Make it easier to get the music by paying then to pirate it. I'm not going to go through the hassle of looking up a CD in napster or IRC or wherever if it only costs $0.50, or even $0.50 a track. My time is worth something as well, and considering that they only pay the artiest about 10 cents a disk, I will never have a problem 'stealing' from the music companies, no matter how indignant randite/.ers get.
Its not stealing, its half stealing. I get something for free, but you are deprived of nothing, other then the possibility of making money by selling it.
Taking things from others is wrong; getting something for free is not. New technology allows us to do one without the other.
If I pirate software that I would never have purchased, I deprive no one of anything. Distributing NT in china doesn't loose MS any money, because the people can't afford it anyway.
Gravity, or big G is constant everywhere, its used in a formula (that I cannot remember) to calculate the gravitational force between any two objects (along with there mass and distance (increases with mass, decreases with distance).
You aren't being pulled toward the center of earth, you are being pulled toward every particle in it. The average vector points to the earth's center of gravity. When you get closer to that point, more and more of the vectors would be pointing away from that. When you got to the center, the average vector would be (0,0,0), so it would seem that you were weightless. When you get farther away from earth, the distance to those particles would be less, so the effect of gravity would seem to be less. That's why don't fall into the sun (since it has more mass then earth)
Its one thing to be misinformed, like the author of the root comment. It's quite another thing to be wrong and insult people who are correct. The second thing makes you an idiot.
The closer you are to the SURFACE of eath, the more it weighs on you, if you get farther away, the effect is weaker. When you get closer to the center, gravity pulls you more directions, at the true center, it would seem like you were weightless
Anyway, that affects little g (the gravitational attraction between anything and earth), not big G (the gravitational attraction between any two objects, depending on mass and distance). Big G stays the same everywhere.
and you could work ahead of the processor, as in punch in several keystrokes (Cut, New, Enter, Paste, F11) and it would do all of them, something Windoze won't do.
Makes me want to pop some dual PIII's in an old Pet box.:)
Actually, it would be like putting PentiumIIs in a 386 box, witch would not be hard it all, given the modular nature of PCs.... (as opposed to Macs, witch is why this store is anything at all)
if giving music away for free was such a GREAT idea? why are 75 % of the artists pissed? Because it's violating their RIGHTS! Something stallman sees as OK.
Does Metallica and Dr Dre consist of 75% of the music industry?
Almost all of the artiests, save those two have been for MP3s
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Thats why they have the little over prefix in the word. OVERpopulation.
Population, just by itself is a good thing, however. But that dosn't mean you didn't sound stupid...
There is a finite amount of resources on this planet.
Yes, but for the time being we are nowhere near that point. When it is reached the human race will start to decline, just like every other large animal on the planet.
Since the number of people on this planet is increasing, we are not overpopulated in the scientific sense of the word.
Clearly, it is possible for there to be a super saturation of humans on this planet, but there is no reason to think that it is anywhere near.
Re:Overpopulation is good, based on your "logic"?
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Take an island. Put 1,000 people on it. Give them all enough infinite wealth. Give them zero food.
Welth == Food+other stuff. If you have no food, you have no welth. idiot.
Are you claiming that poverty can exist without people?
Clearly, he was not. Perhaps you whould learn to read? Only that it was not related to an excess of people. Japan has a huge population density, yet no one is starving. Bangledesh has a population on par with large US citys, and People are starving. Understand?
He isn't talking about Linux having widespread success; he's talking about Linux Existing at all. If there was No GPL'd GNU software, there would have been no reason (and probably no impetus) for Linus to create Linux
Also, the GPL is fundamentally different then MS's EULA, the GPL has enabled Linux to be developed for, most of the last decade, for next to no cost.
Linux's widespread appeal over the past 2 years may not have much to do with GPL, but Linux's genesis over the past 9 certainly does.
With Rand, she basicaly says "I'm right", and proves it with her convoluded logic, regardless of the outcome.
And while RMS says that there is a right and wrong, he dosn't say that he is right, only that one must be right, and one must be wrong. Clearly, he belives that he's right.
Also, unlike rand RMS belives the diffrence between right and wrong is in the practical application. (where it clearly belongs) rather then in the fucked up anti-logic of Rand's mind.
The Judge would be able to give them any fine they want. The easiest thing would simply be to make mp3.com pay for all the licenses that they have, in other words, the pay $15 or whatever for each CD, or about 1.2 million dollars. Possibly even less. If you hit me with a car, and I sued you for a billion dollars, the judge shouldn't throw out the case, he should award me a fair amount of money.
Actualy, Labels are Apt to pay radio stations for stuff, and when they do its a big scandal. Radio stations do not pay for music, who ever told you that was a crackhead.
All the content of mp3.com is copyrighted to mp3.com. I guess its more of a technocrat.net type thing, where the artist still has his own Copyright, or perhaps mp3.com is just bullshiting.
But anyway, they say that your not allowed to distribute the files you download of mp3...
Actually, napster has plenty of control over content, they own the main directory servers no?
Anyway, the DCMA does make some noises about the responsibility of the connection provider, and I wouldn't be surprised if the record industry tried to make a anit-napster/gnutella law. And given the, uh, flexibility of the US government, I wouldn't be surprised if it passed.
It will never be hard for intelligent people to find illegal MP3s. I know someone who is so anti software piracy that they'll ban people from IRC channels for mentioning it. But they've got 9gigs of mp3s on there hard drive, on a web shared directory.
People just don't care, and most of them never will. What stuff like thisis going to hurt is the distribution channels for indi groups and bands that can't/don't want to sign with Labels.
Of course, you could also just rip the MP3s if you did that...
Basically what my.mp3.com did was eliminate the ripping process in getting an MP3...
Re:Don't worry about it, Napster's a different iss
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It's rather like, if a company were to offer free downloads of the full 6-disc SuSE distro including all the non-freeware programs, for anyone running that edition of SuSE. SuSE and the companies whose non-free programs are included would probably get very upset and sue,
I can't believe this got a +5, I really can't.
It's not like that at all. They are providing download for people who already own the CDIt would be in the same ballpark as setting up local FTP server to install SuSE Linux on another computer. If you already owned a license for it, then why shouldn't you be able to? Why exactly are you not allowed to 'provide a service based on someone else's IP'? There are lots of windows contractors out there, the provide a service on Microsoft's IP, but only to people who own valid licenses.
Wal-Mart sells CDs, and they don't own the IP, Of course Wal-Mart has a contract with the labels, but what about small used CD shops? They actually have been sued, and the record companies lost miserably. There is no reason you can't do whatever you want with property you already own.
The Only possible reason that this could be illegal is if they didn't provide adequate protection for the IP. For example, if they didn't do enough to stop people from passing around my.mp3.com accounts.
I have never been so happy to be in iowa :)
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Well, if the 'bomb-shelter' law passes here, I won't have to worry about it. I guess there are some advantages to being in a small state where the legislators actualy give a damn... Its to bad the artical's slashdoted and I won't be able to read exactly what's going on....
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Make it easier to get the music by paying then to pirate it. I'm not going to go through the hassle of looking up a CD in napster or IRC or wherever if it only costs $0.50, or even $0.50 a track. My time is worth something as well, and considering that they only pay the artiest about 10 cents a disk, I will never have a problem 'stealing' from the music companies, no matter how indignant randite /.ers get.
Its not stealing, its half stealing. I get something for free, but you are deprived of nothing, other then the possibility of making money by selling it.
Taking things from others is wrong; getting something for free is not. New technology allows us to do one without the other.
If I pirate software that I would never have purchased, I deprive no one of anything. Distributing NT in china doesn't loose MS any money, because the people can't afford it anyway.
what were you going to use as a fulcrum?
JESUS CHRIST!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
Gravity, or big G is constant everywhere, its used in a formula (that I cannot remember) to calculate the gravitational force between any two objects (along with there mass and distance (increases with mass, decreases with distance).
You aren't being pulled toward the center of earth, you are being pulled toward every particle in it. The average vector points to the earth's center of gravity. When you get closer to that point, more and more of the vectors would be pointing away from that. When you got to the center, the average vector would be (0,0,0), so it would seem that you were weightless. When you get farther away from earth, the distance to those particles would be less, so the effect of gravity would seem to be less. That's why don't fall into the sun (since it has more mass then earth)
Its one thing to be misinformed, like the author of the root comment. It's quite another thing to be wrong and insult people who are correct. The second thing makes you an idiot.
The closer you are to the SURFACE of eath, the more it weighs on you, if you get farther away, the effect is weaker. When you get closer to the center, gravity pulls you more directions, at the true center, it would seem like you were weightless
Anyway, that affects little g (the gravitational attraction between anything and earth), not big G (the gravitational attraction between any two objects, depending on mass and distance). Big G stays the same everywhere.
and you could work ahead of the processor, as in punch in several keystrokes (Cut, New, Enter, Paste, F11) and it would do all of them, something Windoze won't do.
Windows can do this.
Makes me want to pop some dual PIII's in an old Pet box. :)
Actually, it would be like putting PentiumIIs in a 386 box, witch would not be hard it all, given the modular nature of PCs.... (as opposed to Macs, witch is why this store is anything at all)
if giving music away for free was such a GREAT idea? why are 75 % of the artists pissed? Because it's violating their RIGHTS! Something stallman sees as OK.
Does Metallica and Dr Dre consist of 75% of the music industry?
Almost all of the artiests, save those two have been for MP3s
Thats why they have the little over prefix in the word. OVERpopulation.
Population, just by itself is a good thing, however. But that dosn't mean you didn't sound stupid...
If you think everyone who disagrees with you is a troll, its a good sign that your an idiot.
Witch is much worse, IMO
There is a finite amount of resources on this planet.
Yes, but for the time being we are nowhere near that point. When it is reached the human race will start to decline, just like every other large animal on the planet.
Since the number of people on this planet is increasing, we are not overpopulated in the scientific sense of the word.
Clearly, it is possible for there to be a super saturation of humans on this planet, but there is no reason to think that it is anywhere near.
Take an island. Put 1,000 people on it. Give them all enough infinite wealth. Give them zero food.
Welth == Food+other stuff. If you have no food, you have no welth. idiot.
Are you claiming that poverty can exist without people?
Clearly, he was not. Perhaps you whould learn to read? Only that it was not related to an excess of people. Japan has a huge population density, yet no one is starving. Bangledesh has a population on par with large US citys, and People are starving. Understand?
I've got three bags of Ramen noodles... send half of it to a family in Bangledesh.
You have X amount of hard drive space on your computer. Set me up and account so I can use half of it.
Do you think starving to death is somehow comparable to not having enough disk space to store your mp3s?
Do you think choosing witch child is going to die is equivalent to deciding witch warez collection is going to get burned to CD?
If you do, then you are fucking moron.
He isn't talking about Linux having widespread success; he's talking about Linux Existing at all. If there was No GPL'd GNU software, there would have been no reason (and probably no impetus) for Linus to create Linux
Also, the GPL is fundamentally different then MS's EULA, the GPL has enabled Linux to be developed for, most of the last decade, for next to no cost.
Linux's widespread appeal over the past 2 years may not have much to do with GPL, but Linux's genesis over the past 9 certainly does.
With Rand, she basicaly says "I'm right", and proves it with her convoluded logic, regardless of the outcome.
And while RMS says that there is a right and wrong, he dosn't say that he is right, only that one must be right, and one must be wrong. Clearly, he belives that he's right.
Also, unlike rand RMS belives the diffrence between right and wrong is in the practical application. (where it clearly belongs) rather then in the fucked up anti-logic of Rand's mind.
Since when do you license to sell any physical object?
God, some people are so stupid.
The Judge would be able to give them any fine they want. The easiest thing would simply be to make mp3.com pay for all the licenses that they have, in other words, the pay $15 or whatever for each CD, or about 1.2 million dollars. Possibly even less. If you hit me with a car, and I sued you for a billion dollars, the judge shouldn't throw out the case, he should award me a fair amount of money.
If you Borrow the CD, then you can rip the tracks. so what again, was the point of the suit? (Other then to fuck over MP3.com...)
Actualy, Labels are Apt to pay radio stations for stuff, and when they do its a big scandal. Radio stations do not pay for music, who ever told you that was a crackhead.
There are not really that many people out there who get most of their music from the Internet, are there?
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Only just about everyone I know... Well at ISU we mostly use the local Filesharing
All the content of mp3.com is copyrighted to mp3.com. I guess its more of a technocrat.net type thing, where the artist still has his own Copyright, or perhaps mp3.com is just bullshiting.
But anyway, they say that your not allowed to distribute the files you download of mp3...
Actually, napster has plenty of control over content, they own the main directory servers no?
Anyway, the DCMA does make some noises about the responsibility of the connection provider, and I wouldn't be surprised if the record industry tried to make a anit-napster/gnutella law. And given the, uh, flexibility of the US government, I wouldn't be surprised if it passed.
It will never be hard for intelligent people to find illegal MP3s. I know someone who is so anti software piracy that they'll ban people from IRC channels for mentioning it. But they've got 9gigs of mp3s on there hard drive, on a web shared directory.
People just don't care, and most of them never will. What stuff like thisis going to hurt is the distribution channels for indi groups and bands that can't/don't want to sign with Labels.
Of course, you could also just rip the MP3s if you did that...
Basically what my.mp3.com did was eliminate the ripping process in getting an MP3...
It's rather like, if a company were to offer free downloads of the full 6-disc SuSE distro including all the non-freeware programs, for anyone running that edition of SuSE. SuSE and the companies whose non-free programs are included would probably get very upset and sue,
I can't believe this got a +5, I really can't.
It's not like that at all. They are providing download for people who already own the CDIt would be in the same ballpark as setting up local FTP server to install SuSE Linux on another computer. If you already owned a license for it, then why shouldn't you be able to? Why exactly are you not allowed to 'provide a service based on someone else's IP'? There are lots of windows contractors out there, the provide a service on Microsoft's IP, but only to people who own valid licenses.
Wal-Mart sells CDs, and they don't own the IP, Of course Wal-Mart has a contract with the labels, but what about small used CD shops? They actually have been sued, and the record companies lost miserably. There is no reason you can't do whatever you want with property you already own.
The Only possible reason that this could be illegal is if they didn't provide adequate protection for the IP. For example, if they didn't do enough to stop people from passing around my.mp3.com accounts.
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Well, if the 'bomb-shelter' law passes here, I won't have to worry about it. I guess there are some advantages to being in a small state where the legislators actualy give a damn... Its to bad the artical's slashdoted and I won't be able to read exactly what's going on....