him a liar.
Wait wait wait....
seriously....
you didn't read your linked article AGAIN!?
Somehow you turned "he wasn't fired over email" into "he was fired over email"....
Shuster said Gration was forced to resign because of his use of personal email accounts.
That was one issue State Department officials raised. But just one of many. The State Department Inspector General’s report paints a much more troubling picture of an embassy in disarray under Gration’s leadership. In the words of the auditors, Gration "has lost the respect and confidence of the staff to lead the mission." Gration ranked at or near the absolute bottom among other ambassadors assessed by the department.
His use of email was an issue, but according to an ambassador with much experience, it was a relatively minor one.
We rate the claim Mostly False.
Are you SURE you aren't doing a Colbert style parody act of a RWNJ?
Also, commercial email is not the same thing as a private email server, now is it?
Surely even your puny brain is aware of that?
If you think for one moment anyone would hold back if they had a single shred of evidence that she was had done anything, you're a fool.
This is just like when you idiots were constantly saying Obama was breaking the law, yet never did anything to back it up.
Obama never got impeached because all you idiots had was bluster and BS.
And the same is true now of this 100% manufactured scandal.
much like the claims of the hacker of the article, its easy to say words without backing them up.
especially as AC.
I agree with don't count on it.
But the only person who "manufactured" this scandal is one Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Hmmm. That's the strangest spelling of New York Times I've ever encountered.
its a variation on the argument they used after NYPD choked out the guy selling loose cigarettes and killed him.
libertarians turned it around and blamed the left for writing laws, saying laws killed him....not the NYPD who ignored orders to not use chokeholds and overreacted to a man selling loose cigarettes.
its beyond stupid, but typical for people like the GP.
no real accomplishments
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You don’t have to like Hillary Clinton or her ideas. I get it. She’s a Democrat, a progressive (in most eyes), and conservatives don’t like that. However, you cannot say she does not have any accomplishments. Here are just a few:
Even though her major initiative, the Clinton healthcare plan, failed (due to Republican obstruction), you cannot deny that it laid ground for what we have today, the Affordable Healthcare Act, something Clinton supports and would continue.
She played a leading role in the development of State Children’s Health Insurance Program, which provides the much-needed state support for children whose parents cannot afford nor provide them with adequate healthcare coverage.
She was also instrumental in the creation of the Adoption and Safe Families Act and the Foster Care Independence Act.
Successfully fought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and asthma at the National Institute of Health (NIH).
She spearheaded investigations into mental illness plaguing veterans of the Gulf War; we now have a term for it – Gulf War Syndrome.
At the Department of Justice, she helped create the office on Violence Against Women.
She was instrumental in securing over $21 billion in funding for the World Trade Center redevelopment.
Took a leading role in the investigation of health consequences of first responders and drafted the first bill to compensate and offer the health services our first responders deserve (Clinton’s successor in the Senate, Kirsten Gillibrand, passed the bill).
Was instrumental in working out a bi-partisan compromise to address civil liberty abuses for the renewal of the U.S. Patriot Act.
Proposed a revival of the New Deal-era Home Owners’ Loan Corporation to help homeowners refinance their mortgages in the wake of the 2008 financial disaster.
Was a major proponent of sensible diplomacy which brought about a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel, and brokered human rights with Burma.
Oversaw free trade agreements with our allies such as Panama, Colombia, and South Korea.
Was the most traveled Secretary of State to date.
The Clinton Foundation, founded by her and her husband, has improved the living conditions for nearly 400 million people in over 180 countries through its Initiative program.
These are not all of her accomplishments. Her activism on behalf of women a children across the world is renowned. Her activism for raising the minimum wage and combating climate change is stellar. You do not have to support what she does or stands for. But do not say she doesn’t have any accomplishments. The conservatives who say this are the ones who are pushing for Ted Cruz – who brought on a $24 billion shut down. That, to them, is an accomplishment?
Yes, Hillary Clinton has accomplishments. You don’t have to like them, but they do, in fact, exist.
Bull.
The electoral college is not a democratic institution.
It is a bandaid solution for problem that no longer exists.
It's pros have long ceased outweighing its cons, the most significant of which is the possibility of a minority of the nation winning the vote, overruling the popular vote. Which was long considered unlikely, yet actually happened and gave us Bush whose effect we're still not done with.
It's a relic of a past age, a paean to a view of the relationship between state and nation that most people haven't held for over a century, and hasn't been relevant to governance for even longer.
Worse, it is possible, if unlikely (but see above), to actually win the EC with only ~26% of the popular vote.
That is not democracy.
The EC needs to go away.
im sure the gop would love to have some superdelegates right now though! :P
Misleading deflection.
Correcting structural racism is not itself prejudiced.
What would be prejudiced is fighting or arguing to maintain that structural racism and keep it intact.
No. Yours is merely another form of the argument that granting equal rights to minority groups deprived of those rights is somehow actually granting that minority special rights, because now the non-minority group is no longer advantaged over the minority.
Structural racism exists and severely disadvantages these minority students.
Correcting that distortion, undoing that structural racism, is not then racist itself.
Not really, no. you're thinking of the ocean as a homogenous mixture of water. It's not.
Depth, pressure, salinity, dissolved O2 content, dissolved CO2 content, mineral content....many factors go into it, but the short of it is: it's not a homogenous mixture. its heterogeneous.
or stated better, on the small, local scale, its homogenous.
but globally, its heterogeneous.
it is very stratified, and different strata of the water have different behaviors.
the one we're most considered here with is the oxygen content: warmer water holds less of it.
mixing helps regulate temperature (it contributes to the dissipating heat quickly that you presumed upon), which helps to average out oxygen content.
if the water becomes more stratified, because mixing is reduced or slowed down, so does oxygen content. considering that life is more concentrated, more numerous, in the warmer depths of the water, the problem of that strata of water losing oxygen content should be readily apparent.
oxygen content and water temperature are two limiting factors on life in the ocean. reducing either reduces the activity level (or metabolic potential) of life. right now life in the upper reaches is in a happy place, where both are fairly maximized. that layer though would shrink under the scenario posited by the article. sure, there'd still be the animals that exploit niches, like deep diving whales protected from the cold by thick thick blubber, or super slow metabolism Greenland sharks in the deep arctic ocean, but these are the outliers who figured out ways to bend the rules and get out of the box that holds 95% of the other critters.
not so extraordinary once you consider that water holds less dissolved oxygen the warmer it gets.
there are multiple die offs in the fossil record of marine life likely tied to oxygen depletion of the oceans.
why do folks always ignore that the life that exists now is not the same as the life that existed then?
with several hundred million years in between life adapts for -current- conditions.
and when those conditions change, they die and get replaced by life adapted for the changed conditions.
the assumption that because its colder now, or Co2 is lower now, that current life wont go extinct or be threatened by an increase in temperature is simply not valid. the whole of your point is essentially a variation on the "it was warmer before" argument.
just like the way to make racism go away is to pretend it doesn't exist and never talk about it?
Yeah...no...that's foolish and ignorant.
odd that you missed the point even though you specifically stated it:water holds less dissolved oxygen as it gets warmer.
the ocean is getting warmer. O2 content is measurably going down, even without the effects if El Nino. phytoplankton oxygen production is completely irrelevant to that discussion.
and yes the ocean is currently alkaline, but that doesn't mean it's not acidifying. acidifying != acidic. to be acidic pH needs to be below 7, but to be acidifying it merely needs to be moving from a higher pH to a lower pH, which it is measurably doing.
your post is meaningless deflection, and certainly not insightful.
its literally already happening.
the ice caps -ARE- melting.
ocean oxygen levels ARE dropping.
ocean pH IS rising.
Oh JFC, why don't you give your special brand of stupid a rest.
Ditto.
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you display a marked lack of agricultural knowledge.
first off, you reveal your stupidity by even using the phrase SJW in this context.
secondly, you want logic? OK, try this: in a higher CO2 environment many staple crops produce less of that crop, a less nutritious crop, or get decimated by parasites.
thirdly, consider we aren't getting that additional CO2 for free. there are other affects associated with it, most importantly higher temperatures, which have a much larger affect on plant growth, and ultimately viability, than CO2 levels. maybe there will be a few years of higher growth...but what happens when its too hot for them to grow? or they don't get the needed number of days of cold or cool weather?
I rather figure these sorts of thing should have an element of punitive damages so as to discourage businesses from doing it in the first place.
if all they have to do is pay him the fair value, then there is no disincentive to doing it again.
Again i direct you to your very own fucking link where it literally says "Not a good indicator of personal income or standard of living".
This is econ 101 basic knowledge shit.
If you cant even get this right, there is little point in trying to educate your ignorant ass.
Facts literally do not matter to you.
You are the epitome of an ignorant RWNJ who crafts his own narrative by cherrypicking incomplete data.
just cold hard truth