The copyright holders of the Linux kernel are within their rights to say that the mere definition and announcement of a new license on top of the GPL invalidates SCO's rights to redistribute, and the word 'automatic' implies that those rights are lost even if the copyright holder does not know yet what SCO is doing. As for the idea that "we never tried to enforce the sublicense," I would argue that imposition of the new license by itself shows an intent to enforce its terms, and that the copyright holder explicitly forbade this by licensing his work under the GPL.
This paragraph nicely summarizes things in a way that I can totally agree with your original comment wrt license violations.
However: If I break a law and the police are too lazy to arrest me, have I still broken the law? Of course I have. Laws and contracts are different animals.
Perhaps the more correct thing is that SCO is doing both. They are licensing the technology via GPL with modifications (not allowed by the GPL under which they got the programs) out of their public mouth and sales piece. But, they are also distributing it in compliance with the GPL via ftp. The thinking is that they cannot do the latter any longer because they have engaged in the former activity. No problem. I get it.
Just wanted to say right on. matrix272 was close, but missed the mark on a few specifics. My wife was a teacher for a while, and ran into similar problems as your mother. And yes, we had to tithe to the NEA.
I don't think they are enforcing this, however. They don't give you a password to access the ftp site. Hell, the lawyers and managers probably don't even know there IS an ftp site:)
Still, I see your point, and now vaguely recall that language in the GPL.
To join in with the peanut gallery: it's not a radiator, it's a heater core. OTOH, it's larger than the radiator on many motorcycles, is constructed the same way, and does a similar job.
The guy did some great work, but the English wheel to make a simple curve was big time overkill. English wheels are used to make compound curves, usually.
As far as the 'last' great love affair with speed and power being the automobile, America's love for speedy and powerful autos is as strong as it ever was. Fast computers are barely a glint in the eye for the average person. Hell, even most geeks who really make it buy rather nice cars (ask John Romero). And the lowly Dodge Neon is quicker than most average Dodge musclecars of the late 60's, with superior economy and handling. Only seriously high end race only cars back in the day would stand a chance at hanging with something as relatively mundane as a Subaru WRX. Maybe a Yenko or other tuner car could beat them, but then you have to let me mention tuner Corvette's and Mercury sedans. Trust me, *this* is the golden age of the American auto, despite the prevalence of SUVs and trucks (which are quicker, safer, more fuel efficient, more powerful, and more durable than their brethern 'back in the day'.)
While I'm wound up, let me tell you why emacs rulez, and vi is teh suxx0r...
That's why the section of the MVA (not the DMV in MD) that I work for keeps paper backups of everything. Oh, wait, nothing is kept anywhere but paper. Funny thing, paper. Seems to have been working pretty well for a couple of years.
(My latest journal or two should describe my 'work' with the MVA. Lots of outside work, and a shoestring budget. Using laptops or some other techno-trash isn't going to happen. But, again, we'll be working.)
The only crappy aspect is that who knows whether or not this will delay a paycheck:(
This just goes to show you what you get when you let hysteria drive your decisions.
The USA PATRIOT act is what you get when you let hysteria drive your decisions. Electronic voting systems barely register on the scale of that abomination.
He didn't say that, dumbass. He said that Bushnell was trying to take the high road while ignoring products turned out by his own company. Bushnell's quote is that humans weren't to be killed. Gunslinger clearly showed that this guideline wasn't set in stone.
Moto Guzzi high end? What planet are you living on? Nice stuff, but as technologically relevant as HD (less if you count the VRod). Build quality as good as... Well, nobody worth mentioning. Now, a BMW or Honda OTOH... Perhaps you meant a Ghezzi and Brian (?) modified Moto Guzzi.
Oh wait, I never had one because Atari was overpriced rubbish and Nintendo beat the crap out of them
I loved the NES I was playing in 1979. Oh, wait, there wasn't one. The only legitimate choice was a 2600, in Atari or Sears flavors.
NES, the first home game console that actually succeeded in mass market!
Yeah, 2600, biggest market flop of all time. Nobody had one. Not every other kid in my elementary school. Except for the handful of losers with Intellivision's.
Anything that can be done on a decades-dead console can be done 10 times better on a PC
I doubt there's a modern PC that can accomplish as much in code as that dictated by the limits of a 2600. But as the mods have (for once) correctly marked the troll, I'll leave it at that.
That article you link to is quoting from news stories that were long ago proven as complete fabrications.
Linkage please?
I'll be you believe the U.S. troops involved in the rescuse used blanks in their weapons, too.
Perhaps the parent does, but not me. Something about the massive changes needed to make an M16 fire blanks makes it not particularly feasible unless the entire rescue happened on a Hollywood sound stage.
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Mmmmm... Kari Wuhrer... Seriously though, I always thought that the acting in Red Alert was supposed to be bad. Campy mocking of the whole thing.
The other plus for the casinos is profit motive. Ahh, Adam Smith's Invisible Hand rises again...
And some in WWII, like my grandfather, lied and signed up at 16. Since they needed bodies, the recruiters looked the other way. Very common.
The copyright holders of the Linux kernel are within their rights to say that the mere definition and announcement of a new license on top of the GPL invalidates SCO's rights to redistribute, and the word 'automatic' implies that those rights are lost even if the copyright holder does not know yet what SCO is doing. As for the idea that "we never tried to enforce the sublicense," I would argue that imposition of the new license by itself shows an intent to enforce its terms, and that the copyright holder explicitly forbade this by licensing his work under the GPL.
This paragraph nicely summarizes things in a way that I can totally agree with your original comment wrt license violations.
However:
If I break a law and the police are too lazy to arrest me, have I still broken the law? Of course I have.
Laws and contracts are different animals.
Perhaps the more correct thing is that SCO is doing both. They are licensing the technology via GPL with modifications (not allowed by the GPL under which they got the programs) out of their public mouth and sales piece. But, they are also distributing it in compliance with the GPL via ftp. The thinking is that they cannot do the latter any longer because they have engaged in the former activity. No problem. I get it.
Just wanted to say right on. matrix272 was close, but missed the mark on a few specifics. My wife was a teacher for a while, and ran into similar problems as your mother. And yes, we had to tithe to the NEA.
Well, she's definately excluded herself from running in the NBS party, as most of her answers were pure BS.
Don't forget, gm in 2008. I'll screw you like all other politicians, but I'll be polite enough to give you a reacharound.
This does not matter; the GPL does not talk about enforcing additional terms, merely the imposition of new terms.
Granted. But how does one impose new terms without enforcement?
(Perhaps I'm being pedantic? However, this is a legal issue where pedantism is a fact of life)
I don't think they are enforcing this, however. They don't give you a password to access the ftp site. Hell, the lawyers and managers probably don't even know there IS an ftp site:)
Still, I see your point, and now vaguely recall that language in the GPL.
Problem is, a quick perusal of sco's ftp site shows that they are still distributing source. I don't think sco has actually violated the GPL yet.
To join in with the peanut gallery: it's not a radiator, it's a heater core. OTOH, it's larger than the radiator on many motorcycles, is constructed the same way, and does a similar job.
The guy did some great work, but the English wheel to make a simple curve was big time overkill. English wheels are used to make compound curves, usually.
As far as the 'last' great love affair with speed and power being the automobile, America's love for speedy and powerful autos is as strong as it ever was. Fast computers are barely a glint in the eye for the average person. Hell, even most geeks who really make it buy rather nice cars (ask John Romero). And the lowly Dodge Neon is quicker than most average Dodge musclecars of the late 60's, with superior economy and handling. Only seriously high end race only cars back in the day would stand a chance at hanging with something as relatively mundane as a Subaru WRX. Maybe a Yenko or other tuner car could beat them, but then you have to let me mention tuner Corvette's and Mercury sedans. Trust me, *this* is the golden age of the American auto, despite the prevalence of SUVs and trucks (which are quicker, safer, more fuel efficient, more powerful, and more durable than their brethern 'back in the day'.)
While I'm wound up, let me tell you why emacs rulez, and vi is teh suxx0r...
In that case, I would suggest RH sues SCO in a VA or MD court, where UCITA makes shrink wrap licenses hunky dorey. Hoist 'them' on their own petard.
That's why the section of the MVA (not the DMV in MD) that I work for keeps paper backups of everything. Oh, wait, nothing is kept anywhere but paper. Funny thing, paper. Seems to have been working pretty well for a couple of years.
(My latest journal or two should describe my 'work' with the MVA. Lots of outside work, and a shoestring budget. Using laptops or some other techno-trash isn't going to happen. But, again, we'll be working.)
The only crappy aspect is that who knows whether or not this will delay a paycheck:(
This just goes to show you what you get when you let hysteria drive your decisions.
The USA PATRIOT act is what you get when you let hysteria drive your decisions. Electronic voting systems barely register on the scale of that abomination.
Bushnell's own personal sliding scale varies with how much money he can make, it seems.
He didn't say that, dumbass. He said that Bushnell was trying to take the high road while ignoring products turned out by his own company. Bushnell's quote is that humans weren't to be killed. Gunslinger clearly showed that this guideline wasn't set in stone.
That's what we've been using in Maryland for about ten years now. Guess they needed a rounder wheel.
Depends on the encoding.
ColecoVision was several years later.
Just hack into one, and 'borrow' some time on it.
*sigh* You beat me to it.
Moto Guzzi high end? What planet are you living on? Nice stuff, but as technologically relevant as HD (less if you count the VRod). Build quality as good as... Well, nobody worth mentioning. Now, a BMW or Honda OTOH... Perhaps you meant a Ghezzi and Brian (?) modified Moto Guzzi.
Oh wait, I never had one because Atari was overpriced rubbish and Nintendo beat the crap out of them
I loved the NES I was playing in 1979. Oh, wait, there wasn't one. The only legitimate choice was a 2600, in Atari or Sears flavors.
NES, the first home game console that actually succeeded in mass market!
Yeah, 2600, biggest market flop of all time. Nobody had one. Not every other kid in my elementary school. Except for the handful of losers with Intellivision's.
Anything that can be done on a decades-dead console can be done 10 times better on a PC
I doubt there's a modern PC that can accomplish as much in code as that dictated by the limits of a 2600. But as the mods have (for once) correctly marked the troll, I'll leave it at that.
I think more slashdotters should be using lithium on a daily basis...
The crappiest game I've ever played was Black and White. If this game were free and as good as Starcraft, they'd still owe me about $20.
That article you link to is quoting from news stories that were long ago proven as complete fabrications.
Linkage please?
I'll be you believe the U.S. troops involved in the rescuse used blanks in their weapons, too.
Perhaps the parent does, but not me. Something about the massive changes needed to make an M16 fire blanks makes it not particularly feasible unless the entire rescue happened on a Hollywood sound stage.