Yes, you are right. Line by line interpretation of text files is much faster then dynamicaly generated, optimized byte code... Sure...
Java may be slow (although its almost as fast as C++ now, with hotspot and dynamic code gen), but if you really think its slower then a pure text scripting language then theres somthing wrong with you.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
some DVD players can be tricked into playing from a directory on the hard disk instead of the DVD drive
Yes it is.
The copy on the HD will not have the encryption Key, so it will not be able to be played normaly. I suppose if you put the real DVD with the keys in, you could do it, but what then would be the point?
Some DVD movies are unencrypted, so you can go ahead and play those off annything
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
. The only thing it couldn't do is play DVDs, but by then an IDE DVD player will probably be about $35
You would almost certanly be able to play VOB files off it, I mean you don't need a CD-ROM drive to play VCDs do you? There would be nothing to stop you from playing unencrypted DVDs
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
This isn't a one-time cost. Each tape large enough costs $20. a DVD costs $15. sure, you can burn the movie for 20 friends, but you would save $100 if you bought the movie for 20 friends instead.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
Sure, it isn't feasible to pirate DVDs now, other then making copies on friend's hard drives or something. And yes, even with a 100mbit Ethernet connection to the Internet, its still going to be a long download.
But on the other hand, would have it have been feasible to pirate mp3s when everyone had a 1200baud modem and 80meg hard drives? Probably not. I think what the MPAA and DVD CCA is worried about is the future. They want to set precedent now, and not have to worry later. I don't think they'll win though.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
Uh, he said he was worried about people pirating his $25 software app, not the movies. As well as the problem of trying to sell a $25 app at all (as opposed to getting OEM deals like on windows)
I seriously doubt that the percentage of knowledgeable linux users interested in piracy is much different then the percentage of knowledgeable windows users. But ALL linux users are knowledgeable.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
b) Piracy is going to run rampant in spite of the fact the cost of the blank media is greater than the cost of the recorded media, and the data on the media is certainly a small enough file that most of us have the bandwidth and hard drive space to snatch up dozens of titles in an evening over the internet.
He's talking about people pirating his $25 app, not DVDs. Why would he care if people pirate DVDs? The more DVD piracy there is, the more money he would make.
Anyway, You're on crack if you really think that Linux systems are not far more divergent then windows systems.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
It's a Bad Thing because it is horrific. Plain and simple.
So what you are essentially saying is "Its bad because it's bad." Fantastic. That's exactly what I said I did *not* want to hear... oh well..
Monocultural meat supply. Meat producers like uniformity and predictability. Aside from the questionable nature of meat farming (some other time) monocultures hold the potential for disaster. A disease that affects one will affect all.
This is true, however most diseases effect all anyway. How many diseases do you know of that only effect a small portion of any given population? Can you name one? I doubt you could. Despite what you think meat producers "want" no one would be stupid enough to endanger the words entire meat supply. We would not be able to feed the world today with the food produced in 1970. Without advances in agriculture, there would be mass starvation.
Population control? Great idea! Have fun trying to get the 3rd (where 90% of population growth occurs) world to stop fucking. Here's a hint: it ain't goanna happen.
Mythical right to breed. Most of the attempts at validating embryo research is to "help childless couples". If you can't breed there's a reason. That's life's lottery. I would like the $ spent elsewhere
It's not your money fuckhead. People can pay for whatever they want. Invitro fertilization is not an unprofitable field. And your "life's lotto" thesis is bullshit. Should we not cure people with AIDS, or give insulin to diabetics? I mean, that's life's lotto to right?
Breeding identical animals for experiments. As you obviously love animal experiments obviously it won't keep you awake at night. Try visiting one of these places or watch a video. If you still fail to be moved seek medical attention to have your empathy levels initiated.
I have no empathy for non-humans. On the other hand, I do have empathy for the humans who will be helped by this technology. Unlike yourself, obviously.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
No it wouldn't you idiot. Red hat can impose no restrictions on there software, as most of the stuff has been developed by people other then them and put under the GPL.
Sure, they could restrict the stuff that they did do, but they havn't everything comming out of redhat is GPL
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
Unless you can convince me with one heck of a good reason why this is a Bad Thing.
All the ranting and raving about "weirdness" and "all those Sci-Fi books" is never going to convince me that splitting a Monkey embryo is a bad thing. We've been doing this for years, even on human egg cells. Its nothing new.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
I don't think I've ever seen such a jarring example of pathetically rehashed buzzwords, and random facts thrown together in a less coherent manner.
You managed to type 288 (unformatted) words and say nothing."Technology advances at an exponential rate, morality advances at a linear rate" What the hell does that mean? how can you mesure morality quantitatively?
that we dont get silly people in congress saying censor the internet or down with violent video games.
Come again? that made no sense whatsoever. What does cloning have to do with video games? nothing you said nothing at all.
I'm sorry to flame you like this, but presudo-intellectualism has always bothered me. If you don't have anything to say, don't say anything at all?
At least Jon Katz has some point.
I know, I know a lot of people don't like my posts ether, but at least I always try to say something even if its not that articulate.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
Yes, this has nothing to do with the cloning techniqe used to clone dolly, but I do really think that we have been able to do what was described for a long time, longer then we could clone sheep as well.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
Remember the whole neanderthol man? It was a hoax. There have been no fossils that show a link between two seperate species. Plenty of variation within a species, yes, but not between *seperate* species. I don't remember Neanderthol, no. But if you're talking about the Neanderthal, then it defiantly wasn't a hoax. The reason that you never find anything 'between' species is that whenever anything new comes up creationists say that its still a part of species A and is not something new, or else they'll say its part of species B and is of no relation to species A. I mean, if you look at the Talk.Origins FAQ you will see that while there have been things like a bird-dinosaur, the creationists always say things like "that's just a bird" or "that's just a dinosaur" or whatever. In actuality is more a smooth gradient, Point A and point B are different, but the line is blurry. You can say things like "different species can't mate" and other things but this is only general rule, and can't be applied to everything
lions and tigers are different species, but they can mate. There have been some high breeds that have been able to reproduce, and if you were to say that evolution only occurs when one organism gives birth to an organism that isn't capable of mating with it, then evolution would be occurring every time a single-celled organism split in two)
Ahh, theres nothing like a good old fasion/. evolution debate:P
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
. I'll base my life decisions on science-fact. No problems there. But really, why should I insist on believing science-theory?
First of all, what does evolution's existance have to do with your life desisions?
And second of all evolution is a sciantific fact. The reason it isn't called a "law" is beacuse it cannot be described by a mathimatical formula. Newton's laws of physics are called laws, but there all wrong (to a very, very small degree)
I've looked at the evidence. It's nowhere near conclusive. The theory of evolution has so many holes that if it was anything else, it would have been dismissed a long time ago.
Well, you were probably fed some 'evedence' that the Fundi-Christian fed you. look at the real stuff and see for yourself why so many people choose to belive in evolution.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
It's kinda like those that say "because evolution *could* work, it must have happened."
That's not what people are saying, what there saying is "Gee, look at all this stuff, hrm... what's the most reasonable explanation? evolution."
Evolution to this day has been represented as truth, though it isn't proven. Charles Darwin himself, after writing 'Origin of the Species', said that he was way off.
Can you prove to me that you actually exist? Nothing can be proven absolutely, but evolution is as valid an idea as Relativity
It's silly what some people will believe.
Do you believe in creationism?
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
I'm not saying that there should be no regulations; I'm merely saying that there should patents as well. most of the people in the world are motivated by money. Corporations crated the Anti-viral agents used to suppress HIV. I doubt that those corporations would have spent the money necessary to develop those drugs if they didn't think they'd be able to get that money back. Sure, we might have seen those drugs come out of University labs, decades from now... But I'm not willing to sacrifice millions of human lives to placate your knee-jerk reaction.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
However if this "immortality" pill is not invented in our lifetime because "Celera" is keeping the information as proprietary Corporate Trade Secrets, then that, my friend, is nothing less than a CRIME against humanity!
On the other hand, why would anyone try to invent and sell an immortality pill if they couldn't patent it and sell it? I mean, sure they would get to live forever, but they could just keep the information to themselves and a few billionaires who he can give and watch over carefully so that they do not reverse engineer it...
Do you think that would be a better situation? I don't. And that's what I said.
You seem to be saying two things. That A) There should be no patents on human DNA, and B) that medical technology should advance as quickly as possible. However you show no evidence that the two are linked in anyway. In fact I would say that the opposite were true patents lead to faster scientific research. I mean, after all what motivation is there to do this research if there's no money it in? I think you need to look at this more carefully.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
Speaking of software, do you honestly think that people can't innovate and make money in software without patenting their ideas?
No, I don't. But then I wasn't speaking of software; I was speaking of computer hardware. And no, I don't think that the pace would have been anywhere near what it has been if there were no computer hardware patents.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
Slashdot Mirror
Wow, you are so smart, so much smarter in fact then all the people ripping DVDs.
Please, with your great intellect, tell me where I can buy a VCD copy of The Matrix near where I live?
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
Yes, you are right. Line by line interpretation of text files is much faster then dynamicaly generated, optimized byte code... Sure...
Java may be slow (although its almost as fast as C++ now, with hotspot and dynamic code gen), but if you really think its slower then a pure text scripting language then theres somthing wrong with you.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
WARNING: For home use only. Unauthorized public performance, broadcasting or copying is a violation of applicable laws.
the warning would imply that you are not within your rights to view it at the office, which would suck if your office is at home....
Well, they can say whatever they want. As can I. What they say, however has no bering on reality.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
Even if they did, how many DVD players recognize unencrypted movies?
All of them.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
some DVD players can be tricked into playing from a directory on the hard disk instead of the DVD drive
Yes it is.
The copy on the HD will not have the encryption Key, so it will not be able to be played normaly. I suppose if you put the real DVD with the keys in, you could do it, but what then would be the point?
Some DVD movies are unencrypted, so you can go ahead and play those off annything
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
. The only thing it couldn't do is play DVDs, but by then an IDE DVD player will probably be about $35
You would almost certanly be able to play VOB files off it, I mean you don't need a CD-ROM drive to play VCDs do you? There would be nothing to stop you from playing unencrypted DVDs
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
This isn't a one-time cost. Each tape large enough costs $20. a DVD costs $15. sure, you can burn the movie for 20 friends, but you would save $100 if you bought the movie for 20 friends instead.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
Sure, it isn't feasible to pirate DVDs now, other then making copies on friend's hard drives or something. And yes, even with a 100mbit Ethernet connection to the Internet, its still going to be a long download.
But on the other hand, would have it have been feasible to pirate mp3s when everyone had a 1200baud modem and 80meg hard drives? Probably not. I think what the MPAA and DVD CCA is worried about is the future. They want to set precedent now, and not have to worry later. I don't think they'll win though.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
Uh, he said he was worried about people pirating his $25 software app, not the movies. As well as the problem of trying to sell a $25 app at all (as opposed to getting OEM deals like on windows)
I seriously doubt that the percentage of knowledgeable linux users interested in piracy is much different then the percentage of knowledgeable windows users. But ALL linux users are knowledgeable.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
b) Piracy is going to run rampant in spite of the fact the cost of the blank media is greater than the cost of the recorded media, and the data on the media is certainly a small enough file that most of us have the bandwidth and hard drive space to snatch up dozens of titles in an evening over the internet.
He's talking about people pirating his $25 app, not DVDs. Why would he care if people pirate DVDs? The more DVD piracy there is, the more money he would make.
Anyway, You're on crack if you really think that Linux systems are not far more divergent then windows systems.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
...I'd like you to prove that, because I don't think you can...
Why should he have to prove it to you? its his his desision, prove that there not.
Anyway all the 31337 sk1p7 k11d3ds are moving over to linux beacuse its 'kewl'
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
Uh dude... Minidisks are not CD quality, not even close. Worse then 128k mp3s.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
It's a Bad Thing because it is horrific. Plain and simple.
So what you are essentially saying is "Its bad because it's bad." Fantastic. That's exactly what I said I did *not* want to hear... oh well..
Monocultural meat supply. Meat producers like uniformity and predictability. Aside from the questionable nature of meat farming (some other time) monocultures hold the potential for disaster. A disease that affects one will affect all.
This is true, however most diseases effect all anyway. How many diseases do you know of that only effect a small portion of any given population? Can you name one? I doubt you could. Despite what you think meat producers "want" no one would be stupid enough to endanger the words entire meat supply. We would not be able to feed the world today with the food produced in 1970. Without advances in agriculture, there would be mass starvation.
Population control? Great idea! Have fun trying to get the 3rd (where 90% of population growth occurs) world to stop fucking. Here's a hint: it ain't goanna happen.
Mythical right to breed. Most of the attempts at validating embryo research is to "help childless couples". If you can't breed there's a reason. That's life's lottery. I would like the $ spent elsewhere
It's not your money fuckhead. People can pay for whatever they want. Invitro fertilization is not an unprofitable field. And your "life's lotto" thesis is bullshit. Should we not cure people with AIDS, or give insulin to diabetics? I mean, that's life's lotto to right?
Breeding identical animals for experiments. As you obviously love animal experiments obviously it won't keep you awake at night. Try visiting one of these places or watch a video. If you still fail to be moved seek medical attention to have your empathy levels initiated.
I have no empathy for non-humans. On the other hand, I do have empathy for the humans who will be helped by this technology. Unlike yourself, obviously.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
No it wouldn't you idiot. Red hat can impose no restrictions on there software, as most of the stuff has been developed by people other then them and put under the GPL.
Sure, they could restrict the stuff that they did do, but they havn't everything comming out of redhat is GPL
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
Unless you can convince me with one heck of a good reason why this is a Bad Thing.
All the ranting and raving about "weirdness" and "all those Sci-Fi books" is never going to convince me that splitting a Monkey embryo is a bad thing. We've been doing this for years, even on human egg cells. Its nothing new.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
I don't think I've ever seen such a jarring example of pathetically rehashed buzzwords, and random facts thrown together in a less coherent manner.
You managed to type 288 (unformatted) words and say nothing."Technology advances at an exponential rate, morality advances at a linear rate" What the hell does that mean? how can you mesure morality quantitatively?
that we dont get silly people in congress saying censor the internet or down with violent video games.
Come again? that made no sense whatsoever. What does cloning have to do with video games? nothing you said nothing at all.
I'm sorry to flame you like this, but presudo-intellectualism has always bothered me. If you don't have anything to say, don't say anything at all?
At least Jon Katz has some point.
I know, I know a lot of people don't like my posts ether, but at least I always try to say something even if its not that articulate.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
Yes, this has nothing to do with the cloning techniqe used to clone dolly, but I do really think that we have been able to do what was described for a long time, longer then we could clone sheep as well.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
. I'm interested in your "many observations of speciation" in the last century. COuld you list them?
I tried to post a list, but I guess it was to long, I don't know if it got posted or not, slashdot gave me no conformation
Anyway, get your list at http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/f aq-speciation.html
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
Remember the whole neanderthol man? It was a hoax. There have been no fossils that show a link between two seperate species. Plenty of variation within a species, yes, but not between *seperate* species. I don't remember Neanderthol, no. But if you're talking about the Neanderthal, then it defiantly wasn't a hoax. The reason that you never find anything 'between' species is that whenever anything new comes up creationists say that its still a part of species A and is not something new, or else they'll say its part of species B and is of no relation to species A. I mean, if you look at the Talk.Origins FAQ you will see that while there have been things like a bird-dinosaur, the creationists always say things like "that's just a bird" or "that's just a dinosaur" or whatever. In actuality is more a smooth gradient, Point A and point B are different, but the line is blurry. You can say things like "different species can't mate" and other things but this is only general rule, and can't be applied to everything
/. evolution debate :P
lions and tigers are different species, but they can mate. There have been some high breeds that have been able to reproduce, and if you were to say that evolution only occurs when one organism gives birth to an organism that isn't capable of mating with it, then evolution would be occurring every time a single-celled organism split in two)
Ahh, theres nothing like a good old fasion
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
. I'll base my life decisions on science-fact. No problems there. But really, why should I insist on believing science-theory?
First of all, what does evolution's existance have to do with your life desisions?
And second of all evolution is a sciantific fact. The reason it isn't called a "law" is beacuse it cannot be described by a mathimatical formula. Newton's laws of physics are called laws, but there all wrong (to a very, very small degree)
I've looked at the evidence. It's nowhere near conclusive. The theory of evolution has so many holes that if it was anything else, it would have been dismissed a long time ago.
Well, you were probably fed some 'evedence' that the Fundi-Christian fed you. look at the real stuff and see for yourself why so many people choose to belive in evolution.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
It's kinda like those that say "because evolution *could* work, it must have happened."
That's not what people are saying, what there saying is "Gee, look at all this stuff, hrm... what's the most reasonable explanation? evolution."
Evolution to this day has been represented as truth, though it isn't proven. Charles Darwin himself, after writing 'Origin of the Species', said that he was way off.
Can you prove to me that you actually exist? Nothing can be proven absolutely, but evolution is as valid an idea as Relativity
It's silly what some people will believe.
Do you believe in creationism?
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
Mega-merger madness of this mammoth magnitude makes me much more massively melancholy :(
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
I'm not saying that there should be no regulations; I'm merely saying that there should patents as well. most of the people in the world are motivated by money. Corporations crated the Anti-viral agents used to suppress HIV. I doubt that those corporations would have spent the money necessary to develop those drugs if they didn't think they'd be able to get that money back. Sure, we might have seen those drugs come out of University labs, decades from now... But I'm not willing to sacrifice millions of human lives to placate your knee-jerk reaction.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
However if this "immortality" pill is not invented in our lifetime because "Celera" is keeping the information as proprietary Corporate Trade Secrets, then that, my friend, is nothing less than a CRIME against humanity!
On the other hand, why would anyone try to invent and sell an immortality pill if they couldn't patent it and sell it? I mean, sure they would get to live forever, but they could just keep the information to themselves and a few billionaires who he can give and watch over carefully so that they do not reverse engineer it...
Do you think that would be a better situation? I don't. And that's what I said.
You seem to be saying two things. That A) There should be no patents on human DNA, and B) that medical technology should advance as quickly as possible. However you show no evidence that the two are linked in anyway. In fact I would say that the opposite were true patents lead to faster scientific research. I mean, after all what motivation is there to do this research if there's no money it in? I think you need to look at this more carefully.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",
Speaking of software, do you honestly think that people can't innovate and make money in software without patenting their ideas?
No, I don't. But then I wasn't speaking of software; I was speaking of computer hardware. And no, I don't think that the pace would have been anywhere near what it has been if there were no computer hardware patents.
"Suble Mind control? why do html buttons say submit?",